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Lie angle.... ....how important is it?
#1
Posted 04 July 2012 - 12:40 AM
I almost bought a set of irons today only to realize the lie angle had been adjusted 2˚ upright. I've read internet wisdom about why it matters, but I was wondering if it really matters as much as some say. I did some quick math and in order to keep the club flat I would only have move the ball 1 inch closer in my stance, or of course just play with the toe 1/8" off the turf.
Anyway...maybe it does matter...I don't know....so I guess I'm just looking for some insight.
Thanks,
BK
Anyway...maybe it does matter...I don't know....so I guess I'm just looking for some insight.
Thanks,
BK
Titleist 913 D3 Driver 10.5˚ RIP Alpha
Titleist 910F 17˚ 4 Wood BLACK OPS Shaft
Titleist 910H 20˚, 24˚, 27˚ Hybrid Proforce V2 Shafts
Titleist 695CB 6-8; KBS Tour Shafts
SCOR Wedges 41˚,46˚,50˚,54˚,58˚ DG Spinner Shafts
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#2
Posted 04 July 2012 - 01:48 AM
Or just have them bent to fit you upon getting them. That's usually the easiest way. Most places tell you you can't bend more than 2 degrees and that's a myth, you can go much further if you're careful and take your time. Forged will go more than cast naturally. Scratch has bent one of their forged wedges 50 degrees in each direction with no breakage and no stress, for 100 degrees of adjustment total. Other forged clubs have been bent that much as well. The stores usually just tell you 2 degrees because even the most incompetent person can bend a club 2 degrees without damaging it.
In The Bag:
Driver: TaylorMade Superfast 2.0 version 2 LCG w/ Grafalloy BiMatrix Tour Proto X-flex
3+ wood: 13* Nike SQ w/ Aldila NV 85X tipped to spec
5 wood: 18* Nike SQ2 Monorail w/ Talamonti PD80 Tour X tipped to spec
4 Hybrid: 4/21 TaylorMade Rescue11 set to neutral w/ Talamonti H100 X tipped to spec
5-PW Adams A4 Tour Black w/ Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400 hardstepped once, bent to trad. lofts
GW: 51 degree Ping Eye2 BeCu w/ TiSandvick Titanium Stepless X flex
SW: 56 degree Scratch Tour Dept 1018 w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner (CC grooves)
LW: 60 degree Scratch Tour Dept. 1018 w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner (CC grooves)
XW: 64 degree Callaway V-Forged Vintage w/ Dynamic Gold X100 Tiger Stepped (CC grooves off tour van)
Putter: Right now? Scotty Cameron Newport Beach 2 Prototype Centershaft 33.75" w/ Super Stroke USA Ryder Cup Slim
Have a ton of back-up putters and always play with 14 clubs, above are what's in the rotation. And yes, I'm a club *****.
Driver: TaylorMade Superfast 2.0 version 2 LCG w/ Grafalloy BiMatrix Tour Proto X-flex
3+ wood: 13* Nike SQ w/ Aldila NV 85X tipped to spec
5 wood: 18* Nike SQ2 Monorail w/ Talamonti PD80 Tour X tipped to spec
4 Hybrid: 4/21 TaylorMade Rescue11 set to neutral w/ Talamonti H100 X tipped to spec
5-PW Adams A4 Tour Black w/ Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400 hardstepped once, bent to trad. lofts
GW: 51 degree Ping Eye2 BeCu w/ TiSandvick Titanium Stepless X flex
SW: 56 degree Scratch Tour Dept 1018 w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner (CC grooves)
LW: 60 degree Scratch Tour Dept. 1018 w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner (CC grooves)
XW: 64 degree Callaway V-Forged Vintage w/ Dynamic Gold X100 Tiger Stepped (CC grooves off tour van)
Putter: Right now? Scotty Cameron Newport Beach 2 Prototype Centershaft 33.75" w/ Super Stroke USA Ryder Cup Slim
Have a ton of back-up putters and always play with 14 clubs, above are what's in the rotation. And yes, I'm a club *****.
#3
Posted 04 July 2012 - 02:42 AM
It's important - just follow Rookie's advice and get it bent to fit you - simple adjustment - you should get the lie of your clubs checked at least annually.
Driver TMag R11s 9.0 Aldila Beta R flex
3 Wood Adams F11 3w, 5w Excaliber R flex
Hybrid Adams a12 Pro Aldila RIP R
Irons Mizuno 800 Pros Aerotech steel fiber 95's
Wedges Scor 55,60 KBS Genius 12's
Putter Never Comprimise Vodoo Daddy
Ball Bridgestone RX Taylor Made Penta tp5
Shoes Truelinks Tour, Adidas adicross
Bag Nike Cart
3 Wood Adams F11 3w, 5w Excaliber R flex
Hybrid Adams a12 Pro Aldila RIP R
Irons Mizuno 800 Pros Aerotech steel fiber 95's
Wedges Scor 55,60 KBS Genius 12's
Putter Never Comprimise Vodoo Daddy
Ball Bridgestone RX Taylor Made Penta tp5
Shoes Truelinks Tour, Adidas adicross
Bag Nike Cart
#4
Posted 05 July 2012 - 01:25 PM
yup RB7 has some good words on this one first thing that I do with a set of irons even out of a box is put them on a lie/loft machine and adjust as needed. I had my 6iron 1* weak in my W/S FG62 set of irons I have now, not sure how the heck that happened but it did. I trust nothing that OEM and people send me so at the very least I'll verify the specifications are correct.
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." ~ Albert Einstein
"Competitive golf is played mainly on a five-and-a-half-inch course... the space between your ears." ~ Bobby Jones
The Genius of Bruce Rearick (bargolf):
1. Great putters play to their tendencies and work with them
2. It isn't the method, it is the application of the method. Memorize the sequence of motion with clubs that fit the method.
Driver ~ Adams Speedline Fast 12 LS 9.3* w/ RT Technologies Zeus (75g) Stiff (Plays to an X-Stiff)
Fairway ~ Tour Edge Exotics CB3 Tour 16.5* w/ RT Technologies Zeus (85g) Stiff (Tipped to an X-Stiff)
Hybrid ~ Tour Edge Exotics CB2 19.0* w/ RT Technologies Midas (88g) X-Stiff
Irons ~ Wilson Staff FG62 w/ KBS Tour X-Stiff (4i), KBS C-Taper (5 thru PW) X-Stiff (PW Tipped 1/4")
Wedges ~ Mizuno MP T-11 Black Nickle (52-07, 56-10, 60-05) w/ KBS Tour Wedge X-Stiff @ 35.25"
Putter ~ Scotty Cameron Newport 2 (Carbon, 332g + 8g tip weight + 6g rubber tungsten square weights, 346g roughly) -> 33", 69* lie, Lamkin Crossline Paddle Standard
Grips ~ Lamkin Crossline Full Cord M58
"Competitive golf is played mainly on a five-and-a-half-inch course... the space between your ears." ~ Bobby Jones
The Genius of Bruce Rearick (bargolf):
1. Great putters play to their tendencies and work with them
2. It isn't the method, it is the application of the method. Memorize the sequence of motion with clubs that fit the method.
Driver ~ Adams Speedline Fast 12 LS 9.3* w/ RT Technologies Zeus (75g) Stiff (Plays to an X-Stiff)
Fairway ~ Tour Edge Exotics CB3 Tour 16.5* w/ RT Technologies Zeus (85g) Stiff (Tipped to an X-Stiff)
Hybrid ~ Tour Edge Exotics CB2 19.0* w/ RT Technologies Midas (88g) X-Stiff
Irons ~ Wilson Staff FG62 w/ KBS Tour X-Stiff (4i), KBS C-Taper (5 thru PW) X-Stiff (PW Tipped 1/4")
Wedges ~ Mizuno MP T-11 Black Nickle (52-07, 56-10, 60-05) w/ KBS Tour Wedge X-Stiff @ 35.25"
Putter ~ Scotty Cameron Newport 2 (Carbon, 332g + 8g tip weight + 6g rubber tungsten square weights, 346g roughly) -> 33", 69* lie, Lamkin Crossline Paddle Standard
Grips ~ Lamkin Crossline Full Cord M58
#5
Posted 05 July 2012 - 01:43 PM
The ones I got are standard...hopefully they will be close. The nearest place that has a bending machine is nearly 2 hours from me over by Minneapolis. I'll take them next time I'm out that way....but it could be a while. I'll check them with an angle finder in the mean-time (seems crude, I know, but you can get pretty close if you use one right).
Titleist 913 D3 Driver 10.5˚ RIP Alpha
Titleist 910F 17˚ 4 Wood BLACK OPS Shaft
Titleist 910H 20˚, 24˚, 27˚ Hybrid Proforce V2 Shafts
Titleist 695CB 6-8; KBS Tour Shafts
SCOR Wedges 41˚,46˚,50˚,54˚,58˚ DG Spinner Shafts
Older than dirt blade putter
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