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So I'll add two new twists to the mix. 1) CC guy responded to my email and changed everything except irons to stock shafts based on my "balk" at the price. Haven't really dug into it yet - but clearly he was able to "get close" with stock shafts (his words). 2) More interestingly - I had bought my son (30 year old) a Ping G400 for Xmas. Told him we would go back to PGATour Superstore and have him try the LST, SFT, etc so that he got the one he really hit the best. We did that this morning - and he ended up with a G400Max (yes, I'm a pushover dad who paid the $100 for his present "upgrade"). But the most interesting part is that I hit the G400Max with their stock shaft and the dispersion and distance were equal to and for 3 swings better in distance than the Titleist TS2 + $400 shaft. I also tested 3 of the 4 options for stock shafts on the TS2 and the PGATour Superstore guy (and the data) said the G400Max was a better option for me. My conclusion is that the approach described by Steddygolf and others is likely the way I'll go. Having read the thread about Fitting/Lessons vs Off the Rack, I can confidently say that I'm that "very motivated guy" in terms of improving my game. The club we've joined has incredible practice facilities and they are literally a 5 min drive from my house so I have no excuses not to improve. I'll take all the data from the fitting - be thankful for what I've learned there, and here from you fine folks - and piece together a set that should work great for at least the next couple of years as I work hard on my game, with lessons and lots of practice being key for me. That - and I'll send my current clubs back to the Smithsonian so they stop calling.... Thanks again for the thoughts and guidance.

@tchat07 We would be happy to send you the new revised protocols via email. We are close to having them up on the site. If you'd like send us an email [email protected] and we can get you squared away. Thanks! @Mike Lambert We would be happy to email you the new protocols as well.

I hope not to make many changes this year but I am sure there will be a few. With all these new drivers coming out and incredible claims that club will likely change at some point. Everything else is pretty set. I may refresh the wedges and get new grooves. I have been trying the PXG mini Gunboat H and its been so good. It may finally beat out my beloved Buttonback Newport 2 that has been in the bag for 5 years. The thing I like most about the PXG is the alignment line, with it I have been able to start more putts online. The biggest issue is adjusting to the difference in feel off the face. Ping G400 LST 8.5 set to 7.5 with Tensei Pro White 70TX PXG 0341 3 wood 13.5* HZRDUS Yellow 76 6.5 Ben Hogan FT Worth Hi 20* KBS Tour V 120X Ben Hogan FT Worth Black 4-P KBS Tour V 120X Ben Hogan Equalizers 50,55,60 KBS Tour V PXG Mini Gunboat H/ Scotty Cameron Buttonback Newport 2 Snell MTB Black and Red

That feeling when you're in a store and you see the sticks in your bag still selling for over a grand, and you know yours were free because you're part of the greatest golf site ever (before I was ever a moderator!):

Well, I'm through the first two weeks and my first impression is very impressed. I started at 101, and that had been where my swing speed has been at for a couple years now. The included radar unit matched my SC200, so that provided some peace of mind that my numbers were what I see on the course. 6 sessions later, I hit 113,112&113 tonight with my driver. So... 12 MPH in 12 days. I was hoping for a 10 MPH gain by the end of this. And if I don't get a single more MPH for the rest of this process, I'd still be happy with the results.

One thing to remember is at Club Champion you PAID FOR THE FITTING. Now, you get all of your information, and you buy the clubs elsewhere for a LOT less. They make money on the clubs, and then even MORE on the “build”. Make sure to communicate as Joe has said so the fitter knows what he’s looking at and how best to help you. I’ve been to CC three times and each time I told them up-front I’m not buying the clubs through them. Once they fitted me to a shaft and said it would cost me $400. Nah. I can get that shaft a LOT cheaper elsewhere, and did. They wanted $350 for an Oban Devotion. I got it brand new at Dallas golf, with the adapter, cut to my length, for $190..... Anyway, take the specs they give you and buy elsewhere. You’ll save a TON of money!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

So please share your secret... How did you get your wife's approval? I need to know

Just wanted to update on week 15. With the exception of the lightest club on my dominant side, all my top speeds were with my regular swing. The double step swing is getting better, but getting my body to learn the step back is going to take a minute. I ain't the most coordinated guy. I've had to pour over the videos to at least get it figured out there. I did get in nine holes yesterday and shot 48 with 4/7 fairways hit according to Arccos. I'm still struggling with my ball going more up than at 'em. Between that and the cooler weather I averaged 197 off the tee with a long of 215. It'll get there, I don't have as refined a swing as most of my fellow testers. I'm working on my Stage 2, just got to refine it a little more. Sent from my SM-G955U using MyGolfSpy mobile app

Connors report card came in and he's now a straight A student, 3.97GPA, whatever that means.

I greatly appreciate the replies and all the perspectives. The advice on lessons is spot on - and I should have also told you that I'm already signed up for lessons with the head of golf instruction for our club group. I'm clear that it's a lot of the "carpenter" as opposed to the "tools". But I do think my tools are way off. One thing that came out from a "quicky" session with the PXG rep at our club - which was confirmed by the CC fitter is that I need 1/2" longer shafts in my irons. As I mentioned in my original post - there was a lot of "good" in the fitting experience - meaning that I now know which irons I like best, and that I need a lighter weight graphite shaft - and have a sense for the specific shaft weights and types that felt the best and produced the best result. Having had a look at both the Srixon site and Titleist site it's clear that there are lots of "no up-charge" shaft options and I think I can get close to the specs from the fitting. Since I also have the Trackman data, and know what the dispersion and distance looks like for the driver and 6 iron (key test clubs in the fitting), I'm going to do a little experiment of my own at PGATour Superstore and hit the Titleist TS2 with the shaft that most closely matches to the one he spec'ed at a $400+ upgrade charge. Two of their four shaft options for the TS2 look like they have potential. I doubt they have the exact shaft choice for the irons that I saw on Srixon.com - but who knows - I may get lucky there. In fairness to CC and my fitter, I think "in the moment" I was shocked enough at the pricing and the pressure (after reading reviews that said "no pressure to buy") that I didn't think to propose alternatives that would drop the pricing - so have now sent the guy an email asking him to reconstitute the "bag" with lower cost shaft options, as I'm curious to see what he'll come up with. Again, thanks for the help and I'll report back as I progress.

70 at Bethpage from the tips and a 71 at Pebble today. It was indoors but will take it considering it is 12* out right now. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy

I'm with @PMookie in that you can probably build that exact bag, or at least one very close, for half the price. If you get the Srixon irons, that's $1500 off the PXG's, see, you can cut a lot of corners and still end up with a great bag. But DO NOT!!! buy directly from Club Champion. They will gouge you for prices. Take the fitting info and buy the bag yourself!

I’m interested in this answer as well. I’ve got AMEX points out the rear and SkyTrak is offered. Probably cost me more convincing her we need it than to just buy it. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy

Wowsers. That would be one impressive(ly pricey) bag. So is it the responsibility of the client to set a ceiling right off the bat or should the fitter ask what the budget is? If I were to go into one of these, I would specify that I only want to test shafts that are a minor upgrade cost. I might hit a few high end models at the end for giggles to see if I could tell the difference. I wonder if you tried any reasonably priced shafts or once he heard "I on a con$ulting company" if the only options you were given were high margin shafts. I have contemplated one of the Club Champion fittings as they are 50% off through January, but this sounds like purchasing a car, which I like as much as paper cuts under my fingernails. Does the trackman data show what other shafts you hit? Were there some cheaper options in a close second place? I don't know what your ultimate budget is. I would look at things in a $ per yard or $ per dispersion point of view. If I could deck out a whole bag for half that cost that is a few yards shorter and is a few percent less accurate, I would say I'd pocket the $3750 and take a few lessons.

Just checked my trending Handicap for the next revision, via The Grint... trending to a 15!!!! So freaking stoked about it! I’ve been grinding HARD for the last year. Start with a new coach tomorrow to try and get that down even further for 2019! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy

I don't have a lot to add here, but just want everyone to know the current thought on a national tournament. It is very much something Adam and the rest of the staff wants to do, but like most things that MGS does, we want to do it right and make it something special,. From the course, to the format and to the activities surrounding the outing. We don't want it to end up being 4 to 7 guys all from the same area showing up. That is more of a local/regional thing which I try to get at least one of those a year together here in the DC/MD area. And I highly encourage others like HarintheHat is doing, that Plaid did in Texas, and that Matt/Max/Mr. Theo did last year for Ohio. But this idea is still high on the "must do" list that we have, whether it ends up being this spring/summer or fall, and where that's all TBD. But we will keep you updated if and when anything definite starts taking place.

Apologies for a long post. I'm 59, and just got back into the game after 20 years of 2-3 rounds a year. At my best I was a 13 and now after starting back (about 8 rounds so far) I'm averaging low to mid 90's, but improving at decent rate. Clubs were 20+ years old - so I scheduled a full bag fitting at Club Champion. It was a very interesting experience - but I walked away at the end feeling like I had been at a used car dealer. The press to buy immediately was stronger than I expected - and I suspect that the fitter basically spec'ed me as a guy that can afford anything I want (he asked what I do and I told him that I own a consulting company) - so the full bag came to $7500 +. I didn't establish a "budget" going in - nor did he probe much on that front - and I didn't want to rule out things like PXG without a try (maybe my core mistake?). When the fitter realized that I wasn't going to buy on the spot, he said "what would it take to get you into the irons today?" I completely hadn't expected any pricing flexibility or high pressure and frankly was turned off by the way he handled the price discussion overall. So that's the bad part. The good part was I was surprised (pleasantly) about how the approach helped me get an idea of what might work best for me. For irons the Srixon 585 and PXG 0311XF were my favorites - with the Srixon having slightly better control - but about 8 yards on average less than the PXG's. I'm torn on whether the investment in PXG is the right answer - still open to it - but not convinced. Both irons were fit with a KBS Tour Graphite 80g shaft. The shafts added $85 to each iron cost from Club Champion. Where things got really crazy was driver, 3 wood, and hybrids. The driver that worked best was a Titleist TS2 - but he had me hitting a $405 upgraded shaft (Fujikura Speeder Evolution V) - which basically makes the total driver $1000+. For the 3 wood and hybrids, I preferred the Srixon Z F85 (3W) and H85 hybrids, but again the shaft upgrades were $315 for the 3W (Fujikura Atmos Red 6) and $165 for the hybrids (each) (Fujikura PRO 2.0 Hybrid). So just in driver, 3W and two hybrids we were at $2500+. Here's my dilemma. I'm going to buy new sticks for sure - and am frankly ok with spending a lot of money (but well short of $7500). What I'm not clear on is whether a guy that's shooting 90-95 currently is honestly going to get value from these high cost shafts. I do have a bad enough taste in my mouth about the guy that I can't see going back to Club Champion - so may explore a club builder that could work with all the data from the fitting (as I have all of it from the Trackman). Alternatively, I'm curious if there's a simple way to "map" the core characteristics of the shafts he spec'ed to the "stock" offerings from Titleist and Srixon, as again I find it really hard to believe that I'm worthy of the higher cost shafts. For example, Titleist offers 4 options in the TS2 - and I realize I can look at the specs and try to compare them to the specs of the Fujikura (as an example) but have zero idea if that approach even remotely makes sense. I suspect the PXG guy that comes to our club can likely spec that KBS shaft in a fitting - so if I can get my head around the price point and brand of PXG, that might be an option on the irons at their standard price without the Club Champion uplift for PXG. Srixon appears to have a lot of "no upgrade cost" options available too. I'd appreciate hearing from you folks on what you might suggest as a next step. My gut says that if I pick a stock graphite shaft in the Z585 offerings that's close to what he spec'ed - that it's likely to be very similar - but having read a lot of the forum posts I know how learned many of you are with respect to these things. Given my current abilities, I just have no feel for whether I could tell any real difference between 2 similar spec shafts that vary widely in price. Thanks in advance for any coaching or suggestions!

Dollar Cost Averaging!!!! My guess is you are a pretty smart guy. Consider this.......a custom fitting at this point in your development could look completely different 8 months from now leaving you with a $7500 investment that does not fit. At 59 your feet are not going to grow any more so your shoes will always fit, however, your golf game will grow, change, improve and sometimes digress as you increase frequency of play. I recommend making a modest investment in some one or two year old clubs before jumping in with both feet into the deep end of the latest technology. A set of “almost” new clubs will bring you close to today’s technology at a fraction of the price. I’d use these clubs for at least one full season before replacing them one piece at a time. Once you start spending more time around Golf and more importantly Golfers you are going to have the ability to test all sorts of clubs [emoji6] as well as honest open discussion about said equipment. As a basic estimate see below using EBay: Ping G Driver $200 Callaway Epic 3 Wood $120 Srixon irons 565 4i thru PW $329 Taylormade Spider putter $100 Wedges I’d buy new and can be had at $79 each from Cleveland Total estimated cost is less than $1000. If you ultimately spend $3500 for new clubs after using these “almost new” ones for a season then according to my South Carolina Public School education you’ve saved yourself a cool $3 grand. You can use that $3 grand to pay for my consultation fee [emoji16]. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy

Personally I wouldn't walk.... I'd run from your local CC store. I've never had a fitting experience at CC and I've made comments before about my one and only "visit" to a CC in Austin Texas. I only went there to see a store and look around. Nice place. But here's what I learned. A "salesman" ehem... fitter came over and we talked a little bit about their process/approach. At one point during our discussion I picked up a driver head of some brand as asked what would this cost for example. The salesman plucked a shaft off the wall and said, "oh about $600-$700" I recall. Gulp. I then asked how much is the head and how much for the shaft he selected. He said the head was like $250 - $300 and the shaft $400. Hmmm? I then asked wouldn't it be possible for me to be properly fit into a great driver with a $200 shaft? The salesman replied, "absolutely!" I don't know where you live JeffRamm but you might want to consider seeking out an independent fitter - builder for your new clubs. They're out there and some have way more years experience than most CC stores. These new club fitting boutiques sprang up after the advent of Launch Monitors IMO. There's a lot invested in these fancy stores where they sell the sizzle and you pay for all the show and fluff. My irons were custom fit and built by a guy that's been applying his trade for 30 years. He's a nationally recognized, accredited, award winning club fitter. He also uses a LM in conjunction with his vast experience. His fitting shop isn't fancy. It's functional, clean and appropriate for the task at hand. In other words it all business and no frills. Give your journey some thought and take your time before you make any commitments. You'll end up with great playing clubs and save a ton of cash over a CC type of boutique.

Only when they build them.... They take everything apart, make sure the clubs weigh the same, lofts are correct, and pure all of the shafts. Edel did the same thing when they built my irons, but for a LOT less! It’s not worth what CC charges. The info they give has all of the specs for each club, and they send all of the TrackMan data separated by club/shaft. The data and build recommendations are worth the price for the fitting. I chose different irons than they recommended, but I used their specs for my order from Discount Dan’s. I then found the shafts for the driver, and fairway metals, elsewhere, but again, I used their specs. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

I’m also 59 and was scheduled for a full bag at CC. I saw my instructor’s boss, Todd Sones at the Buffalo Grove Dome. He told me they have a Foresight GCQuad unit that measures the normal radar stuff, plus what the club face did at impact. I canceled my CC fitting and met my instructor, Mason Wall at the dome. 90 mins later, we figured out what I needed (new irons and different shafts for my GBB (2015) woods). I ended up with Mizuno JXP 919 Hot Metal Irons and wedges (2* upright) with PX LZ graphite and MCC +4 midsized grips. All standard upgrades from Mizuno, and worked perfectly. Between that and shafts from CPO, I’m at about $1,305. No puring, undercoating or sore arms from hitting a bunch of balls. You should have gotten the spec sheets from CC, so you will have options, price wise. It’s amazing how much BETTER I hit balls with the more upright iron heads. With arthritic hands, the graphite shafts and MCC +4 felt great, with no “bee stinging” in my left pinky and ring finger (from a shattered knuckle, eons ago). Hopefully, you’ll find a more cost efficient version of what you need.

I sous vide all my steaks now. Finish in a cast iron with garlic and butter to get that crust. Perfect medium rare every time!

I'd be happy to replace golfinnut in the testing if you're looking for someone

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@jefframm you sound like a perfect case study for a question from @revkev. Go through the manufacturer on the club purchases. Play enough rounds to get a good idea of how much your new fitted clubs have improved your game. Then get some lessons with your giant stash left over. Play some more rounds and report back in the thread below!

LOL! I think that one might need to go into the, "What's your worst joke?" thread.

Played a quick 9 this afternoon. Sunny, 54°, couldn’t help myself. Ground is an absolute big right now after a week straight of rain. Shot 45. Had only one triple on a par 5. This round got me to 54 holes since last Saturday. Hoping to play 18 after my lesson tomorrow and then again Sunday with a buddy. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy

e-mailed Thanks for participating on the forums. It's cool to see OEM's interact with our members, even the ones who weren't selected to participate in the official review. Top notch!

This kind of positive review is bad for my bank account.... That said, my miss is a hook, and so I'll have to do a real fitting to make sure it isn't too draw biased.

Glad you guys figured out the radar. When the number blinks that means it recorded the same speed twice.

Those 18 extra swings are tough!! It was 39º when I did my 3rd session of Level 3 today. I was sweating when I finished, and yes I'm out of shape. The double step swings are a little better today than when I started on Monday, but still feel awkward.

Honestly: I have a very kind, gracious wife. The church takes good care of us, but not extravagantly (we wouldn't want them to be extravagant). My wife's frugality in everyday shopping practically adds 30% to my salary, in terms of getting value per dollar. So all that to say: I haven't got much advice. She's better than I deserve, not just in this, and I'm grateful.

Hey Mate, Just received mine last week and have played 3 round now with the Pure Soft X (yellow) and absolutely love them. I have always played with either the NXT s or when I am feeling cheap the DT soft but in all honesty I doubt I will ever buy something else than these Pearl balls. I don't think I will find another ball with the same price - quality comparison

Club champions job is to sell you their services of fitting plus club building. They don’t like to or rarely carry the stock shafts so you are going to pay a premium for everything. While tryin to find shafts with similar specs could save you money it’s also possible they feel and/or play different than what you were fit for. I don’t think anyone needs uncharged shafts but it does help to be fit to the right shaft and head combo. I was set on p790 with kbs $ taper earlier in the year. Fitter changed to the nipping modus 120 and the feel and performance changed right away. I went to a pxg fitting expecting either of those shafts to be what I walk away with and instead ended up in px 6.0 I would find a demo day of a trusted fitter that carried mist brands and a selection of stock shafts and get fit that way.

Don't forget the 9 degree head is the + version this year

48* today, windy and light drizzle. Played the best I've played for the last 7 months. Only missed 4 fairways, but missed 8 greens in regulation. Long game was great, wedges were better than previously and I put it down to the video on hip kickers I posted a few days ago. Shot 75 which I'll take for winter golf. Just need to keep working on the drills in the video.

I'm surprised to hear this. IMHO it would take a full year to plan before a launch. MGS and perhaps some vendors would have to underwrite this and it wouldn't be cheap. I believe for a national scale event it would require dividing up the US into regions and have qualifiers throughout the year with those winners or placeholders advancing to the National Championship in the fall. It'd be a big deal all around. Would I play in such an event? Maybe. Show me the plan.

That means you should be a very proud parent!

Hey now!!! Watch it!

Nice. I wish I could say that. I'd be stoked, too.

Whenever all you boys are ready to come to Hawaii, let me know.

Whichever one gets me the longest distance! Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy

Yikes, that is cold for golf! I'm just starting to get less awkward on those single step swings, it's going to be pretty funny when I get to the doubles. One more week before the kneeling swings for me, I think that will be interesting too. I bookmarked for inspiration this instagram video that was posted about 10 pages back:

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I've been so close to pulling the trigger on a number of ebay things, but I'm just too cowardly to do so. Did get a new glove for the upcoming season though, UA Strikeskin Tour.

Great idea- ya know Scotland is pretty good for golf courses........ /maybe I'll win the lottery by 2020 and can join you

There’s a review about the Pearl Balls: https://www.todaysgolfer.co.uk/features/equipment-features/2018/august/titleist-pro-v1-vs-mail-order-golf-balls/

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Stage 2 Official Forum Member Review SuperSpeed Golf by sirchunksalot 1/13/2019 I would to thank MyGolfSpy and SuperSpeed Golf for taking the chance and giving me the opportunity to do this review of the SuperSpeed Training System. I also want to thank my fellow reviewers and all the members of this community for getting involved and for the support you've given us. Who doesn't want more club head speed? There is an entire industry built out of this one goal. From work out programs, club designers, and innumerable articles have been written all towards the goal of hitting a little dimpled ball as far as possible. Enter SuperSpeed. Their program is based on overspeed training designed to retrain your brain to swing a golf club faster. Using a system of differently weighted clubs, your mind and body learn to achieve this goal. Does it work? That's the question that MyGolfSpy is hoping that we can answer. We have been tasked to give a full review of this product and the system that SuperSpeed employs. Physical Product The SuperSpeed system uses a fairly simple training system with an advanced amount of research to back it up. They use specifically weighted "speed sticks" built within a specific weight range based on driver weight and swing speed. The ideal range is to have a stick that is 20% lighter, 10% lighter, and 5% heavier. After doing the math, my ratios are 19, 9, and 6. When I first got fitted into the senior set, I didn't know what to think. After looking at the numbers, I think it's where I needed to be. Each speed stick is a gripped driver shaft with different sized weight on the end and are specifically color coded to make it easier to switch between during training. The coloring on the shaft makes spotting the right stick simple. These clubs are definitely well built. I've hit the ground, the pavement, and one radar. Everything is still tight and in one piece. There is a scuff on the weight of my blue stick from the pavement, but it's cosmetic and not anything that will cause structural damage. When I got the SuperSpeed System, the one thing I wasn't too fond of were the grips. I'm a fan of Winn Dri-Tac grips and the ones on the speed sticks just weren't my style. After almost 3000 swings, which is nearly 1000 with each stick, I was wrong. I had my driver regripped last year and it's already showing damage. The only thing I see on the SuperSpeed grips is a little discoloration. I also want to give kudos to SuperSpeed for also sending us a kneeling pad. I had bought one at Lowe's, but I find the one from SuperSpeed to be more comfortable, but if you're on a budget I would recommend you buy one somewhere. With this testing, we also received a swing speed radar. I highly recommend to anyone that wants to do this training purchase one, because it gives feedback and motivation to swing faster. Overall, I feel that SuperSpeed is a high quality product, that is build to last for the program duration and beyond. Total Score (20/20) Program The SuperSpeed method is really easy to understand, like a wise man once said, "if you can swing a golf club, you can do SuperSpeed." I'm not quoting exactly. For the first 6 weeks, we were doing 2 drills: regular swings and a step change. Each drill consisted of 3 swings on our dominant and non-dominant sides and going from our lightest club to our heaviest. The step-change and non-dominant swings were awkward to get used to, but over time, they became second nature. I've found the step-change to be very beneficial, because it gave me a better feel for using the ground to power my swing. I could feel myself pushing off my right side and shifting forward. I noticed during my range sessions that I had a tendency to hang back on my trail foot and this drill helped to instill the feel for a better weight shift. Our second stage of training introduced us to a kneeling swing that helps with our torso rotation. We knelt on a pad, with our legs close together, in order to restrict our lower body and put the focus on our upper body to do the work. One of the best things about learning these drills is the fact they are readily available online. You can find the videos on YouTube and the SuperSpeed website. The customer service is phenomenal! We have had 2 conference calls with the SuperSpeed crew and they have been extremely helpful and informative. Our first call was to introduce us to the training program and answer any questions we had starting out. The second conference call was to go over the kneeling drill and make sure we were doing it properly. I've been in contact with both Daisy-May and Kyle Shay discussing my issues gaining speed during the first 6 weeks. They were more than happy to take a look at videos I sent and offer feedback. For anyone who purchases SuperSpeed, I highly recommend taking advantage of their customer service. This is a huge commitment. 72 week to be exact. I would like to give an opinion on whether or not this is the right amount of time to do the program, but I'm going to differ to the experts. They have poured in the time and research to optimize the program and I'm confident that they know what they're doing. Doing each stage, there are peaks and plateaus and I feel like SuperSpeed has the right formula to maximize gains. My only issues is that the program seems a little more geared towards people who have indoor access and that it's sometimes hard to self-motivate. I can understand that not everyone can do the exercise indoors. It requires space to swing a club. It's the motivation factor that I can see being an issue with anyone that buys a set. We are extremely fortunate to have a forum where we can discuss what is going on and get encouragement when we are having problems. For this reason, I'm going to deduct a point. Total Score (19/20) Performance Now to the part we're all concerned about...does it work? For my scoring process, I'm going to split this up into 4 parts. 1. Comparing Workout routines and course benefits 2. First six weeks. 3. Next eight weeks. 4. Overall performance. Part One This is the first golf specific training I've ever done, other than going to the range. I'll be honest, the last time I did anything resembling a workout was when I started working at the auto factory and it was mandatory. We do stretch everyday in order to reduce the chance of injury and I make it a habit to do some of those everyday outside of our required time. On the course performance has been a big concern for a lot of people in this forum. The first few weeks, while on the course, I did notice some issues. Mainly with ball flight. I found that I was pulling and pull-hooking a lot of drives. I've also struggled with ballooning shots. I believe that this might have to do with a steeper swing that I've developed since starting the training. It could also be the fact that I'm swinging a longer driver (46.5 inches) and it could be causing the ball to spin more. It was suggested that I get fitted for a new driver during this training, but in order not to skew the data I did not make the change. I can imagine someone shelling out $250 and then being told that they needed to spend $500+ more to make the system work getting pretty mad. I am looking to get fit sometime this year, as I'm seeing that I don't have the right driver for my swing. Since getting Arccos at the start of October, my fairways hit stat has improved. My last round I hit 9/14 and overall am hitting 50%. A great number for me. I haven't seen an increase in distance yet. I'm chalking that up to cooler temperatures and wet weather. Did I mention it's been rainy? 6 inches in November and almost 9 in December. The thing that I'm extremely happy with is my ball striking. I might have to change my name, I'm thinking sirchunksoccassionallybutnotasmuch. No? Okay, if I decide to it'll be something shorter. As far as the program goes, I think it is great for someone who is looking to gain distance without having to dedicate themselves to spending hours a week in the gym. I am going to deduct points at this stage of the review for ball flight problems. If something changes in the coming weeks, I'll be sure to let you know. Part One Score (8/10) Part Two The first 6 weeks were a struggle for me as far as gaining distance. The numbers were there with the speed sticks, but no matter what I tried, the driver numbers were abysmal. At one point, I would have given up if it wasn't for the support of my fellow testers and forum members. Plus, getting to do this review was a big deal for me and I had no desire to disappoint MyGolfSpy. I sincerely appreciate you all! Here at MyGolfSpy data rules. After 6 weeks, my speed increased 1.4 mph, which is 32% of the the 5% increase promoted by SuperSpeed. I am going to round up, since I did see improvement in ball striking. Part Two Score (4/10) Part Three The second phase of our SuperSpeed training stretched for the last 8 weeks and introduced us to the kneeling drill. This is where I saw my best increases. After a couple of weeks, I started seeing averages reaching 92 mph, but I just wasn't hitting that on the course. I'm a radar junky. I can't help it. The speed on the course was still hanging around the 90 mph range. I think it's easier to swing freely on the range where there is less pressure to hit within a smaller area. At the conclusion of week 14, it was back to the driving range on a wet January day to get the results. I hit 20 drives with a low speed of 91 and a high of 100. My average totaled out to 94.6 mph, which is an increase of 4.2 mph and a 4.6% increase since the week 6 speed test. Coming into this testing, I was hoping for something around 2% after this set of protocols. So 4.6 is a win in my book. Part Three Score (10/10) Part Four I decided to break this all up in order to give you all a breakdown of my thinking as I'm scoring total performance. I also hit more shots with my driver to get swing speed averages, but there is a method to my madness. SuperSpeed claims a permanent increase in speed and I wanted to mix in shots, at various times, during my range session. I figured the best way to measure this was to simulate all the exertion from a round of golf. I didn't think being fresh and taking only 5 swings would give real world data. Coming into this test, I was looking to increase my swing speed by 7%, which would put me right at 95 mph. I also wanted to see how doing this training would be for someone who didn't always have a lot of free time in which to do training. My work schedule changed in October and that put me getting home most days at 6:45 pm, leaving me only a couple of hours before bed. I was extremely pleased in how easy it was to get the protocols in during the work week. Overall, they take about 30 minutes and were not problematic for me. I actually found myself looking forward to them after a long day of work. Overall, my swing speed increased 5.6 mph, which is a 6.4% increase. It is short of the 7 mph increase that would have brought my swing speed up to 95, but just barely. Part Four Score (9.5/10) Performance Score (31.5/40) Keep or Regift I've really enjoyed the opportunity to take part in this test. As a high handicapper and relatively new member of this forum, it has been a great experience. This review process is not for the faint of heart, but I would definitely do this training again in a heartbeat. I am definitely looking forward to sharing my experiences with all of you for the next year. As for the SuperSpeed product and who it might benefit, I would say almost everyone. The only players I wouldn't recommend it to would be someone who is just starting the game. I think it would be great for them after they get the basics down. This is a challenging game and I think it would just mess them up, until they have a relatively repeatable swing. On the other end of the spectrum, tour players use SuperSpeed, so I think that no matter how good you are you could benefit. This is a really solid product that has helped me improve my game as someone who struggles to break 100. I can't wait for warmer drier weather to really gauge how much it has helped. Keep or Regift Score (20/20) Conclusion SuperSpeed Golf uses overspeed training to help golfers lower the limiters that we place on ourselves by having us use specifically weighted clubs that we can swing faster than our normal driver speed. Doing this resets the limits we place on ourselves and allows a faster speed to become our new normal. As someone who has been playing golf for years and just starting to take the game seriously, I have seen real benefits from using SuperSpeed. Whether it's my better ground contact and the increase in speed, my game has improved. Now if only SuperSpeed would come out with something to improve my putting... I think this training could help anyone who is looking to increase distance, or for the player who is looking to regain lost distance. I'm not going to lie, it is a huge commitment with a training schedule the encompasses 72 weeks. But like everything in life, the work does pay off. The first 14 weeks didn't exceed my expectations, but it did meet them. Does it work? Yes. Final score (90.5/100)