OFFICIAL FORUM MEMBER REVIEW - Cleveland RTX-3 Wedges

[jayjay0808]

Nice job SinghMech and JayJay

 

What a story Jayjay, That must have been pretty scary getting down to such a low weight.  But congrats to you for fighting back and regaining a top level game.   And I'm sorry to tell you, even your 80's are much much better than the average golfer...LOL

 

Thank you. Definitely was pretty scary, but as they say what doesn't kill you makes you stronger right?

[GolfSpy Barbajo]

Lowell's Stage 1 is up. Check it out here...

 

http://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/17480-official-forum-member-review-cleveland-rtx-3-wedges/?p=233320

[Kkaw1988]

Great start from all can't wait for stage 2's!

 

 

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[MDGolfHacker]

All:

  Enjoyed reading your initial thoughts on the Cleveland RTX-3 wedges.  I started out with Cleveland wedges and have since switched to Titleist Spin Mill wedges in the bag, BUT, the tech in these RTX-3 wedges are intriguing, enough to get me to potentially switch over.  I'll be interested to read your next reviews of these wedges.

 

MDGolfHacker

[cksurfdude]

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[Hula Rock]

All:

Enjoyed reading your initial thoughts on the Cleveland RTX-3 wedges. I started out with Cleveland wedges and have since switched to Titleist Spin Mill wedges in the bag, BUT, the tech in these RTX-3 wedges are intriguing, enough to get me to potentially switch over. I'll be interested to read your next reviews of these wedges.

 

MDGolfHacker

I switched from SM5's...

 

I think the best benefit of these wedges are the shift of center of gravity. Distances are much more consistent

[MDGolfHacker]

I switched from SM5's...

 

I think the best benefit of these wedges are the shift of center of gravity. Distances are much more consistent

 

Glad to hear this!  I can't wait to test them out during a local demo day.

 

MDGolfHacker

[GolfSpy Barbajo]

HeathS16's Stage 2 Review is up!

 

http://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/17480-official-forum-member-review-cleveland-rtx-3-wedges/?p=233309

[jayjay0808]

Stage 2 is up. Enjoy boys and please feel free to ask any questions you may have!

[EricM]

These reviews are very helpful, as ponder a move away from my Glides.

[PMookie]

My Stage 2 is up!!! Feel free to ask questions, make comments!!!

 

 

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[PMookie]

These reviews are very helpful, as ponder a move away from my Glides.

My whole Stage 2 that's up is a comparison to my Ping Glides.

 

 

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[Sschaffer24]

PMookie's Stage Two is up! http://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/17480-official-forum-member-review-cleveland-rtx-3-wedges/?p=233312

[Sschaffer24]

Jayjay0808's Stage two is up! http://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/17480-official-forum-member-review-cleveland-rtx-3-wedges/?p=233315

[Fireinthehole]

Interested to see if any of the testers have used the Cleveland RTX 2.0's wedges and could compare. 

[PMookie]

Interested to see if any of the testers have used the Cleveland RTX 2.0's wedges and could compare.

I make mention, quickly, about having had the 2.0 and I moved away from them because of distance loss.

 

 

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[ole gray]

Cleveland RTX 3.0- Official MGS Forum Review by PMookie

 

 

A few things that caught my attention:

 

V sole -  Your comment below reminded me of a club I tested years ago that had a similar sole. It was call the ATV sole from TaylorMade.   I loved the sole on that wedge.

 

"There has been an improvement in my thoughts now and looking down at these in the fairway or rough, I don't have the mind creeping into worry about digging. It's been nice! I have picked-up a greater degree of consistency with these and that has helped my scores."

 

The versatility you speak of is very important for a good consistent short game.

 

Sound -  Clicky huh?  I prefer a softer sound too on my wedges and putter however if they work and improve my scores, it can sound like a fat hoss on hard payment heading off to a Christmas party.  I could adjust to the sound.

 

Very impressed with your review and I'm digging er liking the "V" sole concept.  I might have to check these out and soon. 

 

[jayjay0808]

I am sorry but I've never used the 2.0's. Other than just at a golf shop

[PMookie]

Things that caught my attention:

 

V sole - Your comment below reminded me of a club I tested years ago that had a similar sole. It was call the ATV sole from TaylorMade. I loved the sole on that wedge.

 

"There has been an improvement in my thoughts now and looking down at these in the fairway or rough, I don't have the mind creeping into worry about digging. It's been nice! I have picked-up a greater degree of consistency with these and that has helped my scores."

 

The versatility you speak of is very important for a good consistent short game.

 

Sound - Clicky huh? I prefer a softer sound too on my wedges and putter however if they work and improve my scores, it can sound like a fat hoss on hard payment heading off to a Christmas party. I could adjust to the sound.

 

Very impressed with your review and I'm digging er liking the "V" sole concept. I might have to check these out and soon.

 

It's hard to describe the sound when the sound of the wedges I've had for some time is more muted... As I mentioned in the review, it's possible that the ONLY reason I notice this sound difference is because I've been looking for one. "Clickier" is the best I could come up with, but it doesn't do the sound/feel justice, honestly.

 

Like you say, all that matters is what they say on the Aspercreme commercials: "Why Aspercreme? Because it WORKS!" Same for the RTX 3.0.

 

 

 

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[Peterpc2828]

Cleveland RTX 3.0- Official MGS Forum Review by PMookie

 

Player Biography

I went with the Black Satin heads, True Temper Dynamic Gold TI Onyx S400 shafts, all +1", with MCC+4 black and gray midsize grips, + 2 wraps. I went with 48* 2-dot, 52* 2-dot, and 56* 1-dot all based on my fitting on the Cleveland Wedge Analyzer and with some input from the Cleveland/Srixon rep here.

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The main reason I went with black was I thought the combo of the black heads with the all black TI Onyx shafts would look pretty sick... They do!!! They look incredible! I almost feel like Darth Vader when I pull them from my black golf bag!!!

 

I went with the 48*/52*/56* because after switching from Callaway Apex irons to my Srixon Z545 irons, I picked-up about another 5 yards and the distance gap between my Z PW and my Ping Glide 50* had moved to around 20 yards! I had the RTX 2.0 previous to my Ping Glides, so I was curious to see if the distance had picked-up a bit on the new 3.0. That was why I ultimately switched to Glides, the extra distance. I had worn out a set of Ping Rustique wedges and moved to the RTX 2.0 when they came out. Distance became a problem, but at the time I couldn't afford new wedges. My main attraction to the Glides was the look. Simple. That satin finish they have... Man, they just looked GOOD!!! I've been pretty happy with the Glides overall. No real complaints. They feel ok and they work well on the course. All was good.

 

I wanted to gain more versatility with these 3.0s. My Glides all have standard soles. Just flat, no grind for being able to create shots. Our fairways here, where I play, are generally pretty hard, so in order to prevent digging, I had picked the "SS" version on all three. With the RTX 3.0, I was determined to add at least ONE wedge with the low bounce, one dot, just to have some options around the green. This is where I took the advice of the rep and went with the one dot on the 56*. I don't hit many flop shots... Never have. So the overwhelming ways I use my wedges is for full-shots, first and foremost, and then chipping and pitching. I liked the idea of having a thinner sole on one of these JUST so I could have a better chance of sliding the leading edge under the ball on our tight, hard pan areas around the greens.

 

Performance

 

Performance at the Range

The day I received these clubs in the mail, I went IMMEDIATELY to the range!!!! I started out hitting them off of the mats just to get a sense of the feel and distance without having to worry about digging or hitting fat. Initially, I wasn't so much concerned over "accuracy". I just wanted to get a sense of feel, sound, distance, the weighting, how it looked to my eye right away, etc. Just some "first thoughts" I guess. So, I grabbed one of the wedges, put a ball down and swung... "Holy cow, these feel AWESOME," I thought! I look down at the face, and low-and-behold, a ball mark in the DEAD CENTER of the face! I thought, "Yeah, these might work out just fine!"

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One thing became very apparent, and I'll touch on this later in my review to a greater degree, but the club just LOOKED different at address... I couldn't put my finger on it right away, but after reading on the Cleveland site I finally figured out what it was. More to come later...

 

After going through the bucket on the mat, and then another off grass, I was able to get a sense that the accuracy was very similar to what I had seen with my Glides. I wouldn't say they were a TON more accurate than my gamers, but they were a LITTLE more, so I was good here. At my range we have a flag that sits right around 110 from where I normally hit. It has a "green area" around the flag that might be 20 yards wide and I was able to hit this area quite consistently, more than with my Glides. When I missed, I tended to miss left with these, but with my Glides I missed in both directions.

 

I CAN say this: THESE RTX 3.0 ARE LONGER THAN MY PING GLIDES. But, that is because all of the lofts are stronger! HA! Since I went with different lofts to match the gaps in my bag and not to match the lofts of the wedges I had, I won't be able to review if these are "longer" or not. I do have yardages for these, but not a true comparison.

(Ping 50 shots 1-5, Cleveland 48 shots 6-10)

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(Ping 58 shots 1-5, Cleveland 56 shots 6-9)

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(Contact areas on face from the LM data from above)

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Trajectory was definitely NOT as high as my Glides, This was one area that stuck out immediately and made me smile! I am a VERY high ball hitter and sometimes I have issues playing in the wind, so I REALLY enjoyed seeing a more penetrating ball flight!

 

My mishits at the range have been generally fat with the Pings. They have a bit of "heft" to them, they feel "head heavy" and I have a tendency to really lose it on the way down, causing my fat shots. The mishits I had with these 3.0 are the opposite: they're THIN. Is it because of the different sole design? The value of the V-Sole making sure the club doesn't dig? I actually think this IS the reason! I just never got down deep and plugged with these on the range at all! Hitting them off of the mats was especially nice because I wasn't "bouncing" the wedge in to the ball anymore. On face contact, my miss with wedges has historically been closer to the heel because of my "in-to-out" swing. My arms extend away from me, the club head moves out and away from my body, and I make contact inside toward the heel. With my Glides, this caused a very drastic drop in distance. I noticed on the range that the distance loss with the RTX was negligible at best. The feel was better when this happened as well.

 

In all of my range time with these RTXs, I have been able to flight my shots very easily. For the most part, I only swing full and hit a spinner/grabber from about 75-80 yards and I don't mess around with much else. These did very well with those shots when I was trying the "knockdown". I don't hit draws and fades on command anymore, so I didn't try to move the ball left to right and then directionally high or low either...

 

I learned a lot about these wedges around the chipping green, which I hoped to do since it's the weakest part of my game. The one thing that stuck out the most was the increased roll I had with these compared to my Glides. There was a feel/sound difference, and the look was very different. I was much more consistent with the RTXs from shot-to-shot around the green and a lot of that was due to the V-sole preventing me from digging and hitting fat. The one major benefit to these has been how the sole has given me confidence off of the shaven tight lies around parts of our greens. I'm not so scared anymore that I'm going to "duff" a chip. Do I still duff some? Yep. But since I've been practicing, these wedges have helped me find a stroke and gain some confidence. That's huge! "Bigly" even!

 

Range Score: 8/10 These performed well in practice. Exceptionally? Nah. Good? Yes. Did they meet my high expectations? Yes.

 

Performance on the Course

 

I spent the first three weeks playing these EXCLUSIVELY on course, meaning I didn't carry my Pings with me at all. These went into the bag and they were gamed right away for scores. I worked out my distances on-course with these by guessing where they should be at first. I expected them all to fall in to these lengths: 48* should be 125 yards, the 52* should be about 115-ish, and the 56* should be right-on 100 yards. I came-up with these distances based upon my Glides and how far they went. The whole goal was to find wedges that hit these yardages... These turned out to be right on with what I needed! They filled the exact gaps I needed! BOOM!

 

One thing that showed-up on course was the lack of fat shots here as well. I wasn't hitting those diggers that always cost me in almost every round. Playing down here in Bermuda, with tight fairway lies, one has to learn to get down and get the ball! I was EXTREMELY happy to not see this shots as often! Those V-soles really do their job! Because of this, my accuracy improved just by having more consistent action through the turf. There has been an improvement in my thoughts now and looking down at these in the fairway or rough, I don't have the mind creeping into worry about digging. It's been nice! I have picked-up a greater degree of consistency with these and that has helped my scores.

 

As stated in my Stage 1, I am not very good with the wedge game around the green. My chips and pitches are killing me. On the course with my Pings, I had a tendency to hit my touch shots fat, just like fairway misses. The club just plugs in to the ground. Well, with the RTXs, this has improved, and any misses around the green are actually thin now! I'll take thin all day! I'll at least GET to the hole! HA! The narrower soles, and having the 1-dot on the 56* has made my chipping and pitching easier to perform. I really like my 48* right now after practicing a lot with it in the short game. I really have increased some consistency around the greens because of this one club. We all know, once a bit of confidence starts to show-up in the old noggin', things just seem to get a bit better!!!

First pic are Ping chips, next are the RTX

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Going back to the point I made about being a high-ball hitter, I don't much see a ball "back-up" just because my shot comes down so steeply. In order for me to make this happen, I have to put the ball back in my stance and hit it as a three-quarter "knockdown". Spin with these was very similar to my Pings on these shots. Where I really noticed less spin was in chips and pitches right around the green. The RTXs spun less and had more rollout than my Glides did... I was past the hole more than I came-up short, which is better than being short, but I did have to adjust. One note on this spin difference- was I seeing this because my Pings and the RTXs don't match-up exactly in loft? I'm hitting a 48* just off the green instead of a 50*? When I do try a "flop-ish" shot is it rolling-out more because it's a 56* and not a 58*? Not sure, but, it was noticeable and I had to make adjustments.

 

All-in-all, these soles are VERY effective! One of the main reasons I LOVE my Z545 irons is because of the V-sole and the consistency it gives me shot-to-shot. I don't have to worry about digging! With these RTXs I'm at the same place. I'm still trying to learn their intricacies, and I have a ways to go, but the sole on the RTX is as good as billed!

RTX soles vs my Glide soles

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I've always been a pretty good sand player, so this area of the course hasn't really been an issue for me. I would get out my 54* Glide and go. I use the 56* with the RTXs just because it has the narrower 1dot sole and I like the idea of that sliding through the sand below the ball. We don't have many traps on the course where I generally play, so it's rare if I have to hit a blast during a round. I dropped a few balls here and there in the greenside traps just to give these a test, and the 56* performed as expected. It slid right through and out popped the ball. It seemed that I got a TAD bit more rollout, but not enough to say, "These RTXs don't spin out of the sand as much as Ping Glides." No issues with the sand at all.

 

Course Score: 35/40

 

Performance Notes

 

These wedges performed just as consistently on the course as they did on the range. One place I feel I've gained an advantage with these is actually out of our deep Bermuda rough! One shot I had in my last round was to the 16th hole from the rough, which is about 3" deep right now, where I had to go over a huge tree to the green that was 92 yards away. I grabbed my RTX 56* and went after it. The club worked its way down to the ball through all of that rough and I was able to make great contact! It felt AWESOME! I knew it would be good. Up it went, cleared the tree, traveled another 20 yards, came down and died three feet behind the divot! PERFECT! I had a very similar shot on the 1st hole a day before. 100 yards out of the rough, grabbed the 56* and BINGO. On the green. They don't have that "head-heavy" feel my Pings do and it helps me with confidence that I'm not going to dig. Add-in the sole I've been gushing about and I'm pretty happy.

 

One item of note is the grooves needing more than a wet towel to clean all of the grass and dirt out of them. I noticed this day one on the range and if one buys these, you gotta have some kind of steel brush, or some type of groove cleaner available. With any set of wedges I've previously owned, a wet towel has always been enough to clean everything off. Not these. Outside of this, there isn't anything performance-wise I'd do away with here. These are solid wedges that allow one to make all of the shots necessary with a great degree of consistency. Whether out of the fairway, rough, or around the green, these have all of the versatility one could ask for. They improved the distance issue I had with the 2.0 version, and maybe that has something to do with the movement of the center of gravity more toward the middle... I'm not positive, but these are a definite improvement over the prior model. Cleveland/Srixon have really done a great job with the soles of their clubs. Until one can put them to the test versus clubs with no V-sole, one might never know what all of the fuss is about. I remember a few years back making a comment on one of these sites that "turf interaction" was one of the most overused terms in golf forums ("stripe show" owns that now), but now that I have irons and wedges with these soles, talking about how much a difference they make can't be talked about ENOUGH! HA!

 

A pic to show the grouping of shots with my RTX 48 on the LM

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Subjective

 

Looks

 

When looking at the back of the club where the "RTX" is stamped, this club looks sick! That satin finish is just awesome! The black color is perfect and the blue color of the "dots" is just the right touch of color. They're a great looking club... Until one looks down and swears there is "offset", or the club is hanging off just a bit oddly. I couldn't figure out what it was that I was seeing, but I figured it out over time. Cleveland took weight from the hosel to help move the COG toward the middle of the face. The hosel has a curve to it. It narrows a bit from the top, widens in the middle, then narrows toward the bottom. What this did to my eyes was make me think there was an extra degree or two of offset. To me, it looks like the head just sits out there on this LITTLE bit of metal. I've become used to it, and I'm glad I figured out why it looks like it does because it was very odd at the beginning. One thing I think it has done mentally is give me a little bit more confidence at address seeing that the leading edge isn't right there! It is, but my mind sees it as more offset. Overall, it's a really great looking club. The plain silver satin may actually be better looking than the black too!

Here are a few pics at different angles to get you the sense of the "bulge" in the hosel as it moves from ferrule to head. A couple pics to compare the Ping to the RTX as well.

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Score: 12/15

 

Sound and Feel

 

As I stated before, the first shot I ever took with these I flushed it! The only clubs I can compare these two at this point are my Glides. Do these feel better than my Glides? Well, they feel DIFFERENT than my Glides. The Pings have that "head-heavy" feel, as I've stated, these don't. The overall feel of these, just holding them, they feel lighter than my Pings... Crazy thing is... They aren't! I went to Dick's and weighed them. Here's what I found:

 

Cleveland RTX 3.0

48* is 37" long and weighs in at a D9 swing weight

52* is 36.75", D9.5

56* is 36.5", E.5

 

Ping Glide

50* is 37" long and weighs at a D8 swing weight

54* is 36.75", D9

58* is 36.5", E0

 

First 2 pics are of the RTXs on the scale, 2nd two are of the Pings.

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Measuring

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Same lengths, but the Clevelands weigh MORE! But in the hand the FEEL lighter to me! Is the hosel and head heavier in the Ping, but lighter in the RTX 3.0??? What gives me that sensation with the swing weight being different than what I sense??? I was shocked to see that the Glides weighed less! SHOCKED! The RTXs seem lighter when chipping, pitching, and especially in the full swing. When I'm practicing my chips vs the Pings I still have a tendency to duff/hit fat, but I tend to thin the RTXs. I re-weighed them. I was sure I was wrong, or wrote down the info wrong... Nope.

 

So, the "sound" matches what I'm sensing. There is a higher-pitched "click" with the Clevelands than with the Pings. The Glides just have a softer, deeper sound to them, no matter the shot. It's most noticeable on chips. I tried to video it yesterday so y'all could hear it, but all the video sounded like was me hitting through grass... Oh well. I've become used to the deeper sound of the Pings just because I've been playing them for more than a year, and I do like a more muted, quieter, softer sound off a wedge. I don't like a click. It's not the type of ball used as I tested these wedges with urethane covered balls and non-urethane covered balls. Soft cores, harder cores. It didn't matter which ball was used, the sound and feel of the RTXs was "clickier" and "lighter" respectively.

Pics of the wedges and balls used for comparison

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Sound and Feel Score: 9/15

 

Likelihood of Purchase

 

Hmm. How would I decide in a real-world situation? I'd be at a demo day and I'd have been to all of the tents hitting wedges and I'd have to choose. Are the graphics appealing? Yes. Is the performance there? Yes. The soles on these are amazing! Do they perform on chips, pitches, full shots, 1/2 shots? Yes. Are the distance, ball flight, and consistency there? Yes. Could I open up the face and not BLADE every shot? Yes. How do they look at address? Hmm. Different. Not bad... Just different. How do they sound? Hmm... A little clicky. How do they feel in-hand? A little light. How do they feel during the shot? A little light... Would I buy them? Yes. Would I buy them after ONLY trying them at a demo day? Well, if all of the shots felt like the first one I ever hit with these, yes! Man, I'm finicky. I don't like a "click". I want a "cushiony" feel like the ball got lost in some kind of liquid on the face. These had that feel day one. I've been picking them apart for the better part of three to four weeks. I've torn them down and paid attention to every SINGLE difference between my Pings and these. Based on my initial first few days with these, I'd say I'd be very likely to buy these. After having them for a bit now, do they satisfy all my wants and needs for a wedge? They miss in the sound and feel category. Performance is there. No doubt. Am I better with my wedges today than I was with my Glides? Yes.

 

LOP Score: 16/20

 

Subjective Notes/Conclusion

 

I think all of what I've been thinking about these wedges is covered in the LOP... Look, these wedges perform and I'm a better wedge player now than I was with my Glides. I really do believe that the sole of this club is pretty dang close to perfect. Could there be a little more spin? I do. Could the feel and sound be better? I do. What have I told those who've asked me, "How do you like the wedges?" I've said, "I really like them!" If someone were to ask me what wedges they ought to try out for purchasing, I'd tell them these IMMEDIATELY! It would have been AWESOME to have needed the exact same lofts as what my Pings are to have an EXACT comparison, but these definitely fit the yardage gaps below my pitching wedge much better than what I've had. My scores should end-up reflecting that in the next few months.

 

In conclusion, I really do like these wedges. I didn't even notice a huge weight difference or a sound/feel difference when I put these right into the bag. I thought they were lighter, and it has taken a bit to get used to the hosel, not that it was bad, just that it had a different look at address. I will not be getting rid of these. The Glides will be sold, soon! I will say it is very important to at least go grab the Cleveland Wedge Analyzer before you buy these, then talk to a rep, or fitter about the grinds to get, just to confirm that your swing matches what the analyzer spits out, and that your playing conditions and "likes" fit it as well. I will be using this 48* around the fringe and just off the greens for some time to come! I just love how it sits there, how it looks! I'll just make sure to keep buying metal brushes for keeping my grooves clean for the foreseeable future!

 

Total Score: 80/100

 

A couple pics to show the grooves and faces of the RTX and the Glide

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A couple pics to show where I got the LM data (Rob Noel Golf Academy, Big Easy location in New Orleans)

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and the short game area at my course

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Great review, funny I have the glides as well, I love the black satin finish but my question is since you have had them for a bit how has the finish held up? Does the black show wear? Thanks and great job!

 

 

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[ole gray]

It's hard to describe the sound when the sound of the wedges I've had for some time is more muted... As I mentioned in the review, it's possible that the ONLY reason I notice this sound difference is because I've been looking for one. "Clickier" is the best I could come up with, but it doesn't do the sound/feel justice, honestly.

 

Like you say, all that matters is what they say on the Aspercreme commercials: "Why Aspercreme? Because it WORKS!" Same for the RTX 3.0.

 

 

 

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Or it could mean they might be a bit clicky because that's the sound when the skins (money) you make at your weekly game hit the piggy bank....  

[PMookie]

Great review, funny I have the glides as well, I love the black satin finish but my question is since you have had them for a bit how has the finish held up? Does the black show wear? Thanks and great job!

 

 

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Thanks! Here's a pic. Yes, the black finish is already starting to wear off of the exterior, but not the faces.

 

 

 

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[fozcycle]

The V soles are very enticing

 

 

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[Rtracymog]

I really like the weight of the RTX 3. It feels much more substantial than the 2.0. They also spin the ball really well. With that being said, I'm not a huge fan of the V-sole. I'm an M-grind, low bounce kind of guy because I like to pick my shots pretty clean from 100 and it. The V-sole just seemed a little too chunky for me. Granted I only spent about 10-15 minutes with them and I didn't try anything off the grass. Just my initial reactions. These are going to sell pretty well I think!

 

 

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[Fireinthehole]

I make mention, quickly, about having had the 2.0 and I moved away from them because of distance loss.

 

 

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Interesting. Maybe the new cg position made that much of a difference?

 

 

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[Hula Rock]

Interesting. Maybe the new cg position made that much of a difference?

 

 

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Makes a ton of difference, at least for me 

[Big Canoer]

My golf game is STILL in flux. For the past two years I've been working with two teaching pros to get my swing down and it's still a struggle. I was one of those guys that read every book, hit every swing site, watched a million different videos on swing mechanics, etc, all trying to find "my" swing. None of it worked. I decided to go to the best pro I could find and start the process of building a swing. Now, I am still playing golf SWING more than I play golf, and every time I go to the range I'm still having to remember where I am in my progression and remember what I'm working on. So, as I said, my game is in flux, as evidenced by my last 20 scores being 5 rounds in the 70's, and the rest in the 80's, and my GHIN is a 6.3.

 

With the full swing still under construction, I've spent very little time working on my short game, so that is where I actually "lose" strokes each round. My chipping is not leaving me 3'-4', it's leaving me 20'! The major issue is that after growing-up playing everything as a bump-and-run, I can't do that where I play most often because of all 18 greens being "elevated". The areas around the greens are "rough", in both senses of the term, with thick/high Bermuda that I have to chip and pitch out of. If you watched the PGA guys suffer with that stuff last week, you know my pain. It makes the short game that much more difficult. Getting the chance to review these wedges will finally FORCE me to go practice, so I'm stoked!

 

The strengths of my game right now... Hmm... Determination!!! Ha! With so much still being worked-on, I guess I'd have to go with my distance off the tee. At 47, to still be able to get it out there over 300 yards 1/3 of the time, even if the drives aren't straight, I'm usually only a wedge away from the green. I do read greens well using Aimpoint, but my distance control is sometimes a challenge as I'm a golf ball tester for a company and I usually have various balls in play that actually require different levels of feel.

 

My typical miss would be a cut right now, but my BIG miss is a yank/hook! I'm a high ball hitter, with a VERY aggressive move from the top. In my drivers, over the last 3 years, every shaft I've been fitted for is low launch, low spin, with a very stiff butt section to handle that initial load. The last time my swing speed was measured using Trackman a couple months back, it measured an average of 112 mph. Lately, I guarantee it's not over 109! I've been golfing for over 35 years. I learned to play at Pat's Par 3 in Ypsilanti, Michigan, and I wasn't taken to a "full-sized" course until I was able to play the par 3 course with success. I wish there were more of these courses for young people, because it SURE helped me develop some confidence early!

 

My bag is currently made of these sticks and shafts:

Driver: Nakashima Ntec 2.85, 8*, with a Fubuki Alpha 70 X stiff shaft that plays at 45 14".

Fwy: Callaway XR 15* that has a Diamana D+ 82 X shaft in it.

Hybrids: Callaway X2 Hot Pro 20*, and a Callaway Big Bertha Alpha 815 23* and both have Tour AD-DI 85 X shafts.

Irons: Srixon Z545 4-PW, all +1" in length, standard lie, and they are shafted with Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Regular flex.

Wedges: obviously the Cleveland RTX 3.0, 48*/52*/56* Black Satin with True Temper Dynamic Gold TI Onyx S400 shafts all at +1", standard lie.

Putter: SeeMore FGP Giant, counter-weighted, 38".

Ball: Vision Golf (Australia), various offerings depending on the review at hand...

 

All of the clubs in my bag were chosen based on fittings. I have changed shafts in the irons from the original TT DG S400 because the swing weight with my extra inch was all the way up at E2. If you ever get the chance to feel how heavy that is, let me know... It was like swinging a telephone pole! I chose the Steelfibers because of weight and being graphite. I had tried the TT XP95 and liked the weight, but the ballooning was horrible, thus I chose to stay in the same weight range and find a shaft with lower launch characteristics in graphite for the vibration dampening as well.

 

To finish, my wedge game is very good on full shots. I'm not sure of my distances with these new RTXs yet, but the 48* should be around 120-125 yards, the 52* around 115, and the 56* should be right at 100-105. I chose to go away from the 50/54/58 set-up I had in my Ping Glide wedges because of the gapping issue I had between my PW (44*) and the first Glide. I've mentioned previously my challenges with the short game around the greens and I really think these wedges are going to be a BIG help!

 

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This is a pic from my lesson 2 years ago December. The swing on the left is what I went in with, the pic on the right is what I came out with. Drastic difference after just ONE lesson!

 

Here are my "unboxing" pictures!

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Damn - these are sweet looking wedges.

I have always liked the Cleveland brand and the black satin looks great.

Good write-up PMookie

[Big Canoer]

Thanks! Here's a pic. Yes, the black finish is already starting to wear off of the exterior, but not the faces.

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Be sure to take pictures of the face wear over time. Since you are testing I am sure you will be getting lots of range time with these and perhaps over the next 2 months the wear will be telling.

[PMookie]

Be sure to take pictures of the face wear over time. Since you are testing I am sure you will be getting lots of range time with these and perhaps over the next 2 months the wear will be telling.

So far so good! There really isn't anywhere near the same amount of wear on the face as what shows on the sole.

 

 

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[PMookie]

Damn - these are sweet looking wedges.

I have always liked the Cleveland brand and the black satin looks great.

Good write-up PMookie

Thank you!!!

 

 

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