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One round changed my mental approach Has this ever happened to you?
#1
Posted 16 March 2012 - 10:24 PM
I found that this run of birdies totally changed the way I looked at the round. Usually if I get a good score going, I start thinking about "protecting" it and getting into the clubhouse. Now, as the round winds down, I'm sad that I have fewer chances to make birdies. I'm not suggesting that my course management has become more aggressive (or changed at all), it's just a different way of thinking about what can happen on a hole. I can tell you that it's a much more enjoyable mindset.
Has anyone else had one round or one experience that really changed the way they looked at the game?
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#2
Posted 17 March 2012 - 01:59 AM
I would like to start putting myself in a position to be able to see making birdies and knowing that I can "fix" my round still.
#3
Posted 17 March 2012 - 03:35 AM
Last year I played in several tournaments, and actually won my flight of the club championship, I realized that the key is not to focus on the score but to focus on make each shot the best that you can. You will not alway hit it, but if you make the next one good you can still play a good round.
Today was the first round of out annual St, Paddy's Day Weekend Golf. I had decided that I was going to be the best player today. We play a point system, 4 for eagle, 3 for birdie, 2 for par, 1 bogey, 0 for anything over. And we establish a quota for everyone to achieve. The big winner today turned out to be a 20 year old who has been in the Army for two years and not played golf we figured he would do well to get 10 points and he got 16 on the last 8 holes. I got 32 and lost, but I still played great. I parred 1 and 2, birdied 3 and 4, eagled 5 and was on the tee box of 6 when one of my partners said, "you realize that the odds of you even making a point on this hole are astronomical after two birdies and an eagle. I thought, "astronomical my @$$, take this mother....." and blasted it right down the middle, 300+ with a 20 mph wind behind me and was 60 yards out thinkiing how I showed him when I chilli dipped it, and I will not say what I thought when I put my third shot in the water and ended up with a double bogey. I still shot 34 on the front and but ended up bogeying the last 6 holes. (Might have been alcohol related) but hole 6 was a total mental error,
But to me the secret of scoring well is not making birdies. Birdies and eagles happen after you have had a good drive and good approach shot. They do not happen on the tee box or in the fairway. Get on the green before you start thinking about birdie. Yeah, you have to be near the flag but if you are not on or at least near the green then think about par. And leave with at least a bogey. To me the secret is making pars and not making double bogies. For every double bogey you make you have to have two good holes to make it up, With a bogey at least you can make it up on the next hole.
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#4
Posted 17 March 2012 - 07:26 AM
Played a week without a driver and teed off with a 4 iron. Broke 90 that week like 3 times.
Then the driver came back and guess what? I'm shooting high scores again
So I realized, it's not about distance... it's all about consistency and keeping the ball in play. I never realized that all those OB's off the tee were costing me at least 5 strokes per round.
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#5
Posted 17 March 2012 - 03:09 PM
Conversely, miss a few putts early, and it is real easy to think things are going against you. I have to make a real mental effort not to get down on myself when I miss putts or three-putt a green early in the round. Hitting good drives or irons shots won't usually set expectations for me, but putting sure can set the tone for the rest of the round.
#6
Posted 17 March 2012 - 11:59 PM
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#7
Posted 18 March 2012 - 03:23 AM
I figure out that I got into the mind set of "if i could par out then i shot 68." Looking back at it now after researching and reading on the mental game of golf that i got into a FUTURE state of mind instead of the CURRENT task at hand. I also have come to know in my person game that I tend to be judgmental of myself during a round when things are going poorly even if it is not my fault.
You just have to keep a positive outlook and keep your mind free of PAST thoughts and FUTURE thoughts during a round. Stay in the PRESENT time with the single shot you have, I have always played my best golf when i have no clue what my score is my mind set is only one shot at a time.
Here is a blog that I came across in my research on the mental game in trying to improve my own mental outlook from a negative one to a more positive peaceful one.
There is a lot of good information on that site, I suggest reading and processing the articles and consider some of the other materials that they offer. I haven't bought anything from them or have any stock in them, jus think it is good information to have.
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#8
Posted 18 March 2012 - 08:59 AM
When I go play with my wife, sometimes I can shoot 10 over.
When I play the tournament, usually end up 20 over.
Being calm and chill really makes a huge difference (except that I make stupid bets with my wife every time we play
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#9
Posted 18 March 2012 - 12:02 PM
Ignore the scorecard, and treat every hole as a par 5.
18 holes at par 5 is 90. Mentally, it relieves the pressure on the 3's and 4's. If you can take advantage of just one of those 14 holes, and Par, the remaining 5's... poof! you've shot an 89.
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#10
Posted 18 March 2012 - 12:55 PM
Trebuchet, on 18 March 2012 - 08:02 AM, said:
Ignore the scorecard, and treat every hole as a par 5.
18 holes at par 5 is 90. Mentally, it relieves the pressure on the 3's and 4's. If you can take advantage of just one of those 14 holes, and Par, the remaining 5's... poof! you've shot an 89.
I like that!
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#11
Posted 18 March 2012 - 01:12 PM
I think this year I need to really remember what I am doing out there on the course. In the past 2 years I have just been out there having fun, now it's time to actually start getting better at the game. I can't wait until the weather breaks and I can get out again...
#12
Posted 19 March 2012 - 12:53 AM
stevenhw8, on 18 March 2012 - 04:59 AM, said:
When I go play with my wife, sometimes I can shoot 10 over.
When I play the tournament, usually end up 20 over.
Being calm and chill really makes a huge difference (except that I make stupid bets with my wife every time we play
LOL sometimes that is not a mental issue more an issue with lack in practicing tournament conditions. Some things that happen a lot in a casual round that won't happen in a tournament. I am not by any means saying you are one of these people.
--> no 'gimme putts' you have to hole out every hole
--> play the ball as it lies, sorry no preferred lies in fairways, rough, etc.
--> The maximum number of strokes is normally more then people are used to playing (I play tournaments with max of Double par + 1 stroke)
As the old saying goes 'practice like you would play' in other sports. Those things really would add probably an average of 10 strokes to a lot of peoples games. The presure of not normally having to execute that shot will add a mental block.
From a mental stand point 'practice like you play'. If all casual rounds are played under tournament rules, then the situation comes up during a tournament it becomes more routine making it easier to remain confident and calm in the situation. I think this is where the saying 'there is golf and then there is tournament golf' might have come from. People are supper relaxed and say things like 'what do you want to take' in a tournament you don't get to pick your score you earn it
If you can stay in a relaxed mental state that a tournament is 'just another round' assuming you practice like you play makes it a lot easier.
"Competitive golf is played mainly on a five-and-a-half-inch course... the space between your ears." ~ Bobby Jones
The Genius of Bruce Rearick (bargolf):
1. Great putters play to their tendencies and work with them
2. It isn't the method, it is the application of the method. Memorize the sequence of motion with clubs that fit the method.
Driver ~ Adams Speedline Fast 12 LS 9.3* w/ RT Technologies Zeus (75g) Stiff (Plays to an X-Stiff)
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#13
Posted 19 March 2012 - 08:23 AM
My wife and I are always betting and are extremely competitive, so we don't allow gimmes nor better lies.
We don't have the double par + 1 rule, but in Germany we compete mostly with Stableford. I personally like to keep my own stroke play score.
But you are right, the key issue during tournament play is "pressure" to improve your handicap. During casual rounds I just don't care if my HCP is adjusted up/down, I just want to win the bet. But during tournaments, my main focus is lowering my HCP and I start counting how many strokes left, how many strokes needed, etc etc etc and it totally kills the roll.
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#14
Posted 19 March 2012 - 01:02 PM
What I listed all assist in lowering a handicap and are the most common reasons why someone might bloat up to 10 more strokes in their club championship. Another one is to turn in a score card that was played as match play representing it as stroke play. For example if you lie 5 in the fairway and your opponent is 3 feet of a birdie then you would probably concede the hole and write down 5 instead of a 6 or 7 that it probably would have taken you to get into the cup. But yes the tournament ads additional pressure to play well I agree, however when you play more stroke play like a tournament then it is a little less pressure on you.
LOL, I am exactly like you when I play for bets it is most of the time I bet with match play an $ amount per number of holes at the end of the round. So $5 a hole at 4 up you win $20 after 18. Then I just don't turn my score card in for handicap reasons.
The proper strategy in Match Play will depend on what your opponent is doing and where you stand in the match more then par. So what is good for you to do in match play is normally not a great thing in stroke play. I have seen some tournaments where they had a match play match and a stoke play match going at one time (you were competing in a field for stroke play, but against one person in a match play match during the same round). That gets a little confusing and I normally default to just playing stoke play and hoping the match play gets strong along behind.
Sorry that spun slightly off topic between mental game in general and tournament play mental game and different strategy in golf. From a mental perspective I just saying it helps to 'practice like you play in a tournament'.
Sorry please continue the topic on a given round clicking for each person.
"Competitive golf is played mainly on a five-and-a-half-inch course... the space between your ears." ~ Bobby Jones
The Genius of Bruce Rearick (bargolf):
1. Great putters play to their tendencies and work with them
2. It isn't the method, it is the application of the method. Memorize the sequence of motion with clubs that fit the method.
Driver ~ Adams Speedline Fast 12 LS 9.3* w/ RT Technologies Zeus (75g) Stiff (Plays to an X-Stiff)
Fairway ~ Tour Edge Exotics CB3 Tour 16.5* w/ RT Technologies Zeus (85g) Stiff (Tipped to an X-Stiff)
Hybrid ~ Tour Edge Exotics CB2 19.0* w/ RT Technologies Midas (88g) X-Stiff
Irons ~ Wilson Staff FG62 w/ KBS Tour X-Stiff (4i), KBS C-Taper (5 thru PW) X-Stiff (PW Tipped 1/4")
Wedges ~ Mizuno MP T-11 Black Nickle (52-07, 56-10, 60-05) w/ KBS Tour Wedge X-Stiff @ 35.25"
Putter ~ Scotty Cameron Newport 2 (Carbon, 332g + 8g tip weight + 6g rubber tungsten square weights, 346g roughly) -> 33", 69* lie, Lamkin Crossline Paddle Standard
Grips ~ Lamkin Crossline Full Cord M58
#15
Posted 19 March 2012 - 01:12 PM
But with other playing partners, we do stroke and match play combined ($5 per stroke, $5 per hole)
In such cases, it's hard to have a set strategy, because both scores count towards $$$ so I just go all-in, which isn't the smartest plan. But the more thinking I do, the more distracted I get and the less golf I play.
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Sold my hybrid... who needs a hybrid anyway?
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