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Poll: Time for a coup d'etat? (27 member(s) have cast votes)

Keep it or Ban it?

  1. Keep it. (14 votes [51.85%])

    Percentage of vote: 51.85%

  2. Ban it. (11 votes [40.74%])

    Percentage of vote: 40.74%

  3. Allow it for some and ban for others. (2 votes [7.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.41%

USGA Membership

  1. Yes (7 votes [25.93%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.93%

  2. No (17 votes [62.96%])

    Percentage of vote: 62.96%

  3. I have been in the past but will not renew. (3 votes [11.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.11%

One or two sets of rules?

  1. One set, I like to play by the same rules. (19 votes [73.08%])

    Percentage of vote: 73.08%

  2. Two sets, one for pros and one for mere mortals. (7 votes [26.92%])

    Percentage of vote: 26.92%

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#31 RoverRick

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 01:35 AM

I felt the groove were a good rule change once i looked at the research and numbers. i feel this is a GREAT rule change honestly, but again I have spent the time to understand at the basic level different style of strokes. It is simple, when something can provide a more stable platform to "swing" a club, sort of like building a stance in a way then it shouldn't be legal in the first place.


I don't have any beef with the USGA and R&A at all on either rule I think both needed to be made. You should get reworded for hitting into the rough, and you shouldn't get reworded for having a single pivot point putting stroke. Golf as in life you get more rewording outcomes from hard work then you would being lazy and looking for hand outs. Just get fit and practice you have until 2016.



In spite of the fact that you think we are lazy and looking for handouts and have not taken the time to be as enlightened as you, you are still entitle to your opinion, and I will not comment on those insinuations.

The issue here to me is that for 30 years this has been used. Over half of the respondents to this poll have said it should allowed at some level. The USGA and R&A could not posslibly careless about what golfers want. The fact that they made this decission and stated that there was no emphical evidence that it is better but they just do not like the looks.

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#32 whiskey golf

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 02:17 AM

Regardless of the technicality of the strokes between anchored and conventional putters, you can still screw up either way under pressure. I think they both have their strengths and weaknesses so in my opinion, both should be allowed equally.

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#33 JMiller

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 01:50 PM

In spite of the fact that you think we are lazy and looking for handouts and have not taken the time to be as enlightened as you, you are still entitle to your opinion, and I will not comment on those insinuations.

It was a general statement about people in general in the USA, is that everyone no. Don't take things I write personally as that's not what they were intended to be. It was more about don't make emotional arguments that have no logic and stop bitching just practice.

The issue here to me is that for 30 years this has been used. Over half of the respondents to this poll have said it should allowed at some level. The USGA and R&A could not possibility careless about what golfers want. The fact that they made this decision and stated that there was no emphical evidence that it is better but they just do not like the looks.


This poll proves NOTHING you have a total of 25 votes for Ban it (12 votes), Keep it (11 votes), Allow it for some (2 votes) the sample size out of the millions of golfers would be less then 1% of the population.

This poll proves nothing, you have a TOTAL of 25 votes for keep it (12 votes), Ban it (11 votes), Split rules (2 votes). I assume world wide we are talking about an estimated number of golfers to be 50 to 60 million people. Lets assume it is 50 million this sample of "what golfers want" is 0.00005% of the total population (25/50,000,000 * 100). People in stats would laugh at you if you tried to give them this size of a sample to prove something. It is more of an entertainment value then real proof.

I would have to assume someone in the USGA / Players Committee is 1/2 way smart and did their homework on the single pivot stroke compared to a 3 to 5 pivot point stroke before making a rule cahnge. The USGA has openly said they are still taking suggestions from "players" for awhile.


I was at a JR tournament around here where I think it was about 1 in 25 in that field had a anchored putter we are talking an IJGA event here future college players and maybe some tour pros. I also have the position of where I get to play golf with 100s of people in a year, playing 4 to 5 times a week as a single on a popular public golf course where I am a member I get to see what is in the bag for still a small population of golfers. I would guess that about 1 out of 50 people I have been randomly paired with use an anchored style putter.

I feel this rule effects less people then what the authors of golf magazines really want to admit to, they are in the business to sell stories (like any news station) and like to stir the pot as much as possible making it bigger then it really is. I read crap like oh everyone that is an AM uses a belly / broom stick single pivot point stroke, it's wrong.

Sorry if i offended anyone with my lazy comments it was more a statement in general and not a personal attack on anyone individual. Why do you think fast food places, junk food are so popular in the states? People are just impatient in general here we want things to happen NOW because our lives are so "busy". Whatever the case it was more about the sociology of the people in the states in general, that's not everyone by any means just a large population a majority probably.

EDIT: I wanted to toss this up as well from Bruce the putting Guru >> http://www.bargolfin...chored-and.html

It is pretty clear an anchored stroke provides a more stable relationship then non-anchored. I personally have always felt like I was cheating my way to lower scores using an anchor but that's just me and my opinion.

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#34 RoverRick

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 05:23 AM

One of my good friends that I play with every week has worn the same cap since I met him. It is last years Olympic hat. We generally are not allowed on the same team since we are the best two golfers, but we were on Saturday and Sunday of last week. Saturday he wore his Olympic hat and we talked about this ruling and my disdain for the USGA and Sunday he showed up in a brand new Titleist cap.

I shot a 73 and he said that from now on he will bring both. If he in my partner, he wears Titleist, if not, he is wearing the USGA cap. :lol:

I pointed out it was the swing changes, longer shafts, and finally the proper clubs that really did the trick but he said we will find out next week if he has to breakout the USGA cap.:D

I shot a 72 today with no caps but was also by myself. Played 18 holes and had 14 two putt pars, two birds and two bogeys.

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#35 RoverRick

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 04:35 AM

I just got a letter from my club.and effective March 1st they are converting to the USGA - GHIN system. This means that we are going to have to pay $15. I generally do not have a problem with the money, lord knows I spent more than that at the bar Thursday after I closed my tab, but it is where the money goes to. I am afraid that I am going to have to opt out of my club handicap because I am protesting any of my money going to the USGA. I will point this out to them tomorrow.

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:taylormade-small: SLDR 10.5* on Paderson Kinetexx IMRT R

:titelist-small:  913F 15* on Aldila Voodoo SNV6 S

:ping-small:  I20  17* on Talimonti PD80

:mizuno-small:  MP FLI HI 2-3-4 on Тrue Temper Dynamic Gold

:mizuno-small: MP53 5 on Тrue Temper Dynamic Gold

:mizuno-small: MP68 6-9 on Тrue Temper Dynamic Gold

ScфrGolf   48, 53, & 59 on True Temper Dynamic Gold Wedge

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#36 BK in TEXAS

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 04:39 AM

I am afraid that I am going to have to opt out of my club handicap because I am protesting any of my money going to the USGA.

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