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Fitting Questions?????

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Posted 05 March 2010 - 01:47 AM

since I have been outed http://forum.mygolfs...o-for-a-living/
I thought I could try to answer any EASY fitting questions that are out there...
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Posted 05 March 2010 - 03:40 AM

What do you think is the optimal way to fit a golfer for their lie angles?




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Posted 05 March 2010 - 03:50 AM

How are places like Golf Galaxy and Dick's for getting fit? I'm assuming they are OK for beginners, but the better you get, you should be going somewhere else to be fit???

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Posted 05 March 2010 - 03:53 AM

View PostRichie3Jack, on 04 March 2010 - 07:40 PM, said:

What do you think is the optimal way to fit a golfer for their lie angles?




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Good question. At my facility, we fit outside on a driving range. I have used several methods, but the most reliable seems to be a combo of lie tape and flight. If I give my guy a club that he is marking on the heel, but the flight is spot on, then we go with it. I could care less if the mark is in the center of the club, if the shots are 30 yards offline. Isn't that the reason we fit??
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Posted 05 March 2010 - 05:37 AM

View Postmudfish, on 04 March 2010 - 07:50 PM, said:

How are places like Golf Galaxy and Dick's for getting fit? I'm assuming they are OK for beginners, but the better you get, you should be going somewhere else to be fit???

I know the local Dicks has a few fellas that used to work for us, and know their stuff. Unfortunately, there is no outdoor range, and the Big Box boys must rely totally on launch monitor data. And we all know that sometimes those things can be a little messed up. IMO, you are better of finding a local pro or shop that has a range and go get fit there.
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Posted 05 March 2010 - 11:29 AM

View PostRichie3Jack, on 04 March 2010 - 10:40 PM, said:

What do you think is the optimal way to fit a golfer for their lie angles?




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Lie boards?

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Posted 05 March 2010 - 03:43 PM

View Postjamo, on 05 March 2010 - 03:29 AM, said:

Lie boards?

Lie boards only tell you so much. You really need to see the ball fly
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Posted 06 March 2010 - 04:37 AM

If I were to go from using S300 shafts in my irons which weigh about 130 grams to KBS stiff which weighs about 120 grams, how many swingweight points would that effect?




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Author of Pro Golf Synopsis. The Moneyball approach to golf strategy and analysis.

Driver: Wishon 919THI, 10° loft, UST Mamiya VTS Red 7x, 44-3/8” long, 2,825 kg/cm^2 MOI
3-Wood: Wishon 949MC, 15° loft, UST Mamiya VTS Red 7x, 43” long, 2,805 kg/cm^2 MOI
Hybrid: Wishon 775HS, 18° loft, Wishon Gold Tour Hybrid Shaft. 40-3/4” long, 2,770 kg/cm^2 MOI
3-6 iron: Wishon 575MMC (CB)
7-PW: Wishon 575MMC (MB)
SW: Cleveland Golf Reg. 588 55° loft, 16° bounce, Tour Concept Wedge shaft, 2,725 kg/cm^2 MOI
LW: Edel Golf Digger Grind, 60° loft, 27° bounce, True Temper Dynamic Gold SL X100 shaft, 2,725 kg/cm^2 MOI
Grips: PURE Grips Pro (blue)
Putter: Edel Golf Columbia custom-made belly putter, 43" long, 3* loft
Ball: Titleist Pro V1x
Shoes: Foot Joy Dry-Joys, size 14.


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Posted 07 March 2010 - 12:04 AM

View PostRichie3Jack, on 05 March 2010 - 08:37 PM, said:

If I were to go from using S300 shafts in my irons which weigh about 130 grams to KBS stiff which weighs about 120 grams, how many swingweight points would that effect?




3JACK

If you use the same lengths and grips, the change will be between 1-2 swing weights.
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Posted 07 March 2010 - 01:18 AM

Sorry for the brief answer. Changing to a 10g lighter shaft with all other variables staying the same, will lighten the swingweight approx 1.5 points.
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Posted 07 March 2010 - 01:56 AM

Thanks, amigo.




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Author of Pro Golf Synopsis. The Moneyball approach to golf strategy and analysis.

Driver: Wishon 919THI, 10° loft, UST Mamiya VTS Red 7x, 44-3/8” long, 2,825 kg/cm^2 MOI
3-Wood: Wishon 949MC, 15° loft, UST Mamiya VTS Red 7x, 43” long, 2,805 kg/cm^2 MOI
Hybrid: Wishon 775HS, 18° loft, Wishon Gold Tour Hybrid Shaft. 40-3/4” long, 2,770 kg/cm^2 MOI
3-6 iron: Wishon 575MMC (CB)
7-PW: Wishon 575MMC (MB)
SW: Cleveland Golf Reg. 588 55° loft, 16° bounce, Tour Concept Wedge shaft, 2,725 kg/cm^2 MOI
LW: Edel Golf Digger Grind, 60° loft, 27° bounce, True Temper Dynamic Gold SL X100 shaft, 2,725 kg/cm^2 MOI
Grips: PURE Grips Pro (blue)
Putter: Edel Golf Columbia custom-made belly putter, 43" long, 3* loft
Ball: Titleist Pro V1x
Shoes: Foot Joy Dry-Joys, size 14.


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Posted 07 March 2010 - 02:35 AM

Glad I could help.
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Posted 11 March 2010 - 04:18 AM

So in my quest to make better contact, I seem to make better contact if I stand taller in my stance. However this brings the heel of the club up and while I feel compression, ball flight is very hooky. I am a classically untrained OTT swinger. Issues with rotation. bla bla bla. Standing taller makes me turn better, or so it seems. Looking at the club though, when I stand taller, I am not hitting the middle of the burners, more like the front 1/3. mat marks toward the toe.
I am thinking that maybe I need the Irons bent up a bit. Does this make sense. I remember that up or down promotes left or right, but I don't remember which. It also seems to be more of an issue with the burners than the MX200s but I am sure that is only because I don't own those yet...
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Posted 11 March 2010 - 04:54 AM

when you are hitting the face of the club on the toe, the ball should hook if you are releasing the club properly. Standing closer to the ball will encourage the sole of the club to contact the ground TOE first. This should cause the ball to go right. Bending the club upright will only exacerbate the hooking flight. It sounds like you are coming across the ball from out to in with a closed clubface, a recipe for the lefts. How tall are you?
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