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Hi Everyone,

 

Right now I am having an issue with finding a reliable club for the distance in between my 4 iron and 3 wood.  I currently hit my 4 iron 215 yard and my 3 wood 260.  Obviously, there is quite a break in distance from my 4 iron to the my 3 wood.  I would prefer to stay with Callaway equipment, but if there is something better out there I am open to suggestions.  Again, I would appreciate anyone's help with a recommendation of what 3 hybrid or 3 iron I should purchase to alleviate that distance in my bag.

 

Respectfully,

Mike

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Probably best to get a hybrid that gives you about a 15 yard distance gap between it and your 4 iron. A 19* or 20*hybrid should do the trick. Lots of good options out there including the M2 rescue, xr16, big Bertha and others

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Curious @RLTW83, which 3 wood do you have? Ever tried 5 wood of same brand?

Few of us are currently testing out the Ping Crossover if you'd like to read up on it.

 

 

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Hi RLTW83, that's a pretty interesting issue with your gapping. I've got pretty similar distances with those clubs myself - 4-iron is 210yd and 3 wood 250yd. I've been using a Callaway Apex 3 hybrid (20 degrees), which I can hit about 230yd. Personally, I'd consider your options - hybrid, fairway wood or driving iron - before making a decision about what club to put in your bag.

 

Talk to your local pro golfer as well, as they'd probably have a decent idea of what to do. I'd also consider trying a PING Crossover, as it's a pretty nice long iron addition to the bag as well. Thanks for reminding me BigTazz!!

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Doesn't Callaway have an Apex Utility club?

 

Something kinda like the Crossover but for (quote-unquote) better players, which it sounds like Mike is :)

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Yes, Callaway has the Apex UT (Utility Iron).

Driver: Cobra F9 Speedback (9.0) with Fujikura Atmos 7X (Avalanche White) 

3 Wood: Callaway Epic Sub-Zero (15 degrees) in Rogue Max 75g stiff shaft

Hybrid (not in play): Callaway Apex 20 degree with Kurokage 80g Stiff Shaft

Driving Iron: Wilson Staff Utility Iron 18 degree with KBS Hybrid Stiff shaft

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I had a similar issue earlier this year with distances.  I think you need to find what kind of club you hit best.  I had a 3H that I just couldn't hit consistently.  I replaced the 3H with a 5W and couldn't be happier.  I now it the 5W 225-235 and hit it reliably.  For me I found the 5W easier to hit, and easier to work both directions.  I would suggest going out and hitting a utility, hybrid and wood and see what works best for you.  Once you figure that out you can look at brands of clubs and what model.

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It's really simple - get the 5 wood to the 3 wood and your gap is filled.

 

Impressive distances - you're longer than the average scratch player who hits it 255 with the driver.  Great job - what area of your game is your weakness?  I would target working on that once you fill the gap.

 

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I got a strong 3 hybrid to fill that gap. 18.5 Adams pro idea. Hit it 235. Perfect gap fill. My yardage gap was the same as yours. I went and did a gap fitting at a local shop. I got a driving 4 iron and 3 hybrid. New gaping:

5 iron: 205

Driving 4 iron: 215-220

3 hybrid: 235

3 wood: 255-260

 

 

 

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If your 3 Wood is adjustable 9like mine) you can change the loft to a 4 Wood (16-17*) then go with a 4 Hybrid(21*).

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If you hit the 3 wood well,mother logically you should just go get the 5wood, I would check out eBay as well, and find a 3 hybrid at the same time, some courses you may want the lower flight of the hybrid, but others you may want to fly it higher with the 5 wood. You could also go with the less used 3 iron as well, there really are quite a few options to look at, I would look into all 3 and choose the best one for the day.

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I love the 5-wood idea, I use a 5 wood and love it. Adams makes great fairway woods maybe look at their Tight-Lies line. They were a popular sell while I was at Golfsmith. Good luck!

 

 

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I've seen the reviews for the Adams Tight Lies fairway woods (and hybrids), but I haven't able to test them as there aren't many places that stock that brand over here in Australia.

Driver: Cobra F9 Speedback (9.0) with Fujikura Atmos 7X (Avalanche White) 

3 Wood: Callaway Epic Sub-Zero (15 degrees) in Rogue Max 75g stiff shaft

Hybrid (not in play): Callaway Apex 20 degree with Kurokage 80g Stiff Shaft

Driving Iron: Wilson Staff Utility Iron 18 degree with KBS Hybrid Stiff shaft

Irons: Wilson Staff CB 4-PW in KBS 120 Stiff shafts

Wedges: Titleist Vokey SM6 - 50; Callaway MD4 - 56; Vokey SM9 - 60

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I've seen the reviews for the Adams Tight Lies fairway woods (and hybrids), but I haven't able to test them as there aren't many places that stock that brand over here in Australia.

they're good clubs but for me they felt really weird compared to my Nike gear, not necessarily bad but much different. They do perform well if you select the right head model though.

 

 

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they're good clubs but for me they felt really weird compared to my Nike gear, not necessarily bad but much different. They do perform well if you select the right head model though.

 

 

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I'll take your word for it. Ignoring the fact that Nike's going out of the golf club industry, there are only a handful of golf stores around Australia that actually stock them, and only 1 store within my general area.

 

My dad's a big Adam's player, as he's got the irons, wedges and putter from that particular brand.

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3 Wood: Callaway Epic Sub-Zero (15 degrees) in Rogue Max 75g stiff shaft

Hybrid (not in play): Callaway Apex 20 degree with Kurokage 80g Stiff Shaft

Driving Iron: Wilson Staff Utility Iron 18 degree with KBS Hybrid Stiff shaft

Irons: Wilson Staff CB 4-PW in KBS 120 Stiff shafts

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I play Adams on my driver and hybrid, but the Tight Lies launches too high for me with no roll. I'm by no means as long as OP, but I would guess that with that much SS, the Tight Lies won't do him any good.

 

Of course, your mileage may vary.

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I have very similar distances with my clubs. I have a 20* Callaway X2 Hot Pro hybrid, and a 23* Callaway Alpha 815 hybrid. I can't have both in my bag during a tournament so I generally keep the 20* in there.

One thing about this gap, though, is that with my length off the tee with either my driver or 3 metal, I don't use these clubs except for a specific hole on the course where I play, or only on a second shot on a long par 5 to set-up my approach. It's not a gap that is very important for me to worry about. I literally use either of these two clubs, MAYBE, once a month if I'm playing at various courses.

 

 

 

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I gap my set from 3 wood (15 degree) to Hybrid (19 degree) before going into my 4-iron.  My yardages are 240 (FW), 220-225 (hybrid) and 205-210 (4-iron).  The hybrid I use is a Tour Edge Exotics CB Pro U.  I've tried a ton of different hybrids over the past few years and this is the longest and easiest to hit IMO.

 

If you're wanting to stick with Callaway I'd honestly go find an X2Hot hybo.  Those were my favorite that Callaway made.  Long, easy to hit and they looked really nice.  Not a fan of those they have out right now.

 

If you're open to other brands I'd look at the TEE hybrids (EX9 and CB Pro U), as well as Taylormade M2.

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I think most players have hybrids in that spot.  I personally have (2) Rescue-Mid TP's, a 19* (3H) and a 22* (4H) that work well on long approach shots as well as on Par-3's.  These are oldies but goodies, with Fuji Vista Pro .335 shafts 41" and 40.5" respectively, (the 22* 4H was tipped 1/2" to bring the trajectory down a bit).  Haven't found anything better than these, and they really suit my eye well!..  :)

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I love my 3 wood and 4 iron but the 3 iron was hit or miss...either I hit it really well or really bad no middle ground.  And hybrids did not agree with me so I tried 5 woods but I was hitting them too far for the distance I was trying to cover...so my fitter suggested a 7 wood and i balked at first but after testing it and seeing the numbers it was an easy choice.  My 7 wood can get out to 225 if needed but a nice easy swing gets me the 210 to 215 I was looking for.  My buddies gave me crap until I striped it and stuck it to 10 feet from 220. 

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Hi Everyone,

 

Right now I am having an issue with finding a reliable club for the distance in between my 4 iron and 3 wood.  I currently hit my 4 iron 215 yard and my 3 wood 260.  Obviously, there is quite a break in distance from my 4 iron to the my 3 wood.  I would prefer to stay with Callaway equipment, but if there is something better out there I am open to suggestions.  Again, I would appreciate anyone's help with a recommendation of what 3 hybrid or 3 iron I should purchase to alleviate that distance in my bag.

 

Respectfully,

Mike

I know this is an old thread, but I'd also suggest a heavenwood. My 4 iron is my 200 club, and my 3 wood is my 230. Heavenwood fits in at the 210-220 range for me, and with the adjustability of being able to change the lofts, I'd be surprised if you didn't find something that fit the yardage you're looking for.

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I play the Callaway Big Bertha Diablo 3 and 5 woods (18° and 15°). The next club is the 4 iron for me too. If you like your Callaway 3w I'd check out the 5w.

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