StrokerAce Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 I have this constant mental battle within myself. Picture this - par 5 - 475; mediocre drive of 240 that ends in rough leaving an approximately 230 yard (clear) shot to the green. do you bring out your 3 wood and go for it from the rough or lay up with a hybrid/iron. I have this bad habit of trying to 'go for it' with my 3 wood even though the ball is in the rough (not buried). My success rate is about 50/50 so I'm trying to figure out how to increase that success rate. What is the best technique/method you use when hitting out of the rough with your fairway wood? Driver- Cobra Aerojet LS Woods- Cobra LTD 3w 15*, TM Sim2 19*, Cobra F9 24* Irons- XXIO X (6-A) Wedges- Callaway Jaws Raw (54/58) Putter- Cleveland HB Soft #1 w/UST Ball- Maxfli Tour X/Wilson Triad Buggy- Clicgear 4.0 Bag- Callaway Org 14/Fairway C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozcycle Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Swing Easy, Hit Hard.....that was the mantra of Julios Boros, 3 time major champion & 18 time PGA winner. He made his living playing difficult courses. He wrote a book titled, "Swing Easy, Hit Hard" Boros suffered a fatal heart attack in 1994 on the golf course at the Coral Ridge Country Club in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. He was found sitting in a golf cart under a willow tree by two club members near the 16th hole, his favorite spot on the course. Driver: 0311 XF 10.5* w/Project X Cypher 40 gram Senior shaft or 0811 XF 12* w/Evenflo Riptide CB Senior shaft Fairways: 0211 5W & 7W w/ Evenflo Riptide CB regular shaft and Tour Edge E521 9W w/Fubuki HD50 regular shaft Hybrid: None in bag at the moment Irons: Titleist T300 5-PW w/Fubuki MV Senior graphite shafts w/Golf Pride Tour Wedges: Edison forged 49*, 53* and 57* wedges with KB PGI Senior shafts(80 grm). Putter: 33” Evnroll ER6R or ER2 or Bellum Winmore Model 707, or Nike Method Core Drone w/Evnroll Gravity Grip Bag: Vice cart bag(Black/Lime). Ball: Snell MTB Prime X, Maxfli Tour/S/X CG, Titleist Pro V1x or Titleist TruFeel Using Shot Scope X5 and Pinned Rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckymeyer Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Clear shot with no trouble I got for it all day long. However I don't carry any fairway woods, just 4 hybrids so they get through the rough pretty decent. Personally I choke down just a little bit, take a shorter backswing and then swing hard through the ball. Driver: SLDR w/ Fujikura Ventus Black 3w: '16 M2 hl w/ Diamana D+ 82 5w: Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Yellow Hybrid: 22 deg. Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Black Irons: 5i - gap Launcher CBX w/ Nippon Modus 3 125 Wedges: 54 CBX & 58 Zipcore w/ Nippon Modus 3 125 Putter: Red 7s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrokerAce Posted June 30, 2016 Author Share Posted June 30, 2016 Unfortunately I usually swing too hard - thinking "it's in the rough, I've really got to go after it" and end up with a pull hook. Thanks for the tips guys! I'll try it out. Driver- Cobra Aerojet LS Woods- Cobra LTD 3w 15*, TM Sim2 19*, Cobra F9 24* Irons- XXIO X (6-A) Wedges- Callaway Jaws Raw (54/58) Putter- Cleveland HB Soft #1 w/UST Ball- Maxfli Tour X/Wilson Triad Buggy- Clicgear 4.0 Bag- Callaway Org 14/Fairway C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkiBumGolfer Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 If it's me, it depends on the lie. If the ball is sitting up a little, the shot can actually be easier than a fairway wood from the fairway. I would go for it in this case, assuming there's not a lot of trouble around the green. If there is, or the lie is tough, I lay up. Currently In The Sun Mountain 3.5 DLX:Drivers: ​ Vapor Pro 12.5* (Open) [ Prototype (65g, approx. R+ flex)] Fairway: Big Bertha 3W (16*/N) [ Fubuki Zeta 65 stiff (69g)]Fairway: XR16 5W (19) [ProLaunch Blue 65 stiff (64g)] Hybrids R15 4h (22*) [ Speeder 77 Evolution (70g)] Irons: J15 DF 5-PW [Aerotech Steelfiber i95 stiff ssx1]Wedges: JPX 50*-6* [Dynalite Gold XP Wedge]Wedges: Forged Copper (54*-11*, 58*-9*) [Dynamic Gold Wedge]Putter: Cottonwood II 355g (33")Leupold GX-1i Rangefinder Don't sell yourself short, Judge...you're a tremendous slouch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 From 230 I am laying up even if I am in the middle of the fairway. “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor.A.Door Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 From the rough that far away I would likely try to make birdie after laying up. Clear shot to the green only works if you hit it straight, there are too many problems with going for it from the rough. Hit a7 iron and then wedge close to have a legit with shot at birdie. Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanoito Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Not to mention, if the mediocre drive is only measuring 240... what are the chances you'll hit a 230 FW wood? Muscling 230 out of the rough would probably leave you short anyways with all the risk involved. Unless I have it teed up in the rough, I would probably lay it up comfortably with an iron. SpeedZone 9* w/ Aldila Rogue Silver 60 S X2 Hot 3 Deep 14.5* w/ Aldila Tour Green 75 S JetSpeed 5W 19* w/ Matrix Velox T 69 S OR Super LS 3H 19* w/ Kuro Kage Black 80 S JPX919 Forged 4-PW w/ Modus3 105 S Vokey SM7 50/08F, 54/14F & 58/08M w/ Modus3 115 Wedge ER1 34" w/ SuperStroke Fatso 2.0 Pro / H2NO Lite Cart Bag / 3.0 / NX7 Pro LRF My reviews: MLA Putter // Titleist SM7 // PING i500 // PuttOUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrokerAce Posted July 1, 2016 Author Share Posted July 1, 2016 ... well, looks like the consensus is to layup and play for either a 1 putt birdie or 2 putt par. Thanks for the feedback! I think the most important "club" in my bag is the one between my ears.. that I need to "swing" right more often!! Driver- Cobra Aerojet LS Woods- Cobra LTD 3w 15*, TM Sim2 19*, Cobra F9 24* Irons- XXIO X (6-A) Wedges- Callaway Jaws Raw (54/58) Putter- Cleveland HB Soft #1 w/UST Ball- Maxfli Tour X/Wilson Triad Buggy- Clicgear 4.0 Bag- Callaway Org 14/Fairway C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckymeyer Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 ... well, looks like the consensus is to layup and play for either a 1 putt birdie or 2 putt par. Thanks for the feedback! I think the most important "club" in my bag is the one between my ears.. that I need to "swing" right more often!! I think there is more to it than that. Is there trouble around the green? If you miss hit are you going to still have a shot at the green? Most average golfers are going to have a better shot at getting closer to the pin from an average lie in the rough 30 yards from the green as opposed to 100 yards out in the fairway. It really depends what's around the green and how bad the 'miss' is when you miss it. If your 50/50 average is hitting the green or missing the green and being somewhere around it and not in trouble from 230 I'm probably going for it every time. If that 50/50 is being around the green or being in a hazard or behind a tree then I'm laying up. Driver: SLDR w/ Fujikura Ventus Black 3w: '16 M2 hl w/ Diamana D+ 82 5w: Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Yellow Hybrid: 22 deg. Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Black Irons: 5i - gap Launcher CBX w/ Nippon Modus 3 125 Wedges: 54 CBX & 58 Zipcore w/ Nippon Modus 3 125 Putter: Red 7s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numberonecoog Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I usually say go for it. My reasoning is If i top it then it is like laying up. If I connect pure I am getting pretty close to the green if not on. They also stats say the closer you are to the green the better your chance of knocking it close is Check out my personal Equipment Blog and Podcast! Huntingforbirdies.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigtazzGolf Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I have this constant mental battle within myself. Picture this - par 5 - 475; mediocre drive of 240 that ends in rough leaving an approximately 230 yard (clear) shot to the green. do you bring out your 3 wood and go for it from the rough or lay up with a hybrid/iron. I have this bad habit of trying to 'go for it' with my 3 wood even though the ball is in the rough (not buried). My success rate is about 50/50 so I'm trying to figure out how to increase that success rate. What is the best technique/method you use when hitting out of the rough with your fairway wood? Lay up to a good wedge distance to at least in sure I keep par in play. Tazz Grip n Rip it Chicks dig the LONG ball In my staff bag King F7+ Mitsubishi Tensei CK Pro White 60 - Graphite Tour X-Stiff CBX 13.5 3 Wood Atomic Irons 4-AW (reviewing) CG16 Satin 52* 588 RTX 2.0 56* and 60* Sentio Sierra 101-M Putter Proud tester of the Tommy Armour ATOMIC Irons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp0rtsfan86 Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I read the book Every shot counts. The book suggests that you get as close as you can. But there's a problem with that philosophy and my dad's example A. He tends to flub his woods a good bunch. It's 50/50 whether it's a 10 yard dribbler or solid contact. That doesn't include snap hooks or slices. The question is what would help you more, or how much confidence you have in a 3 wood. Considering my game, i don't hit enough good solid 3 woods to justify hitting a 3 wood right now. My dad I'd rather see him hit 6 or 7 iron and leave himself a short mid iron. As for yourself, out of the rough look at the lie. if it's down I'd rather hit iron or hybrid and move it forward. IF it's up, I'm going for it. Swing easy and finish the swing. Don't force the hit or get lazy on it. Driver: Epic Flash 12 Degree Wood: GBB 3 Wood Hybrid: Razr 4 hybriid stiff stock shaft. Irons: X2 Hot 4 iron (pro version) 5 iron - Gap Wedge (non pro version). KBS 120g Shaft stiff cut 1/2 inch bent 1°upright Wedges: 52° 56° and 60°. All grips are Golf pride grips midsized Putter (lefty): Odyssey Metal-X #8 34", stock shaft bent 2° Superstroke grip Golf Balls: 2018-9 Pro-V1x and Prov1s Shoes: Dryjoy tours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrokerAce Posted July 1, 2016 Author Share Posted July 1, 2016 I read the book Every shot counts. The book suggests that you get as close as you can. But there's a problem with that philosophy and my dad's example A. He tends to flub his woods a good bunch. It's 50/50 whether it's a 10 yard dribbler or solid contact. That doesn't include snap hooks or slices. The question is what would help you more, or how much confidence you have in a 3 wood. Considering my game, i don't hit enough good solid 3 woods to justify hitting a 3 wood right now. My dad I'd rather see him hit 6 or 7 iron and leave himself a short mid iron. As for yourself, out of the rough look at the lie. if it's down I'd rather hit iron or hybrid and move it forward. IF it's up, I'm going for it. Swing easy and finish the swing. Don't force the hit or get lazy on it.Great advice. I'll have to check out that book. Thanks! Sent from my LG-D851 using MyGolfSpy mobile app Driver- Cobra Aerojet LS Woods- Cobra LTD 3w 15*, TM Sim2 19*, Cobra F9 24* Irons- XXIO X (6-A) Wedges- Callaway Jaws Raw (54/58) Putter- Cleveland HB Soft #1 w/UST Ball- Maxfli Tour X/Wilson Triad Buggy- Clicgear 4.0 Bag- Callaway Org 14/Fairway C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 It seems to me that there are two questions here. 1. 230 is out of range for me on the courses that I play in the place that I play so it's a non factor. Let's make it 210 my max three wood distance. If it's truly clear in front of me and I know that the ball will chase I will play the ball back in my stance a bit and actually hit 5 wood rather than 3 and open the face a hair. If I flush it the ball will take off low and a bit right but will draw and chase. If I miss it (chances of a top are extremely low) it will be high on the face and end up 40 yards short of the green - since the green is already open that's not a bad spot - the other likely "bad" miss is the over draw or block but again if the green is open this will likely be close to pin high and be simple enough up and downs. BTW if you are saying it's 50/50 to get the ball on the green from 230 out of the rough (I don't think you are but if) then you are ready for the tour. 2. The second question is technique - I play it back a bit, take one less club (it's coming out hot) and try to get a tad more upright so as to avoid too much grass between the clubface and the ball. Shots like this you have to discern your lie - sometimes a 4 hybrid is even the proper play and it will go nearly as far as the 3 wood depending up course conditions. Try it sometime when the course is empty - take 3 balls and hit 3 wood, 5 wood, hybrid from the same spot - you may be surprised at the result. Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireinthehole Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Proximity to the hole is all I care about. The rough here isn't too bad. Guess ss might have something to do with it too. Yesterday the longest par 5 at my club was playing at 605 so for me, driver plus 3 wood is about 560-580, and you bet I hit both. My course doesnt have a lot of 3 woods needed so it's not in the bag at the moment. I don't have a slow tempo so I hitting something "nice and easy" turns in to jerky and cumbersome Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy mobile app My Mixed-Bag: Driver: Mavrik Sub zero, ventus black 7x Fairway: Still looking! Irons: MP-18 MB 4-PW Wedges: Miura K Grinds Putter: Evnroll 1.2 blade Ball: Z star XV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McaseyM Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 if the ball is even or slightly teed up on the rough, go for it. i almost got my first eagle my last round this way ( lipped out the putt) What's in my bag: Driver : F9 10.5, Fujikura Speeder 757 TR Fairway F9 15.5° Aldila Rogue White 80X Hybrid: King F7 18° KBS Tour PROTO Hybrid 95 S+ Irons: z585 4i - 6i, z785 7i-PW, Nippon Modus 120X Wedges: CBX 50.11, 55.11, 60.10 TT DG S400 Black Putter: Honey Badger 34" Ball: Q-Star Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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