Kirkland Ball Test

[BIG STU]

Well you guys made it to the "Big Time". Several folks over on WRX have posted links to your Kirkland test. Just thought you guys would like to know

[fozcycle]

Yeah, I saw where they refer to MGS as that "other golf blog"

 

 

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[Golfspy_CG2]

Yeah, I saw where they refer to MGS as that "other golf blog"

 

 

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Sometimes I don't know if they are referring to MGS or THP when they say that.  Going by shear member numbers I think MGS would qualify as "the other" 

[null]

THP is a golf blog? I thought it was a third party marketing site?

[jayjay0808]

When they say other I think of "The Other Guys" Movie. I'd definitely take being the pairing of Will Ferrell and Mark Wahlberg

[JudgeSmails]

Well you guys made it to the "Big Time". Several folks over on WRX have posted links to your Kirkland test. Just thought you guys would like to know

you just admitted to reading wrx....for shame

 

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[MDGolfHacker]

I'll have to head over the Costco website and order a pack of these.  Have to try it myself and see if it fits my swing.

 

MDGolfHacker

[Hula Rock]

Peter Finch Mentions My Golf Spy tests on the Kirkland balls

 

https://youtu.be/TtrPz_BQ3tI?t=5m

[BIG STU]

you just admitted to reading wrx....for shame

 

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Oh yeah I am over there all the time on the Classics forum and The Clubhouse Grille section of the 19th hole. Same Name same Avaitar--- I do not venture into too many other sections over there too much BS--- But this was my second golf forum after I got kicked off of GEA for making a truthful comment about a golf course here seems the powers that be over there was buddies with the owner of said course

[SuperDave]

For anyone who may not know. I just checked Costco's website and they don't even have KSig's anymore. I'm guessing their done. Congrats to you guys who got your hands on some.

 

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[Hula Rock]

Rick Sheils Plugs My Golf Spy in his K-Sig Review......

 

 

[Kenny B]

I never thought to bite a golf ball.  Don't think I ever will either.

[BIG STU]

Yep and there are a couple of guys giving MGS hell again on WRX in the Kirkland forum. I stood up for us again by posing a question to one of the posters and have already got a couple of smarta$$ answers. Man we have caught more crap over there over the Kirkland issue than anything else. 

I am going back to the classic end and not going in the main forums anymore over there

[ole gray]

Yep and there are a couple of guys giving MGS hell again on WRX in the Kirkland forum. I stood up for us again by posing a question to one of the posters and have already got a couple of smarta$$ answers. Man we have caught more crap over there over the Kirkland issue than anything else. 

I am going back to the classic end and not going in the main forums anymore over there

 

 

Don't sweat the small stuff cuz.......    You have a good family here at MGS and all those other forums who are jealous need to get over it.....

[fozcycle]

It's a moot point as the Kirkland Sig is dead.

 

 

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[cksurfdude]

I never thought to bite a golf ball. Don't think I ever will either.

My dogs disagree with that statement

[Kenny B]

My dogs disagree with that statement

Yeah, and my dog really did eat my homework.  

[ole gray]

It's a moot point as the Kirkland Sig is dead.

 

 

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Just when a quality product at an affordable price comes around it suddenly disappears.....   Hmmmmm

[Kenny B]

Just when a quality product at an affordable price comes around it suddenly disappears.....   Hmmmmm

My thoughts exactly!!

[fozcycle]

Did the Titleist mafia strike them down?

 

 

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[djahubes]

My thoughts exactly!!

I'm not exactly sure Costco is out of the game. They are 15 on the Fortune 500 with almost unlimited purchasing power. It doesn't make sense for them to buy overruns knowing there is a finite supply and sell at cost. They are all about membership revenue not profits on goods. They could buy all the capacity at any ball manufacturer facility and no OEM could do anything about it. I'm not sold that Nassau wouldn't want to produce for one company with unlimited resources at max capacity.

 

 

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[Kenny B]

Did the Titleist mafia strike them down?

 

 

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I think it looks like that to some people.  Costco sells a ball for 3 times less than the ProV1.  MGS tests and reports that the Ksig ball is as good or better than the ProV1.  Costco sells out of the Ksigs.  On-air personalities supporting OEM ball manufacturers go berserk.  Costco isn't getting any more balls.  What kind of deal did Nassau make?  If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, ...

[PlaidJacket]

I'm not all that disappointed really. It was fun while it lasted. But, who's to say someone or some other company if not Costco will get hold of this deal and start producing this ball again. Perhaps with a new name? It's not that it can't be done. I've always thought why not WalMart? I'd play any high quality ball regardless whose name is on it. Sams - Members Mark? Walmart - Great Value? Target - Up and Up (kind of like that one) Costco - Signature? Who cares as long as the product is high quality and available.

 

Let's not forget the MG Golf Tour C4. It's a great urethane ball as well and only $20 dz. I like them.

[sixcat]

I'm not exactly sure Costco is out of the game. They are 15 on the Fortune 500 with almost unlimited purchasing power. It doesn't make sense for them to buy overruns knowing there is a finite supply and sell at cost. They are all about membership revenue not profits on goods. They could buy all the capacity at any ball manufacturer facility and no OEM could do anything about it. I'm not sold that Nassau wouldn't want to produce for one company with unlimited resources at max capacity.

 

 

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Playing devil's advocate, there are a number of mitigating factors a company such as Costco would need to address prior to taking on established companies.  Just a few that come to mind quickly............

• How would established OEM's push-back to a greater degree than they already have should Costco continue to thumb it's nose at the golf OEM establishment?  
• How would established OEM's punish a supplier such as Nassau as a result?  
• Do other Costco suppliers have a vested interest in the success those OEM's Costco would be in direct competition with?

 

Costco has gone through this in the past with tire companies, insurance agencies and travel agencies to name a few.  The end result was a partnership to sell OEM products at prices that meets the Costco business model thus, allowing other companies to continue to sell those same products at a significant mark-up.  

 

In my opinion, Costco will come out of this with contracts in hand to sell all sorts of TaylorMade, Titleist and other major OEM equipment.  This will benefit Costco as well as Costco's membership base furthering their reputation as a world class organization serving the best interests of their consumers.

[djahubes]

Playing devil's advocate, there are a number of mitigating factors a company such as Costco would need to address prior to taking on established companies. Just a few that come to mind quickly............

• How would established OEM's push-back to a greater degree than they already have should Costco continue to thumb it's nose at the golf OEM establishment?
• How would established OEM's punish a supplier such as Nassau as a result?
• Do other Costco suppliers have a vested interest in the success those OEM's Costco would be in direct competition with?

Costco has gone through this in the past with tire companies, insurance agencies and travel agencies to name a few. The end result was a partnership to sell OEM products at prices that meets the Costco business model thus, allowing other companies to continue to sell those same products at a significant mark-up.

 

In my opinion, Costco will come out of this with contracts in hand to sell all sorts of TaylorMade, Titleist and other major OEM equipment. This will benefit Costco as well as Costco's membership base furthering their reputation as a world class organization serving the best interests of their consumers.

Understand, my only point is that I don't think that Costco is going to be leveraged by anyone. If they decided that they want to sell golf balls they will. At $116B/year revenue, they dwarf the entire industry. Not saying they will, but they can.

 

 

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[sixcat]

Understand, my only point is that I don't think that Costco is going to be leveraged by anyone. If they decided that they want to sell golf balls they will. At $116B/year revenue, they dwarf the entire industry. Not saying they will, but they can.

 

 

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Sure they can but they will not jeopardize what made them a $116 billion company in order to sell golf balls.  

[djahubes]

Sure they can but they will not jeopardize what made them a $116 billion company in order to sell golf balls.

Not seeing how they would be jeopardized by buying capacity at a factory to produce a proven product.

 

 

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[PlaidJacket]

I don't think Costco made a couscous decision to "thumb their nose" at anyone. I just think they found or were presented with an opportunity to sell these balls for a while and ran with it. I don't believe Costco had an axe to grand with the golf industry.

[sixcat]

Not seeing how they would be jeopardized by buying capacity at a factory to produce a proven product.

 

 

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It depends on many, many other mitigating factors.  As I said earlier, do existing Costco suppliers have vested interests in major, established golf OEM's?  If they do, those OEM's could easily jeopardize many existing Costco products.  Costco isn't dealing with one or even two supply chains.  A company of that size is dealing with thousands on a daily basis.  It stands to reason several of those suppliers would also have relationships with companies that have a vested interest in Titleist or TaylorMade.  

 

The bottom line is a company like Costco isn't going to jeopardize 30 other established products in order to sell golf balls and likely wouldn't find it worthy of their time and considerable effort.  Especially when they can use the leverage they generated by establishing the ball they have sold for the past few months to get them a considerable inventory of OEM equipment to stock shelves with.

 

I don't know what Costco will ultimately do.  I just don't believe it's simply about selling golf balls for them either.  The Kirkland Signature brand has thousands of products.

[cnosil]

Not seeing how they would be jeopardized by buying capacity at a factory to produce a proven product.

 

Don't just think of Costco ; they are a bit player in this. If they did buy overruns they now need to acquire their own ball formulation to manufacturer. Since there are limited manufacturing plants that produce balls. The other manufacturers could put pressure on ball plants by stopping their production in those plants.

 

As a result Costco has considerable startup costs and would potentially be charged more per dozen since the plants would have less production due to other manufacturers pulling out.

 

Probably not going to be a $15 ball anymore and if you are paying equal prices people will go with brand name