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Do you guys see a difference in recycled vs refinished golf balls?

Found an old article, http://site.rockbottomgolf.com/scratch-the-cavemans-blog/2013/01/23/recycled-and-refinished-golf-balls-whats-the-difference/

It got me thinking.

I've played both and really don't see a difference except in the money spent towards them vs new.

What do yall think?

 

 

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Many years ago when I was an 18-20 hcp, I routinely bought recycled balls and never noticed a difference.  I probably couldn't tell now either, but I've gotten used to playing new balls.  I don't lose as many as I used to, and I like pulling a new ball out of a sleeve.  If I hadn't found the Snell MTB and Get Sum balls at a reasonable price, I might still be playing them.

 

FYI, here is the quote from Dean Snell in the "Quo Vadis" thread:

 

"The second chance balls are typically balls that have been pulled from a pond or water holes.. they are sometimes cleaned and sold as is, and sometimes covers are attempted to be re molded or re painted to make look new.. There are a few concerns here.  If the balls have been in the water for a long time, they will start to absorb  water, and gain weight.  This can do two things.. make the balls slower in ball speed, and also possibly make them illegal by being over the USGA weight limit.  We all try to make the legal balls to the weight limit, so it does not take much to make them over the limit if sitting in pond for a long time.  When new covers or new paint is applied, then all the aerodynamics are lost as there can be too much paint and flood the dimples and cause weird flights.   As for the X-0uts that are sold by the companies as true xouts, these could be from various reasons where they failed some spec in the process.. maybe too light.. maybe too heavy... maybe cosmetic defects.. maybe out of core specs, out of compression specs, etc.. you do not know as they all get lumped into one group and sold as a dozen."

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Tazz I've played both before. I bought a doz. PV1 refinished a couple of years ago and they played just fine. The finish was a little cheap I recall. Performance wise they seemed fine.

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I'll take good condition recycled over refinished any day. The covers are so much more durable. The refinished balls scuff up and the paint peels so quickly it's not worth it. I've had to pull them in as little as 2 holes.

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I'll take good condition recycled over refinished any day. The covers are so much more durable. The refinished balls scuff up and the paint peels so quickly it's not worth it. I've had to pull them in as little as 2 holes.

I second icemans comment.

 

 

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I just can't do it. As someone who's spent way too much time getting my clubs to the best specs for my game through fitting and tinkering, so I can't blame the equipment when I'm playing poorly, I can't handle the thought of using recycled balls and wondering if they are costing me distance or spin. The balls are as important to me as any piece of equipment in my bag. Luckily there are tons of deals right now on my favorite ball, the Srixon Z-Star XV, so it's not an issue.

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I just can't do it. As someone who's spent way too much time getting my clubs to the best specs for my game through fitting and tinkering, so I can't blame the equipment when I'm playing poorly, I can't handle the thought of using recycled balls and wondering if they are costing me distance or spin. The balls are as important to me as any piece of equipment in my bag. Luckily there are tons of deals right now on my favorite ball, the Srixon Z-Star XV, so it's not an issue.

Get divorced and pay alimony for a number of years.... you'll be able to handle playing recycled golf balls.  :D

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Haha. I guess I don't strike the ball well enough to tell a difference between them.

Both new and used act the same. Bought 7 dz refinished Titleist pro v1 and they play just as well as new to me.

 

 

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Recycled = scuffed up or logo balls that's washed and cleaned. Refinished = painted recycled balls. Both play reasonably well, unless they were water balls for a long period of time. I prefer recycled over refinished balls any day, because refinished balls can peel sometimes. IMHO

 

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I am in need of an education here.  What is the savings on a dozen Premium balls when buying Recycled vs Refinished vs New? Lets use the ubiquitous Pro V1 in this example please.  

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I pay $30 for clean (no scuff or logos or markings) Pro V1. I pay $40 for new in box Pro V1 on Craigslist, that seems to be what they go for around here. In fact, meeting a guy in a couple of hours to pick up a dozen more.

 

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I use recycled balls some depends on what I am doing. If playing for the heck of it I use recycled. If playing some of my money matches I use new. For a while I was using a softer ball either the Srixon Soft Feel or the Bridgestone Treo Soft but due to me loosing weight and my flexability getting better my swing speed increased so I am back to the Pro V 1 or X or the Srixon Z or Q star. The soft balls are cheap enough new @ 19.00 a dozen or so. I have a deal going with a buddy of mine who deals in used balls I get either Pro Vs or Z Stars 18 for $15 grade "A". Of course I do some club deals with this guy so it all works out

 

I do not mess with refinished or refurbished balls period. If you look closely the dimples will not be even due to refinishing and I have had some funky flights with those balls in the past. I have also been told that there are some out there marked like Pro V  that are other cheaper balls with decals. Do not know first hand how true that is though

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I wouldn't touch either. Plenty of good value to be had with new balls. I don't need another excuse for a poor shot.

 

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SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft

Ping G410 7, 9 wood  Alta 65 R flex

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I pay $30 for clean (no scuff or logos or markings) Pro V1. I pay $40 for new in box Pro V1 on Craigslist, that seems to be what they go for around here. In fact, meeting a guy in a couple of hours to pick up a dozen more.

 

 

I pay just under $20.00 for a dozen recycled ProV1's.

Thanks for the info. I like to think that I am as frugal as the next guy. However, Golf is one of my main hobbies, and I cannot fathom saving less than the cost of a few cups of coffee for less than premium balls. For me, One Dozen balls will typically last at least a month, a possibly longer if I am hitting it good. For $10 a month, I'll take the New in Box balls...

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With the price of New Pro V1-like balls centering around $30, the demand for refinished and refurbished balls may be declining and will probably drive their prices down.

 

 

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I usually buy used AAAA or AAAAA. No sense in paying full price for a box of brand new balls. Once you hit them once they're used anyways. And at about 45% cheaper than new... can't be beat. I just lose them anyways.

 

Won't do refurbished though. Got 36 Taylormade Tour Preferred's from the mother in law... perfect for back yard practice. Not for on course use, unless I'm fresh out of "good" balls.

 

I've found really good quality stuff from one place, and really poor quality from another.

 

If I'm playing for $ I usually buy a new sleeve or 2 in the pro shop.

 

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I bought a dozen refurbished ProV1's once. It was a poor job at bestoif refurbishing. They were all off balance. Ball flight was left to right and right to left - on the same shot. Never again.

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I usually go on ebay and pick up last year's premium ball for around $20 to $25 a box (I buy 6 dozen at a time). Got the same deal on the 2017 B330-RX's this go around. I thought about picking up some used balls, but at this price for new balls it was too good to pass up.

 

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As a long time user of Bridgestone 330 golf ball, I looked into that site lostgolfballs.com and the refinished ones. Bought 5 dozen about in October and for an update I have noticed no difference in distance or spin, the cover however is slightly less durable.

Will I buy another 60? If I wasn't such a tinker guy, I probably would, but I like to try out a new ball every once in a while so we will see. Maybe gonna go the Vice route and try them.

 

 

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I wouldn't touch either. Plenty of good value to be had with new balls. I don't need another excuse for a poor shot.

 

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I agree completely.  There are budget balls on the market that compare to premium (Ksig, Vice, etc.).  There are too many unknowns in the refurb/refinished category for me.  

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Recycled is just used balls cleaned up, refinished balls are somehow painted again which I do not like. 

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Walmart here has recycled pro v1 for about 12. Doz

 

 

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I play recycled Prov1's never really had an issue I but the mint or the one lower never an issue. Though I will play new Prov's when I'm playing in tournaments. Even though I don't notice a difference makes me feel better knowing a new.

 

 

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I have no desire to introduce yet another potential variable into my game.

 

I will stick with new

 

 

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Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60  Aldila  R flex   - 42.25 inches 

SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft

Ping G410 7, 9 wood  Alta 65 R flex

Srixon ZX5 MK II  5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex

India 52,56 (60 pending)  UST recoil 75's R flex  

Evon roll ER 5 32 inches

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