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Hey guys I am looking to change my set and have been looking at getting a titleist SM4 to replace a set PW. My question is it OK to get a 48/10 and have the loft adjusted to 46. I know it will is exact difference between loft and bounce, but the wedges they sell are 46/08 anyway. So is there any difference?
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wedge question loft/bounce adjustment
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Posted 24 June 2012 - 09:48 PM
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Titleist Vokey SM4 46 degree w/ DG Spinner
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Posted 25 June 2012 - 02:28 AM
I've had 2 degree loft adjustments done before and haven't had problems. FYI, if you're dealing with an authorized dealer, they should be able to order you a 46/8 easily.
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Posted 25 June 2012 - 12:13 PM
When you adjust the loft you adjust the bounce. So if you buy and 48/10 and have it bent to 46 you will have something pretty close to a 46/8 anyway - I'd ask that they grind it off a bit. By the way it goes the other way if you have it bent open - if you went to 49 you'd add bounce.
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Posted 29 June 2012 - 02:37 PM
I really don't like closing my wedges. I'm ok with opening them, but I really don't do that much either. I am very particular about the bounce and the sole grinds of my wedges. I buy them to be the way I want them. Closing them down for me is the worst thing you can do to a wedge, it just begs me to stick that leading edge under the grass and into the turf.
My advice would be to buy specifically what you want even if you have to order it, wait, and pay a bit more before buying a new one and having it closed.
My advice would be to buy specifically what you want even if you have to order it, wait, and pay a bit more before buying a new one and having it closed.
Play it Down, Putt it Out!
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Posted 29 June 2012 - 04:42 PM
I follow Tyk's train of thought....I'll adjust my irons, no problems, however I really don't like doing it with the wedges unless I absolutely cannot buy/order the desired spec'd wedge....
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Seriously, think about the above quote. 80% of the people that I meet in a day have "quit," and they're just goin through the motions, waitin for their heart to stop beating. It's sad!
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"Sometimes I am selfish, inpatient and a little insecure. I make mistakes, I am occasionally out of control and at times, difficult to deal with. But, if you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best!"
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Posted 29 June 2012 - 04:43 PM
So sorry...I'm not gettin better at this, I'm gettin worse.....
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TMaG RBZ Tour Spoon(Breast Cancer Fill) 13*, RT Tech Midas S(88gr)
Adams Idea XTD Super Hybrid 19*, Fubuki AX 350
Mizzy MP-68(4i-PW),TT DG TI S400, +1/2" & +2*
Mizzy MP-T11 52*(DG Spinner,W+ Flex),56*(DG SP, W),60*(DG SP, W), +1/2"
Scotty Select Newport Notchback, 42" 370gr HW (Custom Breast Cancer Fill)
Golf Pride Decade Multi-Compound Cord, Mizzy Blue/Black
Bridgestone Tour B330-S
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"Getting beat is temporary.
Giving up?
That's permanent."
-Marilyn von Savant
Seriously, think about the above quote. 80% of the people that I meet in a day have "quit," and they're just goin through the motions, waitin for their heart to stop beating. It's sad!
-RP II
________________________
"Sometimes I am selfish, inpatient and a little insecure. I make mistakes, I am occasionally out of control and at times, difficult to deal with. But, if you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best!"
-Marilyn Monroe
________________________
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Ping i20(Breast Cancer Fill) 10.5*, Graphite Design Tour AD 9003 S(74gr)
TMaG RBZ Tour Spoon(Breast Cancer Fill) 13*, RT Tech Midas S(88gr)
Adams Idea XTD Super Hybrid 19*, Fubuki AX 350
Mizzy MP-68(4i-PW),TT DG TI S400, +1/2" & +2*
Mizzy MP-T11 52*(DG Spinner,W+ Flex),56*(DG SP, W),60*(DG SP, W), +1/2"
Scotty Select Newport Notchback, 42" 370gr HW (Custom Breast Cancer Fill)
Golf Pride Decade Multi-Compound Cord, Mizzy Blue/Black
Bridgestone Tour B330-S
Shoes: A bunch, depends on my slacks, lol
________________________
"Getting beat is temporary.
Giving up?
That's permanent."
-Marilyn von Savant
Seriously, think about the above quote. 80% of the people that I meet in a day have "quit," and they're just goin through the motions, waitin for their heart to stop beating. It's sad!
-RP II
________________________
"Sometimes I am selfish, inpatient and a little insecure. I make mistakes, I am occasionally out of control and at times, difficult to deal with. But, if you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best!"
-Marilyn Monroe
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Posted 29 June 2012 - 04:56 PM
Sorry, triple post on my phone..Jesus, I didn't realize that it was posting, was trying to delete....
Fairways & Greens 4ever......
Fairways & Greens 4ever......
What's Inside My Sun Mountain H2N0 Stand Bag:
********************************************************
Ping i20(Breast Cancer Fill) 10.5*, Graphite Design Tour AD 9003 S(74gr)
TMaG RBZ Tour Spoon(Breast Cancer Fill) 13*, RT Tech Midas S(88gr)
Adams Idea XTD Super Hybrid 19*, Fubuki AX 350
Mizzy MP-68(4i-PW),TT DG TI S400, +1/2" & +2*
Mizzy MP-T11 52*(DG Spinner,W+ Flex),56*(DG SP, W),60*(DG SP, W), +1/2"
Scotty Select Newport Notchback, 42" 370gr HW (Custom Breast Cancer Fill)
Golf Pride Decade Multi-Compound Cord, Mizzy Blue/Black
Bridgestone Tour B330-S
Shoes: A bunch, depends on my slacks, lol
________________________
"Getting beat is temporary.
Giving up?
That's permanent."
-Marilyn von Savant
Seriously, think about the above quote. 80% of the people that I meet in a day have "quit," and they're just goin through the motions, waitin for their heart to stop beating. It's sad!
-RP II
________________________
"Sometimes I am selfish, inpatient and a little insecure. I make mistakes, I am occasionally out of control and at times, difficult to deal with. But, if you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best!"
-Marilyn Monroe
________________________
********************************************************
Ping i20(Breast Cancer Fill) 10.5*, Graphite Design Tour AD 9003 S(74gr)
TMaG RBZ Tour Spoon(Breast Cancer Fill) 13*, RT Tech Midas S(88gr)
Adams Idea XTD Super Hybrid 19*, Fubuki AX 350
Mizzy MP-68(4i-PW),TT DG TI S400, +1/2" & +2*
Mizzy MP-T11 52*(DG Spinner,W+ Flex),56*(DG SP, W),60*(DG SP, W), +1/2"
Scotty Select Newport Notchback, 42" 370gr HW (Custom Breast Cancer Fill)
Golf Pride Decade Multi-Compound Cord, Mizzy Blue/Black
Bridgestone Tour B330-S
Shoes: A bunch, depends on my slacks, lol
________________________
"Getting beat is temporary.
Giving up?
That's permanent."
-Marilyn von Savant
Seriously, think about the above quote. 80% of the people that I meet in a day have "quit," and they're just goin through the motions, waitin for their heart to stop beating. It's sad!
-RP II
________________________
"Sometimes I am selfish, inpatient and a little insecure. I make mistakes, I am occasionally out of control and at times, difficult to deal with. But, if you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best!"
-Marilyn Monroe
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Posted 29 June 2012 - 05:25 PM
skihippy, on 24 June 2012 - 05:48 PM, said:
Hey guys I am looking to change my set and have been looking at getting a titleist SM4 to replace a set PW. My question is it OK to get a 48/10 and have the loft adjusted to 46. I know it will is exact difference between loft and bounce, but the wedges they sell are 46/08 anyway. So is there any difference?
48 degree's are just a lot easier to find!!!
48 degree's are just a lot easier to find!!!
Vokey makes a 46.08 wedge now in the SM4 it is listed on their website, you might have to special order it but it's available. http://www.titleist....milled-sm4.aspx
Just the FYI however if you were to get a 48.10 or 48.06 at the bottom of this document it has the bending allowances for different finishes --> http://media.titleis...11_Fall_SM4.pdf
Loft is +/- 1* on Black Nickle and Tour Chrome... The Oil can is +/- 2* in the SM4 model
If you do bend a iron or wedge strong it will reduce the bounce roughly by the same amount... So 48.10 in Oil Can bent to 46* will have roughly 08* of bounce, opposite would be true for making a club play weaker 46.06 into a 48* would turn into a 48.08 roughly
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The Genius of Bruce Rearick (bargolf):
1. Great putters play to their tendencies and work with them
2. It isn't the method, it is the application of the method. Memorize the sequence of motion with clubs that fit the method.
Driver ~ Adams Speedline Fast 12 LS 9.3* w/ RT Technologies Zeus (75g) Stiff (Plays to an X-Stiff)
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Hybrid ~ Tour Edge Exotics CB2 19.0* w/ RT Technologies Midas (88g) X-Stiff
Irons ~ Wilson Staff FG62 w/ KBS Tour X-Stiff (4i), KBS C-Taper (5 thru PW) X-Stiff (PW Tipped 1/4")
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Putter ~ Scotty Cameron Newport 2 (Carbon, 332g + 8g tip weight + 6g rubber tungsten square weights, 346g roughly) -> 33", 69* lie, Lamkin Crossline Paddle Standard
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Posted 30 June 2012 - 05:23 PM
Didn't I just say that?
I am with everyone in regards to not liking to close a wedge - I closed my 6 iron 2 degrees and my 7 1 for distance gap purposes but that's way different than a wedge.
I just was responding to the original post and wanted Skipphy to be aware that there are side effects to opening and closing wedges.
I view this sight as a crucial place for finding out about those side effects and a variety of other things that momma never told us about.
I am with everyone in regards to not liking to close a wedge - I closed my 6 iron 2 degrees and my 7 1 for distance gap purposes but that's way different than a wedge.
I just was responding to the original post and wanted Skipphy to be aware that there are side effects to opening and closing wedges.
I view this sight as a crucial place for finding out about those side effects and a variety of other things that momma never told us about.
Driver TMag R11s 9.0 Aldila Beta R flex
3 Wood Adams F11 3w, 5w Excaliber R flex
Hybrid Adams a12 Pro Aldila RIP R
Irons Mizuno 800 Pros Aerotech steel fiber 95's
Wedges Scor 55,60 KBS Genius 12's
Putter Never Comprimise Vodoo Daddy
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3 Wood Adams F11 3w, 5w Excaliber R flex
Hybrid Adams a12 Pro Aldila RIP R
Irons Mizuno 800 Pros Aerotech steel fiber 95's
Wedges Scor 55,60 KBS Genius 12's
Putter Never Comprimise Vodoo Daddy
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Posted 30 June 2012 - 06:46 PM
Thanks guys, I just bit the bullet and ordered the 46.08 SM4 from Golfdiscount.com, the discount we get from this sight really helped out.
Whats in the bag:
Titleist 910D2 10.5 Graphite Design Y7-S
Adams 1600 proto 14.5 Graphite Design AD DJ
Titleist 910F 17 Ust Tour Black
Titleist 910H 22 Diamana Kali
Adams Idea Pro A12 4-9 KBS C Taper
Titleist Vokey SM4 46 degree w/ DG Spinner
Mizuno MP R12 50-54-58 DG spinner
[i]Ping Redwood ZB
Ball Nike 20XI-X
Titleist 910D2 10.5 Graphite Design Y7-S
Adams 1600 proto 14.5 Graphite Design AD DJ
Titleist 910F 17 Ust Tour Black
Titleist 910H 22 Diamana Kali
Adams Idea Pro A12 4-9 KBS C Taper
Titleist Vokey SM4 46 degree w/ DG Spinner
Mizuno MP R12 50-54-58 DG spinner
[i]Ping Redwood ZB
Ball Nike 20XI-X
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Posted 30 June 2012 - 07:38 PM
cool
Driver TMag R11s 9.0 Aldila Beta R flex
3 Wood Adams F11 3w, 5w Excaliber R flex
Hybrid Adams a12 Pro Aldila RIP R
Irons Mizuno 800 Pros Aerotech steel fiber 95's
Wedges Scor 55,60 KBS Genius 12's
Putter Never Comprimise Vodoo Daddy
Ball Bridgestone RX Taylor Made Penta tp5
Shoes Truelinks Tour, Adidas adicross
Bag Nike Cart
3 Wood Adams F11 3w, 5w Excaliber R flex
Hybrid Adams a12 Pro Aldila RIP R
Irons Mizuno 800 Pros Aerotech steel fiber 95's
Wedges Scor 55,60 KBS Genius 12's
Putter Never Comprimise Vodoo Daddy
Ball Bridgestone RX Taylor Made Penta tp5
Shoes Truelinks Tour, Adidas adicross
Bag Nike Cart
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