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The original Big Bertha was my first "nice" club, I loved that thing. They need to make sure they replicate the sound though, I loved that metallic 'tink' on a well struck ball.

Driver: :taylormade-small: SLDR w/ Fujikura Ventus Black

3w: :taylormade-small:'16 M2 hl w/ Diamana D+ 82

5w: :cleveland-small: Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Yellow

Hybrid: :cleveland-small: 22 deg. Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Black

Irons: :cleveland-small: 5i - gap Launcher CBX w/ Nippon Modus 3 125

Wedges: :cleveland-small: 54 CBX & 58 Zipcore w/ Nippon Modus 3 125

Putter: :odyssey-small: Red 7s

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Driver:   :taylormade-small: M3 Tensei CK Pro Blue
3-Metal:: :callaway-small: GBB EPIC, FujiKura Pro Green

5-Metal:  :cobra-small: F-7, FujiKura Pro

Irons:   :mizuno-small: MP-18 SC, KBS Tour 120

Wedges:  :cleveland-small:   RTX-3  52 - 56 - 60
Putter:  EVN-Roll ER-5

Ball :  :bridgestone-small: Tour B XS

Range Finder:  Busnnell Tour-X,  Garmin S20 

 

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So Adams brings back the Tight Lies...

then Callaway brings back the Big Bertha...

does that mean TM is going to bring back the Burner w/ Bubble Shaft technology?

Sweet baby Jesus please make it so! :D

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I would rather see Taylormade bring back the FlexTwist black and purple. Now those were awesome clubs. I played a 2 wood of that a couple years ago and it was still awesome.

Driver:         Taylormade SIM 8^  Shaft: Evolution III 6X

3 Wood:      Titleist  TSi3 13.5^   Shaft:  Project X Smoke Black RDX 6.5

2 Hybrid:     Callaway Mavrik Pro  Shaft: Project X EvenFlow Black 85X

3/5 Hybrid: Titleist 816 H2            Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana Whiteboard 85X

Irons:           Taylormade P790      Shaft: UST Recoil 110 S (6-PW)

50 Degree: Taylormade P770       Shaft: UST Recoil 110 S

55/60:        Cleveland RTX Zipcore    Shaft: DG Spinner Tour Issue

Putter:        Bettinardi MK Armlock

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So Adams brings back the Tight Lies...

then Callaway brings back the Big Bertha...

does that mean TM is going to bring back the Burner w/ Bubble Shaft technology?

Sweet baby Jesus please make it so! :D

 

I can see it now, TMaG brings back the bubble in burnt orange. Everyone yells they are just copying Acer even though they did it 15 years earlier.

Driver: :taylormade-small: SLDR w/ Fujikura Ventus Black

3w: :taylormade-small:'16 M2 hl w/ Diamana D+ 82

5w: :cleveland-small: Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Yellow

Hybrid: :cleveland-small: 22 deg. Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Black

Irons: :cleveland-small: 5i - gap Launcher CBX w/ Nippon Modus 3 125

Wedges: :cleveland-small: 54 CBX & 58 Zipcore w/ Nippon Modus 3 125

Putter: :odyssey-small: Red 7s

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Oh it's coming..... Big Bertha will be here soon. Driver B I think they call it now while some of the guys are testing it.

The Bag:

Right handed

Cobra King FLYZ+ 10.5* w/ Aldila Rogue 125 R 44.5"

Tour Issued TM M2 10.5 w/ Mitsubishi Tensi CK Pro Blue 60S

Tour Issued TM M2 15* w/ GD Tour AD 7S 43"

TM R7 17.5 HFS w/ Tour AD 7S Stiff 42"

Cobra S3 Pro's 4-pw w/ Aldila RIP Tours SLT 115 Reg. 5i 38.5"

Titleist Vokey Proto's

52*,54*,58* all TTDG S-400

TM TP5 X

Scotty Cameron SSS Tiffany 009 350 34.5" or Bettinardi BB1 DASS Proto

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I just saw the Bertha drivers and they are both amazing. Great look and a really cool technology piece in the alpha driver. Also saw the full X2 Hot line up and the Apex Pro irons, all look great. My rep left me a few of the Apex Pro irons to take down to the range later for a comparison to my current irons.

Ping G410 Plus Oban Kiyoshi Tour Limited
Ping G410 LST 3 Wood Oban Tour Prototype V430
Titleist U500 3 & 4 Oban Kiyoshi Purple Tour Reserve
Titleist 620 MB 5-9 Oban CT 125
Titleist Vokey 47* Oban CT 125, 51*, 55*, and 59* Shimada Tour Wedge Black
Bettinardi Studio Stock SS28

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I just saw the Bertha drivers and they are both amazing. Great look and a really cool technology piece in the alpha driver. Also saw the full X2 Hot line up and the Apex Pro irons, all look great. My rep left me a few of the Apex Pro irons to take down to the range later for a comparison to my current irons.

Well what are you waiting for?! Get down there and let us know what you think! Haha!

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I hit Both new drivers today. All I can say is WOW. I will be playing one of these this year. Without a doubt, the BEST driver that Callaway has made in years.

Driver - Ping G430 Max 9° | Ventus Blue TR 
Hybrid - :srixon-small: ZX 16° & 18° | GD Tour IZ S

2 Iron - :srixon-small: ZU65 17° | AeroTech SteelFiber 110icw S

Irons -  :srixon-small: ZX7 MKII  4-Pw | TTDGTI S400, std length  1° flat
Wedges - :cleveland-small: RTX 6 Tour Rack 50° 54° 58° | TTDGTI S400, std length 1° flat

Putter -  L.A.B. Golf Link.1 | LA Golf P135 shaft | Garsen Quad Tour grip
 

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The port is more to the center of the club, this allows for the weight to be placed low and forward when the weight is dropped low. It' closer to where the g in Legacy is.

Ping G410 Plus Oban Kiyoshi Tour Limited
Ping G410 LST 3 Wood Oban Tour Prototype V430
Titleist U500 3 & 4 Oban Kiyoshi Purple Tour Reserve
Titleist 620 MB 5-9 Oban CT 125
Titleist Vokey 47* Oban CT 125, 51*, 55*, and 59* Shimada Tour Wedge Black
Bettinardi Studio Stock SS28

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As long as they are using enough loft, I think it can be beneficial, by reducing spin, it can also reduce the amount the ball will curve, so it can help hit straighter shots. The key is to adjust loft to make sure the launch angle stays in the optimal window. The hardest part of selling these new low and forward CG drivers is going to be convincing people to trust a higher loft, and that distance through the air is easier to gain versus distance on the ground.

Ping G410 Plus Oban Kiyoshi Tour Limited
Ping G410 LST 3 Wood Oban Tour Prototype V430
Titleist U500 3 & 4 Oban Kiyoshi Purple Tour Reserve
Titleist 620 MB 5-9 Oban CT 125
Titleist Vokey 47* Oban CT 125, 51*, 55*, and 59* Shimada Tour Wedge Black
Bettinardi Studio Stock SS28

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As long as they are using enough loft, I think it can be beneficial, by reducing spin, it can also reduce the amount the ball will curve, so it can help hit straighter shots. The key is to adjust loft to make sure the launch angle stays in the optimal window. The hardest part of selling these new low and forward CG drivers is going to be convincing people to trust a higher loft, and that distance through the air is easier to gain versus distance on the ground.

I've heard by other manufactures that low and forward is less forgiving on off center strikes and decreases MOI. Perfect for pros and accomplished am's but terrible for chops like me. Any insight?

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I've heard by other manufactures that low and forward is less forgiving on off center strikes and decreases MOI. Perfect for pros and accomplished am's but terrible for chops like me. Any insight?

I think that there is some trade off in forgiveness, I think the actual difference may be a bit over stated. Just the head sizes alone are going to provide stability. Low and deep will always maximize the MOI, but other face curvature can be altered to a certain extent to help increase gear effect.

 

Taylor Made moved the weight forward and low in the JetSpeed line which is intended for the average player. I also believe that the Covert line has dine it as well, even if not intentionally, but the CG has to be more forward since the "back" of the club is toward the face due to the cavity.

 

With that being said, I do feel that moving the CG forward does allow for a club to be tailored towards a more consistent ball striker through other design features more easily than a deeper CG driver.

Ping G410 Plus Oban Kiyoshi Tour Limited
Ping G410 LST 3 Wood Oban Tour Prototype V430
Titleist U500 3 & 4 Oban Kiyoshi Purple Tour Reserve
Titleist 620 MB 5-9 Oban CT 125
Titleist Vokey 47* Oban CT 125, 51*, 55*, and 59* Shimada Tour Wedge Black
Bettinardi Studio Stock SS28

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Thanx a lot for answering!

 

HaHa, I was trying to ask the question without using the word "chop," or "suck," LMAO.

 

Yea, I can see the loft being an issue, and the numbers that they throw around are "80% of amateurs are playing a loft that is too low for their swing."

 

Do you find this to be the case with the amateurs that you see and/or work with?

 

 

Fairways & Greens My Friend,

Richard

 

I find that a lot of people that I work with have a misconception that by getting the ball to roll, they will increase total distance. The launch monitor helps show that carry is the key to maximizing distance, but until they actually get out on the course and see the difference that increased carry can provide, especially when the course is wet and roll isn't a factor, it doesn't really sink in. It's mostly players who have been playing for a while and/or players who never hit it all that long to begin with that want to get more roll. Combine that with them seeing how much the ball runs out on PGA Tour coverage, they feel that this is the way that they want to play. I try and explain that the fairways that those guys play on are like the greens that mere mortals get to see every round, but it doesn't always get through.

 

I think the 80% number may be a bit high, but there are definitely a lot of players that would benfit from higher lofted drivers.

Ping G410 Plus Oban Kiyoshi Tour Limited
Ping G410 LST 3 Wood Oban Tour Prototype V430
Titleist U500 3 & 4 Oban Kiyoshi Purple Tour Reserve
Titleist 620 MB 5-9 Oban CT 125
Titleist Vokey 47* Oban CT 125, 51*, 55*, and 59* Shimada Tour Wedge Black
Bettinardi Studio Stock SS28

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I've heard by other manufactures that low and forward is less forgiving on off center strikes and decreases MOI. Perfect for pros and accomplished am's but terrible for chops like me. Any insight?

Don't worry about it. The MOI is high enough that you won't notice. There is a very definite difference between higher MOI, and being able to notice a difference in higher MOI. Diminishing returns and all. The engineer for Nike now gave me about a 4 hour dissetation on MOI and design when he was at Cleveland, and had come up with the HiBore XL. I'll see if I can dig up his notes.

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Don't worry about it. The MOI is high enough that you won't notice. There is a very definite difference between higher MOI, and being able to notice a difference in higher MOI. Diminishing returns and all. The engineer for Nike now gave me about a 4 hour dissetation on MOI and design when he was at Cleveland, and had come up with the HiBore XL. I'll see if I can dig up his notes.

 

 

did he talk about why forward cg helps the better player?  seems like the covert is just an exaggerated hibore flipped upside down to create a more traditional address appearance

 

i wonder what his thoughts on cg distance in relation to the shaft?  this is what leads to bigger heads wanting to over rotate thru the ball, which leads to left shots (for a rightie)

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Don't worry about it. The MOI is high enough that you won't notice. There is a very definite difference between higher MOI, and being able to notice a difference in higher MOI. Diminishing returns and all. The engineer for Nike now gave me about a 4 hour dissetation on MOI and design when he was at Cleveland, and had come up with the HiBore XL. I'll see if I can dig up his notes.

 

Such a true story. We've seen other OEMs talk about SLDR and it's super-low MOI, and then you look at how the charts are scaled and you realize...yup, you lose a handful of yards on mishits (charts make it look like 30, when it's closer to 5), but when you nut it, you pick up 15... I don't think most will have an issue with that.

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Anything else to reveal about it other than the alpha has the flipper weight to change spin rates by raising/lowering cog?

In The Bag
Driver: TaylorMade M2 (2017) w/ Project X T1100 HZRDUS Handcrafted 65x 
Strong 3 wood: Taylormade M1 15* w/ ProjectX T1100 HZRDUS handcrafted 75x
3 Hybrid: Adams PRO 18* w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
4 Hybrid: Adams PRO 20* (bent to 21*) w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
4-AW: TaylorMade P770 w/ Dynamic Gold Tour Issue Black Onyx S400

SW: 56* Scratch Tour Dept(CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner
LW: 60* Scratch Tour Department (CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner
XW: 64* Cally XForged Vintage w/ DG X100 8 iron tiger stepped
Putter: Nike Method Prototype 006 at 34"

Have a ton of back-ups in all categories, but there are always 14 clubs in the bag that differ depending on the course and set-up. Bomb and gouge. Yes, I'm a club gigolo.

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Looks like it should have "Warbird Sole" written on it.

:ping-small:G430LST 10.5° on     T P T    POWER 18 Hi Driver 

:ping-small:G430MAX 3w  on     T P T    POWER 18 Hi Fairway 

:ping-small:G425 3H on     T P T    POWER 18 Hi Hybrid 

:taylormade-small:P790 Black 4-A 
on :kbs: TGI 80S
 

:mizuno-small: ES21 54-8° & 58-12° on :kbs: Hi Rev

:L.A.B.:DF2.1 on :accra: White

:titelist-small: ProV1  

:918457628_PrecisionPro: Precision Pro  NX7 Pro

All Iron grips are BestGrips Micro-Perforated Mid

Driver, 3w, 3H are JumboMax JMX UltraLite XS 

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Two interchangeable weights and it will come with additional weights. Fubuki Z shaft, Optiforce adjustment system.

Ping G410 Plus Oban Kiyoshi Tour Limited
Ping G410 LST 3 Wood Oban Tour Prototype V430
Titleist U500 3 & 4 Oban Kiyoshi Purple Tour Reserve
Titleist 620 MB 5-9 Oban CT 125
Titleist Vokey 47* Oban CT 125, 51*, 55*, and 59* Shimada Tour Wedge Black
Bettinardi Studio Stock SS28

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Yeah I knew it had the optiforce system and the other 2 weights. And I believe that it'll come with several crown color options

In The Bag
Driver: TaylorMade M2 (2017) w/ Project X T1100 HZRDUS Handcrafted 65x 
Strong 3 wood: Taylormade M1 15* w/ ProjectX T1100 HZRDUS handcrafted 75x
3 Hybrid: Adams PRO 18* w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
4 Hybrid: Adams PRO 20* (bent to 21*) w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
4-AW: TaylorMade P770 w/ Dynamic Gold Tour Issue Black Onyx S400

SW: 56* Scratch Tour Dept(CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner
LW: 60* Scratch Tour Department (CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner
XW: 64* Cally XForged Vintage w/ DG X100 8 iron tiger stepped
Putter: Nike Method Prototype 006 at 34"

Have a ton of back-ups in all categories, but there are always 14 clubs in the bag that differ depending on the course and set-up. Bomb and gouge. Yes, I'm a club gigolo.

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When I get home this evening , I think I'll do some patent digging.

In The Bag
Driver: TaylorMade M2 (2017) w/ Project X T1100 HZRDUS Handcrafted 65x 
Strong 3 wood: Taylormade M1 15* w/ ProjectX T1100 HZRDUS handcrafted 75x
3 Hybrid: Adams PRO 18* w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
4 Hybrid: Adams PRO 20* (bent to 21*) w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
4-AW: TaylorMade P770 w/ Dynamic Gold Tour Issue Black Onyx S400

SW: 56* Scratch Tour Dept(CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner
LW: 60* Scratch Tour Department (CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner
XW: 64* Cally XForged Vintage w/ DG X100 8 iron tiger stepped
Putter: Nike Method Prototype 006 at 34"

Have a ton of back-ups in all categories, but there are always 14 clubs in the bag that differ depending on the course and set-up. Bomb and gouge. Yes, I'm a club gigolo.

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For years they've been pushing the cg lower and further back to help people get it airborne and launch it higher. Now, they're actually forcing people to stop playing "9.5 stiff" that so many people play and shouldn't be. The problem is, people don't like seeing the ball go high. They feel that they are better off with it low and getting a lot of roll. Should be an interesting year for golf equipment and to see if people continue to buy like they have been or if they say enough is enough and stop buying into the hype.

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Still digging through patents, but I did find a fairway wood that has what they call a lap joint (which is to say a slot that a soleplate laps over).  Not sure if it's coming to market, but looks like they've begun exploring the slot technology at least in fairways.  

http://images3.freshpatents.com/pdf/US20130165252A1.pdf

Still digging for drivers.

In The Bag
Driver: TaylorMade M2 (2017) w/ Project X T1100 HZRDUS Handcrafted 65x 
Strong 3 wood: Taylormade M1 15* w/ ProjectX T1100 HZRDUS handcrafted 75x
3 Hybrid: Adams PRO 18* w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
4 Hybrid: Adams PRO 20* (bent to 21*) w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
4-AW: TaylorMade P770 w/ Dynamic Gold Tour Issue Black Onyx S400

SW: 56* Scratch Tour Dept(CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner
LW: 60* Scratch Tour Department (CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner
XW: 64* Cally XForged Vintage w/ DG X100 8 iron tiger stepped
Putter: Nike Method Prototype 006 at 34"

Have a ton of back-ups in all categories, but there are always 14 clubs in the bag that differ depending on the course and set-up. Bomb and gouge. Yes, I'm a club gigolo.

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