[RookieBlue7]

RoverRick, on 05 March 2012 - 11:37 PM, said:

I believe the heated discussion you reference was the long putter, One of the things I am getting tomorrow is a new putter shaft. and grip, I am getting a shaft bent and going to make my Scotty Cameron a regular length putter. i will probably add an extension to it so I can stand straighter but still have a traditional putter. That will make it a very heavy head but I like that. I putted for years with a mid length Odyssey cut down to 33 inches. I went back to the short putter as my back would let me. I still have a belly putter that cut down and then made longer again. The shaft on the Scotty needs to be replaced anyway. I fixed it but it came loose again. So I decided to have another shaft bent and try that. While I still think that anyone who wants can use a long putter, I am not going to. I putt great with it but find that under pressure i putt better with the short putter. Yeah, that runs opposite of all of the arguements.

If it makes you feel any better, some of my best putting has been with a 405 gram (reweighted by me) SeeMore FGP at 34.25 inches. Maybe you should give the almost belly a shot? It's at 38 inches and you don't touch your belly, but it allows you to stand more erect. (Unless you're John Daly like in statue, and in that case, a 38" putter is too long to be a belly putter).

[RoverRick]

RookieBlue7, on 06 March 2012 - 11:22 PM, said:

If it makes you feel any better, some of my best putting has been with a 405 gram (reweighted by me) SeeMore FGP at 34.25 inches. Maybe you should give the almost belly a shot? It's at 38 inches and you don't touch your belly, but it allows you to stand more erect. (Unless you're John Daly like in statue, and in that case, a 38" putter is too long to be a belly putter).

Finally we have some adult supervision on the driver shaft issue and you are still going on about putter shafts.



New shaft in putter, new grip on, waiting for daylight, but I have to decide tonight on the driver shaft.

[RookieBlue7]

RoverRick, on 06 March 2012 - 06:44 PM, said:

Ok, I took my wife to Dallas, had lunch, left her at the mall and went to Edwin Watts. Unfortunately, Edwin Watts is now a discount furniture store and had the option of spending 25 minutes driving to a Golf Galaxy or going to the Golfsmiths next to the mall where my wife was, so I went to Golfsmiths.

They had a, yes A, Razr Fit Driver with a Rip's NV shaft. As I stated I do not do well on launch monitors inside a building. No matter how I try I can not stop worrying about hitting the ceiling or the wall. I have done both in the living room and my wife is not fond of it, I can assure you. Plus I try to get the numbers up and swing harder which brings the numbers down. Yesterday, I attached my Medicus Swing Speed Monitor to my driver when I got on the course and checked out every time when actually playing golf. I was 98 to 103 mph every time. Average speed was 101.2 mph. Average for 10 times I used the driver was 266.4 yards according to gps. That is total distance, do not know the carry and roll numbers. Hard to tell from the tee box.


Today on their launch monitor Here are the numbers These are the averages.
The first thing I noticed was that I did not finish my swings, near as high as on the course so I know the launch numbers are lower than normal, I guess because of the ceiling. I generally can hit the ball high or low, but never really hit it too high.

94 mph 139 Ball speed 11.3 Launch 3905 Back spin 4000 total spin 40* decent 210 carry 234 total and 29.5 Apex

I know just enough about this to be a menace to the golfing society but I think that my launch is low and spin too high.
I have a pretty smooth transition. usually coming to a stop before starting down. except for when I start the swing halfway through the backswing and jump in the air trying to kill the ball, but it does not matter about that because i may not even hit the ball,

I took these drivers with me.
I a 909D3 9.5* Motore F1 55 S with a bout 14 deg launch but 4500 rpms today.
I have a FT9 which is the one I used yesterday, with a UST Proforce V2 Stiff 67 grams that was giving me 3200 rpms on the launch monitor today


I did find a Nike VRs 9.5 and a Fubuki k series 70 and was getting spin rates around 2500 to 2600. and about 13 degrees launch. of course this is the futherest I hit the ball and had a little better club head speed.


All advise and opinions are now solicited. But I reserve the right to choose the one I want.

The magic numbers you're looking for at your swingspeed range is 13 degrees of launch and 2800 RPM's. That, according to physics calculations, should yield maximum carry and roll. That Rip'd NV is a proprietary shaft they make for Callaway (there's an aftermarket version, but the stocker in the Razr Fit is a watered down version). The real deal shaft is mid launch and mid spin. The proprietary version is mid-high launch and mid-high spin. You, IMO, would do better in something that's going to raise your launch (loft change, not spin) and use the shaft to bring it back down and cut spin off. I'd like to see you in something as follows on a monitor:

Callaway Razr Fit 11.5 degree head with one of the following 3 shafts: Diamana Whiteboard, Graphite Designs Tour AD DI, Mitsubishi-Rayon Fubuki Tour.

I honestly think that combination, among all that they offer (and I'm assuming is going to be available to you) would work out best to bring launch up while killing the spin a bunch and getting you more close to optimal.

[RoverRick]

RookieBlue7, on 06 March 2012 - 11:22 PM, said:

(Unless you're John Daly like in statue, and in that case, a 38" putter is too long to be a belly putter).

Before of after the tummy tuck. Because I am now. But I can bend over the putter and it does not touch. Close but not quite.

[RookieBlue7]

RoverRick, on 07 March 2012 - 12:31 AM, said:

Before of after the tummy tuck. Because I am now. But I can bend over the putter and it does not touch. Close but not quite.

Prior to the tummy tuck, he needed a 33" belly putter.

[GolfSpy Matt]

RoverRick, on 06 March 2012 - 07:08 PM, said:

It was a 9.5 and that is really all I know. I was fearful that someone would recommend this shaft. I am not sure I can do this shaft. It requires soul searching. You see, three of my regular group are Uof Texas Lawyers, colors are Orange and White, I am a Texas A&M Engineer the arch rivals. I am not sure it would be worth it to me to pull it out of the bag with them.

Rick, I'm sorry, but I'm afraid I can't help you anymore. I married a Texas girl with UT roots. Hook 'em Horns!

On a serious note, I haven't tried the Fubuki, but the AD DI could be worth the harassment if you need less spin. I'm not a hype guy and I wanted to dump on that shaft after seeing everyone one on every forum hyperventilating over it, but it's the business.

[RoverRick]

GolfSpy Matt, on 07 March 2012 - 10:20 AM, said:

Rick, I'm sorry, but I'm afraid I can't help you anymore. I married a Texas girl with UT roots. Hook 'em Horns!

On a serious note, I haven't tried the Fubuki, but the AD DI could be worth the harassment if you need less spin. I'm not a hype guy and I wanted to dump on that shaft after seeing everyone one on every forum hyperventilating over it, but it's the business.

I fear that the Fubuki not the Series K will spin too much. Also, I read your review and am concerned about the not loading the AD DI enough, but think the Ahina will be the best.

[GolfSpy T]

First...Love that this Congrats thread has grown into a community effort to help Rick get the best possible fit for his new driver.

I'll steer clear of making any recommendations myself. Worth checking out is Titleist's fitting guide. It's a great resource for shaft comparison as well as individual shaft characteristics. Obviously not a perfect 1 for 1 match with the RAZR Fit options, but worth a look.

http://media.titleis.../index.html#/1/

[RoverRick]

Thanks Matt, I have that chart saved as a favorite and use it all the time.



Thanks to all who have given your opinions. After much debate and soul searching, I have decided on a shaft and fired off the email so I can not undo it. I will let you know how it turns out.

[JBones]

Thanks for that link, T. It's a big help for me as well. I like that Titleist also compares their "made for" shafts on there as well.

[wdgolf]

That link is really helpful. Thanks.

[RoverRick]

Well, I have sent the email and the Options were

Tour AD DI 6

Fubuki K not really an option since Callaway does not show it

Ahina


So I decided to go with the AD DI, high launch, low spin.

[swampertwo]

Congrats Rick, an enviable reward!

[GolfSpy Matt]

I think you'll be very happy with the performance of the AD DI. One thought I had about the AD DI and "smoothing" out the feel was to add some weight to the head. Not sure if Callaway will make heavier weights available to us mere mortals, but this could be one solution.

[JohnBarry]

I think the Hammer with their special shaft would be a perfect fit Rick...BOOOOOM!!!