PlaidJacket Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 I was talking to a buddy yesterday about drivers. He suggested with some certainty that my driver face will go dead after about two years or so. Huh? He couldn't backup his claim. I haven't researched it either. Does anyone believe this? Is there any proof either way that this happens? Or...is this just a golf myth? Quote My Sun Mountain bag currently includes: 771CSI 5i - PW and PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges EXS 10.5*, 929-HS FW4 16.5* Willimette w/GolfPride Contour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MmmmmmBuddy Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Absolutely the truth. I've been telling the wife this for years... SkilledByDesign, Tyler86, PlaidJacket and 4 others 4 3 Quote Driver - Ping G430 Max 9° | Ventus Blue TR Hybrid - ZX 16° & 18° | GD Tour IZ S 2 Iron - ZU65 17° | AeroTech SteelFiber 110icw S Irons - ZX7 MKII 4-Pw | TTDGTI S400, std length 1° flat Wedges - RTX 6 Tour Rack 50° 54° 58° | TTDGTI S400, std length 1° flat Putter - L.A.B. Golf Link.1 | LA Golf P135 shaft | Garsen Quad Tour grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 My wife convinced me that she "caved in" her old Burner driver, so she bought the new RBZ Stage 2 driver. Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattF Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 No research but, my Driver is a Ping G20, obviously over 2 years old, in fact, it's closer to 5+ years old and there's nothing wrong with it...won't stop me from buying a new one though. Quote In the bag: Driver: Darkspeed X 9° UST Mamiya LIN-Q M40X Blue 7F4 Fairway: Apex UW 19° & 21° Project X HZRDUS Smoke RDX Black 5.5 Irons: JPX 923 HMP 5-PW UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Wedges: T-22 Denim Copper 48°, 52° & 56° UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Putter Sycamore 005 Wide Blade Bag: Fairway 14 stand bag Balls: Chrome Tour Cart: CaddyLite ONE Ver. 8 God Bless America, God save the King, God defend New Zealand and thank Christ for Australia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undershooter Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 It depends on the driver probably but I know that some of them get hotter the more you hit them. Its very similar to softball and baseball bats that are composite. The thinner the wall of the barrel/face gets the hotter it gets. The hottest it will ever be is 1 swing before it breaks. Of course i'm sure this doesn't apply to all drivers but I know it does for at least some. Kor.A.Door 1 Quote Driver- Tmag 2017 M2 tour issue 8.5* actual loft 7.8* w/ HZRDS Green PVD 70TX" Fairway Metal- Taylormade SLDR Mini Driver 12* w/ Fujikura Rombax TP95-X" Utility- Mizuno MPH5 1 iron w/ Aldila RIP 85X (depending on course/ conditions) Irons- Mizuno MP- FLI HI 2i w/ Aldila Proto ByYou 100X Mizuno MP59 4i-6I w/ PX 6.5 Mizuno MP69 7i-PW w/ PX 6.5 Wedges- Scratch 8620 Driver/Slider set. 50*, 54* bent to 55* and 60* Putter- Taylormade Spider Tour w/ flow neck Ball- Bridgestone Tour B X Bag- Sun Mountain C130 Supercharged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.I. Rich Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Ha! I'd been considering the same post. I played a round with someone who made the same claim. He hits every darn fairway, but said the driver had lost its liveliness and he no longer gets the distance he used to get. I would think that it's possible - slight deformations of the club head over time I would think could lead to changes in performance. Quote <p>In my bag: Ping G LS Tec 9* Tour 65 Stiff, Cobra F8 3-4 wood HZRDUS Yellow 6.0, Calloway 21* X Forged Utility iron (steel stiff), Ping G30 white dot 4-9 Stiff 110 gm KBS tours Scor 48,52,56,60 Wedges, Nike Method Core MC3</p><p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badfish Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 I have had this conversation with my brother who is a graduate of the pgm program at OSU, and is now a club pro at a local course. His response was that the shaft will wear out long before the clubhead will. He used a spring analogy. A spring stretched and compressed over time will lose tension, thus the flexibility will increase over time. He did add that he comes across bent hosels quite often, and that could be considered wear I suppose. Quote S57 DG S300 stiff M1 430 8.5 Matrix Black Tie Tour Wedges stiff SLDR 16* mini driver Fuji Speeder stiff SLDR 21* hybrid Fuji Speeder stiff Futura Superstroke mid slim 2.0 project (a) #7's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaskanski Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 My current driver is now 11 years old. It still performs as good as the day it was made. There is some evidence that some driver faces will indeed crack, distort or cave in as a result of long, hard and prolonged use, but when or if this happens is not a finite absolute in terms of time. For example, if you hit a steel ball bearing with a 120 mph swing speed, then there is a fair chance some damage will occur. On the other hand if you hit golf balls with moderate to normal swings, then the driver could last for a lifetime. The margins are indeed that wide if you believe in common sense rather than conjecture. I call myth, but I doubt most of anyone on here has owned a driver for longer than a year to make such a claim (just kidding). chershey, silver & black, L.I. Rich and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG STU Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 It depends on several factors. 1- The brand of the driver and how thin the face was to begin with. Good example Bang O Matic 2- The swing speed at impact of the person playing it. Older guys like myself with slow swing speeds there is no danger of over flexing the face. Now these younger guys yes. I do have a Bang head I traded for a while back. Never could get it to hit right changed around about 6 different shafts. My friend who had his own shop at the time and is an accomplished player tried it with several shaft combos. He thought the head was 'dead" To confirm it we shafted it up for a well known local Remax Long Drive guy and he played Bang for a while and he hit it 4 or 5 times and confirmed it My first metal wood was a Founders 300 CC with an S-400 steel. I ended up cracking it on the sole along the rails after about an year. I was told that those paticular drivers were prone to that. The only other driver I ever cracked was about 9 years ago. It was an Adams I forgot what model I do know I had a UST Pro Force V-2 in it. I was actually playing a round with a Pro V and the crown cracked all the way across it. We were an Adams dealer (we still had the shop then) and Adams would not warranty it. We ended up pulling Adams products because of that. I think in retrospect that the average player in general can not hit the ball hard enough or solid enough consistantly to take the spring out of an average pro line public offering club. But I may be wrong and I know there are freak things that happen MattF, PlaidJacket and silver & black 3 Quote Driver ---- Callaway Big Bertha Alpha Speeder 565 R flex- 5W TM V-Steel Fubuki 60r--- 7W TM V-Steel UST Pro Force Gold 65R----- 9 W TM V Steel TM MAS stiff---- Irons 2015 TM TP CB Steel Fiber 95 R--- GW Callaway Mack Daddy 2 52* shaft unknown junk pile refugee. SW Callaway PM Grind 56* Modified sole grind--- KBS Tour Wedge-- LW Vokey 58* SM5 L grind--- Putter Ping B90I Broom Stick G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor.A.Door Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Brandt Snedeker used a driver from like 12 years ago, until he switched this season. Quote Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP Tony Covey MGS Posted April 5, 2016 SPY VIP Share Posted April 5, 2016 I was talking to a buddy yesterday about drivers. He suggested with some certainty that my driver face will go dead after about two years or so. Huh? He couldn't backup his claim. I haven't researched it either. Does anyone believe this? Is there any proof either way that this happens? Or...is this just a golf myth? Dead? I'm going to go with nonsense. What is possible is that a driver *could* develop flat spots along the face's bulge and roll radii. I say *could* because although it's theoretically possible, with current materials along with improved design and manufacturing techniques, it shouldn't happen. We chatted with the PING R&D guys about this briefly. They do a ridiculous amount of canon testing to ensure that not only will faces not break, but that'll they'll maintain their shape for the duration. Undershooter, EthanSterlingPrice, Sschaffer24 and 1 other 4 Quote MyGolfSpy is only major golf site that refuses advertising from large golf companies. With your support we can keep it that way. Donate Today Follow @GolfSpyT Subscribe to the MyGolfSpy Newsletter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McaseyM Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Sounds like a great sales technique silver & black 1 Quote What's in my bag: Driver : F9 10.5, Fujikura Speeder 757 TR Fairway F9 15.5° Aldila Rogue White 80X Hybrid: King F7 18° KBS Tour PROTO Hybrid 95 S+ Irons: z585 4i - 6i, z785 7i-PW, Nippon Modus 120X Wedges: CBX 50.11, 55.11, 60.10 TT DG S400 Black Putter: Honey Badger 34" Ball: Q-Star Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthanSterlingPrice Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 For what it's worth I've been on both ends of this issue. I have an Taylormade r7 425 driver I still pull out on occasion and then I had Taylormade burner that died after maybe a year and a half. I think that they typically last longer then 2 years, but once it stops working be it 2 or 10 years then that's when it's time to switch. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy mobile app Quote Right Handed 4.5 handicap Driver: Nike Vapor Flex with Mitsubishi Rayon Fubuki ZT60x5ct S-flex shaft and stock grip. 3-Metal: Nike VRS 15 degree with Mitsubishi Rayon tour issue Diamana S73x5ct X-flex shaft and GolfPride MCC midsize Black/White grip. Irons: Ben Hogan PTx 22, 26, 30, 34, 38, 42, 46 degrees standard length and lie with KBS Tour-V stiff shafts and GolfPride MCC midsize Black/White grips. Wedges: Ben Hogan TK15 54, 58 degrees with KBS Tour-V X-flex shafts and GolfPride MCC midsize Black/White grips. Putter: Nike Method Converge B1|01 with Superstroke Flatso 2.0 grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGolf Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 I am in agreement with jaskanski. It would greatly depend on velocity of the club head mashing against the ball and then where the impact occurs. If you are hitting say near the crown with a higher than average club head speed then failure is bound to happen. however if you are hitting in the middle fairly consistently then it should be a very long time before anything noticeable happens to the club head. and yes I would expect the shaft to fail first. Quote Driver - 44.5" 5.0 flex 10.5 deg Graphite Design XC 6S GP MCC4+ 1 deg closed Irons - 5-pw, GW stnd length 5.0 flex same grip 1 deg flat. Type low medium offset cavity back, no diggers Wedges - 56 and 60 tour grind wedge spinner and mcc4+ grip 2 flat 10 and 8 in bounce Putter - Makefield VS LH Ball - truvis Carried in a Sun Mountain C-130 USA bag - BE PROUD. HC - LH but 85 is a good number, playing in Ohio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCLeo12 Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Ok so I have some proof. I have had 3 driver get set back to Titleist in a 3 year span and they were replaced for free under warranty because the Face went flat. I had a 910 and 2 913 heads for flat. And to blow the theory the shaft will go first out of the water all 3 heads were with the same shaft. A big factor in this obviously swing speed. The likely hood of someone under 100 mph flattening a driver is very slim. My speed is between 166-122 and it happens often for me. I usually wont use a driver longer then a year for this reason. Or once a new version comes out I replace the old one because usually they wont warranty and older model once they release a new one. Quote Ping G410 LST 10.5 set -1* Flat Accra TZ5 65 M5 Callaway Epic Flash 15* set -1 Aldila ATX Blue 75TX Ben Hogan FT Worth Hi 19* KBS Tour V X Ben Hogan PTX Pro 4-P KBS Tour V X 2* Flat 4* loft increments Hogan Equalizer 50* KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 X 2* Flat Hogan Equalizer 56* KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 2* Flat Hogan Equalizer 62* KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 2* Flat EVNROLL ER7 P2 Aware Tour Scotty Cameron Newport2 Buttonback P2 Aware Tour Grip Snell MTB-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undershooter Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Ok so I have some proof. I have had 3 driver get set back to Titleist in a 3 year span and they were replaced for free under warranty because the Face went flat. I had a 910 and 2 913 heads for flat. And to blow the theory the shaft will go first out of the water all 3 heads were with the same shaft. A big factor in this obviously swing speed. The likely hood of someone under 100 mph flattening a driver is very slim. My speed is between 166-122 and it happens often for me. I usually wont use a driver longer then a year for this reason. Or once a new version comes out I replace the old one because usually they wont warranty and older model once they release a new one.166? What's your ballspeed? I know you meant 116-122. Also I think going dead is different from caving in a face or cracking it. Baseball/softball bats are hottest right before they crack. I think drivers could be similar. Quote Driver- Tmag 2017 M2 tour issue 8.5* actual loft 7.8* w/ HZRDS Green PVD 70TX" Fairway Metal- Taylormade SLDR Mini Driver 12* w/ Fujikura Rombax TP95-X" Utility- Mizuno MPH5 1 iron w/ Aldila RIP 85X (depending on course/ conditions) Irons- Mizuno MP- FLI HI 2i w/ Aldila Proto ByYou 100X Mizuno MP59 4i-6I w/ PX 6.5 Mizuno MP69 7i-PW w/ PX 6.5 Wedges- Scratch 8620 Driver/Slider set. 50*, 54* bent to 55* and 60* Putter- Taylormade Spider Tour w/ flow neck Ball- Bridgestone Tour B X Bag- Sun Mountain C130 Supercharged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCLeo12 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 haha yeah i meant 116-122. They werent caving in or cracking the just lost some of the B&R. Undershooter 1 Quote Ping G410 LST 10.5 set -1* Flat Accra TZ5 65 M5 Callaway Epic Flash 15* set -1 Aldila ATX Blue 75TX Ben Hogan FT Worth Hi 19* KBS Tour V X Ben Hogan PTX Pro 4-P KBS Tour V X 2* Flat 4* loft increments Hogan Equalizer 50* KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 X 2* Flat Hogan Equalizer 56* KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 2* Flat Hogan Equalizer 62* KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 2* Flat EVNROLL ER7 P2 Aware Tour Scotty Cameron Newport2 Buttonback P2 Aware Tour Grip Snell MTB-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undershooter Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 haha yeah i meant 116-122. They werent caving in or cracking the just lost some of the B&R. To me that's the same thing bc the integrity of the club is altered. I do see what your getting at though. Quote Driver- Tmag 2017 M2 tour issue 8.5* actual loft 7.8* w/ HZRDS Green PVD 70TX" Fairway Metal- Taylormade SLDR Mini Driver 12* w/ Fujikura Rombax TP95-X" Utility- Mizuno MPH5 1 iron w/ Aldila RIP 85X (depending on course/ conditions) Irons- Mizuno MP- FLI HI 2i w/ Aldila Proto ByYou 100X Mizuno MP59 4i-6I w/ PX 6.5 Mizuno MP69 7i-PW w/ PX 6.5 Wedges- Scratch 8620 Driver/Slider set. 50*, 54* bent to 55* and 60* Putter- Taylormade Spider Tour w/ flow neck Ball- Bridgestone Tour B X Bag- Sun Mountain C130 Supercharged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCLeo12 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 the only was for it to go dead is for it to lose the B&R. as long as it maintains that it will continue to perform. Undershooter 1 Quote Ping G410 LST 10.5 set -1* Flat Accra TZ5 65 M5 Callaway Epic Flash 15* set -1 Aldila ATX Blue 75TX Ben Hogan FT Worth Hi 19* KBS Tour V X Ben Hogan PTX Pro 4-P KBS Tour V X 2* Flat 4* loft increments Hogan Equalizer 50* KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 X 2* Flat Hogan Equalizer 56* KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 2* Flat Hogan Equalizer 62* KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 2* Flat EVNROLL ER7 P2 Aware Tour Scotty Cameron Newport2 Buttonback P2 Aware Tour Grip Snell MTB-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hula Rock Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Absolutely the truth. I've been telling the wife this for years... hahaha..... I also get "don't they all do the same thing" every time I get a new driver. then she goes out and gets a new purse...... MmmmmmBuddy and silver & black 2 Quote Driver: M3 Tensei CK Pro Blue3-Metal:: GBB EPIC, FujiKura Pro Green 5-Metal: F-7, FujiKura Pro Irons: MP-18 SC, KBS Tour 120 Wedges: RTX-3 52 - 56 - 60Putter: EVN-Roll ER-5 Ball : Tour B XS Range Finder: Busnnell Tour-X, Garmin S20 Follow me: @Hula_Rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MmmmmmBuddy Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 hahaha..... I also get "don't they all do the same thing" every time I get a new driver. then she goes out and gets a new purse...... We have been married for 23 years. We have instituted a "Don't ask, Don't tell" policy with sports equipment/golf clubs and Gardening Tools/new shoes.. Hula Rock 1 Quote Driver - Ping G430 Max 9° | Ventus Blue TR Hybrid - ZX 16° & 18° | GD Tour IZ S 2 Iron - ZU65 17° | AeroTech SteelFiber 110icw S Irons - ZX7 MKII 4-Pw | TTDGTI S400, std length 1° flat Wedges - RTX 6 Tour Rack 50° 54° 58° | TTDGTI S400, std length 1° flat Putter - L.A.B. Golf Link.1 | LA Golf P135 shaft | Garsen Quad Tour grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aotearoa_Brad Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Haha I get that too! For my wife its shoes though - the whole house is full of them... she still only has two feet!!! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ping 440 max with a 65 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 On 3/31/2016 at 11:14 AM, PlaidJacket said: I was talking to a buddy yesterday about drivers. He suggested with some certainty that my driver face will go dead after about two years or so. Huh? He couldn't backup his claim. I haven't researched it either. Does anyone believe this? Is there any proof either way that this happens? Or...is this just a golf myth? I have got fitted for a Ping Max Driver 2021 , same shaft as I thought was the best shaft for me, but since my 4 year old Ping apeared to ave a slight crack in the face, we decided ai should upgrade. It all worked well in the fitting station and it was flying well , but that was the head we used for fitting. Then I take the same set up new and it flys 20 yards less that the one I had used for the fitting ad it sounds dead. In fact I still it the one with the slighly craked face much better with same shaft ? Very confused . I had my buddies was me make twenty swings and the new one had no pop to it. Tried it several more times same result. I like the clud and the shaft but somethiung is different ? I think the head of have is faulty. Is this possible ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom the Golf Nut Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 I would go back to the fitter with the new club and compare it against the one you tested. If you purchased the club from the fitter he should swap the club head out for you if it is faulty. Quote Driver, TSi 1 S Flex 3 wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 5 wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 7 Wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 5 Hybrid King Tec MMT R Flex Irons, Tour UST Recoil 95 R Flex (6 - Gap) Wedges, Snakebite KBS Hi- Rev2.0 54* & 60* Agera 35" Ultralight 14-way Cart Bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 10 hours ago, Ping 440 max with a 65 said: I have got fitted for a Ping Max Driver 2021 , same shaft as I thought was the best shaft for me, but since my 4 year old Ping apeared to ave a slight crack in the face, we decided ai should upgrade. It all worked well in the fitting station and it was flying well , but that was the head we used for fitting. Then I take the same set up new and it flys 20 yards less that the one I had used for the fitting ad it sounds dead. In fact I still it the one with the slighly craked face much better with same shaft ? Very confused . I had my buddies was me make twenty swings and the new one had no pop to it. Tried it several more times same result. I like the clud and the shaft but somethiung is different ? I think the head of have is faulty. Is this possible ? What are you measuring with on the course to determine how far it’s flying and to compare to what the distance was in the fitting? Are you comparing carry distance or total distance? Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Could be a bad head; manufacturing processes aren’t perfect and have tolerances. Go back to the fitter with both drivers and compare them side by side and explain what you are seeing on the course. Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfIsGreat Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 I just went to a fit a few weeks ago looking to optimize a ping g410 that I have had for 3 years. First several swings on the trackman with my driver and the ball speed and smash factor were very low. Smash factor was 1.25-1.3. I am hitting good well struck shots but the ball speed is low. The fitter takes a look and gets a tool out to measure the bulge and roll and tells me I have a "Dead Head" driver and there is a flat spot on it. He hands me a new ping G425 to hit and the ball speed and smash factor both jump to where they are expected to be. Smash factor of the new driver was now 1.45-1.47 and the trackman shows 20-25 yards more carry. Somehow my 3 year old driver is not performing like it should. I have an average swing speed 97-101 and I figured I played about 500 rounds plus plenty of range time with that driver. A "Dead Head" driver is a real thing. I have one. Tyler86 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler86 Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 On 4/11/2022 at 12:51 PM, GolfIsGreat said: I just went to a fit a few weeks ago looking to optimize a ping g410 that I have had for 3 years. First several swings on the trackman with my driver and the ball speed and smash factor were very low. Smash factor was 1.25-1.3. I am hitting good well struck shots but the ball speed is low. The fitter takes a look and gets a tool out to measure the bulge and roll and tells me I have a "Dead Head" driver and there is a flat spot on it. He hands me a new ping G425 to hit and the ball speed and smash factor both jump to where they are expected to be. Smash factor of the new driver was now 1.45-1.47 and the trackman shows 20-25 yards more carry. Somehow my 3 year old driver is not performing like it should. I have an average swing speed 97-101 and I figured I played about 500 rounds plus plenty of range time with that driver. A "Dead Head" driver is a real thing. I have one. Still gaming it? Does it fly straighter? Note to self, avoid G425. Quote Mavrik Max Driver M2 5W 818 hybrids Steelhead XR Irons ZipCore wedges SeeMore PR M7X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriverBreaker Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 175mph ball speed here with capacity to get to 180’s if I’m good and loose and swinging hard. I’ve had the same Ping G400 LST for at least 3yrs now, hit many range balls, and it still can get me 180mph ball speed no problem. No signs of going dead or cracking. MrBandit 1 Quote Instagram: @tony_rosselli_ Training Pre training max driver speed: 124mph Current: 130mph WITB: Driver: G425 Max, 9* Woods: 2007 Burner TP 3 wood and 5 wood Irons: Z765 4-PW (1 degree flat) with KBS $-130 shafts Wedges: SM7 50/12/F, 54/10/S and 58/12/D Putter: L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 Ball: ProV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang60 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 I personally nor anyone I've played with over 30+ years heard of such a thing, very strange thing to read. Weird.... Quote I’m a hacker who loves nothing more than to change how I play, be that grips shafts and heads its all fair game lol… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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