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Phana24JG, on 08 August 2010 - 08:06 PM, said:

The only advantage I have found from weighted clubs/donuts is a big increase in my elbow tendonitis. They work great!!

lol

[EastTexas]

My final thoughts on this subject.

First of all – “Mr Fedora” – as I see it, you "were" rude. Supporting your bold “statement” by claiming a video/TV program as proof demonstrates a very narrow mind. Try thinking “outside the box” or whatever term you want to use for “unconventional thought”. When I first saw the show, I thought it was an infomercial! I found it interesting, but arbitrary. In other words, it failed to explore other uses of a weighted club. Also, I am a new member of MGS just trying to initiate some friendly discussion with some personal observations. My opinions meant nothing – it was the article by Jim McLean about one of golf’s greatest players, Vijay Singh ( winner of The Masters and 2 PGA Championships) that lent veracity to my post. I did not expect an encompassing comment such as “All lies” from one of this forum’s more prolific posters. Not very friendly. As to your thinking....”Don’t be so gullible McFly!”

For the unambiguous, cultivated “Mr Man”, ever hear of Charles Atlas? No? Yes? You somehow remind me of him (dynamic tension ring a bell?). So many questions and food for thought......where to begin? Should I tell you where I live so you can come down here and crush me? What the heck....I live in Athens – about 100 or so miles southeast of you. I hope you are enjoying life in Plano. By the way, Plano is not typical of Texas – the rest of us are married to our sisters and carry guns/beer wherever we go. Incidentally, thank you for your “brilliantly worded” compliment.....my editor would be pleased,.....I think?
Your statement....... “weighted clubs can be used for swing plane use as a drill as it is light when its on plane and heavy when its off. makes sense fine, but dont over do it thinking your gonna build muscles” is quite similar to my statement about my High School Golf Coach... “He claimed that it would help us to identify the point of highest efficiency in our swing....in other words – the groove”. I think we see eye-to-eye there. As for the rest of the problems you address – I, too, agree. That is my main objective I hope to gain. You might call it my goal.

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EastTexas, on 11 August 2010 - 02:05 PM, said:

For the unambiguous, cultivated “Mr Man”, ever hear of Charles Atlas? No? Yes?

Yes but your not going to kick sand in my face now are you?

EastTexas, on 11 August 2010 - 02:05 PM, said:

You somehow remind me of him (dynamic tension ring a bell?). So many questions and food for thought......where to begin?

I do have a personal Q & A thread located here if you have specific questions I will answer them all

http://forum.mygolfs...chael-manavian/

EastTexas, on 11 August 2010 - 02:05 PM, said:

Should I tell you where I live so you can come down here and crush me?

Only if you want to play golf sometime

EastTexas, on 11 August 2010 - 02:05 PM, said:

What the heck....I live in Athens – about 100 or so miles southeast of you. I hope you are enjoying life in Plano. By the way, Plano is not typical of Texas – the rest of us are married to our sisters and carry guns/beer wherever we go.

So you live in West Virginia? LOL

EastTexas, on 11 August 2010 - 02:05 PM, said:

Incidentally, thank you for your “brilliantly worded” compliment.....my editor would be pleased,.....I think?
Your statement....... “weighted clubs can be used for swing plane use as a drill as it is light when its on plane and heavy when its off. makes sense fine, but dont over do it thinking your gonna build muscles” is quite similar to my statement about my High School Golf Coach... “He claimed that it would help us to identify the point of highest efficiency in our swing....in other words – the groove”. I think we see eye-to-eye there. As for the rest of the problems you address – I, too, agree. That is my main objective I hope to gain. You might call it my goal.

Glad to find some common agreement - I always liked the word efficient as it relates to the golf swing. There is a most efficient way for everyone that is least taxing, least straining, and with the maximum energetic output possible.

Specific to weighted clubs I've noticed that well balanced weighted bars work better than head weighted clubs. The momemtus and that speed stick thingie vijay swings both fall into that category because their weight is evenly balanced across the length of the cylindrical tube. if the opposite were true, you would give a 5 year old a heavy adult club and say good luck kiddo. that heavy headed weight would start swinging HIM instead of him swinging it!

[harrison101]

If I do not have a chance to warm up on a driving range I will try and use some kind of a weighted donut. I do a couple of swings and until I feel warmed up.. Usually helps, not as good as hitting a few balls on the driving range but its a great alternative. I found a couple good ones on GolfClubs.com like the warm-up swing weight which is the most basic form of these donut contraptions.

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BalataMan, on 05 August 2010 - 02:17 PM, said:

I always used to warm up the weighted doughnut, but I can see if you used it a lot with your driver, that it might not be good for the shaft (added torque). I would not have an issue in using it on an iron. BTW, my site sells the Weighted Doughnut (under $10 shipped as well). I have not had a request for one of those in quite some time!

I have always been partial to the Assist for my warm up club.




I am sure you can find one on Amazon. I sell the Momentus as well, but I always preferred the Assist. Because of the weighted head and the way the shaft is bent, I think it helps a lot with wrist rotation (personal opinion).

Yep I like the ASSIST also, I use the shorter travel model to stay limber indoors during the winter and I have the longer version for the good weather what little we get in SE Washington. When swung smoothly they do help square the club face and release the club for me at least. I found great deals on them both on ebay/

[BIG STU]

I have read all the posts here on this subject so I am going to throw my hat in the ring. I can only say this works for me. I have always used weighted clubs to keep loose and to warm up with. I prefer to weight my own. i have an old Top-Flite driver with a steel shaft that I drilled the head on and added fishing weights and epoxy to. It is probably too heavy for some to swing but it fits me. I do not hit balls with it though. I also have a cavity back 5 iron that I have car weights epoxyed to the cavity I do not hit balls with it either. I also built a "speed stick" out of a fiberglass whipping post. I use these items to loosen up with at the range along with streaching exercises. I have a hard time staying as loose as I used to due to muscle structure and age. I absolutely have to streach and warm up. Good example last week we had one decent day. My friend called me ad told me he had made up a demo Wishon 919 driver and I had been dying to try one. I stopped by his place during the day to hit it. I only took 3 practice swings and hit about 10 balls bad deal. I ended up pulling my right lateral muscle fortuantly no damage. My take on all of this is to do what works for you. I do know as we get older is is more important to streach and warm up properly

[EastTexas]

Hello Big Stu!

After further reading, I learned that Ben Hogan did the same thing as you! Hard to argue with that.

East Texas

[TheHacker]

I have been swinging my DIY weighted club almost daily for a year. It's really my Lob Wedge with a sock tied to the club head. But I have come to the point where I think it's not going anywhere in increasing my clubhead speed.

After viewing the Sports Science video, I'm convinced enough that its time for a different approach. It makes perfect sense to me that being so used to heavy clubs, I tend to over-power the driver, and mis-time my swing, resulting in less than great drives.

From now onward, I'm going to swing something really light, like my son's driver. Let's see what happens in the weeks to come.

[BIG STU]

EastTexas, on 25 January 2011 - 11:20 PM, said:

Hello Big Stu!

After further reading, I learned that Ben Hogan did the same thing as you! Hard to argue with that.

East Texas

I did not know Mr Hogan did that. My dad taught me. As a big muscular guy that is getting older (54 now) I absolutely have to stay loose and warm up properly for me.My injury proved that. since healing up I have been careful to warm up and get loose before hitting balls and so far I have not reinjured myself. My build imagine a 6ft 2in Craig Stadler or big Andy Bean and that is my build in a nutshell

[Dave]

In order to properly warm up, I am a big advocate of lifting and emptying at least 2 pints before hittting the first tee.

[BIG STU]

Dave, on 27 March 2011 - 11:58 PM, said:

In order to properly warm up, I am a big advocate of lifting and emptying at least 2 pints before hittting the first tee.

RITFLMAO!! If I did that I would be hitting the first tee--- Face First