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  1. MyGolfSpy Forum Guide: How To Be A Tester As promised I wanted to do an update for our Want To Be A Tester Thread. We take pride in our transparency and member testing platform. 2023 was an incredible season and it continues to provide amazing opportunities to all of our members. For those new to the Forum let me break down the keys to becoming a Forum Tester and how to increase your chances at being selected. (I will break down the why afterwards) It should also be noted that we as staff view member testing opportunities as a way to give back to the members who have contributed so much to our community. It should also be noted that these reviews are a lot of work and take a lot of time to commit to. All Forum Members selected for testing must have a profile photo. This is our most basic rule, but the bottom line is no profile photo = no selection. Recent Activity - We want to see and have members who are actively engaged in the community. This does not necessarily mean posting everyday 10 plus times a day. But a steady history or pattern of activity is a must. Posting an unofficial review. This is not a must, but helps give us an idea for your writing style and overall ability and completing a thorough review for us. These are 3 simple, yet very effective ways to being noticed by the Forum Staff and having your name stand out as we go through the tester selection process. Now as to why we look for those previous 3 areas of criteria. Photos and media content are essential for testing. While some people are good writers, a bunch of text can be a tough slog to read through. We want to see creative photos and media that highlight the product. If someone cannot even bother to post a profile photo it gives us little confidence they could do any photos in a review. Photos and media are becoming ever more important for our reviews, especially with our Forum Recap Articles gaining further recognition and popularity with OEMs and MyGolfSpy readers. Good, high quality photos which highlight and feature the product are essential. Recent Activity is also extremely important. This shows us reliability to post consistently and take part in conversation throughout the testing period, as well as after the testing period. Being able to see that history gives us added confidence in our selection. Now when I say history I do not mean years of posting. It will be shown a little later in this post, but we actively try to get new people involved. Posting an unofficial review is pretty self explanatory, but for us when we are giving out thousands of dollars worth of equipment we want to have a level of confidence in who we are selecting. So is that all we look at when selecting testers? No, definitely not. The other things we look at and take note of are as follows. Post to Reaction Ratio: This is a simple metric, but gives us a slight idea of the value contributions to the community. However posting in the Good Morning Thread is a bit of a cheat code for that. Donor Status: For those that have, but don’t have the tag please let one of the staff members know and we can add that for you. While not a deal breaker one way or another, it can be used as a tie breaker. OEM requests: This one you can’t really know about ahead of time. However as these companies are providing equipment for free they are within their rights to ask for certain handicaps, situations, swing speeds, geographic regions and more. These questions are asked in the signup form. For those with lower post counts we can see login dates to see that someone is visiting the site. Maybe you are someone who loves reading the forum, but are hesitant to post that much or feel as though you do not have a lot to contribute. I ensure that you do have a lot to contribute no matter who you are, but at least this allows us to see that someone is taking an active interest in the forum. For those that have tested before. Previous review grades and comments are taken into account. More on that below. How long do I have to be a Forum Member before I am considered for Testing? A week? A month? Longer? I was a member for 2 years before I was selected for my first testing opportunity. However it took me a year to really get involved. There is no magic number for how long it takes to be a tester. Simply put we want to select members who are active contributors within our community. That doesn’t have to mean a long history of posts. We also actively try our best to give at least one new tester in on every testing opportunity that happens. In 2023 this happened in nearly every test. What else can help me become a tester? These are small things and are not requirements, but help with us getting to know you a little more or at the very least recognize your forum name. Follow us on our social platforms - The Forum has accounts on Instagram and Twitter… or X. Join our Community Call: Every Thursday we host a Community Call for our members to have general chit chat and sometimes Live Q&A with different golf companies or people. These are a great way for a member to get to know the staff, ask questions and for us to get to know you a little better. Importantly you don’t have to have your camera or mic on, but can simply sit back and listen or type questions in the chat. It is a great way to quickly get involved and see what our community is all about. What are the other rules or guidelines to Member Testing? Members generally only get one opportunity to test each season. Meaning if you are selected for a set of irons it is unlikely you will be selected for another test during the season. There are some exceptions, however we have a lot of great members and want to spread the opportunities around as best we can. Smaller tests such as golf balls, gloves, grips and that sort of thing do leave you eligible for other tests later in the season, however members will only be allowed to be involved in one review at a time. Basically no testing two items at once. For our testing opportunities like Cobra Challenge and full bag opportunities a member can only take part in these once. Period. These are amazing opportunities and of course a lot of fun and work, but we have too many incredible members to give these to any member multiple times. I mention these previous points to highlight a greater point. Please only register or sign up for the testing opportunities you are really excited about and if you are currently testing please do not sign up for other testing opportunities. To be frank it looks greedy and like you are only here for free stuff. Are there certain things that would make me ineligible for a testing opportunity? Outside of not having a profile photo, it should go without saying but all testers must be members of the forum. To that end you must also be a member in good standing. This means no current warnings on your account. Another factor that comes into play are poor previous review scores. I will put this bluntly, if a tester have gone mia on a testing opportunity in the past or been a difficult tester missing deadlines, not providing a review or come close to meeting the deadlines. We have very little reason to consider that person for any future review opportunities. We have too many deserving members to go back to that well or take that risk. Geo Restrictions are the other factor. It should be highlighted and noted that we encourage all testing opportunities to be eligible for all our members, however some OEMs have certain restrictions and in the end it is their call. I am a lefty and live outside the US so I am in your corner, but we are also not going to deny an opportunity if is just US only. Another factor in this is over 90% of the community is US and Canada based. Getting a larger portion of outside NA members will help increase are chances of getting more worldwide testing. I have been selected as a tester, now what? Your lead Forum Staff Member will guide you throughout the process. If there is a fitting involved or any other requirements they will facilitate those and ensure that everything is run smoothly. Most importantly, carefully read all the instructions and documents provided. There is a lot to go over and missing key points can cause you to get behind or miss important deadlines. The biggest thing is ask questions if you have them! The forum staff are here to help and work with all the testers throughout the process. What Happens After Testing? Even after an official test is completed it is highly encouraged that testers continue to take part in discussion. There may still be questions and may still activity on the thread which you should engage in. We love seeing ongoing and longer term updates as it helps anyone considering buying the product have a longer term view of how the product performs. Your Lead Forum Staff Member will then grade your review and participation and you will be given a survey to fill out. After these have been completed you will get your official tester badge! Technically speaking you are now eligible to enter in for more testing opportunities, however as we said above for the most part a member will only get to take part in 1 tester per season. Again I repeat it is why anyone should only sign up for the products they are truly interested in. _____________________________________________________ FAQ I never get picked! Why don't I ever get picked? I hear you, but have you done most of the above? Have you provided worthwhile contributions to the forum? Do you have a profile photo? The answers are all above and we lay out the process pretty clear. The rest is up to you. That being said posting in the TESTERS WANTED pages does not count towards your post count. Also the pick me pick me type posts don't really fly with us. Post them as you like or if you like, but again we want to see members adding value to the forum. Those posts are not. What happens if I get sick or injured during testing? Look this is a lot of work, but at the end of the day we understand things in life happen. TELL THE FORUM STAFF! We can make adjustments and arrange dates to work with everyone's schedule. However you have to tell us first! I don't have social media accounts, does that mean I can't be a tester? This is not a requirement for us. It is nice when the forum gets mentioned and a member is able to bring attention to the forum via social channels, but not a requirement. Good photos however are and with phones today there is little reason why anyone wouldn't be able to take a decent photo. Why don't we know what tests are coming so we can wait to sign up for the ones we really want and not risk getting picked for one we don't really love? We build our schedule out starting about now, however it takes time and things move around so there are no guarantees on when a test will be posted or moved. Posting our schedule to everyone also wouldn't be fair to the smaller tests or some of the lesser known brands which come to testing. We want excitement for every test and mystery in whats to come. If you aren't excited about the product up for testing, don't sign up. I was picked and the product just didn't work for me. What now? First I hope that the person enjoyed the review and was able to provide a good thorough and honest review. If it doesn't work, so be it! That being said we do not allow for any reason a member to sell their testing equipment for at least 2 product cycles. If it doesn't work for you, then pass it along to another member and let them try it. This happened several times this season with various products and members were able to get more testing opportunities. Pay it forward! But seriously, I have been here for X amount of years and still never get picked. Yeah I bring this up again because you would not believe the emails we get. We picked a lot of testers this year, if a longer term member hasn't been picked the basics of is the timing wasn't right or the activity level just wasn't there. There are some tests we feel some testers would be great for and others not as great, we have thousands of applications and have to pick 4-6, it isn't easy and not a ton of fun. If your name hasn't been called there are some gaps in the above material. _______________________________________________ I hope all of you have found this beneficial and productive to go through. The forum staff spend a lot of time going through all the applicants and reviews and so much more. It is not an easy task and we take pride in the selections we make. The testers that don't live up to expectations well that is tough for us and not a great look on us, the forum and this community. Therefore we take a good amount of time and effort to hand pick each tester. There were some testers this year that under performed to a level that they will not be partaking in testing moving forward. On a good note there were a ton of excellent testers and reviews which we are all very proud of. If you have questions please just ask! If you have concerns or want to know more then please reach out to one of the forum staff members. The other thread is going to be locked and this will be the main thread moving forward. There will also be subsequent larger drops of information here for all to view as we aim to be as transparent as possible with testing and make sure that anyone who really wants to be a tester will have that chance and ability to be. Thank you all for reading!
    77 points
  2. Testers Announced! The TaylorMade Qi10 drivers were one of our most requested products for member testing. It is no surprise to see why, either, with several PGA Tour pros putting them into their bags immediately from launch, and even Colin Morikawa finally replacing his original TaylorMade SIM in favor of the new TaylorMade Qi10 Max. Yes, that’s correct—a tour player using the Max head. About The TaylorMade Qi10 Series The series of drivers consists of three models: the Qi10 Max, Qi10 LS (low spin), and Qi10 Standard. Each has slightly different weight placements, but only the LS model includes a moveable weight. The big story for these drivers is forgiveness. TaylorMade has created its first driver with 10k MOI points. To read all the finer details of why this matters, you can see our full overview here: TaylorMade Qi10 Drivers First Look The shorter version is TaylorMade has leveraged a multi-material design, relocated mass, and improved shapes to achieve maximum forgiveness within each model while claiming to still retain all the speed (and therefore distance) characteristics. Other big changes to the driver include the face and crown. Where previous versions for years had a clear distinction between where the titanium support met the carbon crown, the Qi10 features a clean glossy black crown with a new blue carbon face. The blue replaces the red of the Stealth models and is their third generation of carbon driver face. Please welcome and congratulate our 6 testers! TaylorMade Qi10 LS @Jmikecpa @GolfSpy_BEN TaylorMade Qi10 Standard @IndyBonzo @EMacK1961 TaylorMade Qi10 Max @Hook DeLoft @Michael.Sandoval33
    67 points
  3. Testers Announced! Titleist T Series Irons For full details check out this link -https://mygolfspy.com/news-opinion/titleist-t-series-irons/ This is the third generation of T-Series Irons from Titleist since they moved on from the AP lineup. This generation of T-Seriers introduces two “new” irons to the lineup in the T150 (replacement for the T100S) and the T350. Here is a breakdown highlight of the series. Titleist T100 - The most played iron on the PGA Tour there wasn’t much to change from the previous version. However Titleist worked to improve the feel, create tighter dispersion and updated the variable bounce sole. Titleist T150 - One of the “new” models the T150 retains the looks and progression that the T100 made but with a slightly thicker topline and slightly wider sole to create a more forgiving package while retaining improved ball speeds by an updated Muscle Channel. Titleist T200 - A non-clicky backplate! However in all seriousness the T200 for 2023 is where some big improvements were made. With some updates to the topline and finish the T200 retains the same size as the previous version with what will likely be a more appealing look. Titleist have moved the speed boosting Max Impact Core closer to the heel and face of the golf club to improve sound and forgiveness. Titleist T350 - The replacement for the T300, the T350 comes in a package that matches the rest of the T-Series much better. It is a larger, more forgiving iron than the T200 and for Titleist is their Ultimate Game Improvement Iron. However most all of you know all that and are eager to hear if you were selected for testing! Please welcome and congratulate our testers! T100 - @bens197 T150 - @Ben Joest T200 - @GregB135 T350 - @ole gray **While Testers were selected for those as their main sets, Titleist is working with all of them to ensure they are fit properly. Meaning split sets are an option for each tester.**
    65 points
  4. TESTERS ANNOUNCED! The personal launch monitor space has grown immensely over the years and Rapsodo is introducing their new MLM2Pro. The original MLM from Rapsodo consistently came top of MyGolfSpys most wanted testing in a variety of categories since its original launch. The Rapsodo MLM2Pro looks to build off that foundation while bringing new features and abilities to help golfers improve their games and practice while not breaking the bank. Here are some of the highlighted features straight from Rapsodo. “The all new MLM2PRO™ Mobile Launch Monitor + Golf Simulator Dual optical camera vision + radar processing for precision accuracy Shot Vision and Impact Vision for multi-option swing replay Simulation at 30,000+ golf courses 13 metrics - 6 measured metrics - including spin rate and spin axis Apple and Android compatible Rapsodo Combines - 24 total shots - 2 approach targets - 1 driver target Full functionality indoors and outdoors” Where the original Rapsodo MLM was great for practice and training, the addition of being a golf simulator and being able to read spin rates is very intriguing. Not to mention it is now Android compatible! Please welcome and congratulate our testers for the Rapsodo MLM2Pro! @xOldBenKenobiX @CSiders12 @GolfSpy_APH @GolfSpy BOS
    64 points
  5. Introduction Hello All, most of you have seen me here and there around the forum, but for the new and uninitiated, my name is Ben. I am a 45-year-old father of 3, who has been happily married for 14 years. I am on the forum staff, as a moderator. My primary duties lend themselves to the VCT, as Commissioner, but I help out in other areas as needed. If you are not aware of the VCT and haven't checked it out, come join us! It is a friendly, low key way to compete against your fellow members in a virtual setting. And now, a bit on the current state of my game. Through a considerable amount of practice, hard work and a little rub of the green, I have worked my index down from a 9 to 1.4 over the past 18 months. I am a good ball striker, a great wedge player and a competent putter. However, off the tee, I am decidedly average and a little inconsistent. Baseline Numbers A recent trip to the range allowed me to grab some baseline numbers from current gamer, a Callaway Paradym TD with a Graphite Design Tour AD - XC 7x shaft. Through trial and error, i have found the combination of a low spin head with an x-stiff low spin/low-mid launch shaft helps me keep my spin numbers manageable and helps to mitigate a slightly negative Angle of Attack. This time of year, my swing speed averages around 106 mph, during the warmer weather I am around 110 mph. Questions to Ponder 1. Can the QI-10 help improve the following metrics?: Ball Speed Carry Distance Total Distance North/South Dispersion East/West Dispersion 2. Will the Twist Face Technology help mitigate my misses, weather they be low bullet pulls or high spinny slices? (See above re: consistency. A reliable miss would be a welcome addition as well) 3. Will the QI-10 help me improve my "off the tee" Strokes Gained number during actual rounds? This is going to be fun! Lastly, as always, if there is something that you, the constant reader, would like to see or be tested, please feel free to ask. I will accommodate your requests, as I am able. Link to my fitting post: https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/62804-testers-announced-taylormade-qi10-drivers/?do=findComment&comment=1017665 Link to my unboxing: https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/62804-taylormade-qi10-drivers-2024-forum-member-review/?do=findComment&comment=1022464 Taylor Made QI-10 LS – Official MGS Forum Review by GolfSpy_BEN First Impressions (20 out of 20) At first blush, this driver exudes class and a simple elegance that I find very appealing. Taylor Made knocked the design out of the park with this one. Gone is the garish red face, replaced by a dark blue that, at a glance could be mistaken for almost black. One of the things I never liked about the Stealth lines was, at address, I noticed that face and I found that distracting during the task at hand. Also, gone is the strip of differing material just above the face, and in it's place a glossy one piece crown that absolutely sparkles to the eye. Aesthetics (10 out of 10) The QI-10 has a timeless look about it and hearkens back to design elements of drivers of yore. It reminds me a little of what Titleist tries to convey with their offerings from a design perspective and I, for one, am here for it. The perfect driver, to me, is one I barely notice when I am swinging. The shape of QI-10 LS is akin to a classic shaped driver and puts off a vibe, best described as, fast. Looking at the club, at address, the mind races with possibility. This clubs subtly suggests, "The ball will go far, just give it a swing, find out." I get the sensation that there is a beast lurking beneath the tranquil facade, a feeling similar to a Ferrari or a Porsche. Standing still, they just look fast. The Numbers (10 out of 10) A refresher of where the Paradym TD stood in a practice session prior to the commencement of this test And here is a month’s worth of accumulated sessions with the QI-10 LS: The thing that stands out to me, is the numbers are depressingly similar. A glass half full type will point out that it is a sign of consistency that there isn’t a great increase or sharp drop-off between the 2 clubs. That’s great and all, but my mediocre average driving numbers are what prompted me to volunteer for this test to begin with. That everything stayed more or less the same, means I can’t/won’t penalize the QI-10, but I admit I had hoped for something more. One aspect to all of this, is the Kai Li shaft proved to be a dud for me, which prompted me to come out of pocket on an upgrade shaft. There is some hope moving forward that as I acclimate towards the new shaft/head combo, that the averages will naturally rise up to the level I am seeking. Plus, as we move into the summer months and prime golf season, the warmer temps will aid and abet a faster swing and more favorable playing conditions. On-Course (17 out of 20) Because of the abbreviated testing window, the QI-10 LS was basically given one round to make the bag. An argument can be made for either side, whether this is fair or unfair to the product. On the one hand, I can acknowledge that to truly make this decision a number of rounds need to be played and a large body of evidence must be weighed and measured to make a truly informed decision. Yet on the other hand, if the product doesn’t crack and require 3 weeks to be replaced, then those rounds and the larger sample size happen and this is all an academic argument. Such is life. For the QI-10 LS’s audition, I booked and played a round at my home course; Majestic Springs. We had a 9:34 am tee time on a Sunday morning that was forecast to be partly sunny and more importantly, dry. Upon arriving at the course, we were informed of a 45 minute frost delay that had pushed back the tee times, so we were now going off the back at 10:15 am. The back nine is on a higher elevation and is more open to the sun and wind, so this is SOP, any time there is a frost delay. It was approx. 45 degrees when we started with an a cold, intermittent wind. Through the round, the wind died down and it warmed up to 65 degrees. Here is an unvarnished recap of the driving holes: Hole 10 For my first tee shot, it went straight but was woefully short. I caught it high center of the face and the ball went nowhere. Not the start I was looking for, and it led to a bogey. Hole 11 More of the same for the par 5 11th, except this one went 20 yards shorter. The irony of me hitting my second shot 80 yards further is particularly delicious, given if I wasn’t testing a driver this is the point in the round where I would pull the ripcord on using the driver and hit 3 woods off the tee for the rest of the day. Given that wasn’t an option, I recovered nicely on this hole for a par Hole 12 Another 181 yard bomb, but this one sliced weakly off to the right, and if it was mid summer would have been lost to the heather. Fortunately, the heather is clear cut at the end of the season, so the ball was easily found and played forward toward another bogey. Hole 13 Better contact on this one, as it went 213, but still a slice. Aggravation was starting to creep in with another bogey and I was now +3 through 4 holes. Why do I play this silly game again? Hole 14 Blessedly a par 3, which I chipped in from the fringe for par after a short tee shot and duffed first chip. Hole 15 The number 2 handicap hole on this course, and one i usually fair well on. Drive was 209, but in the fairway. On this swing, I saw a glimmer of hope as it felt like I caught it well but the wind knocked in down a bit. Add another par and keep it moving. Hole 16 This short par 4 is one that fits my eye well and I usually love driving the ball from the elevated tee box. I’ve had some really great drives on this hole, but this wasn’t one of them. 184 yard slice that had me contemplating walking off the course, however a par is a par. Hole 17 To this point, the par 3’s were arriving when I needed them most. A workmanlike par took us to 18. Hole 18 A 226 yard drive that wasn’t pretty but it was effective and I parred this hole to finish the first nine in 3 over 39. Bring on the front nine. Hole 1 This tee shot encompasses what I hoped this driver could be for me. 260 yards, down the middle, leaving me a short pitch in. It is more than coincidental that as we started the front nine, the temperature had risen into the 60’s and there was a subtle whisp of warm breeze, making for agreeable playing conditions. Another par. Hole 2 It is important to note that this is my nemesis hole. My usual play is a 6 iron off the tee, followed by a 7 iron into a narrow green. I don’t typically take Driver on this hole because with the 240 yards forced carry any mishit drives end up in the creek that divides the fairway. But given that this is a testing round, I pulled driver and produced a high draw that carried 245 yards, hopped once and stopped. It was a new experience leaving myself a gap wedge in. Of course, I bogeyed the hole, as I was still in shock at the drive. Hole 3 Unlike the first nine, this par 3 had awful timing, as it broke the driving groove I spent the previous 2 holes cultivating. A par, so I can’t be too disappointed. Hole 4 This elevated tee box and fairly wide fairway invites players to come out of their shoes. I tried to, and damn near missed the ball, resulting in a 192 slice into the clear cut heather that made me mad. Golf is a fickle mistress, at best. Hole 5 Par 3’s were now back in my good graces, following that awful drive and the resulting par was satisfying. Hole 6 Not a great drive, but also not a bad drive. Given that it stopped 1 ft before the pond on this hole, it may have been my luckiest drive of the day, and the par train kept a rolling. Hole 7 The last of the par 3’s and with it, my last bogey as well. Flubbed a nine iron because I was trying to get cute with a tucked right pin that was located on the upper tier of the green. Lesson learned, we live to fight another day. Hole 8 220 yards of I don’t know what the hell happened on this par 5, coupled with an downhill/sidehill lie for my second and thank the golf gods, that they allowed me to walk away from this hole with a par. Hole 9 207 yard high spinny right ball was a fitting end to this topsy-turvy driving round. A lovely 7 iron to the center of the green allowed for a 2 putt par and a +5, 76. It is a testament to the other parts of my game that this lackluster display of golf ball driving didn’t completely send this round off the rails. A final postmortem of this round reveals a couple of profound truths. I need to commit more time in practice to my driver swing and there isn’t likely a place in my bag, for this level of inconsistency and frustration. The Good, the bad, the InBetween (10 out of 20) The Good: When my swing was grooving, this driver produced great drives and left me hungry for more. The head cover is of a premium quality and really well done. The Bad: The advertised stock shaft for the LS was on back-order and required a last second switch, in order to keep to the testing schedule. I have deducted 3 points for this. The head cracked on a normal swing, in what can only be surmised as a freak occurrence and yet the whole ordeal lost me 3 weeks of valuable testing time, so for that I am deducting another 7 points. The InBetween: The further we get into this season, I will be keenly watching for other cases of the club malfunctioning, because I am genuinely curious if what happened to me was a one-off or a part of a larger pattern of quality concerns for Taylor Made. Going back to the original SIM, there have been cases of faulty heads, so it bears monitoring. Play it or Trade it? (19 out of 20) For this test, I am treating this question as literal. The simple answer is trade it and so I did. @IndyBonzoand I have traded heads, so that he can see if he likes the LS and I will do the same with the core head. It is entirely possible with enough time and persistence, I could grow to love the QI-10 LS but I frankly don’t have the patience to find out. And because hope springs eternal, bring on the core head and let’s see what this baby can do. I deducted a point for the cost of shipping the head to my fellow tester. After receiving the core head, I took it up to the golf ranch. Persistent rain kept me off the turf range, so I don't have any Rapsodo data to share just yet, but I liked what I was seeing from a shape perspective. More straight balls and fades, less high spinny slice balls. So there is still hope that a QI-10 driver makes the bag this season, just not the one I thought it would be. Lastly, it is my earnest hope that the LS is everything @IndyBonzohopes it will be and more. May he find the happiness that resides within it. Conclusion The QI-10 LS is a good driver. My personal feeling is that this line of drivers is an upgrade over the two generations of Stealth. Early on in the testing period, there were moments of brilliance and promise before a series of unfortunate events tainted my testing experience, but based on the evidence put forth by the testers and shadow testers alike, this is a line of drivers that works really well for a cross section of skill ranges. As evidenced by @Michael.Sandoval33breaking 100 numerous times with the Max and @chisag declaring his standard model, the holy grail. High praise indeed. Final Score (86 out of 100)
    59 points
  6. Hey all! I am pretty excited to announce that we will start to see review recaps of the member testing on the main site! The Forum Staff are all working on doing writeups for the main site using quotes and photos which you as testers have provided in your reviews. The first one is scheduled to release tomorrow... so stay tuned to mygolfspy.com to see and read it. We are also linking in everyones reviews to hopefully get all of you some more attention in your reviews. This will take some time to get all of them done and we will do our best to write recaps for all, but cant guarantee all will be published, however I think this is great for us to see happen and the addition of having your words written on the main site should be a cool added perk to member testing!
    58 points
  7. Introduction Who is this guy? Greetings MyGolfSpy readers! Welcome to my review of the TaylorMade Qi10 standard driver. (FABWIFE and the author) My name is John, and for almost as much as I can remember of my 53 years, I have enjoyed two hobbies: playing drums and playing golf. For Father’s Day a couple years ago, my amazing FABWIFE and three daughters gave me an octopus driver headcover as an homage to both of my hobbies. (The Octopus is sort of emblematic of drummers, with the many limbs doing different things.) I crazy love that headcover. In my mind, a driver has to *earn* the right to wear it. So, what’s really happening in this review, is . . . That’s interesting I suppose, but how’s his game? Driving the golf ball has always been the most variable part of my game, with phases of joyful glory, and periods of abject failure and humiliation. Last summer was a particularly good driver season. This winter (especially during a dreadful January) practice time has been hard to come by, and driver has suffered most. This baseline (below, from December 2023) is not where I want it to be. Can the TaylorMade Qi10 help? My current gamer is a Callaway Paradym ◊◊◊ with an Accra FX 3.0 140 M0 shaft. (It’s an Otto-Phlex shaft. IYKYK. There's a great, long thread here in the forums on it.) Right now the handicap sits at 8.2. So, how will he judge the Qi10? Would you believe I have never owned a TaylorMade club of any kind? It’s true, and when the realization hit me, I was surprised myself given TaylorMade’s reputation and longevity. So no preconceptions here. For the TaylorMade Qi10 to Earn the Octopus, as compared to my current gamer, it will need to show: Improved accuracy and dispersion Greater distance (carry and total) Workability Consistency Using launch monitor data (indoors and out), I plan to: Provide results with different loft and lie settings from the TaylorMade 4-degree loft sleeve Perform head-to-head comparisons against my current driver Bonus: Compare data against the 2023 Stealth 2 (standard) on loan for the test On the course, I will test for accuracy/fairways hit, distance, forgiveness on mishits, and most importantly scoring effect. Results will matter most, but feedback on sound, feel, and aesthetics are forthcoming too. Dear readers: please also share any other testing ideas or questions you have! Seriously though… I want to express my gratitude to both TaylorMade and MGS for the opportunity to test and review the TaylorMade Qi10 driver. Thank you! Now let’s get after it . . . the octopus is eager to find out if it’s moving to a new home. First Impressions (18 out of 20) It was not just the excitement of a driver delivery and review opportunity that revved me up to get the Qi10 in my hands. TaylorMade makes some lofty claims about the Qi10 standard driver, namely, that the Qi10 provides a "balanced blend of distance and forgiveness." More distance and more forgiveness. That's every driver, every year, right? But TaylorMade's substantial mathematical and design-based support for those claims increased my eagerness to do this review. (It's here . . .) Who wouldn't want all this? TaylorMade avers that the Qi10 offers: Extra forgiveness - meaning more consistency on off-center strikes - resulting from an 8500 MOI and lower mid-head center of gravity. The Qi10's MOI significantly exceeds that of the 2023 Stealth 2, and is equivalent to TaylorMade's purportedly most forgiving model from 2023, the Stealth 2 HD. Better distance resulting from "improved energy transfer" yielded by the redesigned 60X Carbon Twist Face, lighter titanium than "traditional" titanium drivers, and carbon fiber covering 97% of the crown (for weight dispersion to the exterior and more clubhead speed). A cool, new blue color. (Spoiler alert: it is cool!) I go into more excruciating detail about TaylorMade's Qi10 driver claims, sortof explain MOI (moment of inertia) and what forgiveness really means with a golf club, show the driver from all angles, and hit on sundry other related topics in this unboxing video if you would like to learn a bit more. (Unboxing video with cameos) My daughters and FABWIFE rightly tease me about being unjustly confident in asserting opinions as fact sometimes. Undeterred, I offer you, dear reader, this unoriginal but honest opinion: the sub-premium packaging for this premium driver cannot suffice. (Opinions are like . . ..) The good folks at FedEx treated my Qi10 with kid gloves. Good thing, since it arrived in a thin-ish brown box, bubble wrap encasing the shrink-wrapped head, and loose plastic bags over everything else. TaylorMade must know more about effective packaging than I. Regardless: - 2 points. Last on the technical front, I remain impressed by the TaylorMade 4 Degree Loft Sleeve. My Qi10 can play at lofts from 7 degrees to 11 degrees, with the clubface open or closed 4 degrees from standard, and with up to a 4 degree increase (upright) in lie angle.. Certain combinations of these settings purportedly increase or decrease spin by 400 rpm. After one quick range session with the Qi10, I can confirm the ability to modify spin with the sleeve. (The TaylorMade 4 Degree Loft Sleeve) Kudos to TaylorMade for offering a numerous and varied selection of stock shafts for the Qi10 driver from prominent makers like Fujikura, KBS, Aldila, Mitsubishi (MCA), Project X, and UST, along with several other custom options. My fitting resulted in the choice of one of my favorites, the low launch, low spin Mitsubishi Kai'li White 60S. (Sexy) Aesthetics (10 out of 10) Everything else about the Qi10 impressed straight away. The 460cc clubhead carries a traditional-looking oyster shape. The subtle blue face does not distract. (TaylorMade Qi10's 60X Carbon Twist Face) TaylorMade's engineering prowess shows up more upon inspection of the carbon face and its pronounced grooves, and especially on the underside where some science fiction - based design work reveals itself. (30g rear weight for a lower center of gravity) (Lucasfilm/Disney) The deep black crown and alignment aid seem likewise subtle, and look darn good behind the ball. Again, no distractions. Last and perhaps least, the headcover. Usually I don't care. They get replaced quickly. The Octopus forbids interlopers anyway. That said, the Qi10 headcover objectively screams "luxe," with the white, quilted side ("Qi10" in the quilting) looking like an elite running shoe (says FABWIFE) or a designer handbag (says me; go figure). The Qi10 lettering has just a dash of gold for extra panache. It's sweet. (The Q is for "Quest for Inertia," not for "quilted") The first hitting session with the Qi10 left me wanting more due solely to driving range issues, although performance hints abounded, particularly with respect to the effectiveness of adjustability and increased forgiveness. Much more to come, of course. A little less conversation, a little more action please . . .. IndyBonzo's Qi10 Standard Driver Specs: 9* loft Mitsubishi Kai'Li White 60S shaft GolfPride Z-Grip, 4 extra wraps Length: 44.75" (1" shorter than standard) (So pretty) The Numbers (8 out of 10) The TaylorMade Qi10 is an excellent driver, packed with distance potential, and significant technological improvements that will make it perfect for a variety of golfers. Let's look at the data. First, the admission (again) - your author is accustomed to, and has been fit into, a low-spin driver. Any issues I had with the Qi10 related solely to my own swing and that spin tendency. That said, the distance potential in the Qi10 is pretty incredible. I played over ten rounds with it, hit countless balls on the range and in the sim, and I can tell you without hesitation that when struck well and with manageable spin, the ball just flies off the head. (Needs lessons) The Qi10 also excels in forgiveness. A heel, toe, low or high face strike (without excessive spin) does not fly far off-line, if at all. I could find my target locations easily and regularly without difficulty. Look at this dispersion pattern from a March range session: (Tight like a Tiger) When my spin crept in, that is when I struggled to keep the distance up. Again, that's about me and my swing, and not an indictment of the Qi10. The data proves that TaylorMade improved its flagship driver significantly since 2023. As promised, I compared the Qi10 standard driver with the Stealth 2 standard, and the results showed added accuracy and forgiveness, with no meaningful loss of distance at all. Check this out: In comparison to my gamer, however, both distance and forgiveness fell just short when tested over several shots. To wit: For that reason alone, I must deduct two points. Redemption may be in the cards for the Qi10, however, as you will see below when I discuss the future. Hint: Spin can be addressed. On the Course (19 out of 20) In golf you have to pick your spots. By that I mean sometimes you are playing target golf and need to drop a drive into a small area with precision, or sometimes you have a large landing area and you just want to uncork one. The Qi10 can do both. As you can see from my dispersion example above, the Qi10 will go where you point it. The impressive 8500 MOI and resulting forgiveness also means it delivers accurately whether the strike is perfect or not. Purely in terms of precision, I do not think I have ever played a more accurate driver. I played well over ten rounds with the Qi10 and never doubted I could put the ball on the line I chose. Again, my personal spin tendencies affected distance on the course, but I don't think it's fair to knock the Qi10 for that again. A golfer with a normal or better driver spin tendency will have no issue at all with consistent distance. This driver can pop off. (Boom goes the dynamite) Feedback is also excellent. I knew when I struck a golf ball if it was going to go long, short, or somewhat off-line, purely by feel. It's a great feeling club on the course. My only quibble on-course is with workability. Because the Qi10 is so forgiving, your author sometimes found it difficult to hit an intentional draw or fade. Is this a big deal? No. Forgiveness is the name of the game with the Qi10, so a mere one point deducted. The Good, Bad, and In-Between (18 out of 20) TaylorMade has really impressed your author with the Qi10. Yes, it can be long and accurate and it's undeniably forgiving. It's gorgeous too, and that blue face just screams class. But beyond all that: It holds up. After beating countless range and sim balls and playing on-course repeatedly, the driver face looks near new, with only slight ball marks on the face. (Darn range balls.) (Holding up well) Also, the wide selection of stock (no upcharge) shafts is one of the best I have ever seen in a driver offering. It virtually guarantees finding one that will work with your swing. It turned out that, in looking back at my numbers from testing, the stock Kai'Li White shaft (low spin!) gave me the best results, including over the premium shafts I tried in the standard Qi10. Finally, the loft sleeve and adjustability settings just work. Launch angle and spin were affected precisely as predicted by settings changes. The adjustability from the sleeve exceeded my expectations, and is better IMO than that offered by Callaway in the drivers to which I am accustomed. The only small demerits (- 2 points) I have to offer on the standard Qi10 result from the absence of a movable weight to affect draw/fade bias (which can be had in the Max and LS models) or the ability to move fixed weights around the head to do the same. I find this quality very helpful in drivers, and TaylorMade provides this variability effectively in its other models. Why not all? Does the Qi10 Earn the Octopus (a/k/a Play it or Trade it)? (19 out of 20) Trade it. And maybe. Let me explain. The standard Qi10 just did not fit my spin tendency, plain and simple. And it's not designed to! The Qi10 LS was designed for players like me, who need to keep spin low. If you are a golfer who can generate consistent distance without spin issues, seeking truly outstanding accuracy, playability, and forgiveness in a slightly more traditional-shaped head as compared to the "max forgiveness" offerings from TaylorMade and other brands, then you should definitely try the Qi10. Luckily for me, the kindof guy who can spin a ball off a boat oar, I have made a friend (well, lots of friends) here at MGS. More particularly, @GolfSpy_BEN who tested the Qi10 LS model very graciously offered to swap his LS with me for the standard model. I hope he makes a love connection (y'know what I mean) with the Qi10 I sent him. As for me and the LS? With one round in the books, I can say without hesitation the LS model is better for my game. Please read about my very encouraging first experience with the LS here: So, my testing will continue, and I will report back in this thread with frequent updates, and eventually a decision on where The Octopus will live long-term! Conclusion The TaylorMade Qi10 is undoubtedly an excellent driver. Packed full of improvements and technology, in the hands of a very wide range of golfers, it will provide distance potential, accuracy, and forgiveness in an aesthetically attractive package. Even those seeking the highest levels of forgiveness should try it, alongside the Qi10 Max driver. For the subset of golfers whose swings foment silica nanoparticle equivalent spin, like your author (Google it), a lower spin model may be more appropriate. TaylorMade has you (and maybe me) covered with the Qi10 LS. More to come on that front! FINAL SCORE: 93 / 100 THANK YOU to MyGolfSpy and TaylorMade for this excellent opportunity for me and my fellow testers!
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  8. Taylormade Qi10 Max Driver Official MGS Forum Member Review by Michael.Sandoval33 Greetings from Sunny Southern California! A Tidbit About Me As you may be able to tell, my name is Michael. I am currently 33 years old, a beginner-level player, and this is my official foray into the amazing world of MGS testing! I was born and raised in San Jose, California where when it came to sports growing up, you played football. And I was pretty ok... until my knee... These days, I am studying for my Bachelor's Degree in Software Programming. Beyond that, I enjoy the little things like spending time outdoors with my Fiancé and our ball of wireless energy Mr. Pickles, or lounging around watching the next episode of the show we are enthralled by. Picking The Game Back Up Growing up, I played from time to time in Middle School with my older brother. He was never really into it, but I appreciated the times we went out to the course as brothers. From there, I would play down in San Diego with friends at a nine-hole on the weekends, but it was all for fun as we used rental clubs from the pro shop. All of that changed towards the end of October when a buddy in Virginia insisted I start playing before my visit this fall. Daily visits to the range and many visits to the courses later and I now think that I may be slightly addicted, though only slightly. Currently, the weakest aspect of my game is finding the fairway from the tee and I am looking to vastly improve in that area during testing. [Heartwell GC in Long Beach, CA] Well... What About The Test? I am going to be testing the Qi10 Max primarily at the driving range and out on the course. I have also committed myself to at the very least, (2) indoor sim sessions per week. As the testing unfolds, I am open to member suggestions on how you would like to see the Qi10 tested, which will further broaden the testing parameters. As I am fully aware of my current handicap and preconceived notions regarding such, I welcome every opportunity to provide an insightful perspective from my personal skill level. In my testing, the key is in the forgiveness of the 10K MOI that Taylormade has generated. My expectations are mountain-esque for this product, especially so after reading the release information on the Qi10 as well as the buzz from the world of Golf. As of writing, I expect to see results that display a consistent carry distance and flight path, especially when contact with the ball is not directly centered. I am currently looking for a fairway finder, and if the driver can truly deliver a solid and consistent offering while helping elevate my game to the next level, this is no doubt a club that will stay in my bag after testing. I would like to graciously thank the forum staff here at MGS for the amazing opportunity and I am ecstatic to embark on this journey with you all! *FITTING UPDATE!* *Why I Signed Up For The Test* *Unboxing Update* First Impressions (18 out of 20) When I was selected to test the Qi10 Max, I had lofty expectations from all of the claims that Taylormade had placed on the levels of forgiveness promised with the 10k MOI. As my first season of golf was already in full gear, I was ready to begin using the club as soon as it arrived at my front door. There is not much that can be said negatively about the looks of the Qi10 Max. However, when I unboxed the club, my initial thought was, "It is bigger than I remember it being at the fitting." Even with that being said, the Qi10 is still in the running to win the Beauty Pageant. The carbon blue face carries an understated "Bang" that cannot be missed. The Taylormade symbol at the top of the head provides a simple touch, acting as an effective alignment aid that I find easy to look at behind the ball with added confidence. The bottom of the head has been compared to various sci-fi spaceships, which is fair. To me, the club is more similar to something straight from the world of Formula One with its sleek and aerodynamic shape and lines along the bottom of the head. One thing is for sure after taking the Qi10 out on a few dates, other people are taking notice. Especially when she is out in her fancy dress. Aesthetics (9 out of 10) As mentioned in my first impressions, the Qi10 Max is quite the beast when addressing the driver from the tee as it is the largest model in the Qi10 line. But I am still a big fan of the dark blue face with the black carbon crown while the Taylormade logo used as an alignment aid adds a clean touch. Pairing the head with the Fujikura Ventus Blue 5-S shaft, the Qi10 Max is a sight to behold as the blue & black colorways match perfectly. The bottom of the head does have a lot more going on with the silver lines that run across paired with the larger Taylormade and Qi10 Max branding which attracts attention from other players. Still, as it is the bottom of the head, the markings are not a deterrence and I found myself rarely looking at them. When connecting with the ball, the driver's sound is very subtle both on flush shots and mishits. While not particularly loud, you do know when you have hit the ball. On the off-chance that you completely miss the carbon face, it does sound and feel like you have hit a rock. This occurred on a couple of occasions but it was expected on such misses. Nothing aesthetically with the Qi10 affected my performance throughout testing as I preferred the overall calmness that the driver provided. The Numbers (7 out of 10) When I first started testing the Qi10 Max, the dispersion was not as tight as expected. The larger head was daunting to me and I found that my shots were constantly fading off the tee into what would be considered out of bounds. Throughout my continued use and as my comfort with the driver grew, the grouping of my shots vastly improved though the fade never fully went away, even when adjusting the loft sleeve of the driver to both open and close the face. In that same sense, the Qi10 was very forgiving to me as I grew accustomed to knowing no matter where I connected off the face, the ball was either going to launch and stay straight or fade late in its carry and well within the ranges I was seeking. The loft setting that I did find myself comfortably adjusted at was 11.5 degrees and paired with the mid-launch/mid-spin design of the Ventus shaft, the trajectory and distances I was seeing were both what I was searching for. On-Course (18 out of 20) Here it is, the most important part of my testing, how does the Qi10 Max perform when it is time to come out and play? Based on the Arccos data that I was able to gather, the driver did exactly what I asked of it. I mentioned in my introduction that I was looking for a fairway finder and that is what the Qi10 Max is. I was able to hit the fairways 71% of the time while missing to the right 26% of the time which was expected based on the driving range stats. My favorite shot with the Qi10 Max was easily Hole 7 at Recreation Park 9 GC in Long Beach, CA where I was able to clear a large water hazard with confidence I did not have before my testing and that was by far my biggest "This Is It" moment. With each use, my confidence continued to build. When I hit the ball from the tee, I knew I would look down the fairway knowing the next shot was going to be in play. The distance was less important to me than some of my fellow, more experienced testers. But knowing that my yardage around the tee averaged around 200 yards, I quickly learned how to continue setting up the rest of my play after my initial tee-off. Final Performance Comments: In the end, with the Qi10 Max, I went from constantly playing smaller courses due to my skill level and lack of confidence, to tackling the larger 18-hole par 72 courses. I was able to break the 100 barrier twice (both times shooting 97) which I absolutely would not have accomplished so quickly in my time golfing without the driver. According to GHIN, I took my initial handicap of 29.5 down to a very respectable 23.3. The fact that I was able to achieve this over the short 6 week testing period is a true testament to the performance I saw from the Qi10 Max. The Good, the bad, the in-between (18 out of 20): The Good: Without question, the looks and on-course performance of the Qi10 Max were very good to me. I enjoyed pulling up to the first tee, pulling the driver out of my bag, and knocking one clean down the fairway (or close to it). One question that was brought up numerous times was concerning the face of the Qi10 and how well it held up compared to the last generation of Taylormade Stealth models. Through all of the testing, the face barely showed any sign of use besides a range ball mark that will be permanently imprinted on the driver and takes nothing away from the performance. The Bad: The standard length for Taylormade drivers. The shaft is too long for my swing as most of my mishits were connected from the heel which ultimately led to the continued shot fading. The In-Between: While not the driver's fault, the in-between is 100% my swing which I will be looking to improve sooner rather than later. I cannot blame the hammer for the wielder's lack of experience and skill. Play it or Trade it? (18 out of 20) You have made it this far, am I going to play it or trade it? Without question, I am going to keep the Qi10 Max in the bag. I chose to keep the driver as stock as possible for testing purposes to give an honest review for newer golfers who might see the Qi10 Max available online and order without looking at any other available options. From here, however, I will be tinkering with different shafts, lengths, and head weights to find the perfect combination to suit my game. Conclusion: The Qi10 Max is a performer that gave me the confidence I was seeking on the course. It did take some time to adjust to the driver as a whole, but when I reached that point, I knew I had found the one for me. If you are looking for a driver that is going to keep you in bounds and in play, the Qi10 Max is an option you should seek to test out for yourself. It may not be the longest out of all of the drivers on the market, or even within the Qi10 line, but there is no doubt it can perform with the best out there. Final Score (88 out of 100)
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  9. Well it’s Baaaaaaack!! My somewhat annual driver shootout. As many of you know jn years past. I picked up the expected hot drivers of the year and tested them out. It’s certainly nothing official like MWT does. But I do get some actual data—both from the range and on course with ProVs I will give both LM data and just real world here’s what I think thoughts. Some days I’ll post just about one that I played that day and another day may be where I took all of them out for a driving session on the course. To begin with it’s going to be what I think are the 3 most talked about drivers of the early season. Callaway Smoke Ai -Shaft Tensei AV Black 55 R PING G430 Max 10K -Alta CB 55 R TaylorMade Qi10 -Graphite Deaign QC5 R Some others may be added but not at the very beginning. Here’s the starting lineup
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  10. Who I am – MGS Tester Introduction My name is Chris and welcome. I am a 65 year old male and I live with my artist wife Sue and two huskies in Oakville, in the greater Toronto area in Ontario, Canada. To put things into perspective the province of Ontario is 1.5 times larger than the state of Texas and 4 times the size of the U.K. Why I am testing: I am very grateful to MGS and L.A.B. and excited by this opportunity. I am keen to see if the L.A.B. DF3 and its lie angle balance approach to putter design works as claimed. It was designed to eliminate torque and produce a repeatable swing. The DF3 is the smaller, sleeker version of its bigger brother, the directed force, DF2, but does it deliver the goods? It has gained significant traction on tour and begs the question of how it stacks up to my fitted reference putter(s). VERSUS But this is no ordinary Evnroll. It has been fitted and modified with a stability tour shaft and an Evnroll gravity grip. For more information on this and my putting statistics, see, What am I looking for in the L.A.B. DF3: I gave a lot of thought on how I would test this if given the opportunity before applying. I am a fairly decent putter averaging 31 to 32 putts per round based on my Arccos data. If it proves to deliver the putter more consistently to the ball and results in more one putts, less three putts and overall, less putts per round, it will be a candidate to go in the bag permanently. I am particularly interested in how it performs from 10’ feet and in. Does it offer good value for the money? My putter testing protocol including testing on Quintic to follow in a separate post. Moreover, thorough testing of the L.A.B. DF3 will focus me on improving my putting and working on my putting drills. So thankyou MyGolfSpy. Making those short putts is critical. Who I am: I am driven by challenges and the constant need to learn and improve and I’m passionate in what I do. I am also data driven and analytical in nature. Needless to say, I am a golf, data and equipment junkie. I have had many careers. After graduate school, I did medical research looking at factors involved in preterm labour. I then moved onto organ donation and transplantation, eventually running the organ donation program based out of Toronto General Hospital. Toronto General hospital (TGH) is one of the premier transplant centres and hospitals in the world. They pioneered both successful single and double lung transplantation in the eighties. I had the distinct pleasure of working in multi organ transplant in the early days (80’s/90’s) and worked with many brilliant and incredibly smart people. Where the driving principle was you do what’s best for the patient and what does the data show. What is the source of that data, is it evidence based, is it fair, balanced, and non promotional in nature. You had to know your stuff and be prepared for anything. Back then it was routine to work 24-36 hours straight procuring and transplanting organs. Think of the guy getting off the Lear jet in OR greens with a cooler. I was that guy. I’ve been in every teaching hospital and most ICU’s (intensive care units) across Canada and many in the US. No frequent flyer miles I’m driven by the need to learn, push myself and enjoy what I do. I then transitioned to career 3, moving to the “dark side” starting with Wyeth and then Pfizer in their Rare Disease group and the launch of Rapamycin for organ transplantation. So, I stayed in transplant, interacted with all the people I worked with for many years, although now in a different capacity. If you’re going to go to industry, it’s the best way to go. Over time, bleeding disorders (hemophilia) and growth disorders were added to my portfolio but the same guiding principle of doing what’s best for the patient and what does the data actually show, guided me. Career 4, presented itself during the pandemic and the opportunity to take early retirement with no more Zoom calls and the opportunity to be a full time golf aficionado and pickleball player was too irresistible to pass up. My other passions are building, home renovation and cooking. When I was young, I bought a water access shell of a cottage as my first property. Not being handy at the time, I proceeded to take courses in construction, carpentry, electrical and plumbing. I then proceeded to completely wire the cottage, plumb it, insulate it, drywall, install flooring, build the kitchen, bathroom, etc. I’ve built and rebuilt docks, decks, so hence the handyman moniker. There’s not much I can’t do, although with age comes wisdom. Golf: I have been playing golf on and off for 40 plus years. After not playing golf for 10+ years, I got back into golf at the age of 60. I was inspired by a friend who once said, golf is the only game you can play for 30 years and never improve. When I thought about it, it is rather true, so I was determined to do it right the second time around. At the time I was about a 25ish handicap. Hence lessons, fitted equipment and diligent practice. I was inspired again when I went to Tour Experience Golf (TXG) 5+ years ago and came out not only with expertly fitted and built clubs, but many new friends. I now go at least twice a year to tweak my setup. My current handicap is 6.3, but I have been as low as 4 or high as 8.5. Most of my rounds are in the 78 - 82 range. My home course is TPC Toronto at Osprey Valley featuring 3 courses all ranked within the top 60 courses in Canada and all 3 in the top 20 public courses in Canada. TPC Sawgrass, I’m the guy in the middle in the blue and black. I love scenic, challenging courses, especially mountain or coastal courses. What drives me is hitting good shots and being consistent. My philosophy is if you hit good shots the score will “usually” take care of itself. If you don’t like the score, play better. I am competitive, however, I play more for the joy of the game. I strive to improve each year and keep father time at bay. Now, my day job is golf, pickleball and my two huskies. Myah (front) and Hazel (rear) Thank you for your patience and understanding in reading my introduction. Unboxing and Initial impressions of the L.A.B. DF3, aka the Lab Rat The L.A.B. DF3 putter has arrived and the blue Lab Rat is in the house. Overall: An excellent opening start to testing of the L.A.B. DF3. This is one seriously good putter. Great weight, feel and balance. Alignment and distance control were outstanding. Precision and accuracy are the two words that keep coming up when I think of this putter and the results convey that. Very similar putting stats versus my historical 50 round average, although with subtle and slight differences. Where I have already seen a difference is a slight positive trend in strokes gained as well as an slight increase in one putts and decrease in three putts. Only one three putt after three rounds. Two things stand out so far, how good it is inside 10 feet and its distance control. Is it ready to replace my Evnroll in the bag? Ah, not so fast. We’re still a long way, many more rounds and much testing from there. However, an intriguing and impressive opening start with the L.A.B. DF3 Score 15/15 Initial impressions. This is a premium, very high quality and very well built putter. Great balance, weight and feel. It sits beautifully and feels very smooth. The TPT shaft is premium and gorgeous. Love the pistol grip. Overall, this putter is stunning and gorgeous. Very impressed with L.A.B. and this putter. The looks of this putter are intoxicating. To get a custom hand built and balanced putter from the west coast in a week is insanely crazy and fast. Unboxing link First round and initial impressions link And without further ado a live unboxing of the L.A.B. Putter and initial reaction. It’s short and only 90 seconds. Looks: the DF3 is noticeably sleeker and significantly smaller than the DF2.1 In person, the putter, while still unique looking, is gorgeous. You grow to love its unique and intoxicating looks. However, the DF3 is still a large putter. It didn’t take long (first hole) for someone to say, what the hell is that. It’s a L.A.B. A what? But of course, they had to try it. Sound: Soft, but firm muted feel little higher in pitch than the Evnroll. Alignment: Exceptional alignment, very easy to align with line on my ball, Callaway Chrome soft X LS triple track Feel, weight and balance: Great feel, weight and balance. Love how it’s sits and lies. The stroke is very smooth. It provided great feedback and was very consistent, precise Shaft/grip: Impressed by the feedback provided by LAB / TPT shaft. Very stable and instant feedback. Pistol grip felt super comfortable and felt great in my hands Distance control: excellent, almost made a 60’ missed by 3 inch phenomenal feel and control. Impressed from long distance. It was very consistent, no 3 putts, 5 one putts in a round where I had 4 putts of 50’ or more longish putts. Stats: Puttings stats (Arccos data) for round. Played TPC Toronto at Osprey Valley on the newly and extensively renovated North course. In short, this is now a championship level course. Overall, 31 putts, 5 single putts and 13 two putts. No 3 putts. VERSUS (Evnroll/Stability/Gravity grip combination) - Historical Control My putting statistics from Arccos over the last 50 rounds compared to a 0 handicap Comments: inside 5’ felt almost automatic, within 10’ also very good. As the round progressed, I felt more and more confident I could consistently make putts 10’ and less. I made several long putts. Another nice little touch, the hole in the putter makes it easy to pick up the ball, also known as the gimme getter. The first few holes, I left putts uncharacteristically short by 3-4’. At this point, my wife commented you putt better with the Evnroll. Well the LAB heard that and then began to show its mettle. I felt that once you get the proper read, set your alignment and then all you need to do is just get the ball rolling along its intended line. Basically, take it back with your usual stroke and then let the putter do its thing. Nice start to the testing of the DF3.
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  11. Well it has come time for Jason, Hayes and Mark to graduate into their GolfSpy tags. All three have done exceptional work behind the scenes and helped us make significant strides with the Forum in various manners. They also are now consistently being published on the main site and seeing their content make a splash. Honestly we could go on, but we are proud to give them official GolfSpy tags as the go from interns to... well interns with GolfSpy tags. Thanks guys for all your hard work and congrats on your new titles! As for why they chose what they did you will have to ask them! Hayes formerly known as Getoffmylawn (name is still reserved for his alter ego) @GolfSpy AFG Jason formerly known as Jnoble89 (don't think anyone is taking that tag) @GolfSpy_KFT Mark formerly lacassem (sorry nothing quick witted to say) @GolfSpy_SHARK (sorry no @) available for ya!
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  12. Okay we have a pretty unique opportunity open to all members in the US regardless of whether they are testing something currently or not. The process is simple, but you need to read and follow instructions in order to take part. What is it? Bridgestone is looking for up to Forum members to get a free dozen Bridgestone Mindset golf balls for sampling. Yes, you read that right up to 125 members. That's not all though, if you are in a part of the country that isn't able to golf right now, don't worry! Next month we will run this back for another week and another 125 members. Then again the next month and the month after that for a total of up to 500 members! Note: Each member is only eligible to participate once! Pick your month for when you can golf the most and get the most out of this opportunity! A huge thank you and shout out to Bridgestone for this. So how do you apply and what do you have to do? Step 1: Watch this YouTube video Then watch it again. Seriously, a second time would be beneficial and it is only 2 minutes long. Step 2: Go over to Bridgestones website and go through their Ball Selection Guide. https://www.bridgestonegolf.com/en-us/find-my-ball/ball-selector-tool#/ Once you have done that you will know which ball is best for you! Easy. Post a screenshot or photo of your results. Step 3: Fill out this form and answer all the questions correctly! Questions need to be correct in order to be eligible for the free dozen golf balls. Link below for those that are not able to fill out as is in the forum above. There are two sections - one for the questionnaire and second for shipping information to be sent to Bridgestone. (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc1xWU_2ZHalyaHbKJGBO-KP5nCs5iYtTa6W9XMUvM96IUUrQ/viewform?usp=sf_link) Step 4: Wait for your golf balls and get ready to start posting! We will leave this open for 1 week and then send all the correct responses to Bridgestone for them to ship out the golf balls. Few final notes for this opportunity - There will be no PM or other message confirming your participation. When the golf balls show up we will ask that you post and share your experience with them. We will create that thread after the opportunity has closed. Last - take an extra minute and read all of this again! In this case it really pays to read and follow instructions! Thanks all!
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  13. Looks like the golf balls will be arriving soon for many of our many many testers! @PJVicary @BKervin @warrenator8 @CLenahan @JeremyD @Fred Mitchell @GolfSub70 @fixyurdivot @GolfSpy_APH @scotter032 @TheProfessor02 @Ben Joest @Getoffmylawn @Jnoble89 @Zman56 @Schobel0804 @ArizonaLogan @dlm @gingerbeast87 @golfinnut @HikingMike @GolfSpy_BNG @rkj427 @Javs @CFreddie @azstu324 @MyCatsMom @SpanishHands @vandyland @Randall Robbins @Parshooter36 @funkyjudge @Tom the Golf Nut @jbern @Preeway @GolfSpy BOS @Woodrow72 @RockerFCC @Hook DeLoft @jdparker @Cshane12 @RoverRick @Rob Person @tdroma98 @ZMendle10 @2puttbogey @J7Hawkins @Shlax @DukeStKing @glenmore5 @DonnieGolfs @Prodigal Duffer @Emag315 @tbarnes80 @EugeGall @Contron @TJ Hall @d0m41n @Cfhandyman @DMcA @ZoonORama @MichaelC_81 @Matumbo @Leonvdwesthuizen @JackBurtonsPorkchopExpress @Slater @buckpillar @MH15 @RonnieB @GolfSpy SAM @snoopy79 @NubianRugby @JohnH1 @Alf. S @sglj3 @RjGolf4Life @brogies @ClarkWGriswoldIII @Peejer @CK1over @taylorjonasher @ctg44 @jj1010 @Lacassem Okay that is a lot of names to tag... my fingers are sore. Be sure to check into this thread to see all the updates as tester get their white back from Titleist and read their experiences! Ask questions and lets have some fun with this!
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  14. NOT ONE, NOT TWO, But THREE winners of VOKEY SM10 Wedges Courtesy of Titleist and Vokey Wedges A big thank you to the entire Vokey Team for their awesome support of the Forum and this contest! Read THE Entire post or you may be in danger of missing out on a crucial Step. We don't want any DQ's here! Wedge play at Augusta National can be the difference between winning and losing...just ask Larry Mize 1987, Tiger Woods 2005--remember that one---or even Zach Johnson 2007-laying up to a wedge on all 4 par 4's all four days. So with that we are happy to announce that Titleist Vokey Wedges is sponsoring our 2023 Masters Pool. Read below for the details.... 2024 MASTERS POOL SPONSORED BY VOKEY WEDGES-- Everyone picks a team of 6 golfers. Add your best 4 of 6 golfers scores to form your team score. The best team score wins the pool. Cut golfers (and anyone who doesn’t finish 4 rounds) get 80 for any rounds not completed. Playoff holes do not count. HOW TO JOIN THE POOL Pick your team of golfers here: Join the MGS Vokey Masters Pool Here Follow the action live Live Leaderboard MY Golf Spy Rules for This Contest Please read the 3 Rules Below, there are only two, but if they are not followed completely, your entry will be disqualified. 1) You MUST be a registered member of the Forum to win 2) Your entry MUST be your FORUM USER NAME! as the Team Name when you register!! (NOTE-If the contest will not aacept your exact user name due to punctuation-send me a DM for instructions on how to proceed) Any names that don't match and do not contact me will be DQ'd. 3): please make a post in this thread before the event begins with the following two answers-Note these tie breakers come into play after the Tie Breaker inside the actual contest. If any of those rules are not followed your entry will be disqualified! Also Multiple entries not allowed. Any duplicate entries will be deleted 1st Tie Breaker What is the Cut Number. Such as -4 and better makes the cut 2nd Tie Breaker -Who will be the low amateur If a tie still exists, the winner will be selected at random by the moderation team PRIZES!!! 1st Place: The first Place winner will receive a set of 3 Vokey SM10 Wedges-Your choice of loft, grind and finish. 2nd Place-Three Vokey SM10 wedges of your choice, loft and grind and finish 3rd Place Three Vokey SM10 wedges of your choice of Loft and Grind Entries will close at 11:59 EST Wednesday April 10, 11:59 EST Entries will automatically lock then. NOTE: Not required, but feel free to go to the Vokey Wedge Selector Tool and find out which wedge would best fit you, and feel free to share your selections here. If you win, you will still have time to submit your final specs and choices to us. This is purely for fun, and perhaps to get you ahead of the game if you win! Vokey Wedge Selector Tool
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  15. Intro and About Me First off thanks to MGS for this great opportunity to test one of the hottest product launches of 2024. I have been a member of the site for a lot of years and have done several tests for products over the years and it is nice to be back after being quiet on the site for a few years. So a little about me… I am 47 and for the first time in close to 10 years I actually live at home with my wife of 23 years and my three children. My wife and I met at 19 and well she somehow hung onto me for going on close to 28 years….yes she is a saint and supports my golf addiction. I have a soon to be 18 year old son that is a senior in high school and will be heading to Johnson and Wales in the fall. A 15 year old daughter that is a freshman in high school and just taking the game of golf back up so she can play in high school. Last but not least 12 year old daughter that turns 13 next week and is the reason I have a gray beard and drink. We also have a five year old St. Bernard named Sebastian that came to live with us after my best friend passed away. Career wise I am a finance guy by trade and am a CPA and have my MBA. From 2010 until late last year I was in the casino business and as mentioned above I either lived away from home or travelled so much that I was never home very much. I spent close to a decade with the Genting Group so if you have ever been to a Resorts World property in the US I was part of the design team as well as the opening team for just about every property. Now that I have decided to grow up and stop playing casino I work from home four days a week and am the CFO for a software company that develops slot machine content as well as iGaming infrastructure. It is a good gig and I am starting to get adjusted to being home all the time and working a more traditional job. Overall it was a positive move and allows me to have a little more free time on my hands My Golf Story My golf career started when I was two years old and my grandparents starting taking me to the course. I had a cut down left handed 7 iron that I would wack away at on the course and somehow was pretty natural at it. I started taking some very basic lessons when I was about 5 and then was essentially self taught from that point forward. The four lessons at the end of Golf Magazine from Jack Nicklaus was my guide for close to a decade. I spent many years on the course with my Grandfather and by the time I was about 8 or 9 I was beating him and his group fairly regularly. Around the age of 10 I stopped playing left handed and started playing on the correct side of the ball and was a scratch handicap by the age of 14. I have pretty much stayed scratch or better most of my adult life with my lowest index being about a +5.6. I unfortunately grew up in the pre-Tiger era where golf was not cool so I played baseball, football and wrestled in high school. I was on my high school golf team but considering that the season was the same as football I played matches very infrequently. When I went to college I was supposed to play baseball and thanks to a nasty shoulder injury my freshman year I got an opportunity to walk onto the golf team and the rest was history. Golf became my number one sport and baseball became a hobby that I played until my late 30’s. My game these days can be summed up as I can make a 7 from places I should make 4 and 4 from places I should make a 7. I have always had distance on my side and can still move it pretty well for someone my age. Iron play has always been good and really good from 100 yards and in. Putting was my nemesis for a lot of years, but I have finally tamed the beast to get to where I am average at worst and have days that I can make everything I look at. Bit of an older video of my swing but not much has changed in 5 years. Testing Plan So the last question is what do I want to get out of this test? Well, quite simply I am chasing distance for the first time in my life. Chasing may not be the right term but more appropriately preserving distance. I am playing CB irons for the first time since college because well I am just not long enough with blades anymore. I have also moved full time to graphite in my irons as being a pitcher for over 30 years is starting to catch up with me physically. In full disclosure the last TM driver that was in my bag was the R1 and that was just a short stint. I would have to go way back to the R7 to say that I had a TM driver in my bag for and extended period of time. The M series and I just never got along for various reasons and it just became a brand that I was not interested in. Will the Qi10 change all that???? Stick around and we can find out together. I plan to test this driver primarily on the range to start since well I live in NY and we are in later winter. I will try and provide as many numbers as I can from launch monitor data or as much as I am comfortable with. I tend to not try and get caught up in the numbers but prefer to go by the eye test. As for competition I have two drivers for comparison; my gamer which is TSR 3 with a HZRDUS RDX Smoke Blue 60 TX and a Rogue ST Max LS with an AD DI 7x turned down two degrees. Looking forward to the process and maybe I will discover a driver I would have normally overlooked in the new releases. ...and man I gonna miss playing this place every week. First Impressions (19 out of 20) My driver arrived safe and sound in the typical box and packaging that most of the OEMs use these days so no major surprises there. In the box there was the driver that was packed well enough, a spec sheet and the head cover. I know it has been mentioned but the lack of a weight tool is a real detractor. Like many I have dozens of them so it is not an issue for me, but if you are upgrading to this driver as your first major purchase not having the tool could be another $10 to $15 on top of a close to $700 driver. To contrast when I got my TSR3 through it came not only with the head cover and the wrench but also a nice little pouch that held the wrench…..sometimes small touches are really nice. First thing that I did once I had some time to get into the workshop was get the specs and measure them to the stated specs. As shown below they were spot on according to my tools and the loft I am deeming close enough since I don’t have a loft/lie machine that plays well with Twist Face. The only detraction that I can really say was I ordered mine with a slightly heavier weight in the back and it was shipped with the standard 2g weight. Not a huge issue but again for a $700 driver the specs should be spot on as ordered. Also a bit of a pro tip…the back weight is held in with blue locktite so a little bit of heat is needed before you try and remove the weight. OEM Spec Actual Spec Swing Weight D4 D3.7 Length 45 3/4" 45 3/4" Loft 9* 9* as best I could measure Headweight was spot on.... Now onto the looks category. In a word this driver is just stunning! I like that they have moved away from the red and black and into the black and blue color way; it is really a nice look. The head cover is done really well and one little touch that was nice is the TM logo that is on the bottom of the head cover is a soft plastic that actually flexes a little bit. Nice touch that shows someone spent some time designing the head cover. One immediate reaction I had to this driver is that it looks like it has no loft on it. Not sure if this is the Twist Face effect or not, but it has a very tall flat appearing face. I do really like that new Infinity Carbon Crown that they are using for this driver. One of my put offs with TM in the past was the two tone top that I just could never get used to looking at. The line that contrasts the face to the crown was also a really nice addition, helps a lot with the alignment of the club head which is a nice subtle touch. L to R: 2016 M2, Qi10 LS, TSR3 My Specs: Qi10 LS 9* with a HZRDUS Blue 60g 6.5 Gamer Specs: TSR3 10* (set at 9.25*) with a HSRZDU Blue PVD 60 TX Due to the weather in NY since this driver has arrived I have only been able to get in one range session with the driver and my initial thoughts really boil down to two main points aside from how good it looks behind the ball. First is that this driver really does kill spin and at some point I see myself possibly having to put some loft into the head. Jury is still out on this since I am not yet to cruising speed and I was hitting garbage range balls. I generally play a spinner ball so this just maybe the day and the balls I was hitting but out of the 35 or so balls I hit with it there were some dippers that fell out of the sky which is not what I ever want to see. Secondly this driver is really flat….like really really flat. Set at the standard setting the driver has a lie angle of 54* which is 4* flatter than the similar offering from Callaway and 4.5* flatter than the TSR4. My current gamer is a TSR3 that I have set 1* upright so it is at 59.5* or 5.5* more upright than the Qi10 LS. Not sure if this will make a difference but thanks to the loft sleeve there is a setting that only adjusts the lie which takes it up 4*. For now I am not changing this setting based on the limited balls I have hit that were in a nice grouping on the face just slightly toe side of center which is my normal strike pattern. Lot's of options for adjustment Overall I am really looking forward to diving into the real testing and put this driver through its paces. Early results are very promising and with some time and possibly some tweaks this could be a winner for me. As a side note I have jumped all in on the TaylorMade brand mostly because of this test. As I stated in my intro I have not had a TM club in my bag in ages and now the entire top end of my bag is TM. I had a failed experiment with a 7 wood and was scrambling to find something that I could build before heading to FL for a week. Had a choice of a TSi2 five wood or a Sim. Three weeks ago I would not even have considered the Sim and after two rounds I absolutely love it….does exactly what I need it to do. Combine that with a good friend of mine the “loaned” me an M5 three wood and a Sim2 Rescue to try along with the driver and I am almost a TM fanboy. TaylorMade Qi10 LS Final Review by Jmikecpa Well, I can’t believe the official review period has come to a close but I guess it is time for my final thoughts. I would again really like to thank MyGolfSpy and TaylorMade for this fantastic opportunity as it has been a blast. Now onto the final verdict and if the Qi10 LS will have a spot in my bag. Asthetics (10 out of 10) As I said in my initial impressions this club is just a beautiful looking driver and has a classic shape. In the past I was not a fan of the color scheme as well as how the carbon crown was blended into the face. In the Qi10 they just got it right. From a shelf appeal standpoint I would grab this and give it a swing just on looks alone. The feel and the sound match the looks and it all is just spot on. The feel to me is powerful with a nice crisp crack at impact. Also a huge fan of the blue face over the red that was in the Stealth and an A+ to TaylorMade as after close to 1,000 balls hit the face looks like new with little to no signs of wear. The Numbers (7 out of 10) This aspect has been a mixed bag for me and the static numbers in a word were poor. If I had not been able to hit this driver outdoors it would not have made it past swing number five on Trackman. It seemed about every fourth or fifth ball would result in a low spin dipper that went nowhere but down and hard left. I should note that I have not hit one ball outdoors that I was able to replicate this shot and saw good results on balls not hit into a net or a screen. I am rating this lower mainly due to the fact that if I had an indoor fitting with this driver I would have just said not for me and moved on. I know that everyone wants data and numbers but it just was not working for me during this test and after two indoor sessions on Trackman I just decided to see what I could get on the course as that is where it really matters. From a ball flight standpoint this driver launches low for me at around 10.2* on average and spins just over 2,000 RPMs on quality strikes. Due to my issues with getting dipping flights indoors it lead to a lot of heel strikes just to avoid the shot I never wanted to see. Again I just needed to get out of playing data scientist and just get out and play and use the eye test and Arccos to gather the numbers that were meaningful to me. On the Course (18 out of 20) I have been able to play a handful or rounds with the Qi10LS due to weather as Long Island this time of the year is hit and miss. It should also be mentioned that my rounds were played in less than optimum conditions that were mostly cold (two rounds with temps in the 30’s) and a lot of wind…..I mean a lot of wind. I have had a lot of time on the range thanks to my daughter playing high school golf and can honestly say I have practiced more in the last two months than I have in the last three years combined. The initial on course experience for me was at best up and down to put it in the best light. The good was really, really good and the mediocre was worse than what I would expect. I did give a mystery shaft a try for part of the test and it has some promise but may be too radical of a change for me right now. I was able to do a mini fitting with this club and the fitter put me in a UST Quantum Purple which is a very light shaft for me but the idea was to give a little more launch and keep the stability that I like. Results were mixed so I stayed with the HZRDUS Smoke RDX Blue for the majority of the test. In a nutshell the driver became a numbers hero and with some work I could learn to trust it on the course. I played a round yesterday morning in mid 40’s temperatures and sustained 30 mph winds with gusts near 50 mph. I had thought about bailing on my tee time due to weather but gave it a go for the sake of one more data point for this test…..and I am glad that I did. My sentiment going into the round was that I had one more round and then I could go back to my gamer and stop struggling along with the Qi10 LS. That sentiment changed yesterday and I began to realize that what I am looking for in a driver has changed since moving back to NY. Yesterday’s round was at a club that is local to me that I have not played in about 8 or so years that consists of three nine hole layouts. One of the layouts is a parkland style course while the other two nines are out along the water. I was fortunate to have my opening nine on the parkland course and only was subjected to nine holes of absolutely crazy wind. Round started on a hole that I would normally hit a 5 wood or hybrid and thanks to the 25 mph left to right wind blowing seven of the eight tee balls OB I was a bit jittery on the tee. Aimed up the left side and the wind never moved it from the start line. Knocked 30 yards off of it but it was safe and playable…no issues. This flipped a switch in my head that I had known but not exploited at all on the course. This driver is just flat out stable in the wind and with a decent pass it stays on the line that is intended. I saw that in range sessions but just could not trust that on the golf course so I started doing just that and had some great results. That little bit of trust went a long way. On #6 I finally unlocked the code and ripped a 341 yard bomb center cut leaving just over 40 yards into the green. #10 was another bomb that unfortunately ended up in a divot that I couldn’t take advantage of, but got the results. #13 was a hard left to right wind with OB left and right….drive stayed dead solid straight and found its way to the left center of the fairway. #14 was straight into a 40 mph wind and will just illustrate how hard the day was. I had to wait for the gusts to die down on the green since I was physically incapable of taking the putter back into the wind. At the end of the day I had zero balls OB or in any trouble and was just able to keep it in play. I ended up with a 75 on the day and had the low gross round of the day by 8 shots when I left after lunch to head home. This round got me thinking about something that I always had top of mind when I was playing a lot on Long Island and that was how does my equipment handle the wind. I started this test saying I want to preserve distance as I am getting older but now realize that playability is more important. In the six rounds that I have played with the Qi10 LS in the bag I have not had one penalty stroke off the tee which may be a record for me. I really needed the last round of this test to reset my expectations. The Qi10 LS is just as long as anything I have hit the last several years but the stability in flight is not something that I was used to. My early testing would bare this out as I had many times that I played to avoid the big miss and erred on being safe. Had I just trusted it a bit more then this would have been a much more positive review period. That being said the outlook is positive and I am no longer counting down the days until the review period was ending. Early season stats after 5 rounds with the Qi10 LS.....I will take these stats. The Good, the Bad and the In Between (18 out of 20) The good is the flight and how stable the ball is in the wind. I saw this on the range and just struggled with trusting it on the course. The club responds very well to what you put into it and it is really just point and shoot. This is what most would term as the “player’s” model but I think that any decent ball striker that is in need of spin reduction could play this model as it is surprisingly forgiving for the design. Again as stated above this driver is just flat out stunning to look at behind the ball and I think that TaylorMade nailed it with the blue and silver color way. The only real knock that I have right now on the Qi10 LS it is a bit hard to turnover with the flat stock setting and just the design as a whole. I did move the sliding weight all the way to the heel and that was some help but this is a driver that is meant to be straight to a fade for most. I am toying with pulling the adapter and keeping to standard loft and put it in the upright setting, but that is for a later time. The in between is something that may seem minor but is a bit of an issue for me and that is the TaylorMade loft sleeve. I just seems like a not great design and it was a pain in the back side getting the head back on the shaft when I had it off the several times that I needed to pull the head. Could be that I am just used to Callaway or Titleist which to me are the best adapters out of all the major OEMs. Play it or Trade it (19 out of 20) Before yesterday I was going to punt on this section and say it needs further testing as I was just not there and I did not think that the golf I had played were a fair test of the club. After the performance yesterday the driver is firmly in the bag and I don’t see that changing. I may make some tweaks as conditions require but for the most part the settings and shaft will not be changing. The only change that I am making is taking the 4g of lead tape off the weight port and actually getting a proper weight for the club. Looking back at the testing period my highest score was 75 and that was in conditions that most would not even try and play in. I needed to adjust my expectations and when I looked back at the positive it far outweighed the negative once I looked at it objectively. I am not sure if I was expecting to be blown away and find my Excalibur and when that did not happen I started to sour a bit….maybe. From a numbers perspective it really is no better than my TSR3 but I can say that I would not have been able to keep the TSR3 on the planet yesterday. Unfortunately living on Long Island high wind and golf is a reality that I forgot about after three years in VA. Thanks to this test I now have a top end of the bag that is built for Long Island. Overall Score (91 out of 100) Conclusion Thanks again to TaylorMade and MyGolfSpy for allowing me to participate in this test and give my thoughts on one of the hottest drivers of 2024. My testing was a bit mixed but in the end there was a lot more good than bad and I found a driver that could be a staple in the bag for a few seasons (I am reformed and not buying every new club on the market). The mixed was more of trying to stick to initial goals of the test and not considering if this was the best for where my game is right now. The other positive that came from this testing period was my eyes were opened to a brand that for the most part I had written off for the last decade or so. The entire top end of my bag right now is TaylorMade with only the Sim2 hybrid not making the cut. When I sat down after my round yesterday and thought honestly about how the Qi10 LS performed I could not think that anything else would be better for me right now. If this driver performed the way it has in real rough weather I am looking forward to see how it performs under normal conditions. I will be popping back into the thread to give and update and a mid year review once we get to a more forgiving time of the year. As a bonus, this shot yesterday was hit with a 4 hybrid and landed in the hole……..but did not stay. Cut hybrid into a hook wind that never left the flag and to make matters worse I lipped out the putt for bird.
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  16. The whole saying it takes a village is true. Especially for the Forum. Our staff work so hard and put so much effort forth and our community is so responsive it hardly makes it feel like work. As forum staff we are truly appreciative of everyone in the community. However today I along with everyone else in the community want to give a special thanks and tip our caps to a very special member of our team. @GolfSpy TCB Today marks Tims 1 year anniversary of being on the Forum Staff and wow what a difference he has made in his short tenure here. He will never admit it and probably hate me for making this post, but it really needs to be recognized the work, time and efforts he puts forth to the forum. He is our Tour Commissioner and Founder of the MGS VCT. Without him that would not be a thing on the forum. He has sent countless emails back and forth to our dev and team to get that working and has found a few special members to help him through it all. He is also the designer of all the forum logos. The Jones Bag logo we all got... thats Tim! The... oh wait that will be coming soon... again Tim! Not only that but he also was the guy who designed all the orginal testers wanted and testers announced banners for IG and Twitter. This guy works hard and truly wants all the best for the forum. Constantly bringing up new ideas, thoughts and suggestions for us to help bring forth the forum to a better place. Oh yeah Womens Section thats Tim! I know many of you have had PMs with him and I really can just continue to say great things about what he does behind the scenes for the Forum. Needless to say I can go on and on, but want to make a special note of today being his official 1 year as a Forum Staff member and hope that all of you will congratulate Tim as well for celebrating this milestone! CONGRATS ON ONE YEAR TIM!!
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  17. Introduction Hello All, Like the screen name suggests, my name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die… Wait…That’s a different thread altogether… Let’s try this again. Like the screen name suggests, my name is, in fact, Ben Joest. I am 44 years old and a happily married father of 3. My progeny: Emma is 10, going on moody teenager. Katie just turned 9 and is my golfing ride or die. Lastly, is our son Noah, he is 4 and if he had been the first, he would be the only. Just energy and enthusiasm for days, and frankly it is exhausting. SWMBO, has mostly come to grips with my addiction to the little white ball, and carries with her the belief that this vice of mine beats similar afflictions involving booze, broads, or bets. The kids are active in youth sports and keep us running most of the year, so finding the time to play can be challenging at times. The family has decided that, when one is given such a magnificent opportunity to test out the latest offering from a preeminent equipment company such as Titleist, certain concessions are made on Dad’s behalf, isn't that right family? Go Team Joesty! My history with Titleist can be traced back to the early 2000’s. My first club of theirs was a second hand 975J Driver that I picked up in 2003. I have been playing golf in one form or fashion since I was a kid, growing up in the late 80’s, but prior to 2003, my clubs were mostly hand-me-down sets I inherited from my Uncle Mike, whenever he decided he was ready for an upgrade. Mostly MacGregors and Wilsons, and nothing so memorable that I can recall exact models, all these years later. That all changed in 2003. I started playing with a buddy from work, that gamed a Titleist 983K Driver and he hit it a mile. After one round, we were enjoying a frosty beverage and he asked a simple question, that looking back, completely changed my trajectory as a golfer. To that point, I was content to play whatever and hack it around the loop, occasionally collecting a par or a birdie, but mostly carding bogeys and doubles. He nonchalantly asked something to the effect of “Do you want to get better?” This question is so beguiling, as it instantly removes the scales from one’s eyes and forces an unwitting soul to reconcile the state of their game. After a brief pause, I responded, “Yes. Yes, I do.” And down the rabbit hole and into the wonderous kingdom of golf equipment I went. Looking back, it didn’t take long for me to develop the full-blown addiction and cobble together a decent set of used clubs. I grabbed a set of Taylor Made Super Steel Burner irons 3-PW from a buddy’s sister, who was selling her ex-husband’s clubs dirt cheap. I found the 975J Driver and 983 3 & 5 Woods at 2nd Swing, when they still had brick & mortar stores in the Cincinnati area. I topped it all off with a rusted oil can scotty Cameron putter that I found at an estate sale for $25 and a Callaway 56° wedge that I paid less than that for, under the auspices that I should probably have a sand wedge now that I am a serious golfer. I still have most of these clubs, but 975 driver is lost to History. Since that seed was planted 20+ years ago, I have had lots of other clubs, including a 905 driver I still have the head of, a 910D2 driver, and a set of 712 AP1 irons, that have come and gone. I recently added a set of T100s 4-PW to my stable, and they will be what I set my baseline numbers with for this test. As some of you may know, I have developed into a muscle back blade enthusiast. See the Who Doesn’t Want to Play a Muscle Back Iron? Thread for more details but the TL; DR: Is my game good enough to play muscle back blades? Is my game consistent enough to play muscle back blades? A little bit of background on the current state of my game. Throughout most of my adult life, my handicap hovered between 8-12. Which is a decent number and it meant that my scores lived in the 80’s, with an occasional low 80’s round and once I shot 78. As last season was ending, after some internal deliberations, I made a commitment to myself to improve. I purchased a net, a perfect practice putting mat, and at Christmas I received a Rapsodo MLM from my family. I spent the winter utilizing these tools to hone the rough edges of my game and joined a simulator league at the local practice facility. There is also a thread for the details of that. The additional hours spent have paid off, and I have worked my handicap down to a very respectable 4.3. With that in mind, I signed up to test the T150 irons. I am fascinated by Titleist’s attention to the nuances of one’s game when they fit a golfer into a set of irons. I will be sharing the fitting details in a separate post. The goal in all of this is to determine, if a well fitted set of irons can help me improve on what, according to the shot scope data, is already a strength of my game. My plan for testing these irons is, by design, going to be a bit free flowing as I don’t want to get trapped into a specific methodology and dismiss new ideas, so this is where this test becomes interactive with you, the constant reader. I will be putting calls out to the membership to glean what exactly folks want to see. However, without a loose outline, we are reduced to this: So with that in mind: · Using the MLM, I will use the current irons to set baseline numbers for club speed, ball speed, carry distance, total distance, and apex. · Also, dispersion will be looked at from the perspective of the average carry and lateral dispersion. A comparison will be made to determine if the T series improves these numbers and maintains a good gapping between clubs, as these 2 items are a key selling point for getting fitted into these irons. · Multiple range sessions with the T series, to accumulate an average for each club for comparison to the current set. · A baseline regarding strokes gained numbers through Shot Scope data ( See graph above) · At least one round per week, along with observations and results · Upon completion of the testing rounds, a comparison of how the strokes gained metric has improved or worsened over the course of testing. · Irons only rounds. To this, there have been some preliminary discussions about challenging the other Irons testers from this season to a “friendly” irons only battle royale. Details to follow. The current goal is shooting par or better this season, with breaking 70 clearly in my sights. Join me on this journey, as it is going to be a wild ride. Here is the link to my fitting post: Here is the link to my Unboxing/Initial Thoughts Post: Final Review First Impressions These irons are flawless. From an aesthetic standpoint, the T100 through T350 lines are a study in classic, elegant design. Titleist took pains to craft a range of irons that, from aesthetic and performance perspectives can be blended seamlessly. By doing so, they have given their fitting specialists the wherewithal to confidently blend T100’s with T150’s, T150’s with T200’s, etc. As described in my fitting post, I tested a blend of the T150 and T200 lines. PW-8i in the T150, 7i-5i in the T200, and because it was offered and encouraged by Titleist, I was also fit into the T200 Utility 4 iron to round out my 7-club set. Enough can’t be said about the Titleist fitting experience. The attention to detail is awe-inspiring. It starts with having the fitting on a natural turf driving range with a trackman unit set up to capture all the performance data in real time. Another aspect that separates this fitting from a big box retailer or smaller custom fitter, is the ability to hit every iron in each product line rather than just the 7 iron or a limited combination of each line. It progresses with the use of brand-new range balls to get things dialed in, followed by your choice of ProV1 or ProV1x to capture 3 shots, so that the fitter can make an accurate assessment of the choices he has determined are best for your game. The product of this fitting is an email with the golfer’s recommended build and specs. Also, because I can’t say enough nice things about my fitter, Jim I am including his contact info here, in the event any spies want to reach out to him: Under normal circumstances, the order is placed, and you receive a new set of irons 3-4 weeks later. Because our Titleist rep is a rock star, we all got our sets about a week and a half after the order was submitted. The shipping label on the boxes indicated that Titleist sent them standard overnight delivery. Again, a subtle detail that shows that Titleist knows they have a premium product, and with that comes high expectations, that they take the necessary steps to exceed. I was and continue to be impressed with every aspect of their customer service. (20 out of 20) Aesthetics These irons are a masterclass in elegance and design team has taken a minimalist approach to ornamentation. They are almost too pretty to hit. Although the T150 and T200 lines are built with forgiveness and performance in mind, from address it is easy to confuse the two. They have done a marvelous job avoiding one of the pitfalls of forgiving irons, in that the top line is clean and appears minimal. The T200 especially, doesn’t have the chunky topline that other hollow body player’s distance irons tend to have. Here are images of similar type irons: Taylor Made P790 Ping i230 Callaway Paradym Titleist T200 When at address, it can be tough to differentiate between the T150 and the T200. Which is which? It is only from the side that the difference becomes apparent. The make up of the irons themselves, shows the thought and engineering that went into creating these beauties. (10 out of 10) The Numbers Since receiving the irons on 8/28 I have had 12 range sessions. During those visits, the focus has been on the following: · Gaining familiarity with the irons. I have hit over a thousand balls with these irons between range sessions and the rounds played. I have a pretty good feel for these irons, and I know what they are capable of. During that time, I have reached the following conclusions. · The loft gap of 5.5° between the T150 8 iron and the T200 7 iron The averages shown below show my concerns over this being too big of a loft gap proved unfounded. However, as this is the blend point for this set, nowhere is it more apparent that what is gained (distance & forgiveness) in the T200 line, is done so at the expense of feel. The T150 irons are among the best feeling irons I have hit. Where as the T150 8 iron feels fantastic, the T200 7 iron feels muted by comparison. The chart below shows the performance of the 7 iron is there, but the feel isn’t the same. So much so, that I will be ordering a T150 7 iron to swap out with the T200. The 5 & 6 are clubs that I traditionally struggle with, so the loss of feel isn’t as jarring, in the interest of consistent performance. · The loft gap of 1° between the T200 5 iron and the T200 Utility 4 iron This is another area where the averages show that over the course of testing, my fitter Jim was correct in his recommendation. There were times during my range session when the difference didn’t feel as pronounced as the averages suggest. So I may be going back to my 21° Callaway 4 utility, as it goes a little bit further on average, but also gives me peace of mind, that the loft gap is 3° rather than 1°. · Dispersion patterns for all 7 irons. Dispersion for these irons from session to session and overall has been impressive. I can’t recall any balls that I hit that didn’t go where I was aiming. I tend to overcook the ball to the left when I overswing, but with these irons my misses were still in the area and direction I was aiming. Their reliability is like a security blanket on the course or a nice, warm hug from mom. · Carry yardage gaps between the 7 clubs. On average, the gaps were good. It is worth noting that over the course of testing each club more or less maintained the 5 mph ball speed gap that Titleist looks for during the fitting process. The Rapsodo MLM does a delightful job aggregating all of the data from the range sessions into easy to share graphics (Note: Distances shown in the graphics are carry distances) Pitching Wedge (44°) 9 Iron (40°) 8 Iron (36°) 7 Iron (30.5°) 6 Iron (27°) 5 Iron (24°) 4 Utility Iron (23°) In conclusion, I am very pleased overall with the irons. My personal feelings regarding the 7 iron and 4 utility have taken a couple points away from the score, but do not detract from my appreciation of these Titleist irons. (7 out of 10) On-Course Over the testing period I was able to get 6 rounds in. The first 2 came on Labor Day, when I decided 18 at Shaker Run Golf Club wasn’t enough and played a second 18 at Majestic Springs. That urge paid off in a major way, as I shot a Personal Best -2 69 on the Par 71 track. Shaker Run Golf Club 9-4-23 My favorite hole from this round was the Par 4 14th. An average drive left me about 135 yards out from the pin. A well struck PW put me to 20 feet. A lag put got me close and a 1 foot tap-in sealed the par. As this was the first round with the new sticks, there was a period of adjustment needed and the 6 bogeys on this round highlight that. Majestic Springs 9-4-23 Unfortunately, there is no shot scope data to share for this round. As it was the second of the day, the X5 didn’t have enough battery to make it through both. My favorite hole for this round was the Par 4 18th. I played a 5 wood off the tee that left me 132 yards to the pin. A 9 iron landed softly on the front of the green, leaving me a 45 foot put to a back pin. It broke left to right about 4 and ½ feet and rolled in center cup. That marvelous putt was for 69 and marked the first (and only thus far) time I have broken 70. What a special round of golf. Hickory Woods 9-10-23 My favorite hole from this round is the Par 3 13th. The layout of the 13th is unique in that the green is about 40 feet below the tee box. So the hole measures 143 but plays closer to 123. I hit the PW to 6 feet and calmly stroked in the birdie putt. Homestead Golf Course 9-13-23 While the birdies on 3 and 11 were nice, my favorite hole from this round was the Par 5 12th. It started with a drive that was straight but woefully short. That left me with a decision: I could lay up to the edge of the fairway for a decent look in or pull the 3 wood, then hit and hope. For once, self-control got the better of me and I grabbed my 48° gap wedge and proceeded to forward the ball by 100 yards, leaving me with a comfortable 7 iron into the green. The 7 iron I hit was high and majestic and one-hopped into the greenside bunker. From there, I grabbed my 58° lob wedge and went pin hunting. The ball finished 4 inches from the hole, for a tap-in par that felt so earned and rewarding. Majestic Springs Golf Course 9-24-23 The Par 3 17th was my favorite hole for this round. I hit a high draw with the 8 iron that landed pin high and finished 18 feet from the pin. I rolled the birdie putt on a good line that burned the left edge of the cup and left a 9 inch comebacker for par. Majestic Springs Golf Course 9 -28-23 The makeup of the bag for the irons only round. My favorite hole of this round was the Par 4 16th. A great drive by the hybrid off the tee left 90 yards to the pin. A ¾ PW finished 3 feet from the pin, that I converted into the rounds first birdie. Strokes Gained In my introduction, I included the graphic on the left as a benchmark of where my game stood at the onset of testing. As this test concludes, the graphic on the right is where things stand currently. While the credit for this improvement cannot solely be attributed to the Titleist irons, adding them to the bag sure as heck didn’t hurt. (18 out of 20) The Good, The Bad, The In-Between The Good: Performance, specifically how easy they are to hit and hit well. Consistency comes next. As evidenced throughout this testing period, my dispersion has been well within an acceptable range for my game. Although I could go on, I will stop with Confidence. These irons inspire confidence in my ball-striking and overall game. At any given distance, there is no hit and hope. If I am 155 yards out, I grab the 8 iron and execute. If I need to get one out in the center of the fairway off the tee, I grab the 4-utility iron and swing away. If I am staring at a 127-yard shot to a front pin location that is guarded by a false front and trouble, I hit the PW, knowing the ball is going to go where I need it to. These irons are confidence personified, period. The Bad: And now for the nits to be picked. Overall, I have little to nothing bad to say about these irons. My initial disappointment during this process is the lack of the shaft I wanted to try at the fitting, the fitter didn’t have the steelfiber shafts, so that has left me curious as to how that set-up would have differed. The In-Between: The mysterious nature of the Strokes Gained metric being used by Shot Scope. (18 out of 20) Play it or Trade It? PLAY IT!!!! As this set is currently constructed, I have seen scores that rightly justify their continued residence in my bag for the foreseeable future. To say that they will remain in their current configuration, would be tantamount to denying my tinker nature. My natural curiosity may see a change to Steelfiber shafts, and I will be swapping out the T200 7 iron for the T150 7 iron, but by and large there are no plans to swap these irons out with anything else. (19 out of 20) Conclusion These irons are as good as you can imagine them to be, their only limitations are that of the individual swinging them. They are built to perform with the singular purpose of allowing any given golfer to play their best. The ease with which these clubs blend across the product range is truly magnificent. If you are in the market for new irons and don’t schedule an appointment with a certified Titleist fitter, then you are doing yourself a grave injustice. Even if you have no intentions of buying them, the $100 for a fitting with a Titleist club fitter is a value for the experience alone. Want a small taste of what Tour pros feel like? Go get yourself a Titleist fitting! Final Score (92 out of 100)
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  18. McGolf Custom Clubs got named as a best fitter in America 2023 -2024 We are very happy and honored to receive the recognition. This is our 7th time for receiving the award.
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  19. It is no secret that L.A.B. Golf has taken off because of multiple wins on the PGA Tour and a greater professional presence overall. Its success in MyGolfSpy testing and the hype around the newly released L.A.B. DF3 has only increased its notoriety. What Is L.A.B.? L.A.B. stands for Lie Angle Balance. These putters, unlike other putters, are not toe-hang or face balanced. They are balanced to point at the target, meaning no twisting, no struggling to keep the face directed at the target—the putter does this naturally. As each golfer is unique in their putting stance and stroke, the fitting process for L.A.B. is crucial. L.A.B. has made this easy by way of their online submission. A simple step-by-step process is sent to L.A.B. and they use this video to dial in your specifications. L.A.B. is best known for their big and unique-looking DF 2.1, a putter that has many nicknames and certainly does not appeal to all golfers. This is where the DF3 comes in. Please welcome and congratulate our testers! @jbern @MattWillGolf @CFreddie @Cfhandyman @GolfSpy MPR @Steve F
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  20. Please welcome and congratulate all our testers! @Madden B @BMDubya @vman1964 @Blake Hopkins @ShimmyCocoBop @Bohnson @Randall Robbins @Jeff in the Mitten @Wicki @KenBender @TG8 @JChurch @David Staller @JRDuck40 @Indy_Oz @yungkory @MuniGolfer @Irish Assassin @"Mr. 72" @Mike10487 @climberboy2000 @tschott @JeremyD @2puttbogey @Erin B @Digiburdie @KevGolfnut61 @longdrivenate @Pingzingny @boylerz1 @TylerC31 @Push-ups For Bogeys @pantleggs @Duxman130 @gregh729 @Bob Jerabek @JC from SA @Thegolferdude @manderson831 @KenRider @Ryan Luke @Lvhawks3 @Hamhandsbill @Bangsuk @golfinnut @4theDogs @Desous17 Be on the look out for unboxing and intros coming soon! Let the testing begin!
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  21. Hello golfers, readers of all ages, I’m EMacK1961 and I have been selected as a tester for the TaylorMade Qi10 Standard Driver. I play out of a region just south of San Diego, in Ensenada, Mexico. The weather allows for golf year-round, unlike some parts of the spy network, that is currently under snow and ice. Most days are in the 60’s-70’s with on shore breezes to contend with. I currently am a member at Baja Country Club. I also play at the Bajamar Oceanfront and Golf Resort. I have been playing since the 80’s, when I was in the USArmy at Ft. Campbell, KY. I became more serious about the game in the 90’s as an escape from my bowling pursuit. I was a member of the PBA in the 90’s. I enjoyed rounds of golf to clear my head from the bowling life. The 2000’s were not kind to me from 1999-2014 I had 14 spinal surgeries. I have pieces of metal, plastic, and cord holding my spine together. It was after the last of the surgeries, that I allowed myself to seek out an instructor who I could work with. Bobby Lopez, PGA was the guy. He worked with what I brought and made a half decent swing out of it. Since 2020, I’ve had two more surgeries. My swing didn’t change much after that, thank goodness. With surgery behind me, I went to work on my body. I worked out, dropped almost 50lbs, became stronger, yet more flexible as well. Now my clubhead speed with a driver is over 100mph. I’m the kind of golfer that enjoys every round as if it could be his last. I appreciate a well done shot by myself or my playing partners and I acknowledge it. My scores hover around 90. Some higher and some lower. I need to work more on 125yds and in. I keep pulling to the left. I want to test this product on the range and on the course. I have a launch monitor I will use to show the differences between my current TaylorMade R15 and the new Qi10 Standard. I also have Shot Scope which will help track data with the new driver as well. Ultimately, the data will determine if it stays in the bag. I’m over the world excited about the testing of the new Qi10 Standard. I have never had any new technology at my disposal before. I’ve always bought used and several years old (at the time). I’m not one to go into a golf shop and look at the new equipment. A. I usually couldn’t afford it and B. I find it hard to decipher all the technospeak used with those new products. That’s why I rely on MyGolfSpy to help me make sense of it all. Over the years I’ve had a TaylorMade bias, I suppose. I’ve followed their products more closely than the other OEMs. The thing that jumps out at me, at the moment, is the word forgiveness. Yes, it has a carbon fiber crown, and it is the 3rd generation of the twist face technology (better results on off-center hits), but forgiveness…that’s what I’m looking for. I’m going into the testing not loving the driver. This is a relationship that has to be built. There will be a feeling out process in the beginning. I’ll take it to the range and set up the launch monitor and see what we get. I’ll take it on the course for a date, so to speak. Does the club perform the way I want it to? Does the club speak to me? Does the club work as advertised? My expectations…wow, that’s a good one. I expect that I will see a definite difference on the launch monitor and on the course. My dispersion should be less as my off-center hits wouldn’t be as penal with this new technology. As far as my specs for the driver, I chose the 10.5 degree and the Adila Rogue Silver 110 60 shaft for low launch and low spin. Final Review For this review, I want to do the Good, Bad, the Inbetween. First, the Good. The new TaylorMade Qi10 Standard is a quantum leap from what I had in my hands before, which was the TaylorMade R-15. The R-15 feels like a brick on a stick compared to the Qi10. I’m actually a couple of miles per hour faster with the Qi10. The 60xCarbon Twist Face has saved my bacon on more than one occasion. Where we play, the fairways are lined with olive trees for the most part. Once in there, it is like a one-stroke penalty. Off-center shots are generally guided back on line. Next up is the Bad. The Qi10 Standard would be a shade better if it came with an Open/Closed/Neutral adjustment for the face. I like the look of the more closed face when at address. Hey, I had to find something to gripe about. Now for the Inbetween. The Qi10 Standard is as basic as you can get as far as the head/hosel adjustments go. Nothing fancy. Just your basic Higher/Lower loft settings. I didn’t find that the Qi10’s adjustments made any difference on the flight except for the height. In my area where there is a fairly constant 10-15 mph wind, the Lower setting did produce a bit more penetrating ball flight. It didn’t make much difference, for me at least, on the left/right flight of the ball. For this section, I’d give the TaylorMade Qi10 an 18 out of 20. Play it or Trade it, I have to give the TaylorMade Qi10 Standard a strong Play it score of 20/20. For my tournament on April 7th, the Qi10 performed as expected. I didn’t get lost in the olive trees, stayed out of the rough, and played out of the fairway. I came in 4th (just out of the money). It wasn’t for the driver that happened. My up and down short game was in down mode. I made quite a few putts which saved me. But, I digress. You don’t want to hear about my tournament. You want to hear about the club. I believe that TaylorMade has made a huge leap forward with the technology in the Qi10 Standard over what I used before (TaylorMade R-15). The blend of distance and forgiveness is definitely there. The lightness of the materials makes for a faster club, at least for me. That lightness hasn’t sacrificed any strength, however. The use of the carbon fiber in the crown puts the weight of the club lower on the face where the power is generated. The Thru-Slot Speed Pocket on the bottom of the club helps if you hit it too low on the face. At $599.99, it is not inexpensive. If I walked into a fitting session and was led to this club, knowing what I do now, I’d take it out of the store with me. Who is this club for? Wow! That’s a question. I feel that the Qi10 Standard would benefit the golfer who hits the ball fairly on line at the moment but who also gets the occasional hit to the heel or to the toe. The Twist-Face technology will help the ball flight. I don’t think someone who sprays it all over would find what they are looking for here. All of the above has led me to want to put the Qi10 into use on a daily basis. All of the tech features built into this club renders it worthy of the TaylorMade moniker. To me, TaylorMade has always created the best in drivers. I’ve had a TaylorMade driver in my bag like forever. The verbiage in the TaylorMade literature about the TaylorMade Qi10 Standard talks about the MOI, lower CG projection, 60xTwist-Face, Carbon Crown, and the Thru-Slot Speed Pocket. To me, that is lost. What matters is the performance. My off-center shots are not as penal. The ball is not far offline. I haven’t lost any distance in the process. I don’t always hit it on the button, but this club forgives that. What’s not to love? This club performs. Pure and simple. If you have a driver that is a few years old, do yourself a favor and give this club a look. Book some time at your fitter of choice and give it a go. My overall review of the TaylorMade Qi10 Standard is that this is one badassed club. It rates an overall score of 98/100.
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  22. Although this post/thread is more on a personal note it does in a sense apply to all of the Forum Staff. Today marks the 1 year mark since being named as the Forum Directory. A position I am extremely proud to be in and am so grateful to have been put in charge to help lead this community. However this could not have been done alone, we have an amazing staff that work so hard in the background and in truth do more than I think anyone could imagine to keep the community moving forward, bringing new ideas and helping with all the other forum stuff. There had been a good amount of turnover within the forum staff and having the stability of this group has made a world of a difference. So before I go forward I want to thank them. @GolfSpy BOS - you were the first new hire since I came on as a Mod and have taken on so many things and been an incredible addition to our leadership group. Thank you for stepping up and helping drive this community forward. @GolfSpy TCB - Thank you for bringing all your ideas to the table and being a fresh voice within our group. It is always appreciated and required. The MGSVCT is a clear hit and has added so much to the forum. It has been a pleasure to see it take off in the sense that it has. @GolfSpy SAM - The life of the party? Your humor, participation and activity as well as helping lead the community calls has been so much fun and a huge additive to the forum. @GolfSpy_BNG - The classifieds section, fantasy sports and a lot more. You bring a ton to the forum which many may not realize at first. You have been a fantastic addition to the forum and we are all truly appreciative of the work and efforts you put forth. @Golfspy_CG2 - As much as you try to retire or step back, you are always here and getting sucked back it. Not sure we have enough words to type to thank you for the efforts you put forth. You have so many insights and history on the forum that this place would truly not be the same without you. There is no question the forum went through a downturn for a while there. However we got very fortunate as a new COO was named for MGS and he has (not at all that others at HQ havent been) allowed us to really take the forum in a way we saw best fit. In our first meeting with him he said something that has stuck with me. He said he didnt care about what happened in the past or what had been done right or wrong prior, but wanted us to move forward with fresh light and not look back. We have taken this heart and worked to drive all areas on the forum. Some of these areas are - Member Testing - a record number of tests this season, a record number of participants and reviews being posted! - MGSVCT - What a cool addition to the forum. Special events, weekly championships and a whole lot more! We do also secretly hope we can find a way that members can achieve official handicaps through our VCT, however that could still be a ways down the road. Oh and Bag Tags! - Classifieds - New system, cleaner look, better method for searching and more. Still working on it taking off, but we are very happy with this platform. - Group Buys - So far just the Jones bag, but we may have something else coming your way. - Community Calls - One of my favourites and something I am so happy we started. - Course Reviews - Another which hasnt taken off, but happy to so all the new reviews there! - Newsletter Updates and Upgrades - Get Forum Content every weekday and has definitely helped drive more users to the forum. - Forum Content on the main site! - This one I am just thrilled about. Period. - Forum Socials - This we have actually handed over to HQ to handle and we hope that it will take big steps forward as we move forward. And more. This last year truthfully on the forum has been one of the busiest years period. Participation is up, activity and engagement levels are way up and we have seen so many new members on the forum that simply makes me smile. This year has also been, in truth, so so much work and I am so happy for it! The amount of nights I have been up till 1am or later doing work whether front end or back end has been countless, but when we see the excitement for membership and the shock when we release tests or just the overall growth of community it all makes it worth while. As much as this is really a job and work, it really isnt. For me I am proud of what we as a community have done this past year and how we have banded together to bring the forum from where it was a year ago to where we are today. This has not been a solo effort and not even just a staff effort, however the whole community. So a big shout out to all of you who have stuck with us and provided feedback or taken part in anything on the forum. We have this community because of you. I am so happy to celebrate 1 year as the lead on the forum and am so excited continue in this role driving the forum forward and ensuring that we continue to stay true to our roots of being a community. I could go on a lot longer, and may in future responses in this thread, but just a big thank you to HQ for putting me in this position, to the membership for sticking by us and the staff for contributing how you have and supporting me over this last year. One year down and a whole lot more to come!
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  23. Introduction Firstly, thank you MyGolfSpy and Ping for this amazing opportunity to test these wedges and use their Webfit Wedge app, to get the correct fit to suit our game. Hi Spies, my name is Leon vd Westhuizen and I play off an 18 handicap in and around Durbanville, Western Cape, South Africa, a small country at the bottom of Africa with about 60 million people but with a huge golf following. Our country has gifted the world the likes of Gary Player, Ernie Els, Charl Schwartzel, Louis Oosthuizen to name a few, so we have a rich history of producing great golfers, but I am not one of them! (these are not Gary, Arnold or Jack) As a youngster, I grew up watching Gary, Arnold, and Jack battle it out at the Masters and I wanted to be like them. So, I started playing golf occasionally, while still at school, but I loved rugby more, so I never focused on it. Forward many years later, and I have a wife & son, but I still love golf, cycling and rugby (Our national team, The Springboks, are the 4x World Rugby Champions you know!) But enough about me, this is about the opportunity to test these beauties from Ping, the brand-new Ping S159 wedges in Midnight Black for me. Just a disclaimer, I’m a virgin Ping player... I have never owned and played any club from Ping. Yes, I have taken their driver at the golf shop for a few hits on the trackman, but that is it, not a single club on the course, so this will be my first time in the world of Ping My Rationale We get so exhilarated when we watch DJ, Rory or Rahmbo hit their wedge just inches from the hole, but what about us mere mortals who hit our wedges, on the green, sometimes missing the green, and sometimes fat or thin. I am one of those guys who normally hit my wedge and be happy to get the ball to stay on the green, very lucky when it is anything closer to the hole for a decent chance at birdie, par, or bogey. I am one of those guys, who used to hit my wedges thin or fat. I am one of the guys who had to get creative with my hybrid, 9 & 7 iron, cause my wedges would scare the heck out of me! But I am not that guy anymore! I have more confidence with my wedges, I don’t use my hybrid around the green anymore, I can play a shot onto the green and the ball would check and stop rolling... I have gained a lot of confidence with my wedge game, so I will use my new found skill and confidence and apply it to my testing. Pings’s Webfit Wedge App With the launch of the S159 wedges, Ping also launched their Webfit Wedge app (btw, you can also do a Webfit for all your clubs). This app makes the daunting task of choosing a wedge really easy, as they take the fundamentals of your game, through an easy questionnaire, into consideration and give you the best suggestion to have as little gaps in your game as possible, because that’s how we will improve our short game! Check my results out: Ping suggested I take the S grind on all the wedges, which will help me with enhancing versatility around the green, or just calming my nerves! My Gameplan My game plan is to compare the Ping S159 to my current gamers, the Cleveland RTX Zipcore, which has been instrumental to calm my nerves and my hands. I will play my local, 18-hole par 3 course, Hazendal, twice a week for a month, so I can get used to the Pings and thoroughly test these wedges and see if I can make small incremental improvements or hoping they will be big strides of improvements. Then I want to apply those short game improvements, to the longer courses every weekend, and see how they translate to the everyday golfer and the mid to high handicapper. I have also booked a session at the The Pro Shop (our big national golf retailer offering fittings using track data), to see what my details are, like spin rate, launch angles, bounce control, all while playing my trusty Taylormade Soft response or Callaway Supersoft ball. Thank you for coming on this journey with me! Ping S159 - Final Review First Impressions (Score 17/20) Let’s first look at the name, Ping S159, Why did Ping choose that name? Ping decided to go with S159 as a homage to Solheim Karsten’s release of their first club in ‘59 and the 1 stands for their 1st version, So S159. With the new S159’s Ping brought 6x grinds to market (2 of them brand new). But “What exactly are grinds, I hear you ask. Let me help.. The different grinds are Ping’s answers to the way in which we interact with the ground when we make our downstroke and hit the ground. Each player has a different swing & swing path, so the clubhead will interact with the turf differently, (think of the bottom part of the wedge that touches the ground first) that’s why we need 6x types of grinds to choose from. Each clubhead’s face has maximized the area with grooves to provide enough control on shots and have more tightly spaced MicroMax grooves for more spin. Ping S159 grooves My Ping S159’s took a bit of time to reach me at the Southern-most-tip-of Africa, but the hype was real and the expectation was building each day. When the box from Ping was finally delivered, I was too excited to stay at work, and left the office early to come and unbox the S159 Midnight Black beauties that were just delivered. Ping did not disappoint with the design, and I was ecstatic with my choice to go for the darker shade. I was a bit concerned with how they would hold up and how quickly I would see some signs of wear on the clubface, but that was a worry for another day. Ping S159 wedges together My biggest let down was the box the wedges came in. The clubs were each wearing a thin soft cover to prevent any dings, but that was basically it. There was no bubble wrap, no box fillers, so they were just bouncing and hitting on another inside the box during transportation, ouch. From a premium OEM manufacturer, they could have done better, and that is the reason I deducted 3 points. Aesthetics (Score 10/10) As you can tell, I am just totally in awe of the Midnight Black design, so it comes as no surprise that I will give them full marks for the looks which is very understated, but very premium looking. The S-Grind (my choice according to their Webfit app) features a classic type teardrop shape and is Ping’s most versatile option. It also has 8x different gaps all the way from 46deg to 60deg. Other manufacturer’s wedges look similar in their shape design, but these ones stand out due to their minimalist look, and yes, my friends quickly noticed them in my bag! How do they sound? They do sound a bit hard, but not off-putting enough for me to take away any points. Any shot not hit from the sweet spot sounds a bit clicky, but even then, the results are just phenomenal, no loss of spin, so for me they deserve the full marks I gave them! As a disclaimer, I was concerned with how long the face will stay unblemished, but I can attest that after 6 rounds of golf (3x rounds of 18-hole par 3 and 3x rounds of full 18 holes), I am only now starting to see some wear on one of the clubs. I only wiped the faces clean after each shot and didn’t wash them in-between rounds to give them the full treatment and inspect how they were holding up after I concluded my tests. In my books, they are holding up really well, what do you think? The Numbers (Score 10/10) I booked a 2-hour session with a fitter and although I felt time flew by too quickly, the biggest learning I made was that these wedges spin a heck of a lot more than my Clevelands! Starting out with the session I learned I am a wristy player, taking spin off the ball, so I had to make an adjustment to stop me from doing that. This small change got me to double the spin rate of my shots. I went from a 5000rpm guy to an almost 10 000rpm guy. I also learned why Ping has some indicators on their very long grips. It helps to grip down and take distance off your shot, when you need to take a full swing, but needs to shorten the shot by 7 – 15 yards, depending which wedge you use. To conclude the fitting session, the fitter was even impressed with how accurate the Ping Webfit app fitted me with the wedges, as even he would fit me with exactly those wedges. The only difference is that he would bend the 50deg wedge, but that is to make up for my steep swing, so no fault on Ping and thus I give them full marks. On the Course (Score 20/20) I started out playing my favorite 18 hole par 3 course, Hazendal Golf course and I immediately saw a difference between the Pings and my Clevelands. They grabbed more and spin more, even on any miss hits or toe hits, very impressive. Pics are only for comparison purposes. Cleveland face Ping face I played them side by side and almost 90% of the shots from the Pings would stay on the green where 40% of the shot from the Clevelands would stay on the green, they are that good! Yes, I would still get more roll than I want, but hey, I’m not a single handicapper ... yet! Then came my best round of golf in the last 15 years. I played on Devonvale GC, Stellenbosch and shot a round of 87, and I kid you not, the Pings were the stars of the show! I played my wedges and they were on the green every time. My playing partners were almost happier than I was. I normally shoot around 92 – 95 shots on a round of full 18 holes, but the Pings shaved 8 shots off my scorecard! I have no choice than to award them full marks for On-Course performance! The Good, The Bad, The In-between (Score 19/20) My premise was to compare the Ping S159’s to my then gamers, Cleveland RTX Zipcore. The 2 x biggest differences I could pick up immediately was that my Clevelands were quite a bit heavier than the Ping, and the much narrower MicroMax groove lines on the Ping than the groove lines on the Clevelands. The weight interested me so much so that I asked my fitter what the reason was, and apparently Ping fit their wedges with the lightest shafts they can, so they make it easier and more controllable for an everyday golfer playing their wedges. This really did work for me, so kudos for Ping! The groove lines are the only drawback for me, on which I will deduct a point. The reason for the deduction is that sand granules tend to stick inside the grooves, so do make sure you wipe them well after using them in the bunkers or out of sandy patches. Other than that, I have very little negative comments about the Ping wedges. Play it or Trade it? (Score 20/20) I have already taken my Clevelands out of my bag and replaced them with the Ping S159’s. The choice is extremely easy, play them, DO NOT TRADE THEM! They spin more, they invoke so much confidence, I almost get upset if the ball stops dead and doesn’t spin back. Ping caters for every type of golfer and with the technology they’ve used to manufacture the S159’s, this should be a huge consideration for each golfer looking at wedges. I wasn’t prepared for how happy I became with these wedges, I knew other OEM manufacturers make good wedges and I have never considered Ping as a wedge company, but these are just pure gold, I am converted! Conclusion In conclusion, The Ping S159’s give every golfer more spin, and much more confidence to play those difficult, around-the-green, shots and those full wedge shots that need to stay on the green. This gives us a chance to convert to birdies or pars and shave shots off our scorecards. If you want to shave shots off your scorecard, go and get the Ping S159’s, they ARE that good! Final Score 96 out of 100 points Thank you to MyGolfSpy and Ping for making this possible and choosing someone from South Africa. And thank you to my fellow testers @bens197, @johngschulz, @aguybadatgolf for all the kind words, the camaraderie and help along this amazing journey!
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  24. Please welcome and congratulate our testers for the following Shot Scope and Bridgestone collab test! Looking forward to seeing everyones results! @Johnsonk9 @C-Lau76 @barney19 @Freshbrockoli @deattle @Bubba1985 @Kbek @unccross @Steven Senft @Preeway @LinksgolfFever @Sixft9 @Everardo @NickyBobby @mdleedy2 @Golf2Much @PhilM75072 @Gopokes14 @Timberwolfmadcat @MIgregb @nupezb @tony@CIC @rarce_torres @fozcycle @WalkerH @acatalano32 @THE GOLF GUY @golfjunky79 @MajorCavalry Happy testing all! This Thread will hold the Bridgestone sampling members (all those who answered the video questions correctly last time around) as well as the Shot Scope test. You are all one big family now!
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  25. Runner Golf Putter INTRODUCTION Firstly I would just like to thank MGS, the Forum mods and of course Runner Golf for giving me this opportunity and entrusting me with such a fantastic opportunity. I appreciate how lucky I am to be selected for this and I hope to be able to provide a balanced, informative review for all those that showed interest in this opportunity PLAYER PROFILE So a bit about me. I’m Mick, 52, married to my long suffering wife Michelle (God knows how she puts up with me) for the last 14 years and currently live on the edge of SE London, England. I’m originally from the NE of England but moved down here to the “Big Smoke” 18 years ago when I met my wife. Hence how I got my nickname, Northern Monkey. I’ve been a police officer for 28 years and the last 17 years have been on Traffic, or Highway Patrol as those over the pond call it. As a result I’m an advanced police TPAC (Tactical Pursuit and Containment) driver and motorcyclist. Which means lots of driving and riding at high speed on fast bikes and cars, chasing bad guys and getting paid for it. Who said you needed to work for a living? It can have its downsides and one of these was getting wiped out on a police motorcycle which resulted in numerous breaks in my left hand and wrist, in 2007. 18 months, and four operations, later I have been left with limited movement in my left hand including no movement in my ring finger and partial movement of only one joint in my little finger. This meant 10 years away from golf, due to not being able to grip a club, but I managed to start playing again properly around 4 years ago following a lot of physio. This also helped me get back on a bike and I’m back riding police motorcycles operationally again, and just as fast as I ever was I started golfing in my early teens when my dad used to take me to our local pitch and putt and loved it. This progressed to moving on to our local municipal 18 hole course. It wasn’t that regular due to him working in Africa for 8 weeks out of every 10 but I did keep an interest in the game even if I wasn’t playing that often. Fast forward to me starting a new job with Rothmans ( Tobacco manufacturer) at 20 and there was an active golf society there which I quickly became involved in and started playing regularly. This continued through my police service, where there was also active societies, until the motorbike accident. Although at this point I had never been a member at a golf club I was still playing pretty much every week and had got my society handicap down to 12. Following the bike accident I really missed my golf, and motorbikes, and for a long time there were doubts as to whether I would ever play again. However, thanks to a great surgeon and the fabulous NHS, I was able to lightly grip a club again in late 2015. About 18 months of work at the range, managing to adapt what little grip I have left in my left hand, meant I was able to get back into golf regularly although now with a tendency to play with an aggressive fade, or slice as some prefer to call it. 80910f9c-82cd-4c42-a065-fa0b790f315b.mp4 When I started out I inherited my dads old clubs which were a set of Titleist blades, Wilson woods - which were wood in those days, and a Ping Anser putter. I continued with these for many years before moving on to a Taylormade R5 driver, an ancient Persimmon wood and a set of Ping Zing 2 irons and stuck with my trusty Ping Anser. I changed the Ping irons out for a set of King Cobra cavity back irons and gamed these up until my bike accident in 2013. When I started again I bought a Taylormade RBZ Driver and 3 Wood, a set of Taylormade burner irons and some Mizuno wedges, all second hand from eBay. The reason for this was I didn’t know at that point how well I was going to be able to play again so didn’t want to spend a great deal. Once I realised I was going to be able to stick with it I then bought a Callaway Mavrik driver, 3 wood, 3 hybrid and 4-AW irons with Jaws MD5 wedges and an Odyssey 2 ball ten putter which I still use now. Although I must admit I am looking at changing out the driver for a Ping G430 Max. I also joined my local club, Sidcup, and now play there regularly as well as playing a variety of courses through the society. This includes a yearly trip, away which this year is to Portugal, and we have previously played Celtic Manor so I get to play some really nice courses too. I’ve now managed get my handicap down to 15.9 and am hoping to get it down even further this year. My putting is something I want to, and need to, work on which is why I applied for this test so to be selected was awesome for me and I can’t tell you how excited I am for it. I’m really looking forward to receiving the putter and to see if it looks as good as it does in the pics. I intend to get out as much as possible playing full rounds as well as using the practice green for testing. I’m hoping to improve my putting through this test and become more consistent. Some days I seem to putt well and the next I couldn’t hit a barn door from 5 yards but that’s the beauty of the game isn’t it. If we were all consistent we would be golfing for a living! I intend to compare the Runner to my Odyssey 2 ball ten and see how they fare against each other. I also use ShotScope X5 so will be able to track my putting and give accurate feedback. Feel free to ask anything about the Runner, or anything in particular you’d like me to try and incorporate into the testing, and hopefully I’ll be able to give you an interesting and relevant testing of this gorgeous looking putter. Thanks UNBOXING The Runner Golf putter arrived this morning and it took all my willpower not to dive right in and rip it open. Thankfully I managed to restrain myself (God knows how) and left it sealed in the box until I could take it to a more suitable unboxing location. On opening the box the putter was well wrapped and protected in bubble wrap with a foam insert around the head Once the bubble wrap was removed I found the putter was seal wrapped in another polythene bag Once this was removed the shaft had another polythene sleeve over it and the head was protected by the headcover I removed the sleeve, thinking that would be it, but on removing the head cover I found that the head was shrink-wrapped in another polythene coat I think it's fair to say that Runner went above and beyond to ensure the putter arrives in perfect condition. Also in the box was a wrench for the putter that had a carabiner attached so it can be clipped to your bag.to I thought this was a nice little touch and just gave that extra feeling of it being a quality product. INITIAL IMPRESSIONS: 20/20 My first impression having unboxed the putter was that it looked like a quality product. The extensive packaging and protection reinforced this as well as the earlier mentioned carabiner on the wrench. The head cover is a really nice looking, and feeling, item. It feels quite substantial and well made with quality stitching, strong magnets for closure and a very plush velvet type lining. It is certainly the plushest head cover I've come across so far and definitely gives the impression that the head will be well protected by it. There's also no mistaking where Runner are based I really like the look of this putter, it looks very futuristic to me and is oh so shiny!!!!! I love the contrasts between the silver, black and red and to look at it truly is a thing of beauty, especially with the added bonus of the MGS logo The precision milled 6061 aluminium face is very appealing and having hit a couple of balls I can say it gives good feedback. There is a distinct sound difference when you hit it on the sweet spot, with a nice reassuring "thunk". Hit it off the toe or heel and it produces a higher pitched "tink". Having previously used an Odyssey 2 ball Ten with a white hot insert this is my first milled putter. Straight away I could feel that it doesn't need as much of a backswing to get the ball going and has a firmer feel to it. Having said that after a few balls I really appreciated the difference and think this could be something that really gels with me, although it is very early days yet. The alignment aid on the putter really stands out to me as it is like a small fin so gives you a 3D perspective. I found it very easy to use and it was effective. There was a choice of grips available and I went with the Garsen Quad Tour. This has been reviewed previously on MGS so I'm not going into detail on it. Short to say I like the feel of it and it suits my grip. The innovation on the Runner is the moveable weights on the rear These can be adjusted to suit your stroke and move the sweet spot. I intend to try different setting for these during the testing to see what effect they have. They do stand out, mainly due to the contrasting red colour, but again this is something that I like the look of on this putter. The putter feels beautifully balanced and on your putting stroke it just feels like it wants to stay straight and true. It certainly gave me confidence when striking the ball that it was going where I aimed In short my initial impressions are that this is a quality, well made putter that looks fantastic. It feels, and looks, like a high end marque item and just oozes class. As an initial comparison to my Odyssey, which I really like by the way, I would say its like comparing a Bentley to a Ford. The Runner just looks and feels like you're dealing with a class item I'm really looking forward to getting into the testing with this and hoping that the performance matches the looks and build quality FINAL REVIEW Aesthetics 10/10 This is a gorgeous looking putter and I love the colours used on it. The black accents and shaft go really well with the silver of the aluminium and the red weights, alignment aid and grip complement them very well. The added addition of the MGS logo on the base just increases the visual appeal for me. It looks very futuristic and certainly stands out on the course. I’ve had several comments about it so it certainly gets noticed. The head is larger than the average putter but I think this suits it and other golfers have said it reminds them of a spaceship. The head cover is very plush and made with lovely soft leather (or what appears to be leather), fits nice and snugly and the magnets are strong. It also looks good with the same colour theme used as the putter. The whole look of the putter and head cover just screams quality. The sound from the sweet spot is reassuring with a nice smooth, almost understated, “thunk” from it. You can also feel the difference, centre strikes are very smooth and you know you’ve hit it well. Off centre strikes are easily heard with a more high pitched “tink” that is quite distinctive. There is also a noticeable feel difference with a slight vibration felt, but not in a bad way, just enough so that it’s recognisable. It is a lot faster off the face than my Odyssey 2 ball ten and takes less of a backstroke to achieve the same distance. This is my first experience of a milled face putter and the sound and feel is very different to an insert. Not in a bad way, just different. It did however take a little bit of getting used to but I have to say that I now actually prefer it. You know straight away when you haven’t hit the ball sweetly but when you do it feels ethereal, and the ball seems to float off the face. It’s hard to describe to be honest. You know you’ve hit the ball but it almost feels like you haven’t, if that makes sense. The 3D alignment aid is prominent and I found that it was much easier to line up putts using this than the traditional 2D alignment aids. The Numbers 10/10 Accuracy – I have to say that the Runner is awesome in this respect. It goes exactly where you aim and is unbelievably consistent. Even with off centre hits it still holds its line but does lose a little bit of distance. Within 3 feet of the hole the 3D alignment aid makes it very easy to line up your putts and sink the ball and I am now sinking virtually all of my putts within 3 feet. All the misses I have had with it have been down to user error rather than any fault of the Runner. When I used it to create the videos that demonstrate how the weights affect the putter I sank 5/5 putts with them set to give the most forgiveness and 4/5 with them set close to the centre in “pro” setting. Although the one that missed lipped out. These were all from 6 feet. Distance Control – Once I adjusted to the difference in speed off the face I found the Runner to be outstanding. I was able to get the majority of my lag putts within a couple of feet of the hole and as a result my 3 putting holes have reduced significantly. I’ve found that it is very intuitive to judge distances and extremely consistent. This was just one of many distance putts that ended up close Stability of Stroke – My natural stroke is a slight out to in arc so I have a habit of missing left. The Runner though just doesn’t want to deviate from its line and has a true straight through stroke and is incredibly stable. As a result I’ve found that I’m missing left less and my putts are running true. The weights on the back of the head assisted with this but the more I have used the Runner, and adapted to its natural inclination for the head to stay on a straight line, the more I have found that my stroke no longer has much, if any, of an arc through the ball. It does actually take an effort to make the head deviate from a straight through and through line at strike. I have therefore moved the weights to a central position and this works well for me. I think this is assisted with the weight of the putter which is quite heavy, as per my preference, and gives it a pendulum like effect. The weights on the back of the putter can be changed for different sets, depending on your preference, so you would be able to set it up for your preferred weight. Forgiveness - The Runner has great forgiveness. You’re very aware that you haven’t hit it centre faced, from the distinct sound difference and the feedback through the feel. I deliberately hit it off the toe and heel and found that the ball still held the intended line but just lost a little distance. You can easily tell when you haven’t hit it sweet as there is noticeable feedback through the feel of the strike, with more vibration felt, as well as an audible difference with a higher pitched sound. The Runner has quite a noticeable sized head and as a result it is not that easy to hit the ball from the extreme toe or the heel, which is no bad thing, but you can still miss the sweet spot. Playability – It performed well no matter where you were hitting the ball from whether that be up and down slopes, across slopes or from the fringe. The ball comes off the face beautifully every time. I have had no jumping or bobbles as it left the face and the ball rolls off the face smoothly every time. It does come off the face quicker than I was used to and have found myself using less of a backswing but I feel this has made my strike more consistent. As a result I have now found myself using the putter much more from distance off the green as a Texas wedge rather than a bump and run with an iron. I couldn’t find any reason to deduct any points at all here On Course 20/20 Most of my use of the Runner has been on the course. I have had a few sessions on the practice green but the majority has been gaming it. On the course this thing is amazing and my confidence with the putter has rocketed. It is so confidence inspiring and I don’t have to worry about not striking the centre of the face with this. I compared the Runner to my Odyssey 2 ball ten using my stats from ShotScope. This was a reasonable comparison as it uses 495 shots with the Odyssey and 502 with the Runner. So far this year the Odyssey had a strokes gained figure of 1.02 and made 90% of putts inside 6 foot. I averaged 34 holes per 3 putt and averaged 66 ft distance putts made. My make % are as follows The Runner figures are 502 putts with a strokes gained figure of 2.95 and made 96% of putts inside 6 foot. I’m averaging 52.5 holes per 3 putt and average 78 ft distance putts made. My make % are as follows I also found that my lag putting improved with the Runner and it was much easier to get the ball near to the hole with long putts. Judging distances just seemed easy with this. The figures say it all really. I have gained nearly 2 more strokes with the Runner than the Odyssey and I am making 6% more putts within 6 ft. The reduction in 3 putts has also been significant and it is very hard to argue against those sort of results The Good, the Bad, the In-between 15/20 The Bad: I’m going to start with the bad as so far everything has been positive. There are three negatives so far with the Runner and all of these have been cosmetic and not affected the performance in anyway. However they are still negative and at least 2 of them could have been avoided in my opinion. The first issue is with the head cover. Now despite this being a very plush and good looking head cover I have noticed that part of the stitching is coming away/fraying on the logo. This is not something I would expect of a high quality item over this short period of time and something that should not have happened. As such I have deducted 2 points. The second issue is with the shaft. Now I know this is a KBS shaft so not directly attributable to Runner but it was their choice to use it. I previously used a Motocaddy bag which has a dedicated putter well with a plastic rim on it. Where the Runner has been sitting in the putter well the matte black coating on the shaft has worn away leaving a visible mark. Once again this is not something I would have expected and could have been avoided if the shaft had been treated with a coat of lacquer. This is something Runner could consider moving forward. I have deducted 2 points for this. The final issue is with the milled face. I appreciate that this is partly due to me for not cleaning the ball/face, and could have been avoided, but the aluminium face has marked after I putted on greens that had recently been treated and sanded. This has not affected the performance in any way and the marks are only very minor but they are still there nonetheless. I appreciate that aluminium is a soft metal and is more prone to marking but regardless of this I have deducted 1 point The Good: The majority of things with this putter are better than good! It has really improved my game. The accuracy, the feel, the balance, the distance control, the alignment aid, the grip, the weight, the look of it, the confidence it instils, the fact that the head does not want to deviate from a straight line, it is just really good. The Inbetween: The only point for me here is the price. This club retails at just under £400, just under $500, which looks a lot for a putter. However, I feel it is definitely worth it. We would quite happily spend that on a driver yet this club is likely to gain us more strokes than a driver so why wouldn’t you pay it? Play It or Trade It 20/20 No surprise here – PLAY IT! This club has improved my scores, raised my confidence and is going nowhere. The weight system on the back works as described and will assist with those missed putts. Not only that but virtually every part of the head is changeable, face in 3 degree, 4 degree or curved, weights 12g, 18g, 24g, 30g, back shape – mallet, blade or original and colour. In short you can set these putters up to whatever you want regardless of what preferences you have. Conclusion This is a fantastic putter which can be customised to suit whatever style you prefer. It looks absolutely fantastic and is a quality piece of kit that is well made. It sends the ball exactly where you aim and it always leaves the face smoothly. It is forgiving, with mishits still staying online and only losing a little distance. It has improved my strokes gained significantly and I am sinking 10% more putts within 6 foot. The distance control is outstanding and this has reduced my 3 putts from one every 34 holes to one every 52.5 holes. I would highly recommend you look at Runner if you are in the market for a new flatstick as this one will be staying in my bag for some time to come! Final Score 95/100
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  26. Well all time to give you a little run down and all things forum and where we are at as well as where we hope to get to this season. I will kick off with Member Testing - as you have likely seen it is in full swing and we have a good schedule built out and in place already. We will be adding a lot to it over the course of the season and still have on going discussions with several companies. It will be a great season for member testing and one we are very excited to have everyone take part in! Remember to read the guide on how to be a tester. We will not just pick ppl to pick ppl. All must be qualified and active contributors to be chosen. The forum so far in January has seen one its best months ever. Period. Post counts are fantastic and overall activity levels with members and the eyes on the forum has been fantastic. With the new changes to googles SEO system we are seeing a nice boost in traffic and we hope that will translate to more great new members and more people joining the forum and getting involved. The Forum staff are going to look to continue to bring you a variety of new features, new activities and threads to participate in and enjoy. With the new push on socials watch out for a few give aways from time to time and be sure to follow! I have already mentioned forum staff articles, but keep an eye on the main site for Matt, Jason, Bryan, Ben, Hayes and Marks articles as they will start dropping tomorrow! We are continuing to adjust the ad load and tweak that configuration, however the platform we run on (Invision) has a massive update coming which will change a lot. We will not be updating right away as we sort out any bugs and potential short comings of the new system. In addition to the new features it will be adding all of our custom features (VCT, Member testing sign up and more) will all need to be updated prior. However this will bring a fresh look to the forum which we hope makes it look a bit cleaner and just more modern. Stay tuned as we provide updates to when these changes will happen! The Forum staff have lofty goals and expectations for the 2024 year. 2023 was great, it was a bench mark season for us and one that we haven't seen in a while. With all time highs in several categories. We want 2024 to take another jump, however we are also very aware of our identity and not losing that sense of community. We may be a smaller ish forum, but we still want to grow and keep our core values at the heart of that growth. We want to see our socials grow, our content on the main site and forum expand. We want to continue to bring excellent member testing to our community with stellar reviews. Additionally we want to grow the outings to be able to host and hold more than one per season in many areas all over the US and hopefully one day over in Europe. There are so many things going on behind the scenes with the staff its truly a great time to be a member and with the growing community we can only hope to bring you more of a little bit of everything. So what can you do to help? Tell your friends and golfing peeps about us! Get them to sign up, get involved and make them aware of this awesome community. We don't have a referral program, but if you have friends or colleagues that are curious or nervous, a little nudge goes a long way. Share or follow us on socials! This is a great way for us to get the word out about the forum and a fantastic way to help the hard work on the socials pay off. Keep being involved! Posts, activity and new threads all help us get more visibility on google and other platforms. Bottom line thank you for everyone making the start of 2024 near record breaking and come the new month I will post some more data for those who are interested in diving into that side of things!
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  27. Hello All, This is my 2000th post. I tried to time it up, to hit on March 27th. The 1 year anniversary of my stumbling into what has become a rather integral part of my life. However, because there are so many great things going on the forum, and I gotta get these posts off, I am a week early. Such is life. A look back at the past year reveals quite the journey so here are a few highlights: The Callaway Paradym Iron testing opportunity is what prompted me to join. I signed up and impatiently waited for the announcement. The tester’s were announced and to my dismay, I wasn’t one of them. What happened next is/was critical to my journey. I read @GolfSpy_APH’s how to be a tester thread. Which prompted me to take the initial steps with a completed profile and photo where the B had been. My first actual post came on April 13, 2023 7 people gave a blue heart, which was gratifying, so my initial trepidation about posting was overcome and we were off. My next pivotal moment, and what I would argue is my finest contribution to these here forums would come from a fundamental question I asked myself: Over the course of 2000 posts, this was and still is my absolute favorite. Because I followed the prescribed steps and got myself involved I was chosen to test the Garsen Max Putter Grip. Which was cool, because Garsen sent us three different putter grips to try out. That resulted in: Subsequently followed by: I’m fairly certain this review remains unread by the masses, for reasons I have explained on the community call, IYKYK (yes, it’s still there). We have mentioned in the “want to be a tester” threads that doing a great job on a small item review can be a springboard into bigger tests, I am proof of that as I was selected for one of the most coveted spots for 2023: It was around this time that @GolfSpy_APH put out a feeler for anyone interested in joining the staff. Along with @GolfSpy AFG, @GolfSpy_SHARK, & @GolfSpy_KFT, I joined the staff as a forum leader. Which prompted @GolfSpy AFG to rename us as the “interns”. Almost immediately @GolfSpy TCB had to step away from the forum and I inherited a moderator role and the VCT. For those who are interested: And if you haven’t joined us yet, but would like to, our 3rd season will be kicking off the week of April 8th. We would be honored to have you join us. Lastly, my latest endeavor: Follow along as I try to overcome a series of seemingly random and unfortunate events. As I look back on the past year, I am filled with gratitude and admiration for my fellow testers and the membership at large. You have all made this place a special corner of the interwebs, where civility, intellectual curiosity, and kindness rule the day. A special thanks goes out my fellow staff members: @GolfSpy BOS, @GolfSpy SAM, @GolfSpy_BNG, @Golfspy_CG2, @GolfSpy AFG, @GolfSpy_SHARK, & @GolfSpy_KFT you guys are the absolute best of us and I’m proud to call each of you, my friend. To @GolfSpy_APH, my sincere gratitude and admiration for not only the opportunity you have entrusted me with, but the ever steady hand with which you guide this ship. It has truly been one of the great pleasures of my life, finding this place. Finally, if you made it this far, thank you for indulging my vanity post and know that you have a friend in me. - Ben
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  28. The Forum Community has benefited recently a stable group of dedicated staff members. We have seen significant growth, activity and participation across all areas of the forum. With this meant we need some extra help to manage the forum and aid in the various day to day functions on the forum. We are very pleased to have @GolfSpy_BEN (formerly Ben Joest) join our Forum Staff as a moderator. Ben has been a forum member for a little under a year, but proved his review chops early with the Garsen Grips member test and then blew us out of the water with his participation and activity throughout the season leading to a selection for the Titleist T150 irons. Ben also was one of the first to answer the call when looking for members to join the focus group, provide feedback on various projects and was a leader with the community call discussion. Finally with an area of need being required to be filled Ben stepped up and made himself available to take on the MyGolfSpy Virtual Tour as "The Commissioner". We have all benefited from having Ben on staff and appreciate his work, efforts and fresh approach to seeing the forum. Please all welcome and congratulate Ben on his new title and role on the forum! However that is not all... For those who also have paid attention to our Forum Staff Page you may have noticed that we also have a few more Forum Leaders to introduce. These members are working with the Forum Staff to make update and bring fresh new ideas to member testing, the forum and aid us in writing Forum Staff articles. That is not all though and we are very excited to have these three members join us as Forum Leaders. @Getoffmylawn - Has taken over our social media accounts and is doing a fantastic job in making daily posts and getting those accounts the attention they deserve @Lacassem and @Jnoble89 have both taken on writing responsibilities and create projects to help make our whole 2024 season better! The MyGolfSpy Forum is truly lucky to have so many great members and as staff we are thrilled to see our team grow as we continually look to strive for a bigger and better forum all while keeping to our roots. Please give Ben and the others a warm welcome!
    42 points
  29. One of the best things about our community is when a product may not work for them they pass it along. This is the case for @StrokerAce Callaway Paradym Driver. While it performed well during testing it didn't make the bag in the long run. The driver then changed hands to @GolfSpy SAM who put it head to head against his PXG. It worked well, but the comfort with the PXG was able to out perform any potential gains with the Paradym leading to more consistency and confidence with the PXG. Maybe third time is a charm? We want to find this driver a forever home! How to Sign Up - Unlike others where you drop your name and info in a sign up we want to switch things up a little and get those of you who are involved right now on the forum a better chance at getting your hands on this driver. Please post and share the following. 1. Your current driver( photo included) and the story of why you are gaming it. 2. Why we should pick you to test the driver. 3. Tell us about your best drive or driving round this season. The member selected will be required to do a full review on the driver and have their own placeholder post in the Paradym Driver Thread. *Driver specs - Callaway Paradym Standard (9*) with two shafts (Kai'Li' white XS 70g, tensei blue XS 75gs *We prefer those who are able to get play outdoors for this, however not a must. *Some geo restrictions (shipping costs falls on the tester). Interested in testing? Let us know below!
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  30. Testers Announced! Mizuno Long Game Test! Mizuno is here to bring back a favorite and often requested forum member test for 2023! The Mizuno Long Game test will see testers fit the top end of their bag with the ST 230 line of clubs to see what sort of improvements can be made using Mizuno's latest gear. Testers will get to experience the missing piece from their golf game in Mizuno's CORTECH Chamber which is featured throughout the lineup. What is the CORTECH Chamber? The CORTECH Chamber: The Missing Piece: Mizuno's CORTECH Chamber encases a dense stainless steel weight with elastomeric TPU, taking stress from the club face and creating an additional energy source. At the same time, locating weight closer to the club face to reduce spin rates, while contributing to a more solid, powerful sensation at impact. Please welcome and congratulate our testers! @Beakbryce @vandyland @Swood1994 @russtopherb
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  31. Testers Announced! It has been a few years, but we are very happy to have PING golf clubs back as part of our Forum Member Testing! The PING s159 are the newest wedges from PING; however, it is not just new wedges that PING is excited about for this testing opportunity. They have also released their new WebFit App that aims to simplify the often confusing wedge grind dilemma. PING s159 Wedge Features: The s159 wedges are now offered in six different grind options, with two brand new grinds introduced for this series (the B and H grinds). As PING worked closely with their tour professionals on an updated design and look which would appeal to more golfers. PING has included their Friction Face that combines face blast and their optimized precision-milled grooves for what they claim is "the launch and spin control to play score-lowering shots from every distance." Add in appropriately spaced MicroMax grooves depending on the loft; these wedges are packed full of technology. All of their loft and grind combinations have been made available in two different finishes: The Hydropearl 2.0 Chrome and Midnight. The WebFit Wedge App: A simple step-by-step questionnaire based on what their wedge experts use to identify the best grinds and options for their tour pros, the WebFit app aims to simplify and find the best grinds and lofts for your game. The entire process takes only a few minutes and provides several options that best suit your answers, making the choice of knowing what grind should work for you a whole lot simpler! Please welcome and congratulate our 4 testers! @bens197 @johngschulz @aguybadatgolf @Leonvdwesthuizen
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  32. I am thrilled to share my next six weeks and beyond as I work with an awesome group of guys to test the PING S159 wedges. A little about me. Steve, I’m 42, a husband to an amazing wife, father to an incredible daughter and dog dad to a 12 year old American pit bull terrier. My daughter fell in love with golf last year and both my wife and I couldn’t be happier watching her hit balls with utter joy. IMG_2943.mov Golf has played a significant role in my life since I was 7. A native Rochester, NY resident who spent 9 years living and working in golf in Southeast Florida after graduating college. I’ve worked pretty much every job you can name in the golf services. It all began as a 14 year old caddy at Oak Hill CC in Rochester, home of the recent 2023 PGA. I also worked the bag room there for 3 years which included the 1998 Amateur won by Hank Kuehne…who famously hit massive bombs using none other than the PING TiSi. Many of you are familiar with my background but it’s worth sharing now that we have so many new members involved in the forum! I left the golf business after working as a 1st Assistant Professional in 2006. I loved the job but it was not for me. Since then I have been in public safety as a Firefighter / EMT. I currently work as a Captain and as our fire district covers a portion of Oak Hill, was able to spend time working emergency services during the event. I get to play often and while my competitive days are behind me, you will find me playing around 2-3 times a week. Last year was my best ball striking and scoring year since my club pro days and I was able to lower my index to a 3.5. PING has always been a favorite of mine and was cemented for me in 2005. I traveled to Phoenix to visit the PING plant and was certified as a PING fitter. This experience was truly phenomenal, the entire tour of the facility left no stone unturned. From the gold putter vault to the foundry, a complete fitting process, a round at the now defunct ASU Karsten and at the end, a sit down with the Solheim family for some Q&A. I was so impressed with the company that when I returned home I ordered a set of PING i5’s, G5 driver and PING Tour wedges. So let’s talk about WHY I chose to apply for this test… When I thought about this year and eligibility for testing I was dead set on one item…wedges. Earlier in the year in the “what equipment are you thinking about” I shared my thoughts on why these were what had my eye. I certainly consider myself fortunate to be able to test these and put them through an entire season of play. I also am someone who loves to hit wedge shots. It’s a strong part of my game and I love being able to be creative around the greens. IMG_7592.mov Why these wedges? I like my Vokey’s, I want to see if there is something better. PING is THE engineering company. They are the early adapters and the innovators…I’ve seen it first hand in Phoenix and I am looking forward to comparing them to my current setup. I loved the early release photos of the S159, notably the higher lofted wedges. What I loved more was the emphasis on better grind options. I stopped by the local shop last week to finally put my eyes on them and ming…they look even better in person. The shape of the top line off the hosel is exactly what I would dream and I am really believing that PING took a lot of TOUR feedback to design a winner…I mean, look at that 50… My Webfit results were about what I had expected. I’m using it as a baseline and made one change. I really wanted to push my comfort level and dig into something that would prevent digging…I’ll get into that when the wedges arrive and I do the unboxing. Among all three clubs, the 50* will continue to be the workhorse. This club for me will be my go-to as it’s been for years. It’s the inside 100 yards club almost exclusively. I’m playing a similar grind to my recommendation so I expect it to perform similarly. I’m going to be hardest on this club because I hit it for almost every full and half shot inside 100 yards. Around the greens I am excited to get into the turf interaction and really put to test how these grinds work for a variety of shots and conditions. My current setup doesn’t give me the most confidence with the 54 and 60 so I have high hopes that opting for a more versatile bounce will give me a better sense of confidence for creativity. We get the weather and the conditions in Rochester. I have high expectations and a very open mind. At work, I like to say often to my crew that the best ideas have to win. Similarly, the best clubs have to win and if these perform anywhere close to as good as they look, it’ll be a pleasant experience. That’s it for now…Stay tuned Final write up and review: First Impressions (20 out of 20) Among all my testing opportunities, this one ranks highly for me. Wedges have been a club I’ve had a very public, love/hate relationship with over the last several years and I have settled on Vokey SM8 & SM9’s. They were the best available…but far from being jaw-dropping, “exempt from being removed” clubs within my bag. That day has come. I’ll elaborate throughout the grading but in simplest terms, PING has blended a premium aesthetic with built-in forgiveness that is only outdone by it’s consistent performance. I have been skeptical that wedges have hit their proverbial ceiling regarding technology. What I mean is, there really isn’t much else that can be done to improve a wedge. It’s easy for me to say with confidence that these are the best, most consistently performing wedges I’ve played in my 32 years of playing golf. The last few weeks of playing these wedges were about as easy as I could imagine. Early on, I had some dispersion issues that I soon resolved. I cannot point to the cause but since working on my short game, I can confidently say that these have changed my mindset over certain aspects of my game. So let’s break it down a little further: Aesthetics (10 out of 10) During the early release on Tour, I was super impressed to see the revamps of the address photos. Lines are super clean and look more refined than I am accustomed to from a PING wedge. I’m a club dork and the details do matter. I want something that gives me confidence and straight out of the unboxing I loved what I saw. I noticed straighter and sharper lines from hosel to toe and even better was the simple, clean badging. When they arrived I had a lot of confidence at address and they paired well with my T100 irons. The transition from 46* to 50* did not mess with my head despite being different OEM’s. At address, again it’s the sharp lines from hosel to toe. It’s everything I want to see in a golf club. The leading edges have a very slight prominence and minimal offset. Again, very pleasing to the eye. While in the bag, they’re equally beautiful, especially with the new grind shapes. Subtle but present and well engineered. Anyone who places cosmetics high on their rankings will be more apt to give these a shot. But there’s more to them beyond looks. Performance has exceeded my expectations. Feel is soft and solid. The elastomer insert in the rear of the club offers a clear benefit to vibration dampening and weight distribution. As I’d shared in earlier posts, the movement of mass upwards towards the toe helps engineer a wedge that reduces the ballooning flight that we aren’t looking for in our short game. Face grooves are smaller and more prominent which contributes to better and more controlled spin regardless of where you make contact with the ball. I’ve seen this especially prevalent in shots out of the rough. Control is the name of the game here and while others will have more concise data on their spin rates, the added spin does not shear up golf balls like a cheese grater. With smaller grooves it also makes it more difficult to clean. Far from a big deal and with a proper brush, you can clean these out without scratching the face. I know this is a concern for some and while they’re tools, not toys, my experience hasn’t seen any additional wear from routine scrubs. The Numbers (10 out of 10) I prefer to setup off the toe. Often times on pitch shots I’ll purposefully hit it off the toe to get a little extra grab and keep my flight down. It works well with my swing and while implementing this with the S159 I had greater success than years prior. In my recent rounds, missed greens would result in easy two putts and frequent saves. I joked with a friend who was playing a round with me, who said “you’re so excited to try that new broom putter and you’re only left with 3 and 4 footers!” It’s true. I can give these “a go” and know that they’ll check up nicely…little scooters have provided big saves during my time with these wedges. I cannot help but rate this a 10/10 because they are truly that good. On-Course (19 out of 20) This setup changed my game. For the better. Rather than relying upon a 50* wedge to be my workhorse, I have a 58* bent to 59* lob wedge that I can swing confidently and know where it’s likely headed. Full swing approaches have been accurate and even when missing off the toe, dispersion is surprisingly tight. My bad swings are often where I drop my right shoulder and try to steer an iron. As a result, I leave the face open and block it to the right. The 50* approaches and tee balls that I hit on par 3’s when making this mistake did not fall under this spell. Why the 19/20…I’ve had some trouble on fuller swings with the 54* bent to 55*. I purposefully chose the H grind as a new option to see where it would work for me. I’d switched from a S grind to this H and where it’s worked better is around the green with added heel relief. Squared up it’s really not going to be the go-to for me but around the green when I want to open the face and get some extra mileage, the 55* will have it’s purpose. On course, I’ve seen no change or issues coming from the practice area. The technology here is real. Dispersion, flighting and control have exceeded not only my expectations, but out perform the #1 wedge in golf. I’ll say it…I’ve played them prior to the S159’s for years and it’s not even close. I hope that makes you wonder what it could do for you. The Good, the bad, the inbetween (18 out of 20) I’m not a fan of the Dyla-grip. I love the idea, I love the design, they’re just not for me. I gave them an honest go throughout the testing but ultimately, what I am looking for, these aren’t it. I don’t want to put them on blast because there is truly, a significant value to offering these in the lineup. The arrow notches will certainly help players with their shorter shots and the reduced taper will still offer a solid feel on these choke down swings. That’s really the only critical issue I had. Again, I had a choice and I chose these. Play it or Trade it? (20 out of 20) These are the wedges I hoped to find. That’s all. I’ve written enough above to support my thoughts, I’ll spare you the verbosity and simply say…these wedges are going nowhere. Final Score (97 out of 100) Conclusion Cosmetically pleasing technology. Variety of grinds. Consistent feel and performance. Do I have your attention? If you’re in the market, you should put these on your list because they did not disappoint.
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  33. FINAL REVIEW First Impressions (16/20) I wasn't impressed with the lack of protective padding in the box. The driver arrived without damage but I can easily imagine a delivery company gorilla damaging the club with the lack of protection. The different torx screw sizes for the two weight placements is puzzling. The head cover is nice and exudes quality. Aesthetics (19/20) I think the dark blue body and dark blue face are smashing. The Max has a very large profile that some won't like but I find it reassuring. Bottom line: this is a very good looking club. The numbers (20/20) I don't care how good a club looks if it doesn't deliver. This club delivers in spades. You can see in the body of the review that the club delivers elite ball speed numbers on off center hits. After adjusting the loft and adding some lead tape, the performance on the course was outstanding. At my slower swing speed, I just don't think I can get more out of a driver. On course (20/20) Despite being designated as the most forgiving of the Q drivers, the Max gave me a penetrating flight with low enough spin to produce a lot of roll out after landing, even in the highest loft setting. As you would expect from the ball speed numbers, it was forgiving on mis-hits. It takes a truly terrible swing to get in trouble with this club. The good, the bad, and the in between (18/20) This driver won't suit everyone. A high swing speed player may find better results with the LS or regular version. But that is hardly a criticism. There is no club that is right for everyone. The driver did not come with an adjustment tool or an explanation of the different hosel settings. The adjustment tool is probably no big deal for most -- there are plenty floating around and anyone who bought a driver in the last decade probably has one. I have no idea why TaylorMade would not include a chart explaining the hosel adjustments, but I am deducting points for that. Play it or trade it (20/20) This club is now my gamer. I fiddled with my previous driver until it was maximized for my swing and the TaylorMade still produced a small but measurable increase in performance. I am looking forward to using it as a test platform for different shafts, but the results I'm getting now are excellent. Final score: 93/100 I need to thank the guys at my local Edwin Watts. They let me pound balls on their launch monitor a few different times without charging for their time. Apparently, customer service isn't dead! Thank you to TaylorMade and My Golf Spy for the opportunity. INTRO What an exciting opportunity! Many thanks to TaylorMade and My Golf Spy. First, a little about me. I am a 67 years old (and I mean old) retired guy who has been playing golf since my mid 30's. Strictly speaking, I played a little bit when I was 11 years old but it didn't take. Interestingly, the main thing I remember about golf at that time was that I was always hitting the ball left. As you can see from my user name, the problem seems to be baked into my genes. I have never had much speed. I blame a lack of fast twitch muscle fiber. When I was a kid I could run all day but I was no sprinter. You can call me the Slow Twitch Kid. When I played football, I was small but made up for it by being slow. I'm married to a wonderful woman. We have two grown sons (my step sons) and three grandchildren. The two youngest grandchildren live 5 minutes away and we keep them every afternoon after school. I am trying to get them interested in golf, but so far no luck. The USGA says I am currently an 8.8 handicap. I say they are full of it. I have a hard time breaking 80 from the senior tees. No telling how high my scores would be from the regular tees. Driving is the strength of my game. I don't miss many fairways but am distance challenged. Iron play is the worst part of my game. My chipping and pitching are good. Putting is mediocre. A couple of days ago a Rapsodo MLM2 PRO launch monitor showed up on the doorstep, so I'll be using it for measurements during this test. I got some shots in yesterday. I am going through a bout of dizziness at the moment, so they were not my best efforts. Dizziness -- they should use that as one of the excuses on the Carl's Golf Land commercials. Here are the numbers from my best shot: Carry 207.9 YARDS Total 218.8 YARDS Ball Speed 127.6 MPH Launch Angle 19.0° Launch Dir. 2.0° Spin Rate 3065 RPM Spin Axis -1.7° Descent Angle 44.4° Apex 109.0 FEET Side Carry 1.4 YARDS Club Speed 86.2 MPH Smash Factor 1.48 Here are the averages for all shots: Carry 198.2 YARDS Total 210.3 YARDS Ball Speed 124.8 MPH Launch Angle 19.3° Launch Dir. 0.4° Spin Rate 3028 RPM Spin Axis -0.6° Descent Angle 42.8° Apex 100.2 FEET Side Carry -0.3 YARDS Club Speed 85.8 MPH Smash Factor 1.46 What stands out is that I am loosing yards because of high spin and too steep a descent angle. PLAN FOR TESTING I am going to use a combination of environments: on the course, on the range and outdoors into a net. For the net shots, I'll be using the Callaway Soft X balls that come with the Rapsodo. On the course, I'll mostly be using my current gamer, the Bridgestone B XS. I will be trying the driver in different settings in an attempt to maximize results. I also have a spare shaft with a TaylorMade adapter that I'll try, but my official results will be based on the stock shaft from TaylorMade. GOALS I'm looking for lower spin and a lower descent angle than my current gamer in an effort to eke out a few more yards without loosing forgiveness on off center strikes. One of my talents is missing the center of the face, so forgiveness will be a big part of the test. I received the driver yesterday. Make me wanna dance! It arrived safe and sound despite having essentially no padding in the box. I was disappointed that there was no adjustment tool included. Luckily, I have an old Taylormade tool that works. Also, there was no card explaining the hosel settings. I went online and printed off instructions for the Sim 2 driver that had the same hosel settings. The driver is a handsome devil. I really like the dark blue face. It is darker than the blue you can order for the My Stealth customization. This morning I played 18 holes. Playing in a 12 to 15 mile per hour wind, I hit 9 of 12 fairways. The distances ranged from 180 yards (terrible flipped hands pop up) to 249 yards (down wind on a hard fairway), with an average of 216 yards. Without the wind the range would not have been so large. I think these are encouraging results. Tomorrow I will get some numbers using the launch monitor. NOTE: I hit a number of shots today using my Rapsodo launch monitor. Unfortunately, after the shots synced, it was showing some bizarre numbers. For example, on some of the best shots, it was showing a club head speed 7 to 8 mph lower than it showed in the app at the time of the shot, but what looked like the original ball speed. This resulted in smash factors of 1.57 and 1.58. As much as I would like that to be accurate, I know it just ain't so. As a result, I am not going to post any numbers from the session. I'm going to the local Edwin Watts sometime this week and see if they will let me compare the Rapsodo to their high dollar launch monitor. I still find it odd that the heel weight and back weight are not interchangeable. I am going to get in touch with Taylormade customer service and see if they offer various rear weights (don't worry mods, I won't tell them I am part of the MGS test). UPDATE: I played 18 holes yesterday and was able to get a feel for the forgiveness of this driver. Not that I did it intentionally. I put 2 terrible swings on it and got playable results. You get a different sound when you miss the sweet spot and I did that a few times and still got my normal distance. That was impressive. When looking at the club head, I noticed something for the first time—the alignment mark is off centered towards the heel. I took a picture of that. Maybe that is to compensate for the player’s eyes being so far to the side at address. You'll notice in the first pic above that my miss is toward the toe. I say miss, but since I hit it there more often than the middle maybe the occasional shots out of the sweet spot are my miss! I went into this review hoping for more distance while retaining forgiveness. My thought was lower loft would give me higher ball speed and that may be true; but yesterday, I decided to go in the opposite direction and turn up the loft by 2 degrees and had good results. Hmm, more testing is needed to figure out that. UPDATE: I spent some time on a Trackman launch monitor to get an idea of forgiveness on off center hits. As you will see in the pictures, the retention of ball speed on off center hits is extraordinary. I tried different hosel settings to see how much they influenced spin and ball speed. The average smash factor of all hits was 1.49. That boggles the mind. The stickers in the pictures show the impact positions. Even if I didn't get the stickers perfectly centered on the face, the results are extremely impressive. Basically, any strike in the same zip code as the middle of the face gives you high ball speeds. I noticed on the course the other day that the highest loft setting was giving me the best results. The launch monitor session showed why. At my slower club head speed, I need more spin to keep the ball in the air for maximum carry. I have a positive attack angle with the driver of 3 to 5 degrees. That tends to lower my spin. Despite this, spin with my gamer driver is too high. My hope going into the test was that lower spin would get me more yards but with this driver overshoots the mark in lowering spin. However, that is applicable only to my swing. The driver cannot be faulted. UPDATE Adding some lead tape to the driver really helped with my consistency with it. Almost all shots are now soft draws and I'm generating a little more club head speed. There is something unusual about this driver which may make adding or lowering weight a little more difficult than with other drivers. Take a look at this video: 73292395586__26B318DF-D109-40E4-99ED-1BCBE5241D79.MOV UPDATE I compared the Qi 10 Max with regular flex shaft to my gamer Ping G430 Max with a Distanza 40 senior shaft. The TaylorMade was slightly better. I then tried the TM with a senior shaft and saw an increase of about 5 yards. I will be using the senior shaft from now on. Here are the numbers before switching shafts. TaylorMade Qi 10 Max Ping G430 Max
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  34. Testers Announced! Motocaddy has long been considered a leader in the electric push cart industry, offering a wide variety of options at various price ranges, including the new M1 DHC Electric Caddy and M5 GPS DHC Electric Caddy. For this Testers Wanted opportunity, Motocaddy has offered several different models to put to the test! About Motocaddy Motocaddy is a British company founded in 2004, aiming to bring reliable and affordable electric caddies to all golfers. They have won several awards and introduced a variety of different technologies and accessories to their lineup. The electric cart range consists of six different models, with the base model being the M1 DHC, the most simple to use but still including Downhill Control. With more features added, the M3 DHC and M5 DHC include integrated GPS with a touchscreen and further game-enhancing features. Finally, the M7 has two different REMOTE models with or without GPS technology. The electric caddies also include Motocaddy’s EASILOCK technology and a host of other details, such as an anti-tip rear wheel, simple, compact folding, and more. Please welcome and congratulate our testers! @StrokerAce @rkj427 @Erin B
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  35. Okay, here is your chance to brag and show off to tell us why you would make an awesome tester! Send in your best photos, videos, tell us what unique twist you may bring to a testing opportunity and why we should be giving you hundreds of dollars or more worth of equipment! Then if you really want to make an impression. Read this thread (main first few posts) https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/61746-mygolfspy-forum-how-to-be-a-tester-guide/ leave a reaction and comment if you found it useful!
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  36. Introduction Thank you to L.A.B. Golf and the MGS Forum for this unbelievable opportunity to test the new L.A.B. DF3 putter! As a husband and father of 3 young children (Ages are 6, 4 and 1.5 years old) my main job is reading children’s books in funny voices and expertly applying superglue and packaging tape to broken toys! I have a side gig in building creative (and mostly safe) obstacle courses for the kids to jump around on. As a family, we also like going on hikes and bike rides. The photo below is from a local hike that has a viewing/learning area about farms and crops and their various growth stages (my wife and I decided not to put our kids on any social media, so you’ll just get the backs of their heads ) We live in an area of Southern Michigan that is known for having a lot of lakes, so we try to spend a lot of time in and around the water (in the summertime) in this beautiful area. It's also a great area for golf and there are at least 12 golf courses within 20 minutes. My day job is working as an electrical protection engineer for generating facilities throughout the state of Michigan, protecting the people and equipment within the facilities. It’s an incredibly interesting job and I’ve enjoyed it for the last 10 years! As far as golfing goes, I started golf when I was 14 and played on the H.S. golf team. My peak handicap was 5 during that time. After high school I almost never golfed, playing 7 times over 15 years. I got hooked again in the fall of 2021 and haven’t looked back. I got my first ever fitting in the fall of ’22. I’m a proud member of the pushcart mafia and walk every chance I get (check out the Clicgear 4.0 review thread; in ‘23, I had lower scores when walking)! I’ve put in quite a bit of practice to get my HCP from 17 in ’21 to my current HCP of 7.4. Putting has improved, but my golf game has traditionally gone as my driver goes and putting has always been my biggest weakness. Being a weak putter, L.A.B. golf putters have been of obvious interest to me, and there seems to be excitement around these putters in everyone from professionals to weekend warriors. I love that they're using technology and engineering to try to make putting easier. I’ve had about 100 different combinations of L.A.B. putters in my cart over the past year or so! That being said, I have never rolled a single putt with a L.A.B. putter… yet! I did a putter fitting in '22 and it was based on my static measurements and my putting stroke style. My putting stroke is straight-back straight-through so they recommended a mallet, face-balanced putter that is 33.25" long putter with a lie angle of 69*. We'll see what LAB recommends via their online fitting! My current gamer putter is a Sub70 AL-6 armlock putter that is 39.5" long with a lie angle of 72*. I did an unofficial review last year of the putter and switching to armlock. You can see the review here. I had significant improvement switching to armlock! VS. Over the course of this test, I plan on putting the LAB DF3 through it’s paces in 3 main ways: The key testing method is going to be on the course. Before switching to the AL-6 armlock, my average putts per round was 38.7 putts. With the armlock putter over the last 9 months my average putts per round is 34.1. Will the LAB DF3 improve my putts per round? I’m going to keep more detailed records on my putting than ever before (e.g. length of putt, make/miss, long/short, left/right, confidence over putt). Tempo has been something that I’ve struggled with, so it’s what I practice most at home and so far that has consisted of rolling putts in my living room using a ruler to gauge my takeaway length and a mirror to keep setup consistent. This setup is easy, has worked and I’d like to see how quickly I establish a good tempo with the DF3. I will also be using the EXputt putting simulator, which should be arriving any day now, to compare my armlock putter stroke to the DF3 and get data on face, path, and speed control. As a side test, I’m hoping to go to a true putter fitting experience and get their thoughts on the DF3 vs. my gamer armlock AL-6 putter. I also want to answer the following questions: How long does it take to get used to the L.A.B. style of putting? Is going from armlock style to L.A.B. style more difficult than my transition from normal to armlock? Do I like the looks/feel/sound of the putter? How was the fitting and ordering process? Thanks again to the MGS Forum staff and L.A.B. Golf! Let us know if you have any questions that you’d like answered throughout this test! Fitting Experience In order to be fit properly for a L.A.B. putter, length and lie angle are critical. LAB has a system on their website (with detailed instructions) to submit videos of a single putting stroke online (video should be 3-5 seconds). From there, they analyze the video and provide fitting results via email. Our fitting results were delayed because of a hiccup in the computer system where they lost all video submittals. My fitting results took 12 days to receive. Below is the video I submitted: My fitting results came back with a length of 32.5" and a lie of 70*. At this point, I was able to respond back to the fitters at LAB with all of my questions. I had questions about the counterbalance option, alignment aids, shaft options, grip options, and the fact that 32.5" length is unusually short for someone 5'9". Their responses were quick and thorough! To sum up the replies, because my gamer putter is an armlock that has a putter head weight of 400g, they recommended the heavy head and the counterbalance option. The TPT shaft was recommended because it's the best at removing inconsistencies most golfers struggle with. For alignment lines, LAB replied that they are personal preference and can be combined if they don't overlap. I knew that I wanted lines from front to back, but also wanted something unique. See the final result below. Unboxing/Initial Photos The counterbalance option with the TPT shaft and Garsen Quad Tour 17 grip I spec’d out at 36.5" long and 70* lie angle. I decided on the blue DF3 color, with alignment lines: I (two lines), X (LAB logo), & G (line all the way to the back). This thing looks !!! Below is the unboxing video I recorded as fast as possible after receiving the DF3 from FedEx! All of the testers decided to name their DF3 putters and I landed on 'Dory' because she's blue (like my DF3), has short term memory loss (necessary attribute for putting), and always finds a way to get things accomplished! Here are the initial photos of Dory right after the Unboxing! I cannot wait to get this thing out on the course and put it to the test! First impressions coming soon...
    39 points
  37. sirchunksalot

    Merry Christmas

    I just want to take a moment to wish all of you, my golf family, a Merry Christmas. This year has been a phenomenal one here on the forum and it’s all due to you. You have made the forum feel more like a community than ever before. I hope your Christmas Day is filled with laughter, joy, and good times with those you love. I know this is a crazy time of year and most of you will probably be running around today spending time celebrating the holiday. I ask that you take a moment during the madness to truly be in the moment. Look around, take in some memories, and enjoy this special time. Try not to get caught up completely in the craziness and make some memories, as they can last a lifetime. I hope you all have a wonderful day celebrating this holiday. 2023 has been a banner year on the forum and I’m excited to see what the next year brings.
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