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  1. revkev

    How'd you play?

    Sure it’s easy to have that attitude when you play 4 times a week like Sluggo. [emoji31][emoji56] Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
    8 points
  2. Not the greatest score today, but it was a great round with my dad at the Nicklaus course at Pine Hills in Plymouth, MA. Got paired up with two members who were great about where to aim and what to avoid. Unfortunately they weren't aware that my father & I have ZERO control over where our ball goes... if it goes forward, we're happy! 5 penalty strokes which really hurt, all of them off the tee. I had another hole where I caught the driver dead perfect and blew through the fairway and landed in thick straw. 4 shots later and I was back on the fairway. I did have 3 pars so I'll take what I can. The greens here are FAST, like "putt from 10 feet off the green and you're rolling off the other side of the green 50 feet away" fast. Par 3s were kryptonite to me today - 3 of them were triples. Ugh. Need to work on that. 54/56 = 110
    7 points
  3. Kenny B

    Random Thread

    You got personalized plates, didn't you?!
    6 points
  4. I read a little bit of split motivations here. You're a good ballstriker with "easy" swings, all over the place when you try to hit it harder. You want to get control again. So why not swing easier? I know why, because you have a new driver, you expect to hit it further, and you're giving it that extra "juice" to get the distance. I'm speaking a bit from personal experience. I was fitted for a driver late last fall. For a while after getting it, I'd subconsciously give it a bit extra, because I expected a big increase in distance. That wasn't rational, the club was longer than my previous driver, but not by a bunch of yards, still, I expected "more", so I gave more effort. And it didn't work, I was all over the place. If I'm "patient" with my swing, if I let the club do what its supposed to do with just normal effort on my part, I get really good results.
    5 points
  5. Regarding you question on gapping, you should have about 12-15 yards between clubs. You might not have that because you aren’t swinging well and making good contact or the clubs aren’t setup correctly to provide that gap. My guess based on your post is that you are chasing numbers and trying to hit the ball as far as possible with every shot. I think you are just swinging hard and not fast which gets you out of sequence and results in inconsistent distances. You seem to be pointing at the fitting for causing the driver problems. What was you ball flight like before the fitting? I doubt that even a bad fitting would change a good ball flight to a low hook. My non educated, I stayed at a holiday inn express, opinion is that you are swinging out of your shoes because your club was fitted and you have gotten your sequencing totally messed up. As a 5.6 you have to have a decent swing and not consistently experience what you describing
    5 points
  6. Gurra

    Lefty Thread

    Lefty pic from Sweden, getting colder by the day.. hope to extend the season with warm clothes and will power.. This was a 7 iron from about 160 yards (to center green according to gps, pin far right and in the back) away from a blindspot behind a hill and some trees, pretty happy with the result. Missed the birdie putt though
    5 points
  7. cksurfdude

    Random Thread

    After golfing yesterday, walking back to the parking lot, saw a car with personalized plates.... GR8 GOL4
    5 points
  8. This is a big factor I think, must ask our club if they would consider doing this. I turned slope ON accidentally, fortunately today was just a friendly.
    4 points
  9. Our round yesterday was wrapping up just after 6:30pm so it was starting to get just a bit darker, and I didn't have any issues. In fact, this was a higher-end course with reflectors on all the pins, and I was able to get yardages with just a laser or two. I found getting the correct distance with the NX9 to be so much easier on this course than some others I play. Granted, I'm usually at the muni or a par 3 where technically a rangefinder isn't really needed. However, on a course with reflective pins the NX9 shined. I still accidentally turned off slope twice, however. Still an issue there.
    4 points
  10. CarlH

    Random Thread

    Heading to Pensacola/Fort Walton Beach tomorrow for my 50th high school reunion (Fri and Saturday). The first night of the reunion will be at the high school homecoming football game and it just happens to coincide with my 68th birthday. Sadly, I won't be taking my clubs with me this trip. When I get back at the end of the month, we'll be taking off for 2 weeks in the motorhome to visit Moab and eastern Utah. I'll take my clubs, but not sure how much golf I'll get in. Maybe all of my bad habits will disappear while I'm not playing....as if!
    4 points
  11. Yadirtydog!

    How'd you play?

    I played in a 4 man best ball tournament yesterday from the Senior tees. 5400 yards. It was a total joke but the money was for charity, so it all worked out. 3 of the 4 in our group were low single digit. The longest we had into a par 4 was 55 yards. The longest shot we had into a par 5 was 145. We drove a couple of par 4s. We finished the day at 51. It was a hell of a lot of fun at least!
    4 points
  12. Bought a used Titleist 915F 3 wood with S70+ stiff shaft in superb condition, looked new! Just been able to get one quick session with it but so far so good. Getting those good condition used clubs in specific specs for me as a lefty is quite a rare find.. Atleast in Sweden.
    4 points
  13. Par 4, 18th hole at Pine Hills. I hit my drive up the left side, and wanting to avoid water further up on the left, hit my 5i well to the right and in some trees. Nothing too bad, but I knew I had to go low to avoid branches. I hit a punch 7i that smacked the pin and landed 1" from the cup. One of our playing partners then chipped up, clipped my ball, and ended up in the hole. I still got the par!
    4 points
  14. ... Fwiw, I have never thought or stated a shorter shaft is better for 100% of those that play golf. Just the majority. I just haven't seen the video's claiming average golfers hit longer shafts farther. Robots? Absolutely as of course a longer shaft will produce more distance than a shorter shaft with all things being equal. It is the all things being equal that puts the fly in the ointment. But I think the article you linked said it well "In fact, a shorter shaft should help you find the sweet spot more often and may even add distance. Who thought the simplest of golf tips could make such a difference."
    4 points
  15. GolfspyChris posted this last week, so I'd give it a bit more time, but keep checking back. Thanks to the most active, passionate and engaged forum in the business! We've narrowed it down to 4-6 final designs which will be announced shortly. Here's what happens next: 1) Each finalist will receive a one-off copy of that individual design. 2) A final winning design will be decided via voting on social media, etc. Stay tuned!!!
    4 points
  16. Wilson Profile Junior Set Official MGS Forum Review by Deejaid and Layla- Stage 2 After Layla was selected and received her Wilson Profile clubs it was time to ditch the old cut-down wedge and putter and get to work hitting all the clubs in her new bag. Layla goes to a weekly junior golf clinic and we added a weekly range session as well for practice. Looks 20 out of 20 Layla really liked the color of the clubs and I liked the look of the clubs as well. I was particularly impressed with the wedge as it has a nice shape that keeps the shape of a grownup blade wedge while adding some perceived forgiveness with the small cavity. Sound Score 15 out of 15 Layla is 7 year old beginner so the sound of hitting the ball is great to her. It’s when she swings and misses that she doesn’t care for the sound [emoji16] Feel Score 15 out of 15 Again, a 7 year old beginner can’t really discern a good feel or a bad feel of a golf club so again we will default to a 15 of 15 as the clubs, as far as I can tell, seem to be well made and were comfortable for Layla to play. Basic Characteristics Score 22 out of 25 The clubs performed well when Layla was able to putt a good strike on the ball. The grips are nice and the entire set has graphite shafts which makes them light enough for a beginning junior to swing. The one area I think the club could be improved would be the putter. I think a mallet putter would help young players gain confidence and would be a nice option to have available. Layla said she likes her putter but also thought it would be cool to have a mallet putter like her left-handed sister now has in her bag. Total Junior Score Score 87 out of 90 Sponsor Evaluation Score 9 out of 10 It’s been a fun few months working with Layla on her golf game. I can honestly say she is more enthusiastic about practicing now that she has a quality Junior set of clubs, and that enthusiasm hasn’t waned. She is starting to see positive results and asks to go to the range so she can practice more which is a positive sign. I have been taking my daughters to junior golf clinics for over a year now and having a background in education I try to pay attention to what the instructors are teaching and also what type of equipment the kids are using and what works for them. I’ve seen many junior sets and I can honestly say the Wilson Profile Junior set is one of the best sets I’ve seen at its price point of $139.00 and rivals sets costing $100 more. For a seven year old just learning the game, Wilson included just the right amount of clubs to have them experience all aspects of the game; tee shots, hybrid and iron play, chipping, and putting, without overwhelming. Layla’s set is holding up well with only normal wear to the clubs. If I could change anything I’d like to see some sort of attachment that could make the blade putter look like a mallet so the child could choose which putter style works for them. I’d also love to see an adjustable length set of clubs, perhaps the grip section could be unscrewed with a longer grip section screwed on when the child grows. The rate in which children grow is always a concern leading parents to many times buy clubs for their child to “grow into” which only leads to frustration for a novice trying to learn the game with ill-fitting clubs. Final Score 96 out of 100 Overall, I believe Wilson has hit a home run with the Wilson Profile Junior line of clubs and for 7-9 year old the medium set is a great fit. For the price of a new wedge you can get your child a great set of clubs that will help them get more enjoyment out of the game. Now I need to wrap up this review, Layla wants to hit some more balls. [emoji846]
    4 points
  17. mr.hicksta

    How'd you play?

    Red Wing Lake Golf Course. Quick 9 after class. 38, 100% FIR, 67% GIR and 17 putts (two 3 putts). What a difference a coupe days makes!
    3 points
  18. fozcycle

    How'd you play?

    Played Old South GC in Blufton, SC today.....just off Hilton Head Island. Front nine was super, shot 40. Back nine was a nightmare, shooting a 46....several holes were forced carry over marshland to a landing area then another forced carry to the green.....missed the Par by a fraction of an inch! Overall play was fun, the fairways had plenty of grass under the ball. My cost was $45(as a timeshare owner)....one Par 3 had a deal the pro shop would double what you bet if you get on the green, which I bet $20 and made the green....140 yards. I am taking off tomorrow and driving to Savannah with the girls. Hopefully I will play Thursday & Friday before returning home on Saturday. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy
    3 points
  19. golfertrb

    How'd you play?

    Played with my eldest son in our regular Monday game. We played at Westwood in Norman OK - it's quite a short course only 6162 from the black tees with a par of 70 but a good little course. They had a rep from Titleist who was giving out 2-ball sample packs so that was nice - they gave me a pack of ProV1's and AVX and my son Tour Soft and AVX. I played the round with the ProV1 - such a great ball (no duh I know). I started out with 3 birdies in a row (Par 5, par3, par4) before I cooled off a bit. I had a good round although I missed more greens than normal. I missed a few on the fringe which left me good putts so that number is a bit misleading. No bogies but I was never in trouble really - I only had to work for one par and that was on the 6th hole. The 6th is a short par 5 of 465 but it is an awkward driving hole for me and I heeled my tee shot. I hit a short fade to the middle of the fairway but laid up to 62 yards. I hit what I thought was a perfect low pitch that flew the green. I had a delicate 4th but the greens were wet and receptive and I was able to get up and down. The I only had 22 putts because of taking putts from off the green so that number is a bit deceptive as well. As always, I had a great time with my son - I really treasure my Monday rounds with him. FIR 9/12 GIR 10/18 Putts 22
    3 points
  20. GolfSpy MPR

    Fit For Golf

    Just got Mike's email blast about the upcoming program he's releasing that incorporates the SuperSpeed training. The biggest news from my perspective? The opening week pricing for it is going to be $49. In all honesty, the price of the programs is the biggest thing that kept me from pulling the trigger before, but I'm pretty strongly leaning to getting in on this one for my off-season work this winter.
    3 points
  21. CarlH

    SST Pure does it work

    I did have my graphite iron shafts pured for my current set of irons that I ordered. Since I don't have before and after data to compare, I can't comment if it was worth the $$ or not. Here's what I do know....I don't have any doubts niggling in the back of my mind that maybe if I'd only done this....blah blah. In any case, I'm hitting my irons very consistently and any faults with the results lay solely on me and my swing. My hybrids, wedges, and woods are not pured (Driver was). I hit the hybrids pretty straight. Driver's another story, but again, that's more me than anything else. Bottom line: I don't really know one way or the other.
    3 points
  22. Shankster

    Random Thread

    Nothing like a late September cold to knock all of my energy out.
    3 points
  23. Alright @poprocksncoke, it's finally time for at least one of us to get a win this year! I wish you luck, but not too much.
    3 points
  24. MrKindness

    Pet Pictures

    That, and he is built for relaxation!
    3 points
  25. THEZIPR23

    Fit For Golf

    If you are on twitter follow @fitforgolf. He always post exercises. As for the program rotational exercises and explosive exercises are what have stuck out to me. You are on the right track focusing on those muscles.
    3 points
  26. Layla’s Stage 2 is up! https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/32703-2019-official-forum-member-review-wilson-juniorteen-complete-sets/?do=findComment&comment=562061 Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
    3 points
  27. In northwest Ohio: Short sleeves and shorts for the next two weeks - high 70's every day. Perfect golf weather.
    3 points
  28. This is the reason why I love Costco. Taking care of their customers...
    2 points
  29. Big money

    How'd you play?

    Went out for a solo 18 hole round since league and men’s club are over. Just a beautiful day with barely a soul on the course. Oddly, I was so relaxed but played so poorly. I started off snap hooking my driver- 3 and 4 irons all over the lot. Than near the end of the round I started hitting huge push slices with the driver that went right of right. The short irons were bad as well. Started off as weak pushes and finished with pulls left. I guess in the scope of things it doesn’t matter since I was a solo. But can’t explain how this total break down seems to creep in quite frequently. My clubs are all custom fit and yet the dispersion is so erratic. I’m always monitoring my setup - stance and ball position along with a good tempo. Really frustrated now
    2 points
  30. getting a full bag fitting on October 9th at TrueSpec.... (it is free...couldn't pass it up!) if it happens before the Ping fitting I'll be curious if the 410 is one of the irons that is a good match my guess is the forgiveness + distance it will be....
    2 points
  31. MDGolfHacker

    Lefty Thread

    But..but..but...the golfer is a righty?!
    2 points
  32. tony@CIC

    How'd you play?

    Last Men's League 18 today. I played terrible on the front including a double and a triple on 2 par 5's. Ended the front with a 50. Did better on the back, including a bird on a par 5 with a 44. For a total of 94. Drives were all straight but my gap wedge just didn't want to cooperate.
    2 points
  33. Honestly, teeing off with the 4i and cranking it 235yds+ fairly consistently has been favorite shot Outside of that, I had a great shot that put me 5ft to pin from 135yds out with the GW!
    2 points
  34. THEZIPR23

    Fit For Golf

    He doesn't but he doesn't say it won't help either. He advocates for strength first to help support joints ligaments etc. For example he focuses on increased separation between spine and pelvis. It both strengthens and improves flexibility.
    2 points
  35. Tarheelvolvo

    Fit For Golf

    Yep, I've always done squats, deadlift, bench, and shoulder press as my "main 4." Maybe I should look at the overspeed piece and some more explosive movements. I was talking to our gym director/head trainer this morning and he gave me a few explosive types exercises to work on swing speed. One was using a big rubber band secured down low and with arms down low and rotated body to the right, you then explode up and out, swinging the arms from low-right to high-left (like a golf swing follow-thru) and rotating hips and torso to get that explosive power. Also started reading a lot about the "hip hinge" and working on movements that add weight/power to that motion (aka: deadlift, among others). Would think Kettle bell swings would also be a good movement to add back into rotation since that's an explosive hip-hinge movement that also works shoulder strength. The last thing that I don't think @edingc or @THEZIPR23 mentioned was flexibility. Does Mike advocate for yoga/pilates work mixed into weight training? Going to look at adding that into my mix as well to stave off injury and keep all joints and ligaments loose! EDIT: Ha, just saw this article in my feed and I definitely fall into the "body mass" category @ 6'4" 235, but good to keep in mind for those that want to lose weight... https://www.golf.com/instruction/fitness/2019/09/23/two-different-kinds-of-golf-swings-fitness/
    2 points
  36. NFL analysts are really something. The Bills were forecasted to win 6 games on average. Now that they’re 3-0 it’s a soapbox of “well, they played poor teams.” They have a long way to go but would it be the worst thing in the world to say wow, these guys are playing a good team concept of disciplined football?! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
    2 points
  37. edingc

    Fit For Golf

    Curious, were you already doing squats and deadlifts as part of your previous programming? Mike still definitely favors being strong in golf per the Golf360 podcast I was listening to. His exercises do focus on a lot of rotational strength, but to paraphrase what he said during the podcast, a overall strong person who can move significant weight in the main exercises (squat, deadlift, bench, etc.) has a lot of potential for more speed in the swing. For those who are significantly strong already, he recommended overspeed-type training (SuperSpeed) to unlock that additional speed. For those who are weaker, he recommended more gym time adding to the amount of weight lifted. For most, this will be a combination of the two. For me, this means I need to focus on lifting heavier things. I'm not weak (well, not as weak as I was in the past), but adding weight to my deadlifts, squats and bench has the potential to help me more moving into next season.
    2 points
  38. STILL loving this putter- birdied 3 of the first 5 holes today holing putts all over 20 feet. NO, repeat NO 3 putts. I'm now worrying when will the honeymoon period end? they always end don't they
    2 points
  39. uglyhats.com?
    2 points
  40. You guys are doing an awesome job with your reviews! Well done!!
    2 points
  41. Hey I'm Anthony From NJ. Happy to be here! Playing golf for 18 years and hover around a 9. I love everything about golf I check out this site and listen to the podcasts often, so I joined. From Neptune NJ, home course is any of the county courses. We have good golf here but its seasonal. Firefighter I think we know why I picked this name...
    2 points
  42. I was checking in at the Pro Shop and a guy walked up behind me obviously irritated. While he didn’t state his reason for doing so he did ask the Pro to cancel his membership. The Pro’s response was typical of what I tend to see across the industry...........an attitude of arrogance and indifference. People may remember what you say, they could remember what you do, they will always remember how you make them feel. I’ve met some really great folks on the Golf Course and I’ve met twice that number of Arrogant a$&holes. There is so much competition for people’s time and money, in order to remain competitive you must be completely committed to customers experience. Whenever I take a break it’s usually related to the negative attitudes around me and not the sport itself. I’m perfectly ok with playing bad because I have realistic expectations. I play a lot of 9 hole golf so time is also not a factor. I think the number one reason Golfers leave the sport is because of a decline in the enjoyment factor. The Golf Community as a whole needs to spend more time developing a culture committed to the players overall experience. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
    2 points
  43. robertana.c.3

    Lefty Thread

    Lefty cheat to next hole...
    2 points
  44. I’ve not heard one negative about the G410 driver from owners in TV. If there’s one place to get negative is a retirement community. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
    2 points
  45. daviddvm

    How'd you play?

    Great attitude ! We should all keep that in mind...golf is fun
    2 points
  46. Sluggo42

    How'd you play?

    Interesting discussion on playing “emotions”. I’m very fortunate in that I get to play 4-6 rounds per week. What I’ve discovered is that very simply put, some days you have it, and some days you don’t. My round the other day when I stunk up the place was funny, because we were discussing this concept as we were playing. It almost became funny when one of us hit a bad shot, and everyone had a smile after a bad shot, because we all know it’s not the norm. Because we see each other hit hundreds of great shots most of the time. but some days.... you just don’t have it. No need to get all pissy about it, because we’re amateurs really. We just give a *sigh*, perhaps an eye roll, and a laugh, then off to the next shot. But we also know that we will play tomorrow, so no big deal.
    2 points
  47. tony@CIC

    Lefty Thread

    Funny - but the big question: is the wedge a 56 or 60 [emoji23] Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy
    2 points
  48. I'll give it to the OP, he's really concerned about growing the game and making sure no one quits. Besides this thread, there's also: and
    2 points
  49. Stage 2 Intro Again, I’d like to thank Cleveland and MGS for the opportunity to test the RTX4 wedges. I did my best to test these wedges and put them through the ringer. I was never able to get on a monitor for hard data, which was a bummer, but had a few migrations to push through at work and I could never coordinate a time session with my fitter in the evenings as the shop closes before I was able to get out of the office. I did still get out for a few late evening range sessions, 9 hole walks, and a few weekend rounds. Looks (9 out of 10 points) This is where the RTX4 shined for me more than any other area. These things look great. I love the overall design and how the shape changes as you increase in loft. The black satin finish is really nice and seems to hold up well. It’s not a flat finish and does have some shine to it, but it doesn’t blind me like a high loft chrome wedge. Outside of a few spots on the face, there are only a few light scuff marks across the bottom of the sole. The 58 mid I tested does show a little more sole wear, but I used it mostly in bunker tests. Compared to my Jet Black SM7s, where the black finish was wearing off after the first range session, Cleveland knocked it out of the park. Another area in the finish I really appreciated is the paint filled loft mark. The contrast between the wedge finish and white paint made it incredibly easy to differentiate which wedge I was grabbing. A minor detail but if you’ve ever inadvertently grabbed the wrong wedge, this is something that you’ll appreciate. The ONLY reason I’m not giving the RTX4 a 10 out of 10 in the looks department is because I am not a fan at all of the ferrule from the factory. The appearance just makes the hosel look incredibly long and I prefer a solid black ferrule without the white lines. That’s a minor complaint, but it’s just not for me. Sound & Feel (10 out of 10 points) Sound and feel have always been very subjective to me. I.e. a lot of people complained about the sound of the Epic Flash, but I like the sound of it. For me, when the shot is hit in the center of the face there is a muted click. Not much of anything, which for me is a good thing. As with the sound, when struck in the middle of the face you don’t feel much with any swing where you’ll compress the ball. If you miss towards the toe, you’ll feel it but it’s still a small clicky feel, but not stinging your hands by any means. On less than 50% shots, or chips around the green, slight click but nothing annoying. When it comes to sound/feel and the affect on my performance, I like my clubs to feel like nothing was there when I hit the middle of the face. When I miss the middle, I like to be able to feel and have an idea of where the ball is headed before I ever find it. These wedges offered that feel for me. Regarding sound affecting my performance, I’ve only had one club in my bag that did that which was the Callaway XR driver. That thing had such a loud, high pitched, PLANK sound when I hit it. I never wanted to hit it on the range because I was scared it would affect other people nearby. So friggin loud. Off the subject of these wedges I know, but sound typically doesn’t affect me near as much as feel. Basic Characteristics (16 out of 20 points) I’ll get to the details in the next section… Accuracy, distance, and trajectory – I struggled a little early because the ball launches much higher with the test setup than what I’m used to seeing. A higher shot equals tougher distance dispersion control. If I lined up properly though, these things never wavered left to right. If the shot was a little chunky, distance lost was not near as bad as it should have been. I attribute this to the mid grind which I feel is an incredibly forgiving grind for half to full shots, not so much around the green for chipping though. A shot hit off center would lose some distance, but again, not as much as it should. This I attribute to the progressive face balancing technology. When Cleveland claims something, it’s not just words, they mean it. Control and workability – This is where I struggled with the RTX4. Could it be the shaft, could it have been the grinds and how I attack the ball, I don’t know. Control was a bit more difficult because of the distance dispersion. I eventually got a feel for it, but it took a while because, as I said, the ball just launches higher than what I’m used to. On-Course Performance (25 out of 30 points) With each range session, I made it a point to hit these wedges vs my Vokeys to try and get the best comparison. We have a pretty nice range and short game practice area at my home course. On the range, I always try to work on the 40-120 shots for most of my session and hit a few with my 7i, 5i, and driver to close. What I found on the range is that, while I was able to develop a decent feel for distance control, I was never able to flight the RTX4 wedge the way I like to. I look to approach greens based on where the flag is located. If it’s in the back, I like to hit a lower trajectory shot that will hop once and bite. If the pin is on the front to middle, I like to hit the ball higher and allow the descent to stop the ball more than the spin. With the RTX4, I could never get that knockdown to work, everything just seemed to launch high. I could adjust the ball position in my stance slightly, but I could never get the shot I wanted to see. Same shaft, same grip, 1 degree difference in the gap wedges, but I couldn’t make it work. As far as hitting a standard shot and not trying to manipulate the face much, these things were excellent. They produce a consistent shot with consistent height with very little work, just line up and hit the shot. Where my only real complaint with the RTX4 would be, is on greenside chips. This may just be a me thing, but for me, the RTX4 spun much more than I’m used to. I had several chips that I would make anticipating rollout to the flag, yet literally stopping in place after the first hop, while others wouldn’t check as hard and the ball would roll well past the hole. Chipping around the green has always been a stronger part of my game and something I’ve always been confident in, but I could never find it with the RTX4 In the bunkers, the 58.9 mid held it’s on compared to my 58.12, in shallow or wet/damp packed bunkers. I prefer playing out of tight bunkers. I’m not the greatest soft/deep bunker player, but I’m able to get out and on the green much easier with my 58.12K than I am the 58.9 mid. The RTX4 would sometimes dig too deep and the ball would come up well short. I would mostly attribute this to sole width, plus a few degrees more bounce. Overall, these wedges performed where needed. The miscues, especially with bunker play, are more on me and my short comings in bunker play. I didn’t notice any difference in scores when gaming these the past month and half over my Vokey’s. As a matter of fact, my index has remained the same at 4.4. I’ve never gamed a Cleveland branded product, but I’ve been in love with Srixon irons since the Z745 series released. The quality of these wedges are on point as I expected them to be. The features of the RTX4 that Cleveland markets; progressive shaping, progressive feel balancing, Tour Zip Grooves all seem to hit on what they claim and I don’t think there’s anything there I would change. I mentioned in earlier in this review, but even shots hit off center weren’t too punishing yet did provide enough feedback so I knew exactly where I struck the ball. I would love to see the progressive face balancing technology continue on with these wedges. I’d also love to see Cleveland continue to evolve in their grind options as I believe this is where Vokey keeps their stranglehold on the market. Miscellaneous (10 out of 10 points) I didn’t really speak on it previously, but my interactions with the umbrella of Cleveland Golf have always been phenomenal. Orders have always been processed quickly and packages have always been secured and protected. These wedges were no different. The wedges arrived in a triangular box and offered plenty of protection from FedEx handlers tossing them around during the shipping process. MGS staff placed the order on 7/22 and the wedges went cross country from CA to my door in SC in 6 business days. Play it or Trade it? (20 out of 20 points) Would I purchase these new if I were looking for some new wedges? If I could find a shaft combo that worked, yes. The RTX4 is a quality product with a good bit of innovation behind it that works. The value you get in the RTX4 is definitely worth what you pay. The finish is excellent, and the factory shaft option is the DG Tour Issue S400. There are several aftermarket shafts available at zero, to little, upcharge. Do I prefer them over my current wedges? This is a tossup and the question I had the hardest time answering. The quality and craftsmanship of these wedges are tip top and on par with any other wedge maker. Just because the sticker on the shelf for the RTX4 is less, you’re not getting a lesser product. However, something with the setup I tested is just not for me, the ball seems to launch at a higher angle than I’m used to seeing and for me that did make the distance dispersion a little more difficult to tame, although I finally got it workable. I mentioned the inability to hit a consistent knockdown which is a shot I love to have in the bag, but it’s also not a shot I hit every round. Maybe something along the lines of a KBS 610 shaft would help get the flight I prefer to see. As far as just squaring up and making a stock swing golf shot, the RTX4 delivered. But to answer the question, for me, I still prefer my Vokeys. If any of my playing partners, or anyone reading this review were in the market for new wedges, I’d give a thumbs up to try the RTX4. However, as with any golf purchase, it would be best to be properly fit so you get the right loft and grind for your game. I know Cleveland has the CBX2 in their lineup now and they’re marketed towards golfers needing more forgiveness, but I’m really not sure how they can be that much more forgiving than the RTX4. When you slack on your swing, they’ll be there to pick you up. Again, if any golfer was properly fit in to these wedges, I think they could excel with them. Conclusion TL:DR – Cleveland delivers on (most) their promises with the RTX4. The wedges are an amazing deal and although priced cheaper, are far from a cheaper product. For a blade style wedge, they are incredibly forgiving and do exactly what a wedge is designed to do, make a ball stop on the green leaving you with birdie putts. If you want a wedge that just works, go with the RTX4. Final Score: 90
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