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Are Adjustable Drivers Worth It/

#1 User is offline   mad4golf 

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 03:36 PM

hell all,i`ve come into some money and have been toying with the idea of getting a newish driver, my question is do i go adjustable or not for us mere mortals would they make so much difference?I have played this game for 35 years and back in the days of persimmon you had to add lead tape to help you fade or draw the ball,i`ve had a play with an R9 when they came out looked cool and the thought of opening or closing the head felt wrong.I play to a handicap of 9 so i feel i have a good knowledge of the game and swing and adjusting characteristics of clubs,would like your feedback.My options are fully adjustable weight only adjustable or normal driver no adjust ability at all?

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 04:03 PM

I like adjustability for a couple reasons:

1) It gives you the ability to tune the fit more precisely, and get the ball flight that you want.

2) For me, the ability to swap shafts quickly and easily is invaluable. Obviously this might not be as useful to someone who doesn't test equipment on a daily basis, but it's fun to be able to tinker without potentially losing a great combo.

To my mind, unless you really love one of the non-adjustable drivers out there (Ping G20 is a great one, for example), there's no reason not to get something adjustable. I'm not suggesting that you will or should play with the settings regularly, but why not take the option if it's available?
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Posted 18 August 2012 - 04:40 PM

I have my first ever adjustable driver and love it - it's a nice safety net. Also because I'm a lower handicapper who needs a higher loft driver it affords me the opportunity to have a neutral club face - many 10.5 lofts and higher are closed a couple of degrees.

I like the options that are available to me. It's like the old lead tape without having to use the lead tape.
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Posted 18 August 2012 - 05:04 PM

Better fitting capabilities, alone, should be one major reason one looks at and potentially chooses an adjustable model.
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Posted 18 August 2012 - 05:43 PM

First, M4G, welcome to the forum...Hope ya enjoy it...A lot of good guys....It's hard to argue with the points made on this page...All are valid and if there is any chance that you would want to make any adjustments, then the adjustable driver is the way to go...

I currently have the RBZ Tour in my bag and though I'vè never "adjusted" it, As Matt said, I like to be able to swap shafts out of it depending on my ball flight needs...

My #2 driver in my rotation is the i20, which I think is the best "one-piece" driver out there if you're looking for a lower spin, lower launch club...Phenomenal......My third driver is the Callaway Diablo Octane Tour....

Though I'm playing an adjustable, I'm partial to the one-piece......


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Ping i20(Breast Cancer Fill) 10.5*, Graphite Design Tour AD 9003 S(74gr)
TMaG RBZ Tour Spoon(Breast Cancer Fill) 13*, RT Tech Midas S(88gr)
Adams Idea XTD Super Hybrid 19*, Fubuki AX 350
Mizzy MP-68(4i-PW),TT DG TI S400, +1/2" & +2*
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Posted 18 August 2012 - 07:03 PM

I agree that the ability to change shafts easily is enough to make the adjustable well worth the money. Plus, I personally like an open face on my drivers. About the only way to get that on most drivers now is with the open face. Tweeking to fit you is also nice. I have my Razr Fit set up with a fade biased head angle and a draw biased weight system, This thing goes very straight.
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Posted 18 August 2012 - 07:33 PM

Im partial to one-piece drivers, mainly because my current Hcp. which is about 9-10 right now. My driver swing isnt perfect, and i was thinking about getting an adjustable driver so i can fix my slice. But my Pro came out and told me, at my skill level by getting an adjustable driver you would just masking the problem only creating a short term fix.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 08:50 PM

msp1404, on 18 August 2012 - 02:33 PM, said:

Im partial to one-piece drivers, mainly because my current Hcp. which is about 9-10 right now. My driver swing isnt perfect, and i was thinking about getting an adjustable driver so i can fix my slice. But my Pro came out and told me, at my skill level by getting an adjustable driver you would just masking the problem only creating a short term fix.

It's good to see a pro not treating symptoms and it's better to see a student listening and not taking the easy way out...As Ben was so fond of saying, you've got to dig it outa the dirt.....

You'll get there.....


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What's Inside My Sun Mountain H2N0 Stand Bag:
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Ping i20(Breast Cancer Fill) 10.5*, Graphite Design Tour AD 9003 S(74gr)
TMaG RBZ Tour Spoon(Breast Cancer Fill) 13*, RT Tech Midas S(88gr)
Adams Idea XTD Super Hybrid 19*, Fubuki AX 350
Mizzy MP-68(4i-PW),TT DG TI S400, +1/2" & +2*
Mizzy MP-T11 52*(DG Spinner,W+ Flex),56*(DG SP, W),60*(DG SP, W), +1/2"
Scotty Select Newport Notchback, 42" 370gr HW (Custom Breast Cancer Fill)
Golf Pride Decade Multi-Compound Cord, Mizzy Blue/Black
Bridgestone Tour B330-S
Shoes: A bunch, depends on my slacks, lol

________________________

"Getting beat is temporary.

Giving up?

That's permanent."

-Marilyn von Savant

Seriously, think about the above quote. 80% of the people that I meet in a day have "quit," and they're just goin through the motions, waitin for their heart to stop beating. It's sad!

-RP II
________________________

"Sometimes I am selfish, inpatient and a little insecure. I make mistakes, I am occasionally out of control and at times, difficult to deal with. But, if you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best!"

-Marilyn Monroe
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Posted 18 August 2012 - 09:30 PM

Yes, because of the shaft swapping. I like to try out myriad shafts and 1-screw vs heat-and-pull is just waaaaay to convenient to ignore.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 04:01 AM

I'll chime in. I like the ability to adjust on the fly when fitting someone, or swapping shafts. However, the idea that I might need to take a perfectly fitted driver and "mess with it" is a little warped. I currently play R9 Superdeep with Fubuki 63 set to neutral face angle and weighting. It is perfect for me. I can remember one day when I was swinging poorly, and was tempted to "adjust" the driver to cover my swing flaws. Big Mistake. I had absolutely zero confidence in the club at this point. I set it back to my normal settings, and dealt with it, and have not touched it since.

I also like it for traveling. Just pop the head off, and the most expensive club in the bag is safe.
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Posted 19 August 2012 - 07:11 AM

I have a Taylormade Superdeep and - like others have stated - I enjoy the flexibility of being able to try different shafts as opposed to switching entire drivers. I think the first key is to find the head that suits you. Then, once you determine the shaft characteristics that best fit your swing type, try to decide whether you'll be happier with a higher end shaft or a comparable one at a lower price point. If you consistently go with shafts that cost as much as a new club, you could consider just sticking with one-piece drivers since your spending would possibly end up being at the same level in the long run.
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Posted 19 August 2012 - 07:28 AM

Well thats awesome just what i needed thanks for all the feedback guys after much thought i`m going to trial one of each for the weekend,i feel that looks play a big part in buying a driver as if it looks good your half way there,after the next weekend will let you know my decision and i`ll add some photo`s too.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 03:04 PM

nicsherman, on 18 August 2012 - 11:01 PM, said:



I also like it for traveling. Just pop the head off, and the most expensive club in the bag is safe.



Travel with my clubs often and have never thought of doing that. Brilliant!!!

My 2 cents - fiddled with my driver settings for months - hours of range time, even worked with my pro to find the right settings...turns out factory neutral was best for me. That said, if I had the $$ I'd love to experiment with different shafts.

Seriously considering the next driver to be a custom fit/custom built machine from a local club-fitter. He's a Miura-Alpha fitter/builder. Hope my employer is generous with bonuses this year...
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Hybrids: Cleveland Mashie M3, M4, Talamonti H-100 shafts, stiff
Hogan Edge 17*, Excaliber HY shaft, stiff
Weszty FSF 19*, 23*, Penley Driving Iron shafts, stiff
Irons: Mizuno MP-59 5-PW, PX 5.5 shafts
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Posted 19 August 2012 - 03:23 PM

barbajo, on 19 August 2012 - 10:04 AM, said:

Seriously considering the next driver to be a custom fit/custom built machine from a local club-fitter. He's a Miura-Alpha fitter/builder. Hope my employer is generous with bonuses this year...

Ya know, I think that this is what I need!...These off the shelf drivers, even with aftermarket shafts are still off the shelf drivers with aftermarket shafts!.....

Maybe my quest for THAT ONE special driver is indeed a custom one.....I'm calling the guy tomorrow...He handles Miura and a few other Japanese lines, though the whole reason that I've avoided him is that I know when I see the Miuras or Epons, I'm gonna have all of the self discipline of a street wh*re at a Las Vega business convention.....

Oh well, I haven't given myself a bonus in two years....


Fairways & Greens 4ever.......
What's Inside My Sun Mountain H2N0 Stand Bag:
********************************************************

Ping i20(Breast Cancer Fill) 10.5*, Graphite Design Tour AD 9003 S(74gr)
TMaG RBZ Tour Spoon(Breast Cancer Fill) 13*, RT Tech Midas S(88gr)
Adams Idea XTD Super Hybrid 19*, Fubuki AX 350
Mizzy MP-68(4i-PW),TT DG TI S400, +1/2" & +2*
Mizzy MP-T11 52*(DG Spinner,W+ Flex),56*(DG SP, W),60*(DG SP, W), +1/2"
Scotty Select Newport Notchback, 42" 370gr HW (Custom Breast Cancer Fill)
Golf Pride Decade Multi-Compound Cord, Mizzy Blue/Black
Bridgestone Tour B330-S
Shoes: A bunch, depends on my slacks, lol

________________________

"Getting beat is temporary.

Giving up?

That's permanent."

-Marilyn von Savant

Seriously, think about the above quote. 80% of the people that I meet in a day have "quit," and they're just goin through the motions, waitin for their heart to stop beating. It's sad!

-RP II
________________________

"Sometimes I am selfish, inpatient and a little insecure. I make mistakes, I am occasionally out of control and at times, difficult to deal with. But, if you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best!"

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 01:11 AM

R.P. Jacobs II, on 19 August 2012 - 10:23 AM, said:

Ya know, I think that this is what I need!...These off the shelf drivers, even with aftermarket shafts are still off the shelf drivers with aftermarket shafts!.....





My Callaway Razr Fit with the Talamonti PD80 shaft is better and more consistant right now than my driver swing.:P

But I have a plan to make my driver swing as consistant as my irons. Hopefully, I can do that tomorrow.
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In my Titleist Golf Bag Red Ferrules And Red Grips
Driver: TaylorMade R9 Superdeep 10.5* w/Adilila RIP a 70

Fairway Metal:
Titleist 909F2 15.5* w/Graphite Design Tour ADDI 7
Hybrid: Adams Idea Pro Black 18* & 23* w/KBS Tour Black Nickel XS
Irons
: Mizuno MP33 5-PW Gun Blue w/KBS Tour Black Nickel XS
Wedge: Mizuno MP T11 52 & 56* Gun Blue w/True Temper Spinner Shaft
Wedge: Titleist Vokey Spin Mill Gun Blue 64* w/KBS Wedge XS
Putter
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Titleist Scotty Cameron Classics Coronado 36"

White and Chrome Set
In my Titleist
Golf Bag Golf Pride Tour Wraps
White Grips
Driver: TaylorMade R11 10.5* (Cancer Awareness) w/Talamonti PD80
Fairway Metal: TaylorMade R11 14 w/Fujikura Motore F1 75
Irons
: Mizuno MP FLI HI 2-3 w/KBS Tour S
Irons: Mizuno MP59 4- PW w/KBS Tour S
Wedges: Scratch 53* & 58* w/KBS Wedge XS
Putter
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Titleist Scotty Cameron Newport 1.5 36"

Ball
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Titleist Pro V1x or Taylormade Penta TP5
Shoes
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Ashworth Cardiff
or Ecco Golf Street Shoes

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