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  1. 42 points
    Well for roughly 45 years, I've played this game, and heard lots of Hole In One stories, and have only witnessed 1 in all those years. Today, I witnessed a second one....that came from MY CLUB!! That's right my first ever Hole In One in our Thursday Morning League. Here's the specs: 145 yards back pin PING G410 6 hybrid (it was into the wind ) ProV1X #12 CG2 stamped Looked good the entire way landed just over the ridge and fed toward the flag, the actual hole is hidden due to the ridge, but when we got up there and I didn't see it on the green, I thought..."oh man it ran off the back!!) didn't see it anywhere in the fringe as i was walking to the green, so I took the obligatory look in the hole and there it was. I honestly don't remember what I said or did, but one of my playing partners said, he wishes he had a camera for the expression on my face! Pretty much shock and I didn't believe it. In the picture you'll see a Closest to the pin marker on the hole, it was a good shot in of itself about 10 feet to the right of the pin, I'm sure someone will be upset. So oh yeah, I mentioned two achievements. So that was just one very good hole of a very good round. I shot 39/43 for a personal best 82. Funny thing, the hole in one was not on the nine with the 39. Sadly that 43 was a result of two holes not being able to concentrate after the HIO, Taking a triple and double in 2 of the next three holes.
  2. 39 points
    Testers Wanted (4) Ping G710 Irons Nothing like getting the official start of the MyGolfSpy Forum testing season off to a grand start with a set of irons that follow one of the most successful irons in the recent history of PING. When launched in the spring of 2018 the G700 irons caught golfers by surprise. They were different in almost every way from any iron PING had produced. And they performed, boy did they perform. Now, as is typical for PING, two years later they've launched the new version: the G710 irons. The most noticeable visual difference is the stunning stealth black finish. But PING wouldn't be PING if there weren't several technical improvements. Chief among those is sound and feel. But don't take our word for it—that's where you come in. Four MyGolfSpy Testers will be selected to test, review, and keep the G710 irons. Testing will require a commitment of putting the irons in play on the course and at the range and providing ongoing commentary in the forum throughout the process. How To Apply As an extra bonus the selected testers will have the option to choose Golf Pride Tour Velvet grips equipped with Arccos. The clubs will come with a 99 day free trial to Arccos. After that the tester will be responsible for paying for the subscription in order to continue it. It will be a great way to add data to your review. PING has opened this testing to all golfers regardless of country of residence. To apply to be a tester follow the instructions below. In a post in this thread please provide the following information...AND DO NOT QUOTE this post when replying! First Name / State or Country of residence Handicap Current irons in Play The carry distance of your 7 iron That's it. Good luck to everyone. We'll be selecting the testers within the next 10 to 14 days, so check back to see if you've been selected!
  3. 39 points
    When it comes to PING many things come to mind, quality, engineering, performance and irons are among the first things most people will think of. And with the release earlier this year of the G410 irons, PING has hit on each one of those characteristics. Following the huge success of the G400 irons, PING has hit a home run with the striking black and red colors of this iron, as well as a being a bit more streamlined in all the right places. PING has achieved the rare feat of providing an iron that has a profile appealing to even the most discerning of golfers, but yet still offering the forgiveness and help that higher handicaps look for. We are looking for three forum members to join staff member Golfspy_Stroker in testing, reviewing and keeping a set of these G410's built to their custom specs. Testing will require a nearly two month commitment of putting the irons in play on the course, at the range and providing ongoing commentary in the forum thorough out the process. As an extra bonus to the irons, the selected testers will have the option to choose Golf Pride Tour Velvet grips equipped with Arccos. The clubs will come with a 99 day free trial to arccos. After that the tester would be responsible for paying for the subscription in order to continue it. It will be a great way to add data to your review. PING has opened this testing to all golfers regardless of country of residence. All you have to do to be eligible for the testing is follow the below instructions. In a post in this thread please provide the following information...AND DO NOT QUOTE this post when replying! First Name/State or Country of residence Handicap Current irons in Play The carry distance of the your 7 iron That's it. Good luck to everybody We'll be selecting the testers within the next 10 to 14 days, so check back to see if you've been selected! =========================================================================================== YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE.... Please join me in congratulating these members selected from a very large and diverse applicant pool: @ballplayer002003 @GregB135 @Rickp Official announcement here: https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/33112-testers-wanted-3-ping-g410-irons/?do=findComment&comment=571106
  4. 38 points
    Testers Wanted (2) T100-S and (2) T200 Titleist Irons What better way to get our minds off of all the troubles in the world these days than a good iron testing. Well at MyGolfSpy, we don’t do good, we do MIND BLOWING--You Can Not Be Serious testings!! And that’s what we have here! When Titleist introduced its new T Series irons last fall, it included pretty much everything you’d expect from Titleist, all neatly arranged—T100, T200 and T300. The T100 fit the accomplished amateur and many tour pros, while T200 and T300 were designed for the distance and game improvement segments respectively. Now this spring comes the T100-S, and you can read the excellent First Look by our own Tony Covey here: Titleist launches T100-S. Titleist in the first ever Forum Testing opportunity that I can recall, is going to provide our members a chance to put these beautiful and now longer players irons to the test. But wait there’s more: Titleist doesn’t just dip its toes in the water, it goes off the high dive! It realizes most everyday forum golfers aren’t cut out for such a player’s club. So, it’s widening the testing field to include the T-200 iron as well! That's right two models, two testers each. So read the instructions closely, as not following them exactly could cost you an opportunity to be a tester. How to Apply This is important, so please follow these instructions carefully: 1. If you haven't already, make sure you're a registered MyGolfSpy Forum member 2. Provide us with the information requested below. 3. Be honest on your selection of desired test iron and handicap, it doesn't do anybody any good to have a 36 handicap testing an iron designed for tour players and single digit handicaps. - Your First Name - City/Sate - Your Handicap - Current Iron Model In Play - Desired Model to test- You Must Choose ONE-saying something like "either one" will get you disqualified. Lastly but just as importantly Please do not 'quote' this post when applying.. Per the manufactures request: this review opportunity is open to golfers who resides in the US. We'll be announcing the testers in this thread next week, so make sure to check back.
  5. 35 points
    Fingers sweaty. Butterflies in the stomach. Type type type type, click. Click type click. It's done. I've officially registered to play on the SoMD Amateur. Here we go over the top of this crazy roller coaster. Am I making too big of a deal about this? Definitely. But I'm going to do my best here to create some entertaining content for the rest of you. I play in a weekly league that gives a nice bit of drama but there's nothing like a stroke play event. The SoMD Amateur is the biggest of these events that comes to the local area. Last time I played was (I think) was 7 years ago. Every summer since, I've considered it and ultimately backed out for one reason or another. Between kids, jobs, the price, and realistic self-assessments, I just couldn't justify entry. This year, those things are balanced enough that I'M DOING IT! God, so nervous. Here's the deets: Location: Breton Bay Golf & Country Club - LINK Dates: 28-30 June Format: 54-hole Stroke Play, putt it all the way down play all the rules Divisions: Regular Flighted, plus Sr and Jr. Player Pool: 250-300 Golfers Last time I played, attrition got the best of me. I rarely play 2 days in a row, much less 3. I entered as a 15 and was placed in the 4th flight (championship + 5 total). Shooting 89, 92, 108 landed me in the middle of the pack of some 25-30 golfers in my flight. That year was also when I took the infamous 17 on a single hole READ HERE. This year, I'm entering as a 12 which may bump me into the 3rd or 2nd flight depending on entries. If I can shoot 3 rounds in the 80's and break 85 once, I'll be a happy camper. Leading up to the event, I'll add some posts for the practice plan, course management strategy, WITB, and whatever else comes up. Obviously, you won't get live streams during the rounds but I'll be sure to check in with some short recaps after each round and a overall wrap-up once it's done. For now, wish me luck
  6. 35 points
    Ping G410 Plus Driver - Stage 1 Review - jlukes Well it has been almost 2 whole years since I participated in official MGS forum testing and I have to admit, it feels great to be back in the fold! I have previously tested the Sun Mountain 3.5LS Stand Bag (which I still use), Evnroll ER2 putter (which I am taking to my grave with me), and Mizuno JPX 900 Tour irons (the only reason I am not still gaming these is that through fitness and lessons I increased my swing speed to the point where I needed to change shafts). What you should notice is that I do not apply to test everything and anything, and when I do apply to test something, it is a product that I am sincerely interested in doing a thorough long-term review for. I am going to use some of the background from previous forum reviews because a lot of that information hasn’t changed! My name is Joe and I am from Central NJ. I have been playing golf for about 23 years (since I was 12) and I am about a 4.1 handicap at the moment. I started hitting balls when I was much younger - my grandfather cut down an old 9 iron and 5 wood and gave them to me so I could hit balls in my backyard. I remember my first 9 holes being when I was about 11 years old - I shot 63 with my dad. I started playing in County tournaments when I was about 13 years old and played varsity golf in High School. My first job when I was at the local driving range/mini golf, and all through High School I worked at golf course taking care of the carts, running bags, and eventually became the starter. I have always enjoyed being around the game of golf in any capacity and I have found that it is truly a game for life. My son is just over 2 and he is already addicted to the game. I hope that he continues to see what a fun game this is and it becomes something we can bond over for years to come. When it comes to my golf game, I would say I have quite a few strengths. I am a long hitter (Carry my driver > 270 yards), I have an okay wedge game, and I am a good putter. Time is my enemy when it comes to golf; not being able to practice and play as much as I’d like (more than once a week or so) prevents me from being consistent. I have rounds where I am pounding it off the tee, but I can’t hit a GIR, and then I have rounds where I am a little wonky off the tee, but my short game saves me. Everything finally came together for me in November 2016 when I shot a personal best of -1 71, beating my previous best of +2 74. I am the type of golfer that can be extremely competitive, but I also love fun, no-pressure rounds with my buddies. A lot of the guys I golf with are not as good as me, but I do not care in the least. I enjoy playing with all skill levels and I have no problem giving advice and helping someone with their game if asked (and only if asked). I enjoy walking the course as much as possible and nothing frustrates me more than long rounds. I see no reason why an average round should take over 4 hours, no matter what the golfers’ skill levels are. If you want to know a bit more about my swing, I have a swing overhaul thread I have been chronicling here: It has been an interesting spring as I work to keep the momentum up from my winter lesson programs and I will update that thread with updates on my swing changes as the season goes on. But for the sake of this review, you should know that my driver swing speed is around 113-116 MPH and I play a bit of a draw. I have an upwards angle of attack and my miss is primarily a hook. Here is a video of my driver swing from the end of February For me, driver is my weapon. I play aggressive off the tee because if there is anything that modern analytics and “strokes gained” has taught us, it is that distance is king and that taking advantage of my ability to hit it long is key to me scoring low. I pull driver every opportunity I have. I am no more accurate with my fairway wood or hybrid, so there is no reason for me to sacrifice distance by laying up off the tee unless a hole absolutely calls for a lay up. I try to get on or close to all Par 5s in two, and I try to get myself as close as possible on all Par 4s so that I can be hitting a wedge into the green if the yardage dictates. I wasn’t always a great driver of the ball. I used to have quite a negative attack angle which resulted in low launch and high spin. No amount of head and shaft changes (much to my dismay) could correct a bad attack angle, so in 2014 I went through a swing change and learned to hit up on my driver. Once I got a positive angle of attack locked in, I noticed I gained 15+ yards of carry on my drives! I have been through quite a few drivers since high school - some were great, others were mistakes (due to lack of knowledge about fitting and purchasing on a whim) TaylorMade 320 TaylorMade r5 TaylorMade r11 TaylorMade RBZ Tour Cobra Amp Cell Callaway Big Bertha Alpha (fitted) Cobra Bio Cell+ Srixon 545 TaylorMade M1 (fitted) TaylorMade M2 (2017) (fitted) Cobra F8+ (fitted) Titleist TS2 (fitted) When the Ping 410 Plus testing was unveiled, I knew it was a testing that I wanted to put my name in the hat for. Ping received such outstanding reviews on their G400 line and I knew that that the G410 had to be something special in order to follow the G400. With that being said, I have never gamed a Ping club before. I do have a few old Ping putters, but I never really even given an extensive look to Ping Metalwoods and Irons. Thankfully, I was selected for this great testing opportunity and I get to see what Ping is all about! There are a number of selling points/claims that I will be keeping an eye on throughout testing: Turbulators - do they really increase swing speed? Adjustability - Well the G410 Plus is the most adjustable driver Ping has ever made. Does the weight track (3 fixed positions) actually work? Hosel Adjustment - The G410 Plus features a brand new adjustable hosel from Ping, one that now includes “flat” settings. Do they make a difference? I will put these three elements, as well as the general performance of the G410 Plus to the test over the coming months with the hope of providing the best information for the MGS forum. At the time of being selected for this review, I was gaming a Titleist TS2 driver that I was fit for at Club Champion. I truly believe that fitting is necessary to maximize what a golf club can do for a player. I chose the TS2 during my fitting because it provided me with the best combination of distance and accuracy. The Cobra F9 and Epic Flash SZ were longer, but I had trouble with both distance and lateral dispersions. When I was selected for G410+ testing, I immediately went to my local range, who happens to be a Top 100 Ping fitter, and got a basic fitting for the G410+. Unlike other OEMs, Ping does not offer a wide selection of no-upcharge shaft options. The only two shaft options that were really even under consideration for me were the Evenflow Black and the Ping Tour. However, I know from past fittings that I do not get along with the Evenflow series, so it came down to the Ping Tour. We set up the G410+ in a 9-degree head a Ping Tour 65X shaft and it was clear right away that it was the combination I would submit to Ping for testing. I asked Ping that it play 45" at a D3 swing weight. After I received my club I tested the swing weight and length at a shop and wasn't surprised to see Ping delivered on the nose. During the testing period I will be testing the G410 on the range, on the course, and on launch monitors. While I will be touching on how the club fits me, I will try to remain focused on validating the performance claims from Ping to see if the G410 stacks up with the rest of the drivers on the market. I want my review to be as interactive as possible, so please ask me as many questions on this testing thread and I will attempt to address them all. You won’t have to wait for my Stage 2 to head how things are going. All testers will be actively participating in the thread to provide updates as we go - so we can continue the conversation from day to day. So I mentioned that the TS2 was my gamer going into this testing, but if you are a regular on the forum, you would have noticed that as of this Stage 1 (April 3rd), I have sold my TS2. Without divulging too much right now, my 3 range sessions and 2 rounds were enough for me to know that the G410 Plus was going to be better for me going forward. Furthermore, I believe a good testing write-up should be about the individual club in the test and not about a club going head to head with another club. So does the Ping G410 Plus carry the torch that was lit by the G400 series? Early results are positive and I look forward to sharing the rest of my thoughts with the MGS community as the testing progresses.
  7. 34 points
    I feel compelled to weigh in from the MGS perspective so I'll do my best to address your concerns. You don't have to take my word for it but please consider these with an open mind. Here we go: Allowing Ads from small/medium companies: Yes, ad dollars are accepted from these companies, but that's only after MGS vets their product and deems it to be of high quality. There's a lot of products that get denied sponsorship because they just don't pass the smell test. You'd see these companies highly ranked in tests regardless if they were sponsors. Bias for the little guys through test results: Advertising on the site is completely removed from the tests. Most Wanted could be written by a robot with zero emotional connection because there's a straight line from the data to the results. Tests may change from year to test but that objective is to increase the quality of the test. All things must improve over time and Most Wanted is no different. Glaring (or not) reviews: The MGS Blog has long been out of the game of writing reviews. They may do feature pieces on new technology but the reviews can be found here, on the forum, conducted by real people. We can only put clubs in the hands of real people if a company offers up product. We ask every OEM, every year, and run the tests that we receive commitments from. No Scotty reviews means no Scotties have been submitted (as much as our members would love it). Forum Review Integrity: Any agreement we make comes with the caveat that good reviews are not guaranteed. We've lost sponsors before at the hands of poor performing member reviews. So be it. If there's one thing we promise, it's an unbiased opinion and that will not be compromised. Political Affiliation: Please don't Your final statement is an aggressive agreement with our philosophy. The data indicates tendencies of key attributes over large sample sizes but does not dictate what's best for you. Every player is different. The large data size or individual reviews should be considered a starting point, not a finish line. Eric, I would like to sincerely thank you for voicing your concerns on our site. Open discussion is key to education. I hope my response sufficiently addressed your apprehensions about MyGolfSpy. If you have any other questions or concerns, fire away and we'll be happy to respond.
  8. 31 points
    Official Review Thread: PING G710 Irons It's a special joy for me to announce the reviewers of the PING G710 irons. PING iron tests are always among our most-applied-for, (dare I say) most wanted review opportunities. I had the privilege of getting in on the test of the predecessor to the G710s and have shot the best rounds of my life with my G700s. I am absolutely looking forward to seeing how the sequels perform in the hands of our four forum testers! Without further ado, our reviewers will be: @perseveringgolfer @Berg Ryman @JonMUSC08 @McaseyM Join me in congratulating these four and in following their reviews here!
  9. 31 points
    Ping G410 Plus Driver Review - Stage 1 Hello to all my fellow MGS’s who visit the Official Product Testers sub forum for some no-nonsense, candid Intel about all the new products that promise to rock our golf world. For me personally, this sub forum and the product reviews written by the staff are what made MyGolfSpy my choice as the golf forum to spend time being part of. First off, a HUGE Thank You to MGS and PING who, along with other manufacturers, make these product testing opportunities possible! What a fantastic way to engage us mere mortal, non-professional golfers, and get feedback from a wide cross-section of players. Seriously, the whole “product tester” thing is crazy cool and I am both honored and excited to have been selected for the Ping G410 Driver testing!! I would also like to give a quick shout out and Thank You to George at Desert Hills GC, Yuma, AZ for offering to do my club fitting. When I told him the situation (being selected by MGS as a product tester), he scheduled me right in so I could get the data back for the order. If you are ever in Yuma, AZ, play a round at Desert Hills and say hi to George and Drew - great guys doing a fantastic job running that course. My Background So, just who is this @fixyurdivot dude? My name is Bill, now 58 and I started golfing about age 7 in Ft. Lauderdale, FL. My Dad absolutely loved the game and introduced me to it. A used set of junior Chi-Chi Rodriguez clubs and a plaid golf bag became the tools of my trade. On Saturdays, myself and a couple of other neighborhood friends would get dropped off at a course where we’d get lessons and then play a small par 3 until late afternoon when someone would pick us up. A year later, I was playing in Junior Golf of America (JGA) and spending Saturday’s chewing up courses around south Florida which included Doral CC, Jackie Gleason Inverrary and Bonaventure GC. I never won a single event but the memories are still with me. I continued to play the game all my life – with bursts of focused effort/interest followed by periods of lackadaisical play. While in the Air Force, I once again got the bug and played quite a bit. I shot my lowest round ever (74) at Mather AFB in Sacramento, CA. Upon getting my Mechanical Engineering degree, my wife and I relocated to WA where I went to work for Boeing. I soon joined a work golf league and played pretty regularly – up until the last 5 or so years of my 30 years with them when travel, workload, and responsibilities made finding time a challenge. In 2016 I opted for early retirement and we moved to the golf capital of the world – Montana! Now I must confess that fly fishing is my #1 passion and I handle a 5 weight much better than a 5i, but golf is a really, really close second and I soon found myself playing the local courses. Combine that with our “snowbird” travel from Nov-Mar here in Yuma, AZ, where I play 3 times a week, and my fly rods are feeling left out. My Golf Game My current game has been pretty steady and I typically shoot in the 80’s. I don’t keep an official handicap, but my math has me at 13 presently. My best official handicap (11) was in the early 90’s. Inconsistency tends to be my nemesis – shooting a 38 on one side and a 47 on the other. Staying clear of “blow-up” holes when having a good round going is also problematic and most often it’s a drive gone OB that was the cause. I would say iron play is my strength as is my chipping. I have a pretty compact swing (not a huge rotation), not a really long hitter, and my typical driver ball flight is straight to slight fade. Another challenge I have is keeping swing tempo down. I’ve really been focusing on that the last couple of years and made BIG improvements, but I still get in trouble with that. I find myself playing courses much smarter these days then years ago. I lay up a bit more rather than trying to reach a par 5 in two – and to be honest, I’m still hitting as far, or further than a decade ago. While I still take aggressive lines off the tee, particularly when I’m driving well, I pay more attention to course conditions when choosing to do so. The “swing for the fence” mentality has slowly changed to a “manage the course” approach. I also find the "swing easy, hit well and far" approach to work for me. What’s in my bag? Well, let’s just get right to it – I still play PingEye 2 irons. I purchased these new in 1988 and have been playing them ever since. Up until last year, I gamed a Callaway Great Big Bertha, 8.5 degree driver. What can I say; I’m German-Irish stubborn, frugal, and not easily hooked by slick marketing and bling. It was only after repeated suggestions (ok, harsh teasing) from friends, that I needed to move into the current century in golf technology, that I purchased my current Callaway Razr-Fit driver in January 2018. I was fitted for the driver and it was among three I tested at the Kartsen Golf Facility at ASU. I immediately saw significant improvement in driving distance, accuracy, and forgiveness – silently asking myself why the hell I did not make that upgrade years earlier. Bill's Antique Clubs: So, this opportunity to test PING's newest driver technology is really interesting in my case. Having just made a logarithmic shift in driver technology, 1990 to 2014 circa, how much more could I possibly be missing? I am hitting the Razr-Fit very well and have confidence with it. The G410 Plus has a steep hill to climb. Will it reduce those OB score killers? Will its selectable “draw/fade” weight option, or 8 position shaft tuning feature allow me to get more draw ball flight? Will it yield faster club head speeds and carry distance? We shall see…. we shall see. First Impressions To be brutally honest, I do not find the G410 to be the sexiest looking driver. In fact, to me, it has a Chevy Truck vs. Lamborghini look to it. More utilitarian than posh, it has a brutish appearance that simply says “I’m ready for work”. The black, matte finish crown has no contrasting sheen areas, no logos, and no ball alignment mark. The “Turbulators” (small raised humps) on the crown are carried over from the G400 for improved aerodynamics – faster club head speed. At 455 cc in size, the G410 looks pretty compact compared to many of its competitors. This is a plus for my taste as I really dislike the “VW Bug on a stick” look. In comparison to my current driver, which is also smaller in look for a 458cc size, the G410 gets a thumbs up. At address, it looks great to my eye. The head cover is of nice quality and well made; sporting the PING logo and G410 designation. The graphics on the Alta CB shaft picks up the red accent on the driver head quite nicely and looks great. The Spec Sheet: The sole of the driver, interestingly enough, provides a bit more glitz with the PING name in bold chrome letters along with the G410 moniker. The leading edge of the sole has a black mirror chrome appearance which transitions into a v-shaped wear area. The forged face is fairly nondescript having a milled finish with contrasting white and light grey groove marks. It's as if PING is saying “it’s not the bling on the outside, but what’s under the hood that really matters”... and I'd be the first to tell you I'm good with that. Ping’s first “moveable weight” system for ball flight control is likewise kept demure with only a thin, red pin stripe following the arc of the weight track along the trailing edge of the head. The weight can be moved from the center “neutral” to either a forward “fade” or rear “draw” position. This feature is the principal difference between the "Plus" and "SFT" - the latter having a fixed periphery weight designed to prevent fade/slice ball strikes. On the surface, these seem a bit "gimmicky" to me. I'm really curious just how this feature will affect ball flight. I still tend to push more than pull shots and would love to see this feature work as advertised. This is something I will be evaluating and reporting on. My Fitting My fitting took place at the range and using the ES14 launch monitor. George had all of the available driver lofts and the four shafts. Both my Callaway GBB and my current Callaway Razr-Fit are 8.5 degree loft. Because I tend to still hit these pretty high, I told George I think the 9 degree would be a good baseline for me - he agreed. I started off warming up with my 6i and he used that to get some initial impressions of my swing and speed. He suggested the Alta CB Red in stiff, standard length. I hit the first half dozen or so shots well, fairly straight, and out just past the 200 yard marker. I then had a couple of hard pulls left. He switched me to the regular stiffness shaft and I again hit the first handful pretty straight and to about the same distance, but with higher trajectory. We then change from the neutral (0) to the (-) position - which changes loft from 9 to 8 degrees. I started seeing a bit more fade and contact marks out towards the toe. We changed back to the stiff shaft and with the same (-) setting. I was back to hitting more to center, with lower trajectory. He felt I could probably make either the regular or stiff work, but that I would likely see more accentuated pull and fade with the regular when I really lean into the shot. I asked about the other available shafts; (Project X Even-Flow, Tour, and Alta Distanza) and he said that except for the Distanza the others were more tailored for a player with much faster swing speed. What's Next OK Mr. G410 you’ve peaked my interest, but this is range time, not game time. What are you bringing to the course? Next up are some initial rounds with the Razr-Fit left at home – providing no emergency backup . Hopefully I can squeeze in another day at the range using their LM for some further fine tuning of the loft/lie and some head to head data against my Razr-Fit. We will then be heading back home to Montana where I have scheduled some time later this spring with a club fitter in Bozeman that has a ForeSight GC Quad launch monitor. My plan is to repeat the comparison with my current driver, but also get ball flight data using game balls. As the snow and frost clears, more rounds will be played ultimately seeing if PING's new “top gun” is better than my $60.00 Razr-Fit. Stay tuned for updates and Stage 2. Thank you so much for taking the time to read!
  10. 31 points
    Stage 1 First and foremost, thank you MGS Mods for selecting me to be an official tester for the G410 SFT. My name is Tony, I just turned 72 and even though I started playing after I retired, I am obsessed with this game. Prior to retirement I always thought golf was a silly game – after all, how hard could it be to get that LITTLE white ball into that BIG hole. Numerous times on the way home we would pass several fairways at our Club’s golf course and on those cold, or rainy days we would invariably see someone out there playing. My son and I would laugh and talk about those crazy guys out there – what could they be doing or thinking, playing golf in the cold or rain! And then it happened for some unknown reason my wife and I decided to start playing golf. It took one game for me to catch the bug and become obsessed with the game! We’re fortunate to live adjacent to a combined Marina and Golf Club with an Arthur Hills 18-hole Links course in northwest Ohio. It is a picturesque course adjacent to Lake Erie, with strong headwinds and it is also a qualifying course for the U.S.Open. These past few years have been a long journey. After being fit for G20’s, I took lessons from the head pro which was interesting to say the least, as he was telling me to do several things at once. It reminded me of that Einstein story of taking up golf where he threw 5 balls back at the instructor and said catch, the instructor responded I can’t do that – yes exactly! With those lessons in the back of my mind I went off to the driving range. The irons weren’t too bad, but my drives had a beautiful slice that from an aerial view would have made a fishing hook proud. Enter instructor 2 at a Muni. We worked on a lot of things, but he always focused on Position, Grip and Alignment. Several lessons later: the driver had become more of a fade with a too frequent slice, the irons were ok, and the chipping was a big improvement (due to lots of practice in the backyard). At this point my index is still in the 30’s because when the driver is working, the irons aren’t and vice versa. Exit this instructor as he decided to move to South Carolina. I found a new instructor, who immediately recognized a couple of issues and I started working on the improvements, including spine angle and a stronger grip. Now it’s a consistent draw. Not so bad since most of our penalty areas (aka water hazards) are on the left (remember I’m a lefty). In the meantime, my driver evolved into a GBB with an Aldilla SR flex shaft. With lots of work at the range, reading and playing as much as possible, my index dropped last summer to a 22 and I did break 90. Oh, and as a side note I was an Official Tester for W/S C300’s – thank you Mods! This past Fall, we got to play at our course until late November – my index did bump up slightly but only because there’s something about shivering in cold weather that’s not conducive to golf. Overall game evaluation 1-10 with 10 being best/most consistent Driver = 5 Irons = 7 Wedges = 9 Putter = 6 This past Winter I spent my time reading even more and watching instructional videos and when weather allowed, a few trips to a heated driving range. Since I was working on my swing, I intentionally slowed it down to around 76-80 mph (using my SC200) to focus on accuracy. With the slower SS I was getting a much narrower dispersion. I didn’t pay much attention to distance since it was cold, generally windy and the range was using their “winter” balls. Next step will be working on SS. Then the MGS Official Testing for the G410 SFT happened and I was lucky enough to be selected. My reason for applying was threefold: #1 gain more consistency resulting in a narrower dispersion, #2 distance, and #3 sound. Note: with my G20 I could tell by the sound when I had a mishit. On our course, the first two priorities take the penalty areas out of play for me, along with the potential for higher % GIR’s. First impression: With the GBB and SR flex shaft as background, and a prior fitting with the Ping G and SR shaft (which I didn't buy), I ordered the driver with 10.5* loft and the Alta CB 55 shaft in SR flex which is about 10 grams lighter than the Aldilla. The G410 also came with Tour Velvet grips. I’m a big fan of MCC+4 and with my XL glove size, I decided to order it with the orange option which is their jumbo grip. The driver arrived very quickly, especially given the “less than common” configuration of a lefty head and a SR shaft. The grip initially felt too large – but I did have a pair of FJ rain gloves on when I tried it. Putting one normal golf glove it felt fine. However, at some point I'll replace with the MCC+4. The head is what I expected with a satin finish on top. What was a nice surprise is how good the bottom looks with the red “streaks”. I never noticed that in the stores. It looks so good in the bag – I hate to put the cover over the driver. The head cover, however, is good looking and a nice improvement over previous Ping covers. The one thing that was a slight surprise, but only because I didn’t pay attention to the online description is that the weight on the SFT is fixed. In the scheme of things that’s not a big issue for me. However, if you want a sliding weight, you’ll have to move to the G410 Plus. The connector is easily adjustable, and the instructions are clear and concise. If you happen to lose the instructions – no worries the connector is clearly marked and has eight settings. Of course, the club did come with a wrench, however, I doubt I’ll be adjusting it once it gets set at the Fitter’s. Next steps; Get to a fitter to set the correct loft adjustment. My guess is that it’ll be either set at neutral or .06* configuration. While I’m at the Fitter, I’m bringing my GBB as well to do a “head to head” comparison. It’ll be my Ping vs. Callaway challenge so stay turned for that. Additionally, with 2 lesson certificates that my wife gave me for Christmas – I’m going to use one to further improve my drives. My expectations are that the 410 SFT gets me 7-10 additional yds. plus, a much narrower dispersion and looking for that 5 to move to at least a 7 or 8. . Let the battle of my drivers begin!
  11. 30 points
    Huge Forum News: We're 10!!!! As we were working on a recent project for the forums, we started poking around in the archives and stumbled on a really cool truth: the forum launched 10 years ago! There are some initial test posts from January and February, but forum kicked off in a big way at the end of February/beginning of March 2010. So we started compiling some of the history of the forum, including talking with some of our longtime forum legends. We pieced the story together and today, it's featured on the MyGolfSpy blog: https://mygolfspy.com/the-mygolfspy-community-forum-celebrates-10-years-of-golf-talk/ In conjunction with the 10th Anniversary Celebration, we've just launched a dedicated Twitter account for the Forum Community: https://twitter.com/ForumMyGolfSpy. If you're a SM user, go give us a follow. And go read the story and keep an eye on the forum in the next few days: we have some celebrating to do, and you're not going to want to miss it!
  12. 28 points
    I hope you guys don't mind me posting this. Most people would do it on Facebook. But I consider each if you friends more so than the 500 some FB says I have My mom passed away this morning in Pensacola, FL. She was 89 and had suffered with dementia the better part of the last 10 years. It had gotten progressively worse the past two years. I last saw her a year ago. At that time It was sadly obvious that She had no clue who I was or any recall of past events. She was put in hospice care at that time. The fact she battled it for another year is a testament to her toughness. She grew up on a small farm in MS with her father passing at a young age and a mom in bad health. At age 15, She pretty much raised her baby sister and took care of the house while still graduating HS before marrying my father a year afterwards. I was 10 and my brother 6 when my parents divorced. She worked full time and raised two sons, without us ever wanting for a thing Or going hungry. Well I never did get that racetrack set for Christmas that I kept asking for I owe every value I have to this day to her. She taught us how to be honest, account for our selves and treat others kindly. She didn't see color in people, she just saw the good in then. .. whee and when she was raised, that is actually damn impressive. I received many of my physical traits from her or her family, she had older twin brothers who were 6'4. During my adult years I visited her as often as I could. But not often enough. Yet she always had a full pan of lasagna, a huge baking dish of Banana Pudding and dozens and dozens of Chocolate Chip cookies. Like I said. We never went hungry. The timing really sucks. Obviously I and my brother and sisters can't travel there now. She made plans a couple years ago to be cremated. So that's what they will do. A family friend down there will hold on to her remais. When everything clears up, my siblings and I will meet in MS for a service and say our goodbyes. This was my last picture with her. Time and illness had taken a toll on her. But she still managed a smile. Rest in peace Mom. I love you.
  13. 28 points
    STAGE-1 TESTER INTRODUCTION for: Official MGS 2019 PING G410 SFT Driver Review SUBMITTED BY: PING Apologist #9 Greetings Fellow Spies! My name is Robert and I am here to share my initial thoughts about one of PING’s newest driver models for 2019; The PING G410 SFT (Straight Flight Tech). First, I must thank everyone at MGS and the fine folks at PING Golf for entrusting me to test & evaluate the performance of this newest driver. It is a true honor and one that I take very, very seriously. I hope that my experiences with it will help you determine whether or not it lives up to the maker’s claims and if it will be worthy of your hard-earned dollars to consider buying for yourself. Stay tuned as I hope to answer both of those questions over the next several weeks. A bit about myself as a “golfer”. I live, work & play here in Southwestern Idaho, and though I’ve golfed here and there over the span of 30 years, I’ve never really considered golf as a serious hobby. But just over a year-and-a-half ago, I got the bug and started the journey with club purchases, constant upgrades and endless tinkering. Now I consider golf to be my “primary” hobby with fly fishing being a close second. My golf skill-set at this point is still mostly self-taught and I sit at a rather high and unfortunate 21 handicap. I’d much rather go out and play than practice most days, and this mentality probably holds me back quite significantly. My game strengths are chipping, wedge play, short irons and I love hitting my 3 and 5 woods. However, hitting driver is still an adventure for me. Even though I currently game the G400 SFT which is supposed to correct a slice (and why I chose it), my general shot shape is still a fade and my miss is the bad slice right. About 50% of my drives are “good” and travel 230-240-yds with a slight cut...Here's a "good-un"... Just like many, I really need to be able to make driver more of a consistent asset and not a continued enigma since I tend to use it a lot. I hit it on most par-4s & almost all par-5’s. I do not possess enough distance with my longer irons for those 160-190 yard shots (my true weakness) to avoid hitting driver from most tees. My 3 & 5-woods will save me usually when I need a 190-220 shot and sometimes I can get to some par-5’s in two with one of those clubs, but not too often. Plus, driver is just plain fun to hit! I need and want one that helps me have consistent distance and most of all, goes straight! After MGS declared the G400 LST as the Most-Wanted Driver of 2018 (https://mygolfspy.com/2018-most-wanted-driver), I knew I had to get into a 400…and pronto! That’s just what I did last August, and all though I didn’t fit into the (then) vaunted LST, the SFT model was a better suited to me and it remains my current gamer. So when PING announced the pending release of the new G410 line late last year, I was honestly a bit surprised. To me it seemed that the G400 series was cooking along just fine and really hadn’t been out long enough to be in need of any sort of upgrade. PING is constantly noted for their engineering prowess, and they too are also known for not just willy-nilly releasing new gear out to market “just because”. My first question I had for them when introducing this new line-up was “Why?” Was there something wrong with the G400’s?! Was an improvement needed so quickly???!! Their mantra has always been that a replacement line of golf clubs must have some true data to back up the fact that they really outperform the one they are intended to replace. This current paradox shall be the primary crux of my evaluation and I am very curious if this “improved” design does indeed give enough added benefits that are good enough to kick my beloved G400 out of the bag... But let’s be honest here. Ping hasn’t truly embraced the “adjustability” trend, especially with their driver, however this newest offering seems to have finally addressed that; especially considering other clubs in this same generation (like their newest G410 hybrids) now offer removable shafts and an adjustable hosel, where the same clubs from the 400 series did not. For driver they now have 8-way adjustability up from 4-way options before which did not include any loft settings. This is a leap in PING’s thinking, but is it too late and too redundant? Well, here is what PING states about the G410 SFT (https://ping.com/clubs/drivers/g410-sft “The G410 SFT (Straight Flight Technology) provides maximum fade and slice correction while delivering all the performance benefits of the G410 Plus such as a high MOI and faster ball speed. A fixed weight on the extreme perimeter and 50% more heel-side CG than G400 ensures straighter ball flights. A lighter D1 swingweight helps square the face at impact.” And this is what they had to say about the G400 SFT (https://ping.com/clubs/drivers/g400-sft “The G400 SFT (Straight Flight) is custom-engineered with more heel-side tungsten weighting and a lighter swingweight to help square the face and generate right-to-left shot bend (right-handed golfers). The multi-material design combines reduced drag and a thinner, stronger, faster T9S+ forged face to increase speed and distance. With a combined MOI over 9,000 and a deep CG, improved accuracy leads to tighter dispersion.” Are the G410 drivers better than the G400’s? Both descriptions sound very, very similar with the only exception being that the 410 has “50% more heel-side CG” than the 400 which you can easily (I hope) see below. Standard-issued swing weights are similar (both D1) and they both claim “faster” ball speed which is this year’s buzz term from everybody this year, or so it seems…. We shall see and I intend to find out if that 50% is the “shiznay” or just so much smoke. Just a day after I was awarded this honor, I set an appointment for a fitting. While my current driver was fitted to me, it was done so without the aid of a launch monitor. This time was to be my first foray into a hitting bay with a fitter. It was ugly. Swing speed was lower than I thought (only 90 at best) and I couldn’t seem to hit one straight to save my life. Add to that, they didn’t have a demo SFT head, so had to hit the “Plus” head with the weight in the “Draw-Bias” position which I don’t believe has the same “umph” for the draw-bias an actual SFT head does. Anyhow, I tried several shafts, and though the slices continued to rack up on the monitor, I settled for the Mitsubishi Tensei CK Orange in stiff. Regular flex just felt weird and I didn’t see much in the way of improvement, so I stuck to stiff which also will allow a more accurate “apples-to-apples” comparison between it and my 400. I had it cut down by ½” from the 45.75” norm which actually makes it a D0 swing weight according to my official PING "Birth Certificate". And I had the standard size GP Tour Velvet grip put on which suits me just fine... As for testing, I will put this 410 in direct competition with my 400, which may wind up being a bit of a battle... So, I will be gathering side-by-side data on the range with my basic launch monitor, shot scope app, in hitting bays with launch monitors and then game them and see if there are any differences at all between their performance. Most of all, I want to know if the added 50% of heel-side CG will help me have a more consistent and straight ball flight that is noticeably better than my 400... Strap in Spies and please send me any questions or testing ideas you’d like to see done. I will be happy to also share my "first-impressions" with you, just ask. I am here at your service. Please be looking for my Phase-II coming soon. Thanks for reading! Cheers all!
  14. 27 points
    Too many people are being apathetic towards this. I'm probably one of the most apathetic people you could ever meet, but this is something that I take seriously. Look, the reality is that I have a decent chance to survive if I caught it, but that's not the issue here. The issue is people in my age group, with healthy immune systems, infecting those who are immune-compromised. Unfortunately as a society we don't think about others as much as we should, even our own families. How could you live with yourself if you infected a sick relative, and they didn't make it to recovery? My FIL is currently going through chemo for a stage 4 pancreatic cancer diagnosis. I'm absolutely terrified of getting him sick, and I wish more people were scared to get others sick -- even random strangers.
  15. 27 points
    Print is dead they say. Sure, maybe it’s on it’s way out, but BLUEPRINTS are definitely not dead. My mantra of aim small, miss small, and my self proclaimed “Modern Traditionalist” attitude came full circle with these clubs... seemingly built for me. A technicians blade. A tool for shaping, carving, flighting, and painting the sky with pin point accuracy. Many of you know that I prefer looking at small compact “traditional” looking clubs. I practice with an old Kroyden 2 Iron!! I have a Callaway mini driver for my “driver”, a Taylormade TS 3 Wood (size of a lot of hybrids), Taylormade JetSpeed 2 Hybrid, the Bridgestone Wedges, and a regular old PING Anser putter. For me that gives me confidence. If I’m starring down at a giant balloon I get nervous. I’ll likely add a recent gen driver soon, I am leaving too much distance in the bag, and I’m looking to ditch the 3 wood for a G410 2 Hybrid.... the 2 iron is a 235+ club for me with a stock swing. I don’t have anything against anyone that plays GI or SGI clubs, my father in law is a heck of a stick with some big old shovels. I feel I will play better with something smaller.... guess we will find out!! Wow.... You have no idea of the logistics we had to plan out for this test. I cannot thank MyGolfSpy and PING enough. They were put out for delivery 2 days early to my new house while I was still in Michigan. I had to send my real estate agent to pick them up so they weren’t stolen or worse (someone else hitting them before me!), she gladly helped out. Extra Starbucks card in the thank you note for her! I went for a fitting after being contacted, I made 10 good swings on the mat, it was the same day I had played Greywalls, my swing was waaaay off. It wasn’t pretty. This was my first official fitting, and after doing it I can’t recommend it enough for anyone getting into the game, or even those of us that were/are stuck in our old ways. We had to use an iBlade head because he didn’t have the BLUEPRINT fitting head in. He recommended one set up but I knew that wouldn’t work when my swing was on, but I noticed something while testing out the Project X LZ shaft that I really liked. The peak height was lower than the KBS Tour X and the TT X100. And I was about 4 yards longer and way closer to center. I went with the 6.0 because I absolutely loved the feel of it, and the results were top notch! Probably could have went with the 6.5’s with my swing speed, but I didn’t notice anything in it. I didn’t think to take a picture of my swing stats, but I remember seeing 3-5° down and neutral to 1° out to in, and in to out on the majority of the swings. I know I was coming in a little steep that day, because I was over compensating for my block... Stock Grips, loft, black lie code, and standard length make up the rest of the clubs. The align grips are midsize and I don’t even notice the alignment aid. ... When I opened the box there were 2-PW, so you guys will get to see some stingers! Either a proper one or one that really stings. Yes... it is a small 2 iron. To be honest the last time I played full time with a blade was many moons ago. My current gamers are the Taylormade RocketBladez Tour, but not for long... I’ve ordered a Glide 56° to complement these irons for the test. (Mini review to come on that) If I like the 56° I will add a 50°... Ok, let’s get into the bread and butter knives. Forged 8620 steel [emoji736] Minimal Offset [emoji736] Narrow Sole [emoji736] THIN Topline [emoji736] Short Blade Length [emoji736] Sure does, smell, look, and feel like a blade... aside from blinding chrome finish. The questions: Do they feel like a forged blade? Can I shape, and flight them? Are they forgiving on mishits? Do I lose any distance over my CB’s? How will the extra bounce work? How low can I go with the 2 iron? (Video to come) Can I play the beat golf I possibly can with these? A few more pics to tide you over: Fire away on questions!!!
  16. 27 points
    The Masters provided some excellent drama for us all. Tiger's first win in 11 years was a momentous occasion that was felt worldwide. Aside from the greater golf public, three special Golf Spies especially benefited as the first winners of #SpyStaffSlam of the season. Thanks to some improvements in the process, we're now able to release the full scoring spreadsheet for each to view their own ranking. I encourage anyone interested to download a copy to mine the data for interesting stats and charts. The link has been posted in The Masters thread, but here it is again: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RRiDBlLOeOQpB9jIKbyNsXvDbfW6qzXq-5l7Q-9izhw/edit?usp=sharing Before we get into announcements, here's some quick stats: 1150 Entries total making this year's Masters the largest #SpyStaffSlam yet. The Chalk picks of Rory, Kuchar, Poulter, Kisner, ZJ did quite poorly as a group but were pulled up as Kisner rose above the chalk curse by being a perfect in his Tier. As a group, Chalk finished at #608 on the leaderboard. Technically, "None" was the most popular pick for Tier 5. Apparently, reading is not fundamental. The Anti Chalk picks didn't fare any better; however, as they finished at #903 A perfect team would've been: Tiger, Xander, Webb, Oleson/Kisner, and Harding. Our winner had 4/5 correct!!! Speaking of winners, here's your honorable mention: 10) @TrippleBogie757 with $3,036,632 9) @curtis majeran with $3,050,571 8. @tbs0001 with $3,053,880 7) @dead aim with $3,144,591 6) @Sucina with $3,262,031 5) @David.lomberk with $3,361,311 4) @D_Golfer with $3,361,311 The margin was slim with a mere $300k separating these guys from 10-4. One different pick could've made the different and there was certainly room for improvement since 5 of these guys had invalid/none for Tier 5. Missed it by that much! Now, onto the prizes: 3rd/2nd actually came to a TIE!!! Both @GreasedUpStingers and @daviddvm picked the exact same team: Tiger, Xander, Cantlay, Kisner, Bjerregard for a total of $3,455,090. NOT ONLY THAT. Both spies picked -13 as the winning score. Equally close, equally PERFECT. You guys must be like soul mates or something. Wilson, being awesome as they are, has decided to give each of you both the 2nd and 3rd prizes: a D7 driver and a dozen golf balls of your choice. WOWZA. After the commotion of the co-runner ups has settled, time to announce our grand prize. With 4/5 perfect picks, our winner of ANY Wilson Staff Irons is: @Big Moody Winning Team: Tiger, Xander, Webb, Kisner, Mitchell for a total of $3,484,270 Congrats to the prize winners! Be on the lookout for a PM from me for fulfillment. If you didn't win, I hope you enjoyed the event. See you back at the PGA!!
  17. 26 points
    I don't know if many of you follow Tony (@GolfSpyT) on twitter but he's been blowing it up with the golf ball test. Needless to say, this test is going to really help in golf ball selection and prove that there are some SIGNIFICANT differences in golf balls out there. I, for one, find this test more useful for my game than the most wanted putter or driver. Look at the iron test...this is average carry and dispersion (sorry, I'm trying to figure out how to embed his charts on twitter): https://twitter.com/GolfSpyT/status/1114139033238736897 You have one golf ball carrying 189...and another 203.5!! 14 yard difference...that's an entire club! In other tweets, he mentions: The fastest golf ball off the driver (115mph swing speed) is the Snell MTB X. There's also a 5.5mph difference in golf balls among fast driver speeds (115mph)...that's a huge difference in carry yardage given all the other launch variables are consistent. Some of the golf balls are flying 40yds offline off the driver...and this is a robot swinging the club. Even with a perfect swing, your golf ball could cause you to miss the fairway...tell me if that doesn't mess with your head. Also, he's mentioned a lot about playing just one ball and sticking to it. While I never really thought about it, after seeing the charts he's posted, I'm ready to make a 6 dozen purchase of whatever ball fits my game and play it only from here on out. Case in point: I used to switch from TP5X in the spring/summer/fall months to a Snell MTB Black in the winter time but then when I would switch back to the TP5X, all my approach shots were flying the green. All my carry yardages, especially on the irons, had to be retrained. Thanks MGS...and thanks Tony for posting these snippets on twitter.
  18. 26 points
    Testers ANNOUNCED! The four forum members who will be testing the new version of the Evnroll ER2 will be: @ncwoz @KurtActual @Tsmithjr9 @Wedgie Full announcement found here. ____________________________ A few years ago before they were a household name Evnroll burst onto the scene with a win in the Most Wanted putting category. Then another win and then a succesful forum testing a couple years ago, and well now they are more of a household name, and still winning awards. So we and the folks at Evnroll thought it was time for another forum testing. And boy is this one a doozy! Without a doubt one of the most popular heads for Evnroll has been the No. 2. Now with it being available in the popular trendy murdered out black, you can only imagine the demand for this beauty. But four trusted members will get to see and hold first hand this newest version of the 2. To enter as potential tester just follow the below instructions. This testing is available to Right Hand golfers who live in the US In a separate post DO NOT QUOTE THIS POST provide the following information. First Name/State Current Putter Used Handicap We'll select the testers next week, so be sure to keep an eye on this thread to find out if you've been selected. Good Luck!!
  19. 26 points
    So Penny’s prom date got injured and had surgery today. I filled in and was her date. I have to say that the kids were great, the teacher chaperones first class, I wasn’t keen on the music. This is what my daughter looks like at her best. She was a delightful date. Had a wonderful time. Other than the music and more tattoos it could have been my prom from 45 years ago.? Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
  20. 25 points
    My Congregation threw a party in honor of the 25th anniversary of my ordination today. It was a blast! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
  21. 25 points
    Time for a job change! I gave my two-weeks notice last week, and will start my new job on the 22nd. I was covering 8 States for a company and the income wasn’t justifying being away from my family so much, so this new job will have me closer to home, with only a night or two out a week. The other days I’ll be home each evening. I’m very blessed, and SO thankful!!! I am looking forward to this new adventure!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
  22. 25 points
    Ping Long Game/Gap Testing - Stage 1 Hey MGS! I’m Josh, aka mr.hicksta, and like many others around here, I’m a golf junkie! I’m an active duty Navy officer and I have been playing golf for the 19+ years I’ve been serving. I'm extremely grateful to MGS and Ping for the opportunity to test some fantastic clubs and I'm excited to share the experience with the forum! Since fall of 2015 I have been able to practice and play consistently and my overall game is the best it has ever been as a result. Now it is certainly not perfect, but I feel like it is pretty well rounded given the amount of time I put into improving. On the course, I like to keep things light and try not to take this game so seriously despite my sometimes gruff exterior. I get hard on myself from time to time, but I aim to be a person that others would like to play with regularly and I feel like I’ve done a good job of that. As for this crazy game, I love it because it mirrors life in a lot of ways. I like to say you could play the same course for 10 days straight and it would be different every time! With my current setup I’ve tinkered with the driver and putter, but nothing else has changed. The FW spot is easily the most fluid spot in my bag and has been a source of frustration for years. My hybrid has been one of my most consistent clubs and my 4i is spotty. To give readers a better idea of my gapping at the top of my bag, check out the spreadsheet below that is from my ‘Golf Equipment’ tracker (#golfnerdalert). Club Loft Length Lie Offset Shaft Weight SW Torque Shaft Distances Cobra F9 Speedback 9º 45" 57.5º 70g D0 3.6 ACCRA TZ5 65 M4 250-290 Ping G410 3W 14.5º 43" 56.5º 76g D2 4 Tensei CK Blue 70 S 230-250 Ping G410 2H 18.5º 40.75" 57º 79g D2 3.1 Tensei CK Pro Blue 80 S 210-230 Ping G410 4 Crossover 23º 39.25" 59.9º 0.18 79g D2 3.1 Tensei CK Pro Blue 80 S 200-220 Epon AF-505 5i 25º 38" 61º 3.4 124g D3 1.5 Modus³ Tour130 S 190-200 Based on overall looks and the performance I’ve seen so far, I am a fan of the G410 lineup! Below are the blurbs directly from Ping on what each club brings to the table. Buzzwords and tech jargon aside, I can confirm that these faces are HOT, I’m finding all of them to be quite forgiving and I’m seeing distances I was not seeing with my old clubs. My current handicap is 11.5, trending to 11.3. I truly believe if my long game was more consistent I would easily be in the single digits, and I mention this because long term I’m hoping these clubs help me do just that! I’m not a high speed player, but I have an aggressive tempo (meathead issues). This video is my driver swing face on, which should give you an idea of how I move the ball around the course. With that beautiful swing, my typical ball flight is mid to high and my miss lately has been a nasty snap hook. I’d say my current strengths are above average distance off the tee, decent iron player and good putting. My weaknesses are inconsistency off the tee, and the constant struggle to avoid letting old swing habits creep in. As for my typical use of my long game clubs, I regularly use my FW and hybrid off the tee especially if it’s a tight fairway. For longer approaches, I gravitate to my hybrid even if it means I’ll be coming up short as it’s a club I’m very comfortable with. G410 FW: “Powered by a forged, maraging steel face, the G410 fairway woods are engineered to launch the ball easily and deliver faster ball speeds on a penetrating trajectory that maximizes distance. A shallower face and efficient CG placement elevate MOI for tighter dispersion.” My take - This FW is a forgiving distance machine! G410 Hybrid: “Our first-ever adjustable hybrid allows you to customize your ball flight eight different ways through more loft (+- 1.5˚) and lie combinations for consistently better results. Thinner and more flexible, the maraging-steel face generates faster ball speeds and higher launch so you carry trouble while hitting (and holding) more greens. A larger profile provides added stability and helps elevate MOI heel to toe.” My take - Added adjustability in an already pleasing shape makes this one of the most versatile hybrids available. G410 Crossover: “With a heavier tungsten toe weight for added forgiveness, a maraging-steel face for faster ball speed and max shot height, and a more compact and stable head, PING’s third Crossover family combines the precision and control of an iron with the speed and forgiveness of a hybrid.” My take - This club is forgiving, unlike most long irons! Oh and did I mention the face is hot? More on that later! And finally, here are some pics of these beautiful clubs courtesy of my talented wife! So what’s next? Between now and Stage 2, I plan on getting more time with my new long game setup, focusing on how they help my long game. I will also be posting about the fitting experience to include what all was discussed, how we determined this setup was right for me and more! Additionally, I’ll be getting some Trackman time and will post those results to give readers more detail on how the G410 FW/hybrid/Crossover line performs. Finally, and most importantly, I will be working to determine whether or not the G410 clubs will be in my bag long term. They’re in there without competition right now, but we’ll see what the numbers and on course performance have to say about that!
  23. 25 points
    Its Finallyyyyyy Timeeeee!!!!! Welcome everyone! The first thing I want to do it is thank MGS and Cobra for letting me be a part of this incredible challenge. Being a high handicapper, I wasn’t sure I’d get an opportunity like this but I know there others out there like me, so I’m hoping I can be of service to you. My name is Bradley, I’m 29 and I live just north of Atlanta. I’m married and we have two pups, one of which is my profile pic, and we have a 7 month old little girl who is my pride and joy. Warning: Adorable kid pic incoming: I’ve been golfing a year and a half or so now. My first round ever was at my in-laws Thanksgiving “Turkey Open” family scramble where I played for fun with my brother-in-law and father-in-law. It was a blast, I was terrible, but I had so much fun that I’ve never looked back. Here are my current gamer clubs: Driver: Cobra F7 - Aldila 2KNV Stiff shaft Irons: Taylormade Rocketbladez Stiff 4-PW Wedges: Bridgestone Tour B XW-1 52º / 56º / 60º So hows my golf game? Yeah it’s okay, I try to not be too hard on myself being pretty new to the game but I am a perfectionist and I hate being bad at anything. I recently joined a club that is well known to be the hardest course in the immediate area. This was intentional because I want to be better at the game. I play the blues which sit at a 72.8 / 136 and 6,600 yards long. It’s probably way too tough for me. My first round I shot a 113, since then I’ve come back down and currently my average score is around a 102. I have yet to break 100 at my new course in a full 18 hole round. That being said its teaching me the premium of keeping the ball in play as the rough is extremely punishing on most holes and it forces me to play shots I never would have before. Here’s my baseline stats with my pre-cobra gamers. I am the epitome of the high handicapper golfer, inconsistent ball striking with some good shots sprinkled in. I 3 putt sometimes, sometimes I don’t. I hit a power slice when my Driver isn't working, but overall the biggest problem with my golf game is inconsistency with my irons. Pretty standard stuff and if you’re over an 18 handicap everything I am saying here probably resonates with you. Some more details: Driving wise, you can see my average dispersion is only 20 yards, but I have a big time two way miss, I’ve been holding back on the tee lately in an effort to hit fairways more and lose less balls. The problem is that gives me a 4 or 5 iron into alot of the greens. Here’s my usage chart on my clubs from arccos: You can see that leaving myself short off the tee means my 4 and 5 iron are used more than anything else. I almost never am in range to use a scoring club to get to the green reliably. Because of this, my approach stats show what I already know is the truth, I'm short alot... Short, short, short. Left and right aren’t nearly the issue here. Its thinning and chunking long irons that cause all the problems. As you can see a lot of my approach shots are 30 yards or more short of the green, which means I’m constantly hitting short pitches into the green and trying to save par. With my handicap I don’t mind missing greens, I expect it, the real problem is the distance I’m leaving everything short. It makes chipping or pitching anything close very difficult. The greens I play on are really fast, I know everyone says that, but they are the fastest I have played in my limited time golfing and pitching from 30+ yards often leaves me far away from the pin. If I’m greenside but off the fringe and I can’t putt it, I do fairly well. When I move the slider in, I’m averaging 6 to 8 ft from 15 yards and in on chipping, The problem is that only 11% of my baseline chips are inside 15 yards… Sand.... I’m a 22 handicap, the only beach I do well on has a chair and a cooler full of beer on it, not a golf ball. Seriously though, I leave sand shots short primarily, I’m always scared of sending them over the green or thinning them. Most of the time I can get out in one, but I do have the occasional 3-peat to get out of a high lipped trap. On to The Fun Part That was a lot, you guys still with me? I saved the best part for last. First let’s hit the high notes and walk through what my fitting revealed and the clubs I chose: The Bag: Driver: F9 9º Degree head, Evenflow White T1100 X Stiff Woods: 3/4 Wood, Evenflow White T1100 X Stiff Hybrid: 3 Hybrid, Aldila 2KNV Green X Stiff Irons: One Length F9’s 4-PW, Modus3 Tour 105’s Stiff Wedges: King Black Wedges in 50º / 54º / 58º Bag: Black / Black Stand Bag (I freaking love this thing) Fitting Overview: So I saw a cobra fitter, without going into too much detail. I swing hard and put a lot of torque on the butt of my clubs shaft. So he selected shafts for me that basically have no butt end and pretty much demanded that I go with X Stiff in all my woods and hybrids to prevent whipping and increase control. He also suggested that I go with a D4 swing weight on my irons, especially if I was going one length because of my size, he was concerned that I’d get too loose and wouldn’t be able to control the clubs if they weighed in at their stock D0 swing weight. My irons and wedges are also 1 inch longer than standard and the grips are like +4 wraps or something, which is an adjustment, but they do feel a lot better to hold. I also went with a 3 hybrid and a 3 wood. My 4 iron is typically right around 200 yards. So I need some extra distance to recover from poor tee shots or hit long 2nd shots into par 5’s. So I went with the 3 Hybrid hoping for a 215-235 club and a 3 wood for something just over that, 230 - 260 or so would be great. We have a few tight par 4’s that require a limited tee shot and a little more control than a driver usually gives me. So I’m hoping I can hit those fairways a little more consistently with these clubs. BUT WHY ONE LENGTHS?!?!?! I hear all of you screaming, I’m the only one length tester in this crew. Cobra swears these things work. They have a lot of tech in them to make them work. Progressive shaft weighting to make the same shaft work and gapping consistent, Wider soles in the 4-6 irons to help with launch and trajectory on top of all of the standard F9 features like Progressive Hosel lengths, E9 Pwrshell face, etc... You get it. You read everyone else’s intros too. What you really want to know is do these things work? Can a high handicapper like myself really be more consistent just because all of his irons are the same length. You’ve seen my approach stats, you know I need something to help me. I chose them because I want to eliminate some variables. I think too much as it is on the course. Take away ball position and swing changes due to shaft length and I think I can improve my consistency. I really feel like that is all that’s left in my game to take me from a 20+ index to a mid handicapper. Whats it gonna take for them to stay? My old set isn't exactly nice, but one thing I have with them is consistent gapping. My old wedges are great, I hit them well when I get to hit them, My driver might not be the most accurate, but when I have good days with it, I have really really good days. For the Cobras to hang around, what I really need to see is consistency throughout the bag. I need my driver dispersion to be tighter and preferably limited to a one way miss, I obviously need consistent contact with the One length irons, since thats kind of the point. The wedges have the most to live up too as the XW-1's I reviewed are very good, but the lower lofts have to help with gapping and consistency. It would be nice to be able to use that 58º reliably. I know, thats a lot to ask of the arrow, but I feel like I'm close to being a better golfer and I'm hoping these clubs can help mitigate some bad habits I have and get me shooting the scores that I feel like I should be. Lets make it rain with questions folks, especially with regards to the One Lengths, I'll do my best to answer everything I can.
  24. 25 points
    OFFICIAL MGS FORUM REVIEW -BETTINARDI STUDIO STOCK #38 ARMLOCK PUTTER Stage 1 - Tester Introduction 4-15-2019 by GB13 I'd like to start off by thanking MGS and Bettinardi for the wonderful opportunity! I've was super excited to be selected for this test, and want to do my best to give y'all a killer review! INTRO I was lucky enough to do a review on True Golf Fit and Global Golf's U-Try program last year, so if you want to learn a little bit more about me personally, you can check it out here. (These reviews are a great read too, if you haven't checked them out already.) My bag hasn't changed too much since my TGF review. Obviously the Wilson C300 was added, and I also added a Callaway Rogue 3W and removed the Aeroburner 3W. I'm still a 4 handicap who is terribly inconsistent, (although I am improving with some swing changes). If I can get my putter to cooperate, I should be really close to scratch. Anyway, the club we need to focus on is the putter. I currently putt with a PING Sigma G B60 putter. It was 34" and standard lie. It's been in my bag for almost 2 years, and if I hadn't been selected for this test, it could have easily stayed for another 2 years. (Maybe, I'm kind of a club ho...) My putting is really streaky, (read: inconsistent). I usually hit a high number of greens per round (11-13), and end up leaving myself a lot of tough two putts. This puts my average putts around 32-34. In rounds where I miss more greens, my putting average is around 26-28. As you can see my putting stats can be very deceiving, so I wouldn't put too much stock into my putts per round. I'd focus more on whether or not my speed and line improve. While using the B60, I putted left hand low, with a quick tempo, and waaaaay too much wrist hinge. I chose the B60 because it fit my quick tempo and had 40°ish toe hang. I'm hoping to slow down my tempo and remove the wrist hinge with the armlock technique. My putting strategy is pretty aggressive. My goal is normally 2 feet past the hole. However, unfortunately, my goal and my reality is not the same. My speed is inconsistent at best and usually I end up leaving too many putts short. This is usually caused by an off-center hit. Then, later in the round, I overcompensate, hit one out of the center, and hit the putt 10 feet past the hole. To summarize this paragraph, my speed is extremely inconsistent. I usually start the ball on the line I want to. I putt with a line on my golf ball and just align the putter to the line. For me, it really allows me to focus on speed, and treat it like a straight putt. All I have to do is put a good stroke on it. I don't intend to change this with the armlock. What I do hope to change, is that pesky making a good stroke part... I make a lot of putts at 8-10 feet and am extremely confident from the 8-10 foot range. I really struggle with 3-5 footers. I know I should make most of them, but I just don't have the confidence standing over the ball that I'm going to make it. I'd rather have a 10 footer than a 4 footer, that is how bad I am putting from close range. Otherwise, I'd say I'm a pretty average putter from outside 15 all the way out to lags. One of my goals with the armlock is to get some sort of consistency from 3-5 feet, while not compromising the rest of my putting. INITIAL IMPRESSIONS First off, this putter is BEAUTIFUL! Bettinardi did a great job making a visually appealing mid mallet. Mid-Mallets (to me) are usually chunky and just ugly. Bettinardi shortened the heel-toe length and the SS#38 has a surprisingly small footprint. Bettinardi always nails the small details that set their putters above and beyond the competition, and the SS#38 is no exception. From the deep etch grip, to the premium milled face, to the classic graphics on the sole, every part of this putter has a premium feel and look. Now, you'll probably think I'm crazy for adding an entire paragraph for a headcover, but I just need to mention how nice and classy the graphics are. Bettinardi does have a reputation for their limited edition headcovers. I've almost always found their limited run headcovers, obnoxious. Bettinardi has definitely not made an obnoxious headcover here. It is actually quite simple blue with white accents, and an American flag. Super classy. Bettinardi is billing the SS#38 Armlock as "compact mallet with maximum forgiveness and easy alignment..." and having "20% deeper grooves for an even softer feel at impact." Does the SS#38 live up to what Bettinardi says? I'm not convinced yet, but I've only begun to get know my new Betti. I ordered my Betti at 41", 6° of loft, and with a 72° lie angle. The stock model is 40", 5° of loft, and 71° lie angle. I went longer because I'm 6'2". I went with the higher loft because of the armlock technique, which requires a lot of forward press. And, I went with the more upright lie angle, well, because I putt with the shaft more upright. I'm super intrigued by the armlock putting style. It has been gaining a lot of traction on tour, and as we know, our games perfectly mirror tour pros. Kidding aside, I'm really hoping to end up with a more repeatable putting stroke, that can start the ball online with decent speed. I'm trying to grip the putter fairly "conventionally" just with the putter grip/shaft running up my left forearm. After I grip the putter, my goal is to just rock my shoulders. I'm trying to keep it simple, and not over complicate things. So far, my results have been mixed. I've been able to get a great end over end roll, with decent speed, however I'm struggling to get the proper alignment. Not only has the armlock technique opened my shoulders at set up, this putter has a full shaft of offset, and sets up open to my eye. When I first tried the armlock, it was really uncomfortable. This is not a technique that you will have a quick adjustment period to. I've been hitting around 500 putts on my putting green everyday, and about 2 weeks after first receiving my Betti, I'm just starting to get comfortable with my set up. CONCLUSION If you got bored halfway through reading that (heck, I probably would have too), here is the summary: I previously putted left hand low with a PING Sigma G B60. I have a quick tempo and lots of wrist hinge. My speed is inconsistent, but I'm pretty good on hitting my line. I'm looking to improve on my short putts while retaining my performance long putts. Bettinardi created a beautiful premium putter. I'm struggling to adjust to the armlock, but am improving every day. My goals, and what ultimately drove me to switch to armlock are; -Better speed control -Eliminate wrist hinge -Slow down my tempo -Help on short putts -And to MAKE MORE PUTTS If any of the above goals aren't met, it will be tough for me to keep the SS#38 in the bag. As of right now, I'd say the odds are 50/50 that it gets a "permanent" spot in my bag. My testing has come to a screeching halt with this lovely mid-April snowstorm, however, you can expect plenty of updates from me until the stage 2s drop. Again, I'd like to thank Bettinardi and MGS for this opportunity and providing us an place where we can write unbiased reviews! Y'all are awesome!
  25. 24 points
    I have always been fascinated by the science of golf, particularly the fitting aspects. I always wondered if my equipment was truly optimized for me and how I could ever figure out if it was. Over the last two years, I’ve dove head first into understanding more about golf equipment and the fitting process. My main source of information has been Ian Fraser and the Tour Experience Golf (TXG) youtube channel. Ian is a veteran of the golf industry who worked his way up in TaylorMade, then went onto work for True Spec golf, until Ian finally created TXG. TXG HQ is located in Toronto, Canada and is, alongside True Spec, one of the premier golf equipment fitters in the world. As Ian began to grow his youtube channel, I started interacting with him more, I became a Patreon Supporter to get additional access to him and his team outside of the youtube videos. I loved Ian’s approach to fitting and just how knowledgeable he was about everything. Our own Golfspy CG2 made the trek up to Toronto for a fitting he raved about the experience (and we got to watch most of it on the TXG youtube channel). I spoke to my wife and she agreed that for my 40th birthday (in 2024), we would go to Toronto and I could get a full bag fitting from Ian and I would be set on my equipment for a long long time. To hold me over until, I used things I learned from Ian, as well as direct recommendations from him, to build my current set. I felt like it was a good fit - but I still didn’t have that peace of mind from being properly fit from someone as knowledgeable as Ian. Well, it turns out I didn’t have to wait that long at all for a tour-quality fitting experience. I won the True Spec PGA Championship contest on Instagram, and with that came a free full bag fitting (everything but the putter) at a True Spec location of my choosing. The closest location to me is one of their flagship stores in New York City, so I called and made the appointment for June 7th. Knowing Ian had worked at True Spec, I contacted him and asked about what should expect and who I could potentially be fit by at the NYC location. He mentioned that he was good friends with one of their top fitters in NYC, Loren David. I contacted True Spec to ask who would be performing my fitting and they confirmed it was Loren. I was stoked. I knew that this would be one of the best golf experiences of my life. But it wasn’t one of the best - it was THE best. Fast forward to June 7th. I pack up my clubs, some sports drinks, and some trail mix and board the train for NYC. When I arrived at Penn Station, the weather was absolutely perfect so rather than get a cab, I walked to True Spec. I got some pretty funny looks as I traversed the concrete jungle with my Sun Mountain on my back, but being in New York there were far more interesting people walking around to take the attention away from me. I was going into this fitting with an open mind. I wasn't looking to replace anything in my bag just for the sake of getting something new. It was all about performance. When I arrived at True Spec, I took a deep breath and walked through the door. I was politely greeted by the receptionist and led to my hitting bay where I was told I could warm up until Loren arrived. When Loren arrived he introduced himself and we began small talk as he began setting up the GC Quad and his software. He asked about my game, my clubs, and what I hoped to get out everything today. I had to drop that I had been interacting with his good buddy Ian for almost two years now and what I had in my bag was in large part to the knowledge I gained from him. I mentioned that I had received the G410 Plus through MyGolfSpy and Loren said he knew Adam as well. Throughout the fitting, I learned that Loren knows just about EVERYBODY in the golf business. Ian Fraser, Adam Beach, Will Peoples, etc. If I named someone, Loren had a connection. We were also watching the ShopRite LPGA event on the TV during my fitting and Loren was rooting on some of his favorite players. I come to learn that he personally has fitted many of them since their high school and college days. We talked about Maria Fassi and her incredible swing and how he has worked with her for many years and thinks she will dominate the tour very soon. These types of conversations almost made me pinch myself. Here is a guy that fits professionals, top amateurs, celebrities and professionals from other sports (he fit former New York Yankee Mark Teixeira earlier in the week), and now he is going to fit me? Just crazy. So now, onto the good stuff - the actual fitting. Loren explained the process: we’d start with irons, then moving into gapping and the driver, and then finish with wedges. He asked if I had any preferences and I said that I was open to anything, but no Callaway products (that discussion is for another day). I hit my 6 irons enough so he could see my numbers and patterns and asked what I’d like out of my irons. I immediately answered “more consistency”. He agreed that I didn’t need any more distance and we would focus on precision and consistency. He went and grabbed 5 heads from the drawer and the Modus 120x shaft so we could start our fitting. We started with the Modus shaft in all of the heads because he knew I was familiar with how the shaft would feel throughout the swing, so it would help us identify which heads to focus on. The heads that he chose for me were the Srixon 785, Ping Blueprint, TaylorMade P760, Mizuno 919 Tour and Mizuno MP18 MMC. I started with the Srixon 785 and while it was good, it was very similar to the 765 and we just didn’t see anything that jumped out at us. The Ping Blueprint was next and man this was such a great looking and feeling iron - but boy was it small. I actually hit it pretty well, but it has such a sharp leading edge and the poor turf interaction was leading to inconsistent strikes. The Mizuno MMC put ups om great ballspeed numbers, but the slightly wider sole was not a good match for my extremely shallow angle of attack. We followed that up with the Mizuno 919 Tour and started seeing some much more consistent shots. Contact was better, and the 919 Tour advanced to the next round. The P760 had similar results, so it made it to the next round as well. Now that we were narrowed down to two heads, it was time to try some different shafts. Loren went to his irons shaft stash and brought back a Rifle 6.0, KBS $ Taper X, and an Oban CT 115 S and X. We tried every shaft in the 919 head first and it was pretty clear that the Oban shaft was going to be the one. I really loved the feel of the shaft and I could go after with without turning over left as much as with the other shafts. We tried the S flex as well, but while I seemed to get a bit more ballspeed with it, I lost some of the precision I had with the X flex. We then tried the P760 in the Oban shaft and the numbers just couldn’t match up with what I was putting out with the 919/Oban combination. Loren explained to me how Oban shafts were constructed, and their unique composition allowed for more precise weighting and frequencies (a club builders dream). They also allowed for more flex options. Oban offers an S, S+, X-, and X. Loren recommended that I go with the X- as it would give me the stability and precision I was seeing with the X, but a little more feel and ballspeed that I was seeing in the S. I was pretty damn excited. He took my final setup and went over to the loft/lie machine and bent the clubhead. I hit a few more shots and the consistency improved even more. He wen’t slightly flatter and stronger. Loren mentioned that because I have such a shallow delivery with the irons, he’d want to strengthen the lofts so that I would have 3 degree gaps in the long irons, 4 degree gaps in the mid irons, and 5 degree gaps in the scoring irons and wedges. After my fitting I was reading up on this and it turns out a lot of tour pros with shallower attack angles have their irons bent strong (Jason Day and Rory McIlroy to name a pair). Normally a customer would have hit driver next, but Loren wanted to see how the top of my bag progressed coming off the irons, so I hit my Srixon u65 Next. He commented that the 4 iron was an extremely situational club for me and he could see me benefiting from getting the 4ron in the 919 Tours, but then also sticking with the u65 4 iron and then swapping them out for one another depending on how my swing progressed (if I got a bit steeper) and how I wanted to utilize the 4 iron on a particular course (utility iron off the tee on shorter, tighter holes). The U65 was giving me good numbers across the board, so he felt comfortable sticking with that rather than going for a hybrid. The 212 carry also gave me a great yardage gap between my 5 iron and my hybrid. Speaking of the hybrid, when he pulled it out and handed to me, I said that this is truly the first hybrid I have had that I actually don’t dread hitting. I proceeded to absolutely pure six straight shots. Loren simply shook my head and said “there’s nothing we can do to give you a better club than that”. 147 MPH ball speed,14.6 launch, 3945 spin with 232 yards of carry. Baby draws. We switched out to the 3 wood next. I explained that I build the 3 wood and driver but putting everything I’ve learned about my swing and about fitting through Ian into these clubs and shafts. After 5 shots with my 3 wood, Loren said we would be wasting time and energy trying to find a better 3 wood for me. 153.2 MPH ball speed, 12.7 launch, 3489 spin, 249 yards of carry off the deck. Baby draws. With little time wasted, it was onto the big stick. As many of you have read in the forum review thread, I am in love with my Ping G410 Plus driver. I was curious to find out if what I thought I was seeing on the course was real. This was all about validation, and if it wasn’t validated. Well - after just 5 swings, we had validation. I was pumping out baby draw bombs with the G410 Plus. I went into the day thinking maybe I’d be better off with the LST head, or another driver altogether (Cobra F9 or TaylorMade M5 perhaps?) Well they didn’t even get a shot. Loren commented that he loved the Accra shaft I had in the G410 as I seemed to be timing it perfectly without much effort. When we looked at the data, all of the numbers were just about as optimal as you could get. 162.6 MPH ball speed, 14.3 launch, 1641 Spin, 298 yards of carry. Those are insane numbers for me. I knew I was seeing some bombs on the course, and these numbers validated why. We really liked this driver for me because while the spin was low, that was when I was hitting it slightly higher on the face so the spin would tend to drop naturally. If I tried to go to a lower spin driver, the spin would have been too low to provide a stable and consistent ball flight. This doesn’t mean I constantly carry it 298 (my normal carry is probably closer to 285 now), but my current driver gives me the perfect blend of forgiveness, spin, dispersion and ball speed, and the ability to really nuke one if I catch it right. Loren told me that I am in the less than 1% of people that he has fit that didn’t need even tweak the smallest setting on the driver or 3 wood. That was pretty cool to hear. He did mention that the swing weight on my driver was kind of heavy and I could shorten the driver to 44.75 to bring it down to 4.5, and that I wouldn’t really lose anything performance wise, but might gain a little more consistency. Once I got done admiring my driver numbers it was on to wedges. I mentioned that the wedge shafts I had were installed to match a previous set of irons I had, and I really felt that I was lacking in consistency with my wedges. We talked about different wedge shafts and adding more weight and he went and grabbed three wedge shafts: KBS 610 125, DG Tour Issue S400 and Modus 125 Wedge. With all of the wedge shafts I felt a much better weighting throughout the swing. The profile of the KBS didn’t really jive with me as it almost felt like I was swinging a sledgehammer - a little too heavy. The S400 felt better, but I just wasn’t timing it right and my ball speeds and carry distances were down. The Modus 125s were the perfect combination of weight and feel and really helped me deliver my club head more consistently. This was the one. Loren and I talked again about my shallow delivery, bounce, and lie angle and we settled on a 50 (bent to 49), 54, 60 (bent to 59) setup with slightly flatter than standard lie angles. The last thing we talked about was grips. At some point during my fitting I had mentioned that I have smaller hands, and while a standard grip feels great in my left hand, my bottom (right) hand always felt like I was having to really squeeze harder to get a good handle on the club. We walked over to one of the drawers and he pulled out the Tour Velvet Plus 4 grip and it just felt fantastic. I was able to put my right hand on the club much more naturally and with much less tension. Perfect. My head was spinning from all of the information shared with me throughout the day and I was probably grinning like an idiot the entire way home on the train. By the time I arrived home, I received my fitting summaries from Loren, as well as my fitting “prescription” and a full quote to have True Spec build everything for me. Loren was a class act from start to finish. He's one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet and his knowledge of the golf swing and attention to the detail during the fitting were more than I could have ever hoped for. It was truly a privilege to be fit by him. My wife and I went out to dinner that night and I walked her through my fitting and how it was the best golf experience of my life. She knew that if I ever god a proper fitting like this, my club-hoing days would be over. So that night we placed the order. Much to my surprised, I received an email from True Spec and FedEx on June 18th, less than 11 days after my fitting, that my clubs had been shipped. They arrived on Thursday, June 20th - less than two weeks after my fitting. Just unbelievable customer services right there. The presentation of the club in the True Spec box was top notch, just like the rest of the experience. I put my new clubs in my bag and just started at my entire setup. For the first time in my life, I had zero doubts about my equipment. No questions about fit. No worrying that I was leaving performance on the table. And I tell you what - it is a pretty incredible feeling. This fitting journey started with me learning more about my swing through my instructor, learning about equipment from MyGolfSpy, learning about the science of the swing and fitting through Ian Fraser at TXG, and culminated by getting fit by one of the top club fitters in the world in Loren David at True Spec NYC. I am truly grateful for everyone that played a part in getting my bag to where it is today. No more equipment excuses. It’s time to play some golf.
  26. 24 points
    So here's the short of it. I'll try to check in later with more detail. I shot 86 that could've easily been 80. Doesn't matter what shots were left out there because that's always the case. Ended up tied for first and they sent us out for a playoff hole. I had a 20 footer for par that lipped out He made a 7 footer for par to win Second place is still really good and actually pays out. He earned it and he's a good dude so I'm happy for his win.
  27. 24 points
    Stage One – Bettinardi SS38 Armlock - 4/15/19 My sincere thanks to MyGolfSpy and Bettinardi Golf for the opportunity to review this Armlock platform. Rather than bore you all over again with my story, I'll just leave this link to my Ping G400 LST review intro from last year - Stage 1 - Ping G400 LST If you'd rather not click through: (the short story) despite a very serious and time intensive approach to the game over the past 25 years, with age and hopefully increasing wisdom, it has become clear that truly having fun on the golf course was both an essential and missing ingredient from my experience. Don't get me wrong, I still _love_ winning, but have discovered it's personally a flawed foundation to build upon when the subject is playing my best golf. If you're interested WITB, my signature is up to date - all have spots for one reason... they work. My body (and life in general) no longer allow me to bang 500 balls a day, so I spend the majority of my time at the short game complex. I really enjoy working on all areas of the short game and my stat lines in that area are typically tidy. But the subject today is putting - more specifically Armlock putting (of which I am insanely curious). What the heck is Armlock putting? I'm glad you asked - it involves using a longish putter intended to take your hands/wrists out of the stroke via a design that intentionally "locks" the handle against your lead forearm. Why do I need an Armlock putter to take those body parts out of the equation? Another excellent question - technically you don't need an Armlock putter to neutralize their potential movement in your stroke...but it makes the task much easier. Why is important to neutralize those body parts? Many people actually don't think it matters much, but I disagree with those folks and I will explain further in Stage 2. I have not always been a good putter. In fact, I used to be a terrible putter or at the very least terribly inconsistent. Through High School my stroke was super handsy, some days it worked fine and others like I had never putted before. The stroke improved greatly in College but it was still pretty sad how close to the hole I was usually thinking "just don't 3-putt". I went through 4 putters over that stretch, all toe hanger blades. In 2004, I was introduced the concept of high-MOI faced balanced mallets. In my case, it was in the form of a center shafted Macgregor Bobby Grace V-Foil M5K GT. And it opened up a whole new world. It's been my gamer ever since, despite going toe-to-toe against 25-30 different face balanced mallets over the past 15 years. The M5K just won't go away. Let's talk a bit more in depth about my stroke - specifically path and face rotation. I adopted a straight back-through path in College. The face opens 1.5 degrees in my back stroke and is typically within 0.5 degrees of square (in relation to line) at impact. I'd say my tempo is somewhere in the middle of the road - not hurried but not really slow either. It's probably a combination of the M5K being a great putter for my tendencies, the experience of gaming it for over a decade and my love for practice, but I do not know anyone that putts better. Last season I played a stretch of 96 holes without a 3-putt. And there are also a few Spies that can additionally attest to the M5K's affinity for dropping bomb after bomb. Alright, thanks for staying through all the background, but I know you really came to hear about the Bettinardi SS 38 Armlock. Mine happens to be 40” long with a 71 degree lie angle and 3 degrees of loft. I say happens to be but those are actually the specs for which I was fit at my local Club Champion. I am of the opinion that being fit for your putter is important. And since this was my first real foray with the Armlock concept, I put myself in Mitch's (Manager - Club Champion Highlands Ranch) capable hands. First we confirmed my stroke stats with the M5K and then started comparing results with the Bettinardi Armlock putters they have in inventory. Almost all of my putters are set up with a 71 degree lie angle and 3 degrees of loft (2 degree of loft at impact is my ideal for USGA qualifier green speeds). At the end of my SAM Puttlab session, I was surprised to learn that my Armlock loft/lie specs were identical to my current gamers (more on why they matched and why I was surprised in Stage 2). Now let's dive into technical aspects of the SS38 Armlock with some putter porn. Bettinardi's packaging is both secure and classy. The deep etched blue cord grip (a Lamkin specialty product) is 15 inches long and feels firm, tacky and of a quality that will last for decades. I think Bettinardi has one of the cooler shaft band labels in the biz and the SS38 head is easy to sole squarely. 303 Stainless Steel is on the hard end of the metal spectrum from which putters are typically made and to soften up the face (and probably also improve the impact sound), Bettinardi milled some seriously deep grooves into the face. The top and face are both a matte gray finish but the polish can still shine back a bit under the right light (read: high noon). The sole is a much higher polish with a classy arrangement and paint fill, as is typical of Bettinardi. It's important to regularly check for cavities and also instructive to see the before/after of the rear cavity view to highlight how Bettinardi bumped up MOI on the relatively compact SS38 mallet. It's not quite face balanced (Mitch called it an eighther - roughly 10 degree toe hang) What does all this mean to me? Well, I'm intrigued but not certain of anything at the moment. Except that I intend to roll at least 200 putts a day on different practice greens (and a lot more dry fires in the living room sans golf ball) until I can conclusively determine what (if any) effect an anchored handle has on my path/face rotation, feel for pace and overall putting stats. In my experience feel -vs- reality can sometimes present an astonishing disparity, so I intend to continue analyzing and updating with video throughout the review process. Thanks again for reading and please reach out in the review thread if you have any specific questions or additional testing requests.
  28. 23 points
    Yo gang - The rest of the staff already said everything that needs to be said, but that's never stopped me before Thank you all for making this forum such a great place to call home. Your character, humor and love of the game make all our jobs not only easy but a hell of a lot of fun. I enjoyed my tie as one of the forum directors, and I'll tell you what, the job Rob, STUD, Stroker and MPR are doing is way, WAY beyond anything our group could have ever come up with. You really should see the behind the scenes discussions these guys have - it's truly next level stuff. I've been lucky enough to play with a batch of you guys over the years - @fozcycle, @revkev, @HighFade, @MattF and others (I'm sorry if I've forgotten you - I'm old, it happens) - and I hope to tee it up with more of you in my travels. This place would be nowhere without you, and I"m really proud to be a part of it - even if I don't get on here as much as I used to. On behalf of the folks in the Head Shed in Yorktown, thank you for a fantastic 10 years, and personally, thank you for a great 8 years!
  29. 23 points
    i think this sums it up very well. I still go on WRX,....obvisouly not near the amount I did before joining MGS, but I like to keep track of what the competing sites are doing. Well at least them, I don't so much worry about the third one. WRX does indeed have a large knowledgeable membership. However, the one thing I have witnessed first hand and heard many times, is it's not the most welcoming of sites to newer golfers or members who have a differing opinion. I think that's THE absolute best thing about the membership here, you guys value everyone's opinion, whether it's a scratch golfer or a brand new player who shoots 110. There truly is no class system here. And of course the full honest unbiased opinions on the member reviews is something you don't see much of on the other sites. If something works well, they will say so, if something isn't great, they will say so in a very constructive but yet honest way. I do love how MGS is becoming more well known then perhaps the other two. On a side note, the Wilson Rep just left my shop this morning, I've known him for 15 years, but he somehow didn't know my role with MGS. When I mentioned it, he got very excited saying Wilson LOVES MGS...ha So we spent a bit of time talking about what MGS does. He admitted his a bit of old timer and not real up on SM but says he's going to have to get more involved. That is all said, to say every rep I have spoken to this year has nothing but great things to say about MGS. Well all except for one
  30. 23 points
    This what it’s like to have the Penny experience at the ballpark. And it’s leave big at the inning long visit from Rays color guy and former MLB player Orestes Destrada. My buddy asked him if he really knew us and he said, “oh yeah, I see Pastor and Penny here often. Penny is my favorite baseball fan.” We watched Tommy Pham hit a GS with him 445 feet. It’s harder to hit a 400 ft HR than dunk a basketball. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
  31. 23 points
    So here we are, after all of the waiting and intelligent discussions, at the start of the Cobra Connect Challenge 3!! When I threw my name in the hat I was in Ireland over indulging in everything really so I promptly forgot. Imagine my surprise when I saw all of the notifications and realized what happened Getting chosen for this made me feel like a King and I imagine the other four felt the same so here is a little song to show our feelings.... Some how I managed to be chosen to represent the rest of the world against the Americans, so obviously I'm feeling no pressure at all :). I really should thank Cobra and MGS for that but they know they made the right choice. I suppose I should tell you a little about me. My name is John and I'm 47 years old. I am a proud New Zealander who is lucky to live in a little slice of paradise called Christchurch. Yes we have had a few dark times recently but I was born and raised here so to me it will always be home. I have played golf for about 40 years and I have been a member of the Templeton Golf Club for 37 years. I was lucky enough to play there with my father, brother and nephew. Dads been gone for a long time now but I still feel his presence there. My nephew is too busy with his twenties to play at the moment but my brother and I frequent the fairways and bar as often as we can. Golf has been the one constant in my sporting life and that is why I love it. I have flirted with Rugby (compulsory in NZ), Rugby League (like Rugby but less players and less huddling in groups), Football (soccer to the Americans) etc etc but golf has always been there, like a jujitsu hug from my partner Sinead, warm and wonderful at first but causes excruciating pain as well. My handicap has been as low as 5.9 and is currently resting at 9.8. I've always been far too competitive but have relaxed over the past few years. Some of my most satisfying wins have been for just a beer (and man do I LOVE craft beer) but I have won a few trophies as well. I like to think I have a smooth swing and a moderate tempo. My 150 yard club is 9 iron (I can't believe it either) and I hit the ball high. I usually hit a draw and my miss can be anywhere.... Right enough of the preview, here is my baseline.... As you can see if I can hit the green it's going to be one or two putts but if I have to chip... lord have mercy!! I am working on it so watch this space. Now to the sexiness!! My current clubs are Driver Ping G400 LST 3 Wood Cobra F7 (13.5* bullet) 2 Iron Srixon ZU85 18* Irons Mizuno JPX900 Hotmetals Wedges Titlest Vokey SM6 50, 55 and 60* Putter Rife Two Bar Hybrid All lefty and no it's not the wrong side of the ball. We are far more elegant than you common and uncouth right handers (except for Bubba of course, he's just brutal to the ball). These clubs have been in my bag for a while and I have been happy with them but there's always room for new and shiny in my life. Speaking of new and shiny (warning terrible attempts at artistic photos ahead...) .. aren't they pretty!! So here is where I was going to tell the story of my fitting, how I worked for hours honing my club choices, what shafts I wanted, what lofts in my wedges and emerged with the perfect set for me but due to circumstances beyond my and Cobras control I couldn't get a fitting in time. So I went with what I knew and trusted. Well I set the driver at 10.5* and with a 44.5" Atmos TS Blue 6 stiff shaft 3 Wood Atmos Blue 7 Regular 3 Hybrid Atmos Blue 7 Regular conventional Conventional 4-pw True Temper XP95 R300, 2* upright and 1* weaker on the pw Conventional King Black 52, 56 and 60, 1* stronger on the 52, 2* upright, XP95 R300 shafts. The lofts are changed for gaping and the shafts are the same as I currently play or as close as I could get The big question is can they live up to the claims Cobra has made? Is the milled face of the driver and 3 wood truly faster? Do the rails on the 3 wood and hybrid really make the clubs easier to hit? Does the speedback design of the irons really make a difference? Could the wedges be sexier? So these clubs are going to have to work hard to stay in the bag. The driver will need to be long and straight, the three wood will need to at least equal the current model, the hybrid... well lets just say hybrids and I don't get along hence the 2 iron but it has a fighting chance, the irons will have to fly and be accurate and the wedges will have to do the same. But when it comes to the challenge... I am in pretty good form and intend to devastate my fellow competitors with my stellar play. There will be weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth and my victory shall be glorious... or I shall suffer an ignominious defeat and slink home with my tail between my legs. Either way this is going to be a blast and we are all going to be champions!! LETS GET IT ON!!!!!
  32. 23 points
    CONGRATULATIONS TO THE FOLLOWING MEMBERS FOR BEING SELECTED...STAY TUNED FOR MORE INFO FROM ME @revkev @TSauer @PAgolfer2017 @mr.hicksta Sit Down This is A Big One!! What's your most effective club after your last iron and before your driver, 4-hybrid, 5 wood, utility iron? And how does that club fit with the rest of your clubs in that gap? Were you fit for it? Well according to the people I met with at PING at the PGA Show, most golfers don't pay as much attention to this area as they pay to the driver, irons and putter. Sure it may not be as thrilling as a driver fitting, and being covered up with head covers they may not bring the attention to your bag that shiny new irons do. But properly fit and gapped, they absolutely will save strokes in your long game. So we are looking for four testers to join myself in putting the latest line of PING G410 fairway-woods/hybrids/crossovers to test to see how they help improve your long game. Which clubs will you be testing? Well that's where part of the real fun comes in. Once selected, the testers will be set up with a FREE fitting by the local rep or an authorized top fitter in the area, for the gap between driver and irons. When the fitter has determined the setup those specs will be sent to PING and you will receive the clubs to test/review and keep. It's imperative that anyone that applies for this testing, understands and agrees that they will receive exactly what the fitter recommends, and not what you think you'd prefer or think you'd be more comfortable with. If you're not willing to put your trust in the hands of professional fitters, than this testing isn't for you. So put all egos aside and go into the fitting open minded. I know I did exactly that and was quite surprised and even more pleased at the results. I'll share my experiences and setup once the testing has begun. Also just want everyone to know, while the recent partnership announcement between PING and Arccos is very exciting, they will not be an option for this this testing. How to apply. This is important, so please follow these instructions carefully: 1. If you haven't already, make sure you're a registered MyGolfSpy Forum member 2. In this thread (and ONLY in this thread - please don't go back to the blog and apply - it won't do you any good!), tell us the following: - Your first name - City/State - Your swing speed and handicap - Your current setup of FW/Hybrid/Utility,....for example: 17* Utility iron, 5 wood, 4 hybrid Right Hand or Left Hand This review opportunity is open to any golfer who resides in the US (due to fitting logistics). We'll be announcing the testers in this thread next week, so make sure to check back. Please do not 'quote' this post when applying...
  33. 23 points
    Testers Announced! Odyssey claims its new Stroke Lab shaft will improve your putting stroke. Who will be putting that claim to the test? @MaxEntropy @Berg Ryman @Apolloshowl @juspoole Join me in congratulating our reviewers! TESTERS WANTED (4) So you think the importance of shaft design is only important to drivers. Well the engineers at Odyssey Golf among some of the best and brightest minds in the business want to show you otherwise. For years counterbalancing has been a big buzz word in the world of putter shafts. Well the new Stroke Lab putters by Odyssey Golf aren't just counterbalanced, they take weight shifting to a whole new level or should I say end. As in redistributing 40 percent of the weight from the middle of the shaft into the butt and head end of the shaft. The results show that you will make a much more consistent stroke with Stroke Lab than with the standard putter shaft. Don't believe it? We're going to give you...well four of you a chance to prove it to yourself and the rest of the forum. How to Apply This is important, so please follow these instructions carefully: 1. If you haven't already, make sure you're a registered MyGolfSpy Forum member 2. In this thread (and ONLY in this thread - please don't go back to the blog and apply - it won't do you any good!), tell us the following: - Your first name - State - Your current model of putter - Is putting a strength or weakness of your game This review opportunity is open to any golfer who resides in the US or Canada. We'll be announcing the testers in this thread next week, so make sure to check back. Please do not 'quote' this post when applying...
  34. 23 points
    Ping G410 Plus Driver - Stage 2 Review - jlukes It has been a great 6 weeks testing the G410 Plus driver. Over the testing period, I have played about 12 rounds of golf and had about 14 range sessions. I tested the G410 in every weight setting and every hosel setting. I tried to hit draws, fades, cuts, hooks, high bombs, low bullets and everything in between. I was able to get G410 on trackman and purchased the Arccos system that I had in play for the last few rounds. I made it a point to make this the most thorough club testing I have ever done. I hope that my fellow forum members enjoyed following along as I posted regular updates and answered questions throughout the testing process. I always enjoy forum testing for MGS, but this one was my favorite by far simply because of how much work I put into. Now onto the scoring... Looks Beauty is always in the eye of the beholder and everyone has their own preferences when it comes to how their golf clubs look. For me, the G410 Plus is a knockout. I always thought Ping turbulators were gimmicky, but I never spent any time with a Ping driver to really form a real opinion. Now that I have spent a ton of time with them, I love them. Yes, they provide some sort of aerodynamic properties, but where they really shine for me is how well they work as an alignment aid. The shape and size of the turbulators do such a great job of framing the ball. I have never had a easier driver to line up. I also have to say that I am glad that Ping decided to invert the Dragonfly Crown and “hide” it under the hood this go around. The combination of the turbulators and dragonfly crown on the G400 was a bit much for me, but G410 has a much cleaner look. The paint job is a beautiful matte dark grey and it is such a great finish to look at (and there are no glare issues). The red, black and silver color scheme is simple and clean on the underside of the club, and the implementation of the weight ports/track does not take away from the aesthetics of the club at all. Another thing that is often overlooked, but plays a huge role in how the club looks at address, is the size of the adjustable hosel. Ping has the cleanest implementation of an adjustable hosel in the industry. When looking down at the club, it is barely noticeable. The shaft seems as if it transitions seamlessly into the head. Just a small detail, but it really completes the look of the G410. Score: 10 (out of 10 points) Sound & Feel Having played composite-crowned drivers over the last 6+ years, it was definitely adjustment when I first started hitting the Ping G410. Heck, I wasn’t even sure I liked it. It isn't a bad sound like the Nike SQ, it was just very different. There is definitely a tingy-ness to the sound rather than the “thwack” you get with a composite driver. The more I hit it, the more my hearing adjusted to the sound and it became more and more pleasing. It is definitely a distinctly “Ping” sound, but it is a good sound. Feel is often linked to sound, but for me, the G410 felt softer than it sounded. That might not make sense to some people, but I feel that sometimes people associate loud with harsh, but that is not the case here. The G410 feels explosive. Stability is also a strength of the G410 as I found the feel of the sweet spot to be rather large. If you followed along with my regular updates, you would know that I don’t always find the center of the face. The feel and sound does differ a bit off low-face and heel-side hits, resulting in a more “thwacky” sound when compared to center and even toe strikes. For me, the Callaway Big Bertha Alpha was my favorite feeling/sounding driver ever. It felt explosive and had an intoxicating smooth sound at impact. How does the G410 compare? All I can say it is different. At first I was slightly turned off, but like one of those deep album tracks from your favorite band, it grows on you over time. The sound never once impacted how I would swing or my confidence in the club. Is it my favorite sounding driver of all time now? Honestly, it likely isn’t in my Top 3, but it still sounds good and feels even better. If I could separate the sound and feel scores, it would be 3 out of 5 for sound and 5 out of 5 for feel. Score: 8 (out of 10 points) Basic Characteristics Now that we have the vanity stuff out of the way, it is time to get into the nuts and bolts of the review. Performance. From the moment I had my initial fitting, I knew that the G410 was going to be something special. I have struggled with over-draws for much of the last 36 months and with the Flat hosel setting and weight in the fade position, I was actually able to hit baby fades. That is just not something I felt I could pull off with my current (and soon after getting the G410 on the course, previous) gamer. After I got the G410, I went to Club Champion to get some Trackman numbers as well as test shafts. I posted full details of that experience right here. What I saw on Trackman were ball speeds in the low to mid 160s and carry distances that were in the 270s and occasionally touching 280+. Those are lifetime best numbers for me all around. I was really really happy with everything I saw on trackman and couldn’t wait to hit some balls outside to see real ball fights. I spent a lot of time at the range for this review (twist my arm) and the more I hit the G410, the more I am impressed with it. I find the G410 to be low/mid spin and very easy to launch. The ball gets up fast and then flattens out for a very appealing flight. As I mentioned above, I tested just about every combination of adjustments the G410 had to offer and I found them all to make a noticeable difference. Loft down to open the face, flatten the lie, and put the weight in the toe and you’ll notice a drastic difference in flight than when you loft up to close the face, neutral lie, and weight in the heel. I played around with the settings to find an ideal setting for me and I have just about settled on the weight in the neutral position with the hosel set to the big minus sign to open up the face. This setting gives me a desirable baby draw with my standard swing and gives me the ability to hit a power fade if the situation calls for it. In terms of accuracy, the G410 puts out what you put in. I didn’t find any issues where a ball didn’t react in a way that wasn’t dictated by the strike. The ball flew where the face to bath relationship says it should have flown and that is really all you can ask for in any golf club. When it comes to forgiveness, I found the G410 Plus as stable and forgiving as any driver I have ever tried. Where the the G410 really impressed me was on ball speed retention on low face hits. Yes, I saw lower launch and higher spin on low face shots, but the ball speed retention was so good that the distance losses were more than acceptable. Heel and toe hits also produced above average results and I can’t think of one instance where I lost more distance or was more offline than I expected. Where I think the G410 really shined for me was the distance category, and more specifically, the consistent distances I was seeing. The G400 Max was an extremely forgiving driver, but it didn’t produce the best ball speed numbers. I feel as if the G410 Plus kept the stability of the G400 Max and added in ball speeds that allows it to compete with every driver on the market. Is it the longest driver on the market? No. It isn’t. However, that isn’t because of a lack of ball speed, it is because the G410 isn’t a super low spin head. I demoed drivers like the M5, Epic Flash SZ, and TS3 and while all 3 drivers would give me slightly longer drives on well-struck shots, they penalized me more on off-center hits more. As someone whose miss is a hook, super low spin can spell disaster on a mishit because it leads to ugly quacking duck hooks. While the G410 will never save me from a truly awful swing, I know that there is a greater margin for error. That greater margin of error allows me to swing more freely, resulting in faster swings and better drives. When on the range, I felt like I was in cruise control with the G410 in my hand. But we all know what really matters is how it performs on the course. Score: 19 (out of 20 points) On-Course Performance So as many of you know, I undertook a big swing change this offseason, which is still in progress. However this review isn’t a review of my swing or my struggles - it is a review of the performance of a driver. On the course, the Ping G410 Plus was everything I could want in a driver. Stable, forgiving, and long. I played about a dozen rounds over the last 6 weeks, most of them at my home courses, and I had drives that left me yardages into greens that I’ve never had before. Irons into Par 5’s where I am normally hitting at least a hybrid. Sand wedges instead of PW. Mid Irons instead of long irons. No matter the hole, the G410 gave me great results. I have only begun using the Arccos tracking system, but it has already showed me some great data. Even on poor shots, my drives are still going 250 yards, which is a true testament to how good the G410 is. I had two rounds where a really struggled with my swing, but even then the G410 produced relatively great results. I mentioned above that I seemed to get good results off strikes low on the face while at the range. That proved true on the course as shots where I felt like a nearly missed the face entirely still traveled 250 yards, or about 88% of my average distance. My fairways hit have been around 40%, but that number is more indicative of my swing struggles than the club itself. For me to be carrying drives in the 270s consistently is really something else. Unfortunately I don’t have any hard data to show what my tee game was before the G410, but I know my max carry was in the low to mid 260s and I needed some good roll out to 300. Now I am seeing my really good drives carry almost 280 and even with the wet conditions we’ve had in the North East I have seen several drives crack 290. On dry days (but before I had Arccos), I had several drives go over 320 yards (measured with GPS watch). That is just absurd for me. I cannot wait to get out of this wet spring and hit some summer fairways with this bomber to see what new parts of the course I can explore. While my scores may not have improved yet, mainly due to the swing changes and iron play being worked on, I have no doubt that the added distance and consistency will eventually lead to lower scores. All of the strokes gained data that MGS publishes shows that distance is king. Hitting longer drives, leading to shorter approach shots, which in turn lead to closer proximity to the hole, is the single most efficient way to improving scoring. Seeing what the G410 has done over such a short period of time, even while I go through the growing pains of implementing my swing changes on the course, makes me believe that the G410 will absolutely be leading me to lower scores. I will continue to update this thread as my time with the G410 continues to show just that. I mentioned in my Stage 1 that I had never gamed a Ping club before. I always had a perception of Ping that wasn’t quite favorable: I thought they were weird and gimmicky. Testing the G410 shattered that perception for me and made me really gain a appreciation for the Ping engineering team and what they look to accomplish when they create a club. I gained so much respect for Ping that I even tried out the G410 fairway wood at a local multi-vendor demo day and to my surprise the G410 LST 14.5* beat out every fairway wood on the market for me and earned a spot in my bag. So I went from no Ping clubs in my bag ever, to two Ping Clubs in the top of my bag. I won’t lie - Ping firmly has my attention and I will be giving their clubs a shot at earning any spot in my bag going forward. The G410 Plus is a great step forward from the G400 series. At the time of this review, the LST head has just been announced and I can definitely say that while I want to try it, I am not sure how good of a fit it will be for me. I really enjoy the stability and predictability of the G410 Plus and wouldn’t want to sacrifice any of that for a few extra yards. I really don’t see anything I would change in future iterations. If they Ping engineers could fine tune the sound a bit more, it would appeal a bit more to the masses, but that is really the only major improvement I could see them making. From the adjustable hosel and the movable weight, to the way the turbulators frame the ball, the G410’s feature set all serves a purpose. I love that Ping fine tuned their hosel to add flat lie setting for better players, and the weight ports absolutely influence the closure rate of the head. I hope Ping sticks with the adjustable weights and I wonder if they are already looking at what else they could possible do with them. We know they will never add adjustability if it means sacrificing weight placement and performance, so I am not sure how much more they can tweak this design. It would be cool if they could offer a front/back weight tuning similar to the Cobra F9, but I am not sure they’d be able to do so while maintaining the weight distribution they desire. Score: 29 (out of 30 points) Miscellaneous I have always heard how customer-service oriented Ping was, and this testing proved it. We received our drivers extremely fast and mine came to the exact spec that I ordered. The packaging was more than acceptable from a protection standpoint. Another thing I wanted to call out is the cost of additional weights. I wanted to experiment with a slightly different swing weight in both the G410 driver and the LST 3W I purchased. The price of the weights are noticeably cheaper than competitors’ weights. The Ping driver and FW weights retail for $18 and $13 respectively. In comparison, Cobra F9 Weights are $25. Titleist TS2 weights are $25. Just a great price point from Ping. In MGS’s write-up of the Ping G410, they mentioned that Ping redesigned the headcover to be a bit heavier so it would would not blow away in the wind. While I normally use my own personal headcover for my drive, I did bring the Ping headcover to several range sessions and rounds and can confirm that it definitely doesn’t blow around as easily as other headcovers. Not something that would make or break the driver, but just a pretty cool detail from Ping. Score: 10 (out of 10 points) Play it or Trade it? Considering the G410 Plus knocked my Titleist TS3 driver out of the bag in less than two weeks, it should be no surprise that is is now my full-time gamer. I truly believe that the Ping G410 maximizes my overall tee game and my game is better for it. The LST version of this head does intrigue me. Did Ping simply create a lower spin version of the G410 plus, maintaining the stability and consistency of the G410, but in a lower spin? If so, that head could potentially change my tune. I did win a full bag fitting from True Spec Golf, so it is only a matter of time until I find out just how good of a fit the G410 is for me. Until then, it isn’t going anywhere. I believe the G410, due to all of its adjustability, will fit an extremely wide range of golfers. We already see tour players using the G410, and there is no doubt that 20+ handicaps could game the G410 as well. Throw in the SFT and LST heads and Ping has created a line of drivers that literally fits every golfer. I believe the $499 price point is right in line with where it should be. $500 is the going rate for a new premium driver, and that is just a fact of life. The G410 is the total package and is appropriately priced. Can someone find a used driver from 2017 or 2018 that performs close to the G410 for less money? Of course they could. But if someone is looking for a new driver in 2019, the G410 should absolutely be at the top of the list to try. Score: 19 (out of 20 points) Conclusion So if you’ve made it through the entire review and reached the conclusion, you already know what I am going to say here. If you have skipped to the conclusion with hopes of getting a quick recap, you’re in luck. The Ping G410 Plus driver is simply the most well balanced driver I have ever gamed. It gives me great ball speeds and fantastic stability that result the best drives that I have ever hit. Throw in the adjustable hosel and weight ports and you have a driver that can be customized to fit just about any golfer. A driver should give you confidence the moment you pull it from the bag, remove the headcover and set it down behind the ball and for me the Ping G410 Plus does just that. I am excited to have the G410 Plus as my driver moving forward and will continue to post updates throughout this thread as the season progresses. Final Score: 95 out of 100 points
  35. 22 points
    This little munchkin joined us 2 days ago! Mom and baby are doing well! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
  36. 22 points
    First off... brr. It was 36° by the time I made it to the demo day. Misting with the occasional snow squalls, it’s May tomorrow gosh darn it. There were: Titleist, Taylormade, Tour Exotics, Srixon/Cleveland, Cobra, PING, and Callaway. First stop was the Srixon tent. Had the guy fit a KBS Tour into the Z Forged. He said I was the first guy to ask for it all day. First impressions were meh, but after a few warm ups (yes I warmed up out of the car with a blade) I got to liking the club. Good stuff from Srixon. I bounced down to the Taylormade shack after that and tried a GAPR 3 iron. Not what I was expecting, but it plays less offset looking than I’ve seen in photos. I then looked out of the corner of my eye and saw a kid hitting these... [emoji7][emoji7][emoji7] I waited for 10 minutes in line for him to finish up hitting them. He cleaned them off and I took them for a ride. First impressions here... not a $2000 set of blades. They look good but felt or performed no better then the Srixon’s. Hit about 40 shots, extremely workable. They are nice for sure, if I could spend the 2K I’d probably do it. Hit the Mini Driver thingy... my goodness what a crunchy crack sound... love that thing. Moved on to PING... tried one swing with the i500 and put it back. Tried the G400 2 crossover... 2 swings. The Glide Stealth wedges are legit, best shaped wedge of the day. Skipped down to Callaway, grabbed the Apex MB, two swipes with a Modus 105 shaft and I put it back, and never came back to the Callaway tent. The rep was a real nice guy. [emoji849] Stopped at the Cobra shed... the guy remembered me from 2 years ago. Hit the MIM wedge. Feel department this wedge gets 100/100... the F9 driver is deadly. Love the sound, look, and overall build. All the way back to Srixon. Tried the Cleveland wedges... too tinty sounding (bummer). Tried the 745’s, wonderful feeling club. Next up was Tour Exotics. I grabbed the CBX blade 8 iron since it was the only blade he had. I’m sold. Best feeling club I’ve ever hit. Tried the ironwood 3 thing... rocket launcher.... can’t understand why this brand doesn’t get more attention. Saved Titleist for last. Shafted up the MB for me. No thanks. A bit on the small side comparatively to the other blades. TMB 2 iron was the club of the day. I wouldn’t need a 3 wood with that thing. I ended up trying the AP3, not for me. We tried a few shafts and the bone stock TT X100 was the best fit out about 8 we tried. Went back to the Srixon, and Tour Exotics tents and tried everything again. After a semi fitting with the titleist rep if I were buying clubs today I would have walked out with. Cobra F9 9° (white) Titleist TMB 2 iron Tour Exotics 3-AW Cobra MIM 56, 60 Taylormade Spider X Navy Blue Thanks for reading. If you want more detail on blades I can get more in depth. I hit them all several times.
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    In my time at MyGolfSpy (both as a member and a moderator), I think the request I've seen most often is to compare this year's Most Wanted Driver against previous year's winners. Until now, this wasn't something a reader could do by comparing the results pages, because differing years' tests were compiled with different testers and sometimes with tweaks in methodologies. Thus, as strokes gained number from 2019 couldn't be compared straight up to the same number from 2018. UNTIL THIS YEAR! That's a big announcement and it's going to be very interesting to see the outcome.
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    Folks - this isn't a request. Politics has no place in this golf forum. These are trying, politically charged times for all of us. MyGolfSpy doesn't care about your politics, and we expect you to respect that and leave them at the door. Let's use this thread for its intended purpose - to share our experiences, thoughts and ideas as we all cope with something I'd say nearly all of us have never seen in our lifetime. I get that it's hard to keep your politics out of it, but we're making it easy. Don't do it. There. It's that simple. The little white ball doesn't give a flying f**k who you voted for, what you think the virus should be called or who you think has or hasn't done what. Am I being clear enough?
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    We did it! We had to get up at 2AM and hike 20 minutes with bags on the back to get wait in line in the cold, wind and rain for 3 hours, but we made it!! Scratch the Old Course off the bucket list baby!! I’m glad we did it this way instead of winning the ballot, because it makes for a much better story (to be shared later) - but it was everything you’d want it to be. Here are some pix to hold you over... It was an awesome experience - shot an 83 with a triple on the front (damn bunkers!!) - and there was a 78 or 79 to be had. Bogeyed #1, pars on #11 and 18, bogeyed the road hole but nailed the middle of the fairway off the tee after busing one over the hotel - the caddy said it was “text-booook.” Playing Jubilee and New today. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
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    Check it out: https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/28411127/introducing-small-group-trying-take-change-golf-equipment-industry
  41. 21 points
    (10) TESTERS WANTED: SKYCADDIE SX400 GPS There are far more people out there still using flip-phones than one might think. Call them traditionalists or Luddites, there's always a contingent happy to eschew technological advancements in favor of a more orthodox approach. In golf parlance, this group tends to be feel players and might be overheard describing a shot as " a three-fingered 7-iron." That aside, the merits of distance-measuring devices can't be ignored and if you've been looking for a reason to experience it first-hand, this might be just the opportunity. Testers Wanted We're looking for 10 golfers who don't currently use any sort of distance-measuring device (GPS, rangefinder) to test, review, and keep SkyCaddie's new SX400 GPS. As you know, MyGolfSpy takes its product testing very seriously. All of our reader reviews are published in our Community Forum. We expect a lot from our reviewers – writing a thorough, detailed, and honest review is a commitment, requiring extensive on-course work as well as participation in the Forum itself to answer questions and discuss product performance with other golfers. That means to be a potential reviewer, you must be a registered member of the MyGolfSpy Community Forum, where you’ll find thousands of like-minded golfers from all over the world anxious to talk about golf equipment. This opportunity is open to golfers residing in the US with access to outdoor testing. To apply to test and review a SkyCaddie SX400 GPS, reply to this thread with the following information: Name and Location How do you currently get your yardages? How do you feel about technology's relationship with golf?
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    FITTING NIRVANA The other day I participated in my first full-bag fitting. TrueSpec golf offered an opportunity that doesn't come around too often - a free (450.00 value!) full bag fitting at the Boston location. I was very much looking forward to this as I had never done a full bag before. 3 years ago I had an iron fitting that wasn't very good. 5 years ago I had a driver fitting that was o-kay. 2 years ago I had a putter fitting that was a disappointment. I've heard a lot of great things about TrueSpec, especially reading about @jlukes experience, and I couldn't wait to see what it was all about. ------------------------------ On behalf of everyone at True Spec Golf, thank you for considering us for your golf equipment needs. We are looking forward to showing you what a custom club fitting can do for your game. We have you scheduled for: COMPLIMENTARY FITTING October 9, 2019 03:30 PM at Boston Your appointment should last 240 minutes. ------------------------------ WHAT !?!??! 240 minutes.... as in 4 hours ?!?! Wooo-boy. I was glad that I was the last appointment of the day. Upon arrival I saw that the location was in an industrial area and located in a warehouse looking building. This made me a little skeptical. But... I had an open mind and was optimistic. Waiting for me outside of the building was Nick and he saw me with my bag and greeted me pleasantly. Right away I let him know that I worked as a forum admin for MyGolfSpy and asked if he'd heard of the site; - "Oh yeah, they did that big ball test this year, right?" Funny...that really REALLY had an impact on the industry. I let him know about how the site is independent and lets the data speak for itself, how we do a lot of equipment testing and that I'm also there to get some information to share with the forum members so I'll be taking some photos. I was pleasantly surprised to see that it was just him and I and the space was open, warm, welcoming and large.. I'll let the pics speak for themselves... giant hitting bay, shafts and heads galore... every machine you can imagine. Top notch. He asked me the particulars that you typically are asked when getting a fitting (what am I looking for, what do I currently play, etc.) He then took my 6 iron and measured everything (loft/lie/length) while I warmed up with an 8. A very nice touch: he asked what ball I typically play (BS RX) and we used THAT ball for everything. (Note - they use a GCQuad/Foresight which works very well) Shafts galore He described how they do all of their fittings using a 6 iron because that's the club that most people lose confidence in for some reason. 7 iron is fine but the 6 seems to scare folks. Personally, I am fine hitting my 6 but I liked to hear how they want to get folks comfortable and confident hitting a club they typically aren't confident in. Devices aplenty....(he used the tall black metal machine to bend my wedge and the other stuff was used to measure weight, length and flex) For a full bag they typically start with irons, move on to driver, then woods/hybrids, wedges, putter. I had a unique situation because I had a set of specific irons I wanted to get fit for and he was more than happy to help with that. I hit my 6 to set a baseline and then we compared my 6 to the set I wanted, tried a couple different shafts (I asked him to stick to the stock choices for ordering purposes) and found one that I really liked and performed well for me. We then went to the driver and I won my driver during a member-guest tournament earlier this year and I wasn't properly fit into it so I asked if he could help me with the settings. I took some swings, he looked at the numbers, made a couple of adjustments and my total distance before the change became my carry distance afterwards! Basically I added about 20 yards to my drive with some minor adjustments.... #fittingmatters My kind of drawers! After we got 'my' driver dialed in I let him know I wasn't "married" to it and if there was anything else he had that might be better I'm all for it. I tried a number of different head and shaft combinations that came close but nothing that could knock it outta the bag. He did suggest that I trim an inch off because it is 45.5 inches long! Even tour pros don't play drivers that long. We carried on with 3w and my hybrid and same thing... both were as good as anything else. I recently began to get a bit of a hook with my hybrid and he helped me adjust the settings so that it is more fade biased and I gained about 15 yards as well. I asked about my wedge makeup (50/54/58) and he liked it and especially liked the grind for the area/courses I play (New England). I told him that something about the 50 felt 'off' and he measured it and noticed it was 2 degrees flat. Well then! He quickly put it on the machine, bent it so that it was standard and boom.... I got the extra yards I was missing. He helped to make sure that the gapping in my set was good (of course since I didn't have my irons he could only estimate) and we moved on to the putter. This was in another section of the fitting area and used GCQuad. I had a previous putter fitting using Samlab and there wasn't much difference between the two of them. Mix and match shafts, grips and putter heads.... very cool. I recently purchased the putter and had only had it out for one round. I hit a series of 9 foot putts while he watched behind and the putts were going in and the numbers looked okay but he noticed that the toe was a bit high. He bent the putter a bit, I tried again and voila.... the numbers were spot on. Giving the putter a little makeover... THIS MADE ME VERY HAPPY.... this is where I lose the majority of my strokes and this was my 4th putter this year. Having a properly fit putter is such a great feeling! It was now about 7:30 and the time just seemed to fly by. We're both kind of 'gear heads' so it was easy to pass the time; Nick KNOWS clubs and we had some great conversation. He was easy going, friendly and helpful. All in all it was the best fitting experience I have ever had. The place itself is first class. Clean, organized, professional...everything you could want from a fitting. To top it all off Nick sent me all of my results in multiple pdf documents within 30 minutes after my session and even offered to send me the entire dataset. I was able to ask him a question the next day via email and he responded quickly. There was no pressure to sell me anything and I could tell he truly only cared that I have the best performing clubs in my bag - no matter whether they were new or old. I highly recommend TrueSpec; I've been to Club Champion and some other local "Golf Digest top 100" fitters and they pale in comparison. The one thing I would caution you on - for a full bag you will hit a lot of balls and you'll probably feel it the next day; I didn't feel it at the time but when I woke up the next day I did. Don't get me wrong, the full bag is awesome, and it's great to do it all at once and totally worth it but they do offer other individual fittings. TLDR; TrueSpec is wicked awesome. You should definitely do it. Just for fun.... my results: Irons (6 iron): Driver: Woods: Putter:
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    So this is a really embarrassing story but it always makes me smile - even if the smile is while I'm hiding my red face! I have had the opportunity to attend several tour events, especially practice rounds for the PGA Championship, the now defunct NEC Championship, as well as others, and during those events I've had some really great conversations with players like Phil Mickelson, Padraig Harrington, Sergio García and others. These interactions are typically only a few minutes but I have found these players gracious and I have never been star struck although certainly excited. I'm sure many of you have had similar experiences while attending tour events; my experience is not unique nor am I special in that regard. But for whatever reason, when I met Paul Azinger, I completely fell apart and here's the story - enjoy [emoji28] I had been living in Palmetto, FL for several years working as an associate pastor of a church there when I accepted a position in Ohio. It was literally my last day in Florida and I was having lunch with my father at a really great little restaurant by the name of "Peaches" in Bradenton, FL. Peaches was always busy with a long line forming for seating every day during the lunch rush. We had just gotten our food when I noticed Paul Azinger waiting in line to be seated. Paul had always been a favorite of mine. His unique swing, his passionate play in Ryder Cups, the way he spoke his mind and his friendship with Payne Stewart. Payne Stewart is from Springfield, MO and that's where I was first on my own in college, it's where I met my wife and I really learned my game at Payne Stewart Golf Course in Springfield. So Springfield and Payne are important figures in my development. I was moving to Ohio in January of 1999 and Paul was back playing after beating his cancer diagnosis in 1993. 1993 was a big year for Paul: he held off Payne to win the Memorial and Greg Norman to win the PGA Championship and in December he was diagnosed with non-Hodgkin lymphoma in his right shoulder. But by 1999 he was back and playing well again and would even win again in 2000 at the Sony Open. I share all of this to simply say that I KNEW a lot about Paul and could have said any number of things to him when I met him but it wasn't to be. When I saw him standing in line I somehow was transformed into a child seeing a hero for the first time and I proceeded to make an idiot out of myself. I tell my dad, "Oh my gosh! That's Paul Azinger! I've got to go say hello." So I get up and as I'm walking towards him I'm thinking of all the things I could say to him (think Chris Farley interviewing Paul McCartney on SNL): "Remember that time you beat Payne Stewart at the Memorial by holing out from the bunker? That was awesome. Remember that time when Payne smashed bananas in your loafers when you beat him at the Memorial? Remember when you beat Greg Norman at Inverness for your first major? That was awesome." All these thoughts were rushing through my head as I walked closer and closer to him. Suddenly I'm in front of him! He's looking expectingly at me and I'm staring awkwardly at him for what seems like minutes and I'm screaming to myself, "SAY SOMETHING!" And I blurt out:"Your Paul Azinger!" To which he replies,"Yep." This is not going well. He's looking around for some escape and I'm still standing right in front of him, sweating now, in full blown panic. I tell myself, "Come on, you can do better! You have all those facts to share - remember?" Suddenly, my mind is completely blank - I got nothing. Sensing my moment is passing, feeling my desperation and dread growing I declare with all the confidence I can muster, "I love golf!" With a look of compassion for the humiliated man in front of him, Paul smiled and said, "Yeah me too." I had the wherewithal to grab a take out menu in order to procure his autograph (which he graciously signed) and managed to slink back to my seat and finish my lunch. He was as kind and gracious as anyone could possibly be in that situation. I was humiliated and yet elated. I knew it was a moment I would never forget. In October of 1999, Payne Stewart tragically died in a plane crash and when I heard the news I cried and thought of Paul. In the days that followed Paul was in the news a lot because of his close friendship to Payne and how he handled himself made think all the more highly of him. He is a class act! This story is one my family enjoys so much because dad who is most always calm and collected and in control, was a total super fan one day in Bradenton, FL. I still have that take out menu signed by Paul Azinger and every time Paul is on the TV commentating my kids yell, "I love golf!" I sure do :) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Well if you seen the title and thought "Oh great some other fool got a Hole In One, Lucky Bastard!!" you would be wrong. I didn't not get the ever elusive HIO. I did however just achieve the next best thing to it. That is right, 1000 posts on the greatest forum on the net! I would like to give a shoutout to @downlowkey for the stern advice in a thread I posted about some help with a putter. The advice was to make an effort to be more involved in this community. I am glad I listened as you all have become a second family to me and would be lost without you and this great place. Thanks for having me and here is to another 1000!
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    *PREFACE* I wrote my complete intro a few days before our June 9th deadline. We were given the OK to put the new Cobra clubs in play starting on June 8th, and I used them for my course’s first “major” of the year. 36 hole net stroke play event played from 6400 yards. As a 7 handicap I shot 73-78 to shoot net -5 and win my flight by 11 shots. These clubs are good. Official Intro: Hello. My name is Bucky and I’m an alchol----wait, wrong forum. For some strange reason I’ve been chosen to compete in the most prestigious contest that MyGolfSpy has to offer. What were they thinking? In any case I owe a gigantic thank you to MGS and the Cobra team for putting this together for the 3rd year. To recycle a comment I made in the pre-chatter; it’s the Catalina Wine Mixer of MGS events. I know most of you aren’t all that interested in our personal back stories so I’ll be brief. Born in Wisconsin, learned the game from my older brother, been playing for close to 30 years now, lived in Minnesota for 10 years after college, back in Wisconsin for good now. If that’s not boring enough for you head over to the SuperSpeed forum page and check out my intro from last fall. It’s a real page turner. I have gone through fittings for pretty much every club in my bag. I had a Callaway Epic driver, PXG 3 wood (used of course!), Ping i25 hybrids, Titleist 714 AP2 irons, and Vokey wedges. My favorite clubs are probably my Ping hybrids. They are small and anti hook. Last year I started tracking more of my shots by hand so to use the Arccos system this spring was amazing. The only issues I had with it were missing a few tap in putts but they were easily added before I even got to the next tee box. Overall my swing is moderate tempo with a top swing speed in the 105-110 range. Here’s a video of me from the range earlier this week. My typical ball flight is medium height with misses to both sides of the fairway/green. I'm still working on my Phil Kwon Do Calves. While my USGA index is currently a 6.3 I’ve struggled this spring with extremely wet conditions and getting used to my new SuperSpeed enhanced swing. The long Wisconsin winters also wreak havoc on my game. My Arccos baseline rounds show that I'm an 8.8 handicap using my old clubs. My best rounds of the year always come in July, August, and September. I’ve been fighting a nasty slice this spring but may have made a correction earlier this week. Hopefully I’m finally over the winter rust and it’s not just a matter of me playing crappy golf. Here are my driving numbers with basically zero roll on the wet courses. Here are a few more boring stats before we get into the good stuff. I would say this is a pretty accurate representation of my game with a few too many doubles that usually go away as the conditions firm up and my swing becomes more fluid. Scoring breakdown and Putting stats/handicap. Greens in regulation show I leave my shots short too often. A lot of the greens at my home course slope back to front so it’s definitely beneficial to be below the hole. Chipping is pretty poor thanks to extremely thick and wet rough this spring and low skill level on my part. And now on to the 2019 Cobra lineup. Drumroll please! Cobra is all about speed this year. Heck, everything but the wedges have Speedback in their name! While the reason behind the SPEED is a little different for each club, essentially they all claim to be forgiving, long, and FAAAAAAASSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTTT! I’m pretty sure I’ll be hitting 400 yard drives within 2 inches of my target line by the end of the summer. I’ve posted quite a few club pictures in the pre-chatter forum already, but I really love the look of these clubs and want to post more. Deal with it! The driver looks fantastic. I’m not a big fan of huge club head markings (turbulators), but Cobra toes the line perfectly blending functional aerodynamic improvements and standard club head shaping. I really like the matte grey top of the club that came with the white drivers. The fairway wood is basically a mini driver. I’ve hit some BOMBS with this off the tee. If I had to use one word to describe the hybrids it would be speed BIG. Compared to my old i25’s these are quite large. Bigger is always better, right? The irons are also on the large side of what I’m used to. I know I could use a little help here but these almost seem excessive. I’m most interested to see how super game improvement irons compare to my old AP2s (right side of the 2nd picture.) The wedges are gorgeous with the black on black look. As described in the pre-chatter they are basically ninjas. I can’t wait to take Bruce Lee, The Bride, and Haru (Chris Farley in Beverly Hills Ninja) out on the course. I would show you a multitude of bag pictures but unfortunately I’m not currently gaming the bag with my new clubs. Upon seeing the awesome red/white/blue stand combo I selected my wife claimed it as her own. It’s replacing a black and yellow Acuity bag (Dick’s Sporting Goods store brand) that was over 10 years old. Vote for me; my wife stole my bag!!! I really struggled with the final part of my intro to the CobraConnectChallenge3. At first I had this elaborate “30 for 30” style story about how I was groomed from a child to win this entire challenge; complete with requisite jokes at the expense of my fellow competitors. There were some bad jokes like comparing Nunfa0’s New Zealand home to Middle Earth (lame), some mediocre jokes about Palvord sharing Detroit with Kid Rock (meh), and a decent one about Bryson giving a rough estimate of my chances of winning at 31.3593204852929039481%. Truth is none of that stuff is me. I play my best when I’m challenging the course instead of my foursome (or fivesome in this case). For all I know Bardle, Nunfa0, Palvord, and Robertson153 are amazing people both on and off the course. All I can control over the next 8+ weeks is how I present myself and how much time and effort I put into my game. With all of that being said I have four (FORE!) main questions going into this challenge: 1. The Cobra clubs are top notch across the board but can gaming a full bag of just one brand really beat my individually fit clubs from multiple companies? 2. Will the extra large hybrids be able to cut through the thick rough on my course and be more than just fairway finders off the tee? 3. Can the super game improvement aspect of the F9 Speedback irons really help improve my approach stats? I’m not looking for extra distance here; I want accuracy and consistency. 4. If I win the intro phase of the challenge will I really go full Rickie? It’s a good possibility!
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    After this years most wanted driver testing, there should be no question MGS testing is unbiased. Callaway chose not to participate and still ended up as the most wanted driver in the test. That to me says more about the people behind MGS that who is allowed or not allowed to advertise. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
  47. 21 points
    This was just posted on the MGS Facebook account, but I thought I'd copy it over here. Dear Tiger, Today I saw something I have never seen before. My husband (owner of MyGolfSpy) watching golf. Not sure if you have ever heard of MyGolfSpy. But to his readers, this may be news to them, Adam doesn’t really watch golf, or play golf. But here he was today, in the kitchen, phone [propped] on the ledge of the window above the sink, making sure I too would witness redemption (while cleaning dishes). I turned the water off. On the screen were a few leaves blowing on the course, you in a red shirt. Adam watched with the glow of the phone on his face verging on tears, yet fist clenched ready to pump. A win for you Tiger is a win for my husband. All these years watching you struggle was a constant reminder of his own struggle. A struggle in which you don’t see, he won’t show and he is too embarrassed to tell. Before I met Adam, he was thriving in his 20’s. Financially successful young business owner of one of very first online golf shops, participant in the world long drive event, and golf club designer. A strapping former collegiate athlete. Cue fibromyalgia. At 30, he was 145 lbs., barely mobile, and near death. Adam was forced to sell his business. This was about the time we met, and even in his weakened state, I was struck by his passion, just like he is with yours. He was trying to win just like you. There were so many surgeries and no answers or relief, but he kept at it. During the pregnancy of our first child, and at his absolute bottom he turned to me with that same glow I saw today while he watched you. This time, the glow was from the computer screen “I am going to start a site called MyGolfSpy, I’m going to change an entire industry.” What I want you to know is that you mean something special to my husband down to his soul. You are not only a small part of why he is still here today you are part of why he beat a disorder they said couldn’t be beat. He never said never. So, I thank you. Was Tiger's comeback an inspiration for you? I know it was for Adam and the sport of golf. Wife of Adam, Carrie
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    First and foremost, a huge thank you to both MGS and Bettinardi Golf for providing the opportunity to test and provide feedback for this product. I’m honored to be a part of this test and will strive to provide an honest review that will give the readers more insight to this putter. A bit about me before we delve into the nitty gritty of the putter. I took up golf later in life around the age of 38 after retiring from the US Submarine Service. For some reason, brass frowned on driving a golf ball down the narrow passageways of the sub. I’ve been playing golf for around 30 years now and thoroughly enjoy the game. Until recently, I carried an 8 handicap. Following neck and knee surgeries, my game has slipped quite a bit, as has my handicap, moving up to between 10 and 12. I carry a driver and 3 fairway metals, all TaylorMade M4. My irons consist of custom fit Callaway Apex CF19 6-AW and a 54 and 60 degree Callaway Mack Daddy 4. Since the review is on a putter, I’ll only discuss my putting. I’m currently putting with an Odyssey Stroke Labs 7S putter. Prior to this putter, I was gaming a Taylor Made Tour Spider, both being toe balanced mallet putters and both being found by Club Champion as suitable to my putting stroke. Until going with these putters, I used toe balanced blade putters exclusively. My putting grip is conventional. Over the years, I’ve attempted to adopt other putting styles, including left hand low and various claw grips. None of them felt comfortable and I always returned to a conventional grip. I’ve never been a lights out great putter, but I’ve always felt as if I were a decent putter. My biggest fault putting is not aggressively stroking the putter to get the ball past the hole, preferring to die it in the hole. This method has often left me short or getting more break than I had planned for. I’ve tried to be more aggressive, but have never achieved comfort putting that way. Another fault is that occasionally my left hand will twist counter clockwise, closing the face at impact. Having said all of my, I stand over putts fairly confident on short putts from tap in to 6 feet out. On putts 6-15 feet, I feel confident that my line and distance control will leave me a tap in. As I get further out than 25 feet, I’m far less confident in my distance control and have a tendency to get further off line when taking longer strokes. Perhaps this armlock putter will be the answer these issues. Now on to the more important matters – the gear I and others will be testing and reviewing -- the Bettinardi Studio Stock 38 Armlock putter. The specs from the website list it at weighing 400 grams made of 303 stainless steel. It is face milled and comes with a custom 15 inch Lamkin grip. They further describe it as a compact mallet with maximum forgiveness and easy alignment with 20% deeper groves for a softer feel at impact. It comes in a hand polished platinum finish with a sharp sapphire blue paint scheme. They offer a number of fit options regarding length, lie, and loft. I opted to go with standard length of 40 inches, standard lie of 71 degrees, but I wanted a more lofted face and chose to go with 7 degrees of loft. It was suggested that length should hit your forearm 2 inches below your elbow. My reasoning to go with more loft was to overcome any forward shaft lean at impact while still providing 3-4 degrees of loft. From reading, the amount of forward lean is significantly affected by ball position. MSRP is a hefty $450. First Impressions! From the custom Lamkin blue grip with white lettering to the polished head, it is a good looking putter. It is a face balanced putter and it feels well balanced in the hand. The grip has a very nice texture to it, but isn’t too rough on the hand. At address, as you look down on the putter head, you see a duller matte finish to minimize glare. The compact mallet head has a single alignment line on the body of the mallet, leaving the top line of the putter void of markings. The design of the head also has a stepped build that also acts as a ball centering aid. The face has a blue logo on the heel of the putter and the center is adorned with grooves. As you look down at the putter, you notice the added loft but once you press the grip against your lead arm, the effective loft is offset by the forward shaft lean. While the head cover is attractive, it is a very tight fit on the putter and uses a Velcro closure at the heel. Personally, I would have preferred to see a mallet style cover with magnetic closure. I’ve been out on the putting green with it a few times and I have to say that it’s an awkward feeling to get used to putting with this style putter. After adjusting ball position and how far down the shaft to grip, I believe I’ve found the most comfortable position that is delivering somewhat consistent results. While it’s rolling the ball nicely and I’m controlling distance fairly well, I’m finding it difficult to align, mainly because of the forward shaft lean and the way my eyes want to set over it. Thank you for the opportunity to review this putter. Feel free to ask any questions and I’ll do my best to give you my thoughts on that. Below are a couple of links to videos (no Oscars for them) 20190412_123900 by Carl Harsch, on Flickr 20190412_124913 by Carl Harsch, on Flickr
  49. 21 points
    I want to first start off by thanking Bettinardi and MyGolfSpy for this opportunity to test this beautiful putter and this style that is rapidly gaining traction on tour. Now let me tell you a little bit about me and my game. I am a scratch golfer and I play 6-8 times per month and also practice 2-3 days per week. I play all types of courses in the San Diego area. I played one year of Division 2 college golf before deciding that college just wasn't for me. Something about not having to go to class just sounded so good. I was young and dumb back then but I wouldn’t change it for the world. I tried some small mini tours and did well until I injured my back which it was only recently that I found out was caused by a birth defect in my spine the lead to scoliosis. Now I play competitive golf on the Veterans Golf Association Tour as well as USGA and SCGA events. I am currently prepping to try out for the All Navy Golf Team Tryouts in mid-May. In southern California we have a vast array of types of course I play. I have a few that are by the ocean and typically softer and shorter. Then I have a few desert style firm and fast courses that I can play also. The one thing nearly all of them have in common is Poa greens. A few have bent greens but most are that scary Poa Annua they talk about on Tour. The green speed can vary greatly also from 9-13. I tend to play the Military course as they save me a good amount of money on greens fees. They are all good course nothing to challenging but they have all drastically improved their greens over the last year. A little about my game and how I attack the course. I have been a bomb and gouge guy most of my life. I competed in long drive 9-10 years ago and I was pretty long for a guy who could reasonably control the direction with the driver. After several injuries to my back and a ruptured Achilles that I never fully recovered from I focus on iron and wedge play. I still have a club head speed between 115-122 depending on how hard I want to go at it. I have always felt like I have been a pretty good putter but like most golfers I am always searching for that lightening in a bottle. I have been extremely happy with my current putter after I did a putter fitting but this arm-lock style makes so much sense to me that I have been itching to try it. It’s that constant pursuit of perfection or uncontrollable urge to get better that makes me love the game. I love that I can control how good I can be by putting more time and effort into my game. The other part is that as a golfer you have an automatic connection with any golfer regardless of their skill level. All golfers understand each other. You step on the first tee with 3 complete strangers and by the end of the round you have a very good understanding of each person and who they are. The thing all Spies want to know the most is the WITB. Most of us are gear heads and that’s likely why we are here. Driver: Cobra F9 Yellow 9* 2G forward 18G back Accra TZ5 65 M5 tipped 3/4” plays 44.75 3 Wood: PXG 0341 15* set 1.5* lower HZRDUS Yellow 76 6.5 tipped 1.5” plays 42.75 Irons: Ben Hogan FT Worth Black or new PTx Pro both have KBS Tour V 120X shafts standard length 2* flat Wedges: Ben Hogan Equalizer 50, 55, 60 KBS Tour V shafts Putter: PXG Mini Gunboat H/Scotty Cameron Newport 2 Buttonback both have the P2 Aware Tour grip at 34.5 http:// This is a putter review so let’s talk about my putting. I have a medium arc stroke but that is largely influenced by the type of putter I use. I have a slower more controlled putting stoke also. The studies with blast Motion and other types of measuring devices show a 2 to 1 stroke pace is best specifically 0.6 seconds on the back stroke and 0.3 seconds to impact. I have tried to replicate this in practice but it just doesn’t work for me, I struggle with distance control. My slower tempo is also why I prefer to die the ball in the hole. I am looking for 8-14” past the hole as my target pace. My typical miss is low side on longer putts and a push on shorter putts as I sometimes steer the ball and not release the putter face. I am extremely confident inside 10ft I feel like I am going to make every putt. I am also a very good lag putter, I rarely 3-putt due to a bad first putt. First Impressions Enough about me let’s talk about the reason you are all here the Bettinardi BB38 Arm-Lock putter I chose to go with 40.5” 5 degrees of loft and 2* flat lie angle. The first thing I noticed when I opened the box was the beautiful finish and blue paint fill. The headcover is fantastic looking and fits perfectly, the quality of the cover is probably the best of any OEM in a stock offering. The grip is a really nice corded grip that is the perfect size in the hands in my opinion but it’s not perfect. The head shape is very clean and the lines are beautiful, aesthetically its very pleasing. The 400-gram head weight and 40.5” length create a really balanced feel. Everything about this putter screams high quality. They claim that the arm-lock style helps create a more pendulum motion and eliminates the hands in the stroke. To me this style is for people that are not the best putters and becomes more of a band aid. After some quick testing the putter feels great but this style is very uncomfortable at first. I was able to get used to the feeling and roll in a few putts. But this putter will have to show a noticeable improvement in my putting for me to make the permanent switch. Will the improvements out-weigh the uncomfortable feeling over the ball? Will I make enough putts to get over the embarrassment of using an arm-lock style putter? These are some big questions I will answer in my stage 2.
  50. 21 points
    This is looking promising _________________________________________________________ And now, the main event: Combined Stage 1 and 2, written by STUDque, 30 August 2019 BLUF SPOILER ALERT: The Ping G410+ is the BEST driver I’ve ever hit. Period. This review could start and end with that but what good is a claim without proof? Keep Reading. About Me Maybe not like Phil, but I hit bombs. Or at least, now I do. I’ve always had the luxury of distance off the tee but could rarely harness the power. I’ve tried a lot of drivers with a lot of different shafts and way too many adjustment tool configurations. Enter G410+ Specs Adam asked the forum staff to run through a TruGolfFit fitting and provide feedback…after I had already submitted my order for G410+. This process made me both happy and sad. Happy because the tool recommended G410+ as my top driver but sad because it selected a different shaft. Feedback from an iron fitting I had last summer indicated I was hitting the ball too low with too much spin. The solution was a higher launching, lower spinning shaft. I did not get fit for this driver but I applied that concept to my selection when I chose the Tensei CK Orange and a 10.5* head. The Tensei was the highest launching option available to me in X flex. The different shaft recommendation from TGF brought nerves while awaiting delivery but, after the range and a few rounds, my concerns relaxed. I’m not saying TGF is wrong (since I never did get to try the EvenFlow Black), but I am saying that the Tensei is a good fit for me. Looks (10 out of 10 points) I love me some turbulators. The decision to move away from the dragonfly was a wise one. I didn’t hate the dragonfly look, but I didn’t exactly love it either. Going back to smaller turbulators with some slight shape changes in the head really do it for me. The ball is framed nicely without the need for a painted alignment aid. The bottom graphics and badging look slick in red and black to bring the whole look together. In my opinion, Ping has totally nailed the look. Sound & Feel (9 out of 10 points) The Most Wanted tests have shown us that sound and feel, while totally subjective, actually play a role in the user’s opinion of the club. This leaves the door open for people to dislike the G410+ because this driver is loud. KABLAMOOOOOO. Not too far from a shotgun sound. People know when you’ve hit and especially when you’ve really caught it. On misses, it doesn’t sound like a different pitch, thud, whatever; it just changes in volume. The better you’ve struck it, the louder it is. I’ve uploaded portions of my session at Top Golf so you can hear it for yourself. 4 points for sound because I’m sure it’s not for everyone // Feel is top notch for both quality of life and quality of feedback. Impact feels fantastic but you still manage to gleam feedback as to where on the face you made contact. Due to the intense forgiveness, you wouldn’t know from the ball flight so the feel provides the little secret only you know. 5 points for feel, unmatched. Basic Characteristics (20 out of 20 points) Initially, the ball flight was on the high side at stock settings (weight in the middle and loft at a neutral 10.5*). I tinkered a bit with my swing before deciding to bust out the adjustment tool. After trying multiple options during a range session, I settled on the small “-” and the weight in the draw position. This has been my sweet spot and it hasn’t been changed since. Now, my ball flight is a mid-high and it’s cutting right through the wind but still high enough to clear most trees. Around mid-summer, I fought a wipey fade pretty bad with all my clubs. This prompted some aggressive practice at putting a draw back into my game. While my swing isn’t always delivering, the club certainly is. A proper draw swing yields a powerful draw flight for some extra roll out and placement. I’ve given this some effort in the past with previous drivers and was only able to produce a severe hook, not a draw. G410+ is giving me just enough to turn it over without hitting it off the planet. The incredible forgiveness has resulted in superb accuracy which, in turn, has resulted in optimal performance in pressure situations. In case you didn’t follow, I competed in a stroke play amateur tournament this summer and finished T-1 in my flight (lost in playoff) thanks to some great driving. The boom stick put me in Position A1 on almost every hole I pulled it. As I mentioned in feel, you can really feel the strike location even if the ball flight doesn’t reflect it. THIS is the biggest factor in forgiveness to me. Nothing like hitting it off the heel but still flying 250 down the middle. It can be your dirty little secret J Arccos captured some pretty staggering results driver over driver. I realized a 44 yard, 17% increase from a driver smart distance of 256 all the way up to my new smart distance of 300 yards on the nose. There is a LOT of data logged for both clubs so this is no fluke, G410+ is the real deal. Don’t get me wrong, I had potential for 300+ in my last driver and every one before that, but the newfound consistency allows me to swing away with confidence and power. I’m cranking driver over 300yards about half of the time I pull driver. Since I often need less-than-driver, this equates to 4-5 per round. This would be fine if the drives were 301, 302, etc….but they’re getting out to 315, 320, and further with a longest of 331. That long end of the distance is NOT something I used to have. KABOOM is right! I couldn’t be happier with the basic characteristics of the G410+. This baby has so much to offer to so many players. Would you like to be straight and long? Golf is the most fun it’s ever been for me thanks to this amazing wonder stick. On-Course Performance (30 out of 30 points) This has been a fantastic experience. The i500 review from last year was a lot of fun, but there’s nothing like letting driver rip all summer. On course, this baby performed amazingly. I can count on my hand the number of poor shots I’ve hit with it. This is the same number of drives that are the Indian’s fault. Moreso, there’s a number of drives that were also the Indian’s fault but the arrow saved the day. On course, I’m able to attack in a way I’ve never done before. With this, comes a learning curve of selecting new targets and discovering the proper lines around the course. That learning period brought some errors into play as well but I’m overall more dangerous on the tee. Prior to this test, length wasn’t really holding me back from reaching Par 5’s in two…it was the accuracy AND length. This summer, I’ve landed safely in GUR three times and converted one of them into an eagle. That’s three more than I had all of last year or the year before combined. Pretty staggering. This straight length is giving me more chances at reaching these Par 5’s and being able to convert is a great feeling. I can’t say I’d change anything at all. Maybe a new paint scheme for the next series just to keep people buying them but the performance is absolutely there. Ping has totally nailed this one. For many of my golfing years, I hadn’t really looked much at Ping due to the funky look they put on a lot of their clubs. Recent years have opened my eyes to the sheer performance quality (and improved looks) of their lines from top to bottom. I already looked at them as a legit player in the iron category but it’s great to see the performance carries all the way up to the big guy. Miscellaneous (8 out of 10 points) The whole package has been delivered. In addition to the performance qualities, the little creature comforts are fantastic as well. The tool is easy to use and looks nice, plus the headcover is top shelf. I’m typically a custom HC guy but I elected to use the stock HC for this test. It slides on/off easily, carries a nice look, and has shown no signs of wear. It’s also really nice that the usual corners have been cut into curves for an easier-to-wield offering. One thing I’ll ding the driver on here is the weight. I don’t like the fact that it comes out and needs to be placed when deciding to move it. I get that this is (or should be) a one-time adjustment but I believe the slider would’ve been a better choice. There’s bound to be players that prefer the weight between Draw and Neutral or Neutral and Fade. 2 points off for that. Play it or Trade it? (20 out of 20 points) What do you think? Absolutely, PLAY IT. I love this driver to the moon and back and wouldn’t trade it for the world. I’ll let other people give it a swing, but I don’t intend on letting it out of my sight. The G410+ has transformed my game and I’m so thankful for this opportunity to test it. Whatever price it’s listed at, it’s worth it. Conclusion Yes indeed, Ping G410+ is the best driver I’ve ever hit. I did get the chance to demo other current-year drivers and still feel this way. Top to bottom, it’s the best and you should give it a swing to see if it fits your game. It’s got a deadly combination of distance and accuracy with just enough adjustability to create a setup suitable to most players’ games. Couple this with a robust no-upcharge shaft offering and you’ve got yourself a winner. Give it a try! Final Score: (97 out of 100 points) Epilogue: I was a big fan of the texturizing on the face. If you run your fingernail over it, it'll catch & rattle like teeny tiny iron grooves. I can't say for certain, but it feels as if this roughness contributes to the forgiveness of the club. Finally, a swing/contact/sound/flight video. This was at the Top Golf at National Harbor, DC. The net at the back is 200 yards away but I can't say how tall exactly it is. Most of the shots were hitting the 4th & 5th section up and boinging back into play. Very happy with the explosiveness and piercing flight. According to the Top Golf data gatherer, exit speed hovered around 165mph for most shots. Thanks for reading!
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