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  1. 107 points
    Please join me in congratulating our nine (9) testers that will be embarking on the journey for more speed: Low SS: @J_L_35 @Jbmullin @tony@CIC Med SS: @MALyons31 @MaxEntropy @Apolloshowl High SS: @jlukes @ChasingScratch @alisarodriguez15 Good luck guys! ________________________________________________________________________________ SuperSpeed Golf helps you increase swing speed using OverSpeed Training, which is exactly what it sounds like it is. Basically, it creates a neurological reset and trains your brain and muscles into believing you can swing the club faster. It makes the body move faster than normal during training to permanently increase the neuromuscular reaction speed of the body. In plain English: swinging a training stick faster than normal causes your brain to remember this faster speed, and even start expecting it. Frankly, the majority of training aids we test aren't worth your money. But, you don't get into the bags of 700+ touring professionals and 100,000s of everyday golfers unless it works. We're pretty confident it will work for you, too. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ We're looking for 9! dedicated forum members to test, review, and keep the SuperSpeed Golf Training system throughout the entire 48 week program and post updates every step along the way. Specifically, there will be 3 golfers in 3 different speed brackets. You don't have to be a low SS guy to take advantage of the program and SuperSpeed is ready to prove it. To apply, reply to this thread with the following information: Location and Age Current Driver SS Rate your fitness level: below average / average / above average Affirmation that you will see the entire program through Note: if you are unable to post in the thread and are wondering why, please read through the FAQ first: HERE
  2. 73 points
    Testers Wanted (4) Among all major companies these days marketing claims around drivers are getting out of control. Manufacturers would love for golfers to buy new drivers every year or two, at seemingly increasing prices—it’s what helps pay for those flashy advertising campaigns and big-name tour contracts. As a result, the price of drivers has exploded, and it becomes a vicious circle. Ben Hogan Golf is primarily thought of as an iron company, and rightfully so. But when it set out to design and build the new GS53 Driver, it did so with the serious golfer in mind. They feel they have developed one of the best looking and best performing drivers available. They feel it’s a driver that lives up to the Ben Hogan name and promise. So if you’re a regular reader of this space…you know what’s coming next……….. TESTERS WANTED; we’re going to select four of our trusted forum members to see for themselves—and of course share with the rest of the forum— if the GS53 drivers live up to the Ben Hogan name. The testing is open to all forum members in the US, Canada and UK. At this time the driver is available in Right Hand only. To Be Considered Please Provide the Information Below BUT DO NOT QUOTE THIS POST First Name City/State or Country Driver Swing Speed Handicap We'll be choosing the testers sometime next week
  3. 72 points
    please join me in congratulating our sacrifices...err.... COMPETITORS: @GB13 - Forged Tec - MIM @B.Boston - Forged Tec - MIM @edingc - SPEEDZONE - King Black @Headhammer - SPEEDZONE - MIM @daviddvm - SPEEDZONE ONE - KING ONE (5) Competitors Wanted: #COBRACONNECT Challenge 4 That's right, it's time for the largest annual event the MyGolfSpy Forum runs. #COBRACONNECT Challenge 4 is ready to knock your socks off as either a competitor or enthusiastic fan. (5) dedicated testers will be outfitted with a full set of Cobra clubs complete with Cobra Connect Arccos sensors to track your progress throughout. The testers will compete in (8) weekly challenges that will test their ability in a wide range of challenges with a season champion crowned at the thrilling completion. In addition to our testers competing for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place prizes, members of the community will be able to compete for PUMA GOLF prizes on their own. It's getting tougher each year to surprise the community but we're going to do our best this year with an increased catalog of Cobra Products on the table: Woods: SPEEDZONE and SPEEDZONE extreme drivers, fairway woods, and hybrids Irons: (3) SPEEDZONE and (2) Forged Tec testers. Available in conventional or One Length 3 Wedge Sets: (3) King Black (conv or OL) and (2) King MIM Go ahead and get started using the official hashtags for this challenge #MGSCOBRA2020 and #COBRACONNECT. In addition to the weekly challenges, testers will also be expected participate heavily on Social Media. This opportunity is open to residents of US and CANADA. To apply, reply to this thread only with the following information: Handicap and Location Social Media Accounts Expected rounds in an 8-week span Current OEMs in your bag Head to https://www.cobragolf.com/ and build your dream bag for this challenge
  4. 53 points
    Congrats to our selected testers! Go here to see the official review: Testers Wanted (2) T100-S and (2) T200 Titleist Irons What better way to get our minds off of all the troubles in the world these days than a good iron testing. Well at MyGolfSpy, we don’t do good, we do MIND BLOWING--You Can Not Be Serious testings!! And that’s what we have here! When Titleist introduced its new T Series irons last fall, it included pretty much everything you’d expect from Titleist, all neatly arranged—T100, T200 and T300. The T100 fit the accomplished amateur and many tour pros, while T200 and T300 were designed for the distance and game improvement segments respectively. Now this spring comes the T100-S, and you can read the excellent First Look by our own Tony Covey here: Titleist launches T100-S. Titleist in the first ever Forum Testing opportunity that I can recall, is going to provide our members a chance to put these beautiful and now longer players irons to the test. But wait there’s more: Titleist doesn’t just dip its toes in the water, it goes off the high dive! It realizes most everyday forum golfers aren’t cut out for such a player’s club. So, it’s widening the testing field to include the T-200 iron as well! That's right two models, two testers each. So read the instructions closely, as not following them exactly could cost you an opportunity to be a tester. How to Apply This is important, so please follow these instructions carefully: 1. If you haven't already, make sure you're a registered MyGolfSpy Forum member 2. Provide us with the information requested below. 3. Be honest on your selection of desired test iron and handicap, it doesn't do anybody any good to have a 36 handicap testing an iron designed for tour players and single digit handicaps. - Your First Name - City/Sate - Your Handicap - Current Iron Model In Play - Desired Model to test- You Must Choose ONE-saying something like "either one" will get you disqualified. Lastly but just as importantly Please do not 'quote' this post when applying.. Per the manufactures request: this review opportunity is open to golfers who resides in the US. We'll be announcing the testers in this thread next week, so make sure to check back.
  5. 50 points
    Testers Wanted (5) 2 - Icon Irons 3 - PTX Pro/Icon Combo Sets If there is any company that should have an iron called Icon, you have to believe that Ben Hogan would be one of the few to justify such a name. Arguably one of the greatest golfers of all time, Hogan was known for his pursuit of perfection both on the course and in the factory. Therefore an iron from his company bearing the name Icon, better be a good one. Well it's obvious to anyone from these pictures, that the Icon irons have already achieved half the battle with looks.The part about performance will be left to the hands of our lucky chosen testers. The Icon irons make no secret that you better have the game to put these in play, as they are ideally suited for the single digit player. But the good folks at Ben Hogan realize not everyone is blessed with pure ball striking skills or lives on the range, so they haven't left out those of us who live in the playable double digits neighborhood. Partnering with the Icon irons in the 8-P, the PTX Pros. in 5-7 offer a bit more play-ability in the mid iron section. Rounding out the low end of this players bag is the option for UiHi Utility iron or the incredible looking VKTR+ hybrid. So the call goes out to those who think they have the game and writing chops to do these irons justice on the course and in the forum. Step up, don't be afraid! HOW TO APPLY This testing is open to any right hand golfer who lives in the US or UK Follow the below instructions and please DO NOT quote this post when applying. Just create a new post First Name/City State or City Country Handicap Current Iron Model Played Which would you like to test Icon or PTX Pro-Icon Combo, You MUST choose ONLY one option. We'll be choosing the testers late next week, so check back to see if you have been chosen. Good Luck!! ______________________________________ Note: if you are unable to post in the thread and are wondering why, please read through the FAQ first: HERE
  6. 42 points
    Well for roughly 45 years, I've played this game, and heard lots of Hole In One stories, and have only witnessed 1 in all those years. Today, I witnessed a second one....that came from MY CLUB!! That's right my first ever Hole In One in our Thursday Morning League. Here's the specs: 145 yards back pin PING G410 6 hybrid (it was into the wind ) ProV1X #12 CG2 stamped Looked good the entire way landed just over the ridge and fed toward the flag, the actual hole is hidden due to the ridge, but when we got up there and I didn't see it on the green, I thought..."oh man it ran off the back!!) didn't see it anywhere in the fringe as i was walking to the green, so I took the obligatory look in the hole and there it was. I honestly don't remember what I said or did, but one of my playing partners said, he wishes he had a camera for the expression on my face! Pretty much shock and I didn't believe it. In the picture you'll see a Closest to the pin marker on the hole, it was a good shot in of itself about 10 feet to the right of the pin, I'm sure someone will be upset. So oh yeah, I mentioned two achievements. So that was just one very good hole of a very good round. I shot 39/43 for a personal best 82. Funny thing, the hole in one was not on the nine with the 39. Sadly that 43 was a result of two holes not being able to concentrate after the HIO, Taking a triple and double in 2 of the next three holes.
  7. 39 points
    When it comes to PING many things come to mind, quality, engineering, performance and irons are among the first things most people will think of. And with the release earlier this year of the G410 irons, PING has hit on each one of those characteristics. Following the huge success of the G400 irons, PING has hit a home run with the striking black and red colors of this iron, as well as a being a bit more streamlined in all the right places. PING has achieved the rare feat of providing an iron that has a profile appealing to even the most discerning of golfers, but yet still offering the forgiveness and help that higher handicaps look for. We are looking for three forum members to join staff member Golfspy_Stroker in testing, reviewing and keeping a set of these G410's built to their custom specs. Testing will require a nearly two month commitment of putting the irons in play on the course, at the range and providing ongoing commentary in the forum thorough out the process. As an extra bonus to the irons, the selected testers will have the option to choose Golf Pride Tour Velvet grips equipped with Arccos. The clubs will come with a 99 day free trial to arccos. After that the tester would be responsible for paying for the subscription in order to continue it. It will be a great way to add data to your review. PING has opened this testing to all golfers regardless of country of residence. All you have to do to be eligible for the testing is follow the below instructions. In a post in this thread please provide the following information...AND DO NOT QUOTE this post when replying! First Name/State or Country of residence Handicap Current irons in Play The carry distance of the your 7 iron That's it. Good luck to everybody We'll be selecting the testers within the next 10 to 14 days, so check back to see if you've been selected! =========================================================================================== YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE.... Please join me in congratulating these members selected from a very large and diverse applicant pool: @ballplayer002003 @GregB135 @Rickp Official announcement here: https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/33112-testers-wanted-3-ping-g410-irons/?do=findComment&comment=571106
  8. 38 points
    Stage 2 is now posted below after Stage 1 Stage 1 … Well, well, well I received my irons a week after THEZIPR23, blackngold_blood and DavePO43, yet am the first to Stage 1. What a bunch of slackers! A quick intro for those that don't already know me. chisag stands for CHIcago Screen Actors Guild. I have been a member of SAG for 42 years. Being an actor meant I was either very busy or had a ton of free time. The free time can work very well with a sport I am passionate about that takes a good 5+ hours to play considering the round and travel. As an actor gets older, roles are not as plentiful and free time is much more the norm than being busy. Obviously great for golf and I can take an entire winter off, which I did in 2019 playing 4 months in Phoenix. 107 out of 117 days playing golf can really fine tune your game. That said, this year due to a herniated disc, rehab and Covid closures, I did not play a single round of golf for 5 months. That is by far the longest break I have ever had from playing. … While the short game is my bread and butter for scoring, iron play is certainly a strength of my game. Loving equipment, I have owned way too many iron sets to mention. I currently play and rotate some Taylor Made P760’s & P790’s, Cobra Forged Tours and some Srixon Z Forged MB’s. Needless to say, the last thing I needed was a new set of irons. But of course I always look and the irons that caught my attention in 2020 were the Titleist T100-S. When MGS offered a set for review, I threw my hat into the ring and was very pleasantly surprised to be picked. Thank you MGS. All of my current irons have strengths and weaknesses but I will concentrate on comparisons with my P760’s, the irons I played most. I love everything about them other than their surprisingly thick top line. One of my biggest questions going forward is will the T100-S mid/long irons be as long and forgiving as my foam filled P760’s. … Right out of the box, the T100-S looked like irons I had a hand in designing. Head size, shape, hosel transition, sole camber and a thin top line is just about perfect to my eye and they immediately jumped to my favorite irons aesthetically. I dated a Playboy Bunny back in the late 70’s for a very short time and know all too well that looks don’t always match up with perfoprmance. So as beautiful to my eye as the T100-S are, they will have to outperform what I am playing now. That is a tall order. … About 15 years ago I spent an entire fall playing only knockdown shots determined to master that shot in Chicago’s winds. Most courses here stop watering around October and the fairways can become rock hard. I am happy to say I now have that shot, but by pounding all my clubs straight down into the hard turf I developed a nasty case off elbow tendonitis. Per my Ortho’s orders (a serious golfer himself) I switched to heavy weight graphite in my irons to reduce the wear and tear on my elbow and my body. I am glad I did and I never went back to steel. My favorites are the Recoil Prototype 95’s and I was extremely interested in the Kuro Kage Tini 105 gm shafts that were available in the T100-S. I ordered them in Stiff Flex and soft stepped once. Specs and description looked really good and my only concern was feel. I found playing some Aerotech Steelfiber 95 shafts, the feel is a little closer to steel than graphite. Great for Pro’s that have been playing steel their entire lives, but I am used to the smoother, slightly dampened feel of Aldila VS Proto’s and Recoil Prototypes. With Tini wire in the tip section for stability, I was hoping they felt more like Recoils than Steelfibers. If not, I would just re-shaft with my Recoil Prototypes but after 3 rounds, the feel is exactly what I look for in a heavyweight graphite iron shaft. Stable, accurate and precise with a slightly dampened feel to absorb unwanted shock. They launch a little higher than I am used to, but adjusting should not be difficult. … Due to the Corona virus I was not able to schedule a fitting for my T100-S but I know my specs and what shafts work for me, so it really wasn’t a concern for me. That said, I would always choose a fitting if possible. Other than 2* upright, soft stepped once and 1/4” long, my specs are standard. With only 3 rounds played, I m still trying to figure out yardages for each iron, something I will have down for Phase 2. I will say as an old school golfer that played a 48* pw for most of my golfing life, I have reluctantly learned to navigate the 6* gap between my 46* pw and 52* sw. But the opportunity to play a 48* wedge that Titeist calls a W2 was a welcome surprise. And instead of a W1 and W2 on the sole, Titleist labels these 2 wedges as P and 48* so no confusion pulling a wedge without reading glasses LOL. A small thing but a nice touch. … While I can and have played MB’s, I see no advantage over a Players CB that gives me everything a MB provides with added forgiveness. Like many low index players, on my good days I can hit anything well, but on my off days and especially days when my back is tight I will use all the forgiveness I can get. I am very interested to see how forgiving the tungsten in the heel and toe of the mid and long irons will be on slight mishits. And would the slightly thinner face of the T100-S compared to the T100 produce a hair more distance. A myth is other than the longest hitters, a little more distance for a better player is not wanted in their irons. But a slight increase in distance is always a plus if that distance is accurate, repeatable and all your gaps are covered. Why would I not want to hit my 4 iron 205 instead of 200? While I have never experienced any fliers from a good lie with my P790’s, they can occasionally be a few yards longer, because with a 5* interval between irons they cover a larger gap than I would ideally prefer. My hope is going back to 4* gaps I will experience more precise yardages and gapping from my T100-S. (bottom left) … And lastly, these are not GI’s or posses any magic that can correct a bad swing. Unlike many GI and certainly SGI irons, you will definitely know if you hit one thin losing distance and your fingers stinging similar to a MB. But the T100 series is the most played iron on the PGA Tour for a reason, and that tells me they can be extremely accurate and repeatable for guys who make their living knowing exactly how far they hit every iron. And make no mistake, the vast majority of players on all tours, PGA /LPGA/Champions want all the forgiveness they can get when it comes with accuraccy, for both direction and distance. So all I am looking for is an iron that: 1. Feels great 2. Looks ideal at address 3. Allows me to be laser accurate with my good swings 4. Gives me a little forgiveness with my bad swings 5. Produces a few more yards … If there are any specific questions about the T100-S irons or Kuro Kage shaft you would like answered, or something you are just curious about, feel free to ask and I will do my best to answer as I play and become more familiar with their capabilities. I have not requested to be considered for irons and a MGS review until the T100-S so they clearly have an opportunity to not only make it into my bag, but became my primary irons. I look forward to sharing my progress with all of you. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Stage 2 To quote The Grateful Dead when it comes to finding the perfect irons “What a long strange trip it’s been”. I loved my P790’s until a winter in Phoenix where hard fast desert greens demanded more spin to hold approach shots. So I picked up a set of P760’s hoping they would be a suitable replacement and I ended up liking them even better. So I was not in the market for new irons but like most of us, my trips down the aisle of any golf store always included a peek at new irons. But the only irons that drew me in like the Sirens in Oh Brother Where Art Thou were the Titleist T100. (I promise that was the last song reference). So when Titleist offered the T100-S irons to My Golf Spy members for testing, I was aaaall in. Looks While I love the shape and size of my P760’s, their too thick for a players iron top line was always a distraction for me. I think the transition from short iron to mid iron is crucial and Titleist really nailed it with the T100-S irons. The short irons and the mid/long irons need a solid transition with the 8 iron, and the T100-S do exactly that with an iron shape that isn’t a short iron or isn’t a mid iron, but a little of both. The size and shape of the heads as well as the beautiful thin top line look like I had a say in their design. An irons hosel transition should be something we don’t even need to talk about because it should blend seamlessly into the head and never even be noticed. The T100-S get it just right and the offset is also perfect. Just enough without too much, again harder to accomplish than many think. My only complaint, and I am really nit picking now, is the short irons have a slightly higher heel than I prefer. I appreciate a subtle yet technically advanced cavity as much as the next player. The T100-S are subtle enough to appeal to a more traditional player like myself, but have enough visual tech to appeal to younger players that have grown up in the bling era. The no upcharge Kuro Kage Tini 105 gm graphite shafts are an excellent match for the T100-S. I read where a golf psychologist said a two tone shaft creates an illusion that the shaft is shorter and therefore seems easier to hit. I think she was on to something. The light silver top of the Kuro Kage shafts extend for about 40% of the length and then transition into dark silver that looks like steel. I really love the look but of course Titleist offers quite a few no uncharge steel shafts as well. Score 9 Sound & Feel Titleist forgings have a crisper sound/feel compared to some other OEM forgings and it is one of their trademarks. I appreciate that feel, but when you flush them absolutely dead center they feel like absolutely nothing at all. Hogan once said he hit one, maybe two perfect shots in 18 holes of play, and the T100-S let you know exactly when you accomplish that feat. Slightly off and you get that really nice, crisp Titleist feel that lets you know you hit it really well, just not perfectly. The one area the T100-S can feel and sound pretty bad is high on the face, something that has happened to me when my ball is in deep rough above or below my feet and I am not quite sure where the ground is. Score 9 Practice Performance After 2 back surgeries I can play golf almost every day as long as I walk and keep moving. I have not been to the range in about 20 years because standing in one spot and swinging over and over again would take a toll on my back. But I like to play practice rounds late in the day. I can hit several different shots from the tee and fairway and actually find it more beneficial than hitting range balls. I don’t think I am over stating the capabilities of the T100-S irons by saying they can do anything you have the skill to execute. High-low, left-right, draw-fade. But very quickly I learned they don’t mask bad shots. There is a reason the T-100 series went into Tour players bags faster than any other iron Titleist has produced. They are very precise irons. With my P760’s and even more so my P790s, hitting 3/4 shots tended to fly a little farther or shorter than I would like. A slightly faster swing might produce a few extra yards. Certainly not the 20yd “fliers” some claim but when facing a 110 yd 3/4 pw to a pin in the back of the green an extra 4 yards can mean the difference between par and birdie. Score – 18 On-Course Performance After a few weeks of getting to know my T100-S irons, I played 5 rounds in a row under par, something I have never done before. That took “potential” out of the equation and I was able to shoot my age for the very first time. I was comfortable hitting these irons very quickly, sooner than any irons I have played and the number of iron sets is probably close to 50. That said, they are a completely different iron for me when it comes to loft and I am still trying to calibrate their distance in all conditions. We have had the windiest spring/summer I can remember in the Chicago suburbs so playing a “stock iron” shot has been pretty rare. The pitching wedge is 44* and I have never played a pw with a loft that strong. But my set also includes a 48* “wedge” that just has a 48 on the sole. The pitching wedge has a P and then 44 underneath. Printing 44 on the sole is one of the few errors Titleist made with these irons as a simple P would be much cleaner. After playing a 46* pw and a 52* sw for years I was used to manipulating swings to cover that 6* gap. It did not take me long to appreciate hitting shots with my wedges and the 4* gap with my 48* meant less swing calculations. I use it much more than my old 46* or my 52* sw and has become a go-to scoring club for me. The surprisingly forgiving 4 iron is one my favorite irons to hit. And while I am on the subject of forgiving, the high density tungsten in the heel and toe of the 7-4 irons make the T100-S pretty darned forgiving of shots hit a little on the toe side, which is my typical miss. Thin shots suffer more than heel/toe misses and as I said earlier, shots hit high on the face are pretty penal. The T100-S is not a Game Improvement iron so they do not mask mistakes. On my good ball striking days I still miss the center a little and the T100-S really shine when near the center, rewarding a slight mishit with a shot similar to a perfectly struck shot, just without that melt into the face feel. So I guess what I am trying to say is the misses with good contact are pretty good, while bigger misses would be better served with something more forgiving like the T200. I usually take a very shallow divot or just brush the turf after contact. But when I have taken a healthy divot the T100-S are excellent slicing through the ground, carving out a uniform and easily replaceable divot. This means a sharper leading edge that will not be much help with shots hit a little fat, although that kind of help is probably not an issue for most players contemplating T100-S irons. Now, the negative. I still am not quite sure how far I hit all of them because the lofts are so different than what I have normally played and I just have not had an opportunity to play them on many windless 70-90* days, so stock irons shots have been rare. And as much as I love the 48 and the 4 iron, I have had to remove a club from my bag to make room for both of them. I like to play a 3 wood, hybrid and a Driving Iron. The hybrid I use from the rough or when I need max carry and the DI I use from the tee or a 2nd shot into the wind. So I have to decide by course type/weather forecast if I want the hybrid or DI in my bag on any given day. Score - 28 Miscellaneous I have had more questions from players I have been paired up with than any other irons I have played, several playing earlier versions like AP2’s and AP1’s, along with a few questions about the Kuro Kage shafts. The one thing that is a constant is “Those just look soooo good” kinda comment. I almost had my first HIO with my T100-S. Score 9 Play it or Trade it The P760 mid and long irons are a bit longer than the T100-S for me and that is the only reason I hesitate to call the T100-S clear winners. I will do some head to head testing this fall. But for now the T100-S irons will stay in my bag. As I stated earlier, I was not looking at any irons other than the T100 series and if you put my feet to the fire I just might have preferred the T100 with weaker lofts so I could keep both my hybrid and DI in the bag. Yet I love the addition of a 4th wedge and it has improved my short iron play. Admittedly I am being a little greedy. Points – 18 Conclusion The T100-S irons are exactly what you think they are. Stronger lofted Players Irons that are an absolute joy to play but do not travel silly distances or cover up egregious miss hits. I think they provide the kind of look and performance you expect from a MB, with the added forgiveness you want in a Players Iron. With their thin top line and slightly smaller profile, they are perfect for MB players looking for something a little more forgiving. They can execute any shot you have the skill to play and enough forgiveness to help when you miss them a little. If you are a marginal ball striker, the T100-S are probably not for you. But the better player that hits the center and has command of trajectory and partial shots will absolutely love these irons. Considering new Forged Irons are selling for $1200-1400 it is difficult for me to say if the T100-S are worth the cost. But if you’re in the market for a Players Distance Iron or would like to transition from MB’s while keeping the look at address, I think the T100-S should be at the very top of your demo list. 5 rounds in a row under par is a record for me so there is no doubt they have improved my scores and I can certainly see why so many Pro’s have put the T100 series in their bags. Thanks again to Titleist and My Golf Spy as well as all of you that have followed this thread! Final Score – 91
  9. 38 points
    Testers Wanted (4) Ping G710 Irons Nothing like getting the official start of the MyGolfSpy Forum testing season off to a grand start with a set of irons that follow one of the most successful irons in the recent history of PING. When launched in the spring of 2018 the G700 irons caught golfers by surprise. They were different in almost every way from any iron PING had produced. And they performed, boy did they perform. Now, as is typical for PING, two years later they've launched the new version: the G710 irons. The most noticeable visual difference is the stunning stealth black finish. But PING wouldn't be PING if there weren't several technical improvements. Chief among those is sound and feel. But don't take our word for it—that's where you come in. Four MyGolfSpy Testers will be selected to test, review, and keep the G710 irons. Testing will require a commitment of putting the irons in play on the course and at the range and providing ongoing commentary in the forum throughout the process. How To Apply As an extra bonus the selected testers will have the option to choose Golf Pride Tour Velvet grips equipped with Arccos. The clubs will come with a 99 day free trial to Arccos. After that the tester will be responsible for paying for the subscription in order to continue it. It will be a great way to add data to your review. PING has opened this testing to all golfers regardless of country of residence. To apply to be a tester follow the instructions below. In a post in this thread please provide the following information...AND DO NOT QUOTE this post when replying! First Name / State or Country of residence Handicap Current irons in Play The carry distance of your 7 iron That's it. Good luck to everyone. We'll be selecting the testers within the next 10 to 14 days, so check back to see if you've been selected!
  10. 37 points
    Ping G410 Plus Driver - Stage 1 Review - jlukes Well it has been almost 2 whole years since I participated in official MGS forum testing and I have to admit, it feels great to be back in the fold! I have previously tested the Sun Mountain 3.5LS Stand Bag (which I still use), Evnroll ER2 putter (which I am taking to my grave with me), and Mizuno JPX 900 Tour irons (the only reason I am not still gaming these is that through fitness and lessons I increased my swing speed to the point where I needed to change shafts). What you should notice is that I do not apply to test everything and anything, and when I do apply to test something, it is a product that I am sincerely interested in doing a thorough long-term review for. I am going to use some of the background from previous forum reviews because a lot of that information hasn’t changed! My name is Joe and I am from Central NJ. I have been playing golf for about 23 years (since I was 12) and I am about a 4.1 handicap at the moment. I started hitting balls when I was much younger - my grandfather cut down an old 9 iron and 5 wood and gave them to me so I could hit balls in my backyard. I remember my first 9 holes being when I was about 11 years old - I shot 63 with my dad. I started playing in County tournaments when I was about 13 years old and played varsity golf in High School. My first job when I was at the local driving range/mini golf, and all through High School I worked at golf course taking care of the carts, running bags, and eventually became the starter. I have always enjoyed being around the game of golf in any capacity and I have found that it is truly a game for life. My son is just over 2 and he is already addicted to the game. I hope that he continues to see what a fun game this is and it becomes something we can bond over for years to come. When it comes to my golf game, I would say I have quite a few strengths. I am a long hitter (Carry my driver > 270 yards), I have an okay wedge game, and I am a good putter. Time is my enemy when it comes to golf; not being able to practice and play as much as I’d like (more than once a week or so) prevents me from being consistent. I have rounds where I am pounding it off the tee, but I can’t hit a GIR, and then I have rounds where I am a little wonky off the tee, but my short game saves me. Everything finally came together for me in November 2016 when I shot a personal best of -1 71, beating my previous best of +2 74. I am the type of golfer that can be extremely competitive, but I also love fun, no-pressure rounds with my buddies. A lot of the guys I golf with are not as good as me, but I do not care in the least. I enjoy playing with all skill levels and I have no problem giving advice and helping someone with their game if asked (and only if asked). I enjoy walking the course as much as possible and nothing frustrates me more than long rounds. I see no reason why an average round should take over 4 hours, no matter what the golfers’ skill levels are. If you want to know a bit more about my swing, I have a swing overhaul thread I have been chronicling here: It has been an interesting spring as I work to keep the momentum up from my winter lesson programs and I will update that thread with updates on my swing changes as the season goes on. But for the sake of this review, you should know that my driver swing speed is around 113-116 MPH and I play a bit of a draw. I have an upwards angle of attack and my miss is primarily a hook. Here is a video of my driver swing from the end of February For me, driver is my weapon. I play aggressive off the tee because if there is anything that modern analytics and “strokes gained” has taught us, it is that distance is king and that taking advantage of my ability to hit it long is key to me scoring low. I pull driver every opportunity I have. I am no more accurate with my fairway wood or hybrid, so there is no reason for me to sacrifice distance by laying up off the tee unless a hole absolutely calls for a lay up. I try to get on or close to all Par 5s in two, and I try to get myself as close as possible on all Par 4s so that I can be hitting a wedge into the green if the yardage dictates. I wasn’t always a great driver of the ball. I used to have quite a negative attack angle which resulted in low launch and high spin. No amount of head and shaft changes (much to my dismay) could correct a bad attack angle, so in 2014 I went through a swing change and learned to hit up on my driver. Once I got a positive angle of attack locked in, I noticed I gained 15+ yards of carry on my drives! I have been through quite a few drivers since high school - some were great, others were mistakes (due to lack of knowledge about fitting and purchasing on a whim) TaylorMade 320 TaylorMade r5 TaylorMade r11 TaylorMade RBZ Tour Cobra Amp Cell Callaway Big Bertha Alpha (fitted) Cobra Bio Cell+ Srixon 545 TaylorMade M1 (fitted) TaylorMade M2 (2017) (fitted) Cobra F8+ (fitted) Titleist TS2 (fitted) When the Ping 410 Plus testing was unveiled, I knew it was a testing that I wanted to put my name in the hat for. Ping received such outstanding reviews on their G400 line and I knew that that the G410 had to be something special in order to follow the G400. With that being said, I have never gamed a Ping club before. I do have a few old Ping putters, but I never really even given an extensive look to Ping Metalwoods and Irons. Thankfully, I was selected for this great testing opportunity and I get to see what Ping is all about! There are a number of selling points/claims that I will be keeping an eye on throughout testing: Turbulators - do they really increase swing speed? Adjustability - Well the G410 Plus is the most adjustable driver Ping has ever made. Does the weight track (3 fixed positions) actually work? Hosel Adjustment - The G410 Plus features a brand new adjustable hosel from Ping, one that now includes “flat” settings. Do they make a difference? I will put these three elements, as well as the general performance of the G410 Plus to the test over the coming months with the hope of providing the best information for the MGS forum. At the time of being selected for this review, I was gaming a Titleist TS2 driver that I was fit for at Club Champion. I truly believe that fitting is necessary to maximize what a golf club can do for a player. I chose the TS2 during my fitting because it provided me with the best combination of distance and accuracy. The Cobra F9 and Epic Flash SZ were longer, but I had trouble with both distance and lateral dispersions. When I was selected for G410+ testing, I immediately went to my local range, who happens to be a Top 100 Ping fitter, and got a basic fitting for the G410+. Unlike other OEMs, Ping does not offer a wide selection of no-upcharge shaft options. The only two shaft options that were really even under consideration for me were the Evenflow Black and the Ping Tour. However, I know from past fittings that I do not get along with the Evenflow series, so it came down to the Ping Tour. We set up the G410+ in a 9-degree head a Ping Tour 65X shaft and it was clear right away that it was the combination I would submit to Ping for testing. I asked Ping that it play 45" at a D3 swing weight. After I received my club I tested the swing weight and length at a shop and wasn't surprised to see Ping delivered on the nose. During the testing period I will be testing the G410 on the range, on the course, and on launch monitors. While I will be touching on how the club fits me, I will try to remain focused on validating the performance claims from Ping to see if the G410 stacks up with the rest of the drivers on the market. I want my review to be as interactive as possible, so please ask me as many questions on this testing thread and I will attempt to address them all. You won’t have to wait for my Stage 2 to head how things are going. All testers will be actively participating in the thread to provide updates as we go - so we can continue the conversation from day to day. So I mentioned that the TS2 was my gamer going into this testing, but if you are a regular on the forum, you would have noticed that as of this Stage 1 (April 3rd), I have sold my TS2. Without divulging too much right now, my 3 range sessions and 2 rounds were enough for me to know that the G410 Plus was going to be better for me going forward. Furthermore, I believe a good testing write-up should be about the individual club in the test and not about a club going head to head with another club. So does the Ping G410 Plus carry the torch that was lit by the G400 series? Early results are positive and I look forward to sharing the rest of my thoughts with the MGS community as the testing progresses.
  11. 37 points
    We're in the midst of a pretty good run here on the MyGolfSpy Forum. We've doubled in size in less than 4 years, and now stand at nearly 76,000 members as we march toward our goal of 100,000. Sure, the place has changed a bit since many of us old-timers joined up, but as we've grown up we've done our best to make sure the Forum lives up to its promise of being an open, welcoming and diverse collection of people who share the same passion for all things golf. Our founding traditions include respectful behavior, open welcomes to new members and lively, fun exchanges among real golfers - not the internet sensations who always hit it 320 down the middle. Do we slip up from time to time? Absolutely, but you guys are remarkable at self-policing. With that, I'd like to extend a personal thanks to GolfSpy Meyer, or as he will once again be known as - hckeymeyer. Brian has served as your forum director and moderator for the last year or so and, as happens in this position, will be transferring back to the role of valued Forum Member. Rob and Enrique will be assuming the roles of Forum Co-Directors and will eventually be looking to add another moderator to the staff roster. Forum Director is such a transitory position - I've done it, Brian, Bones, Mr. Theoo and others. We get to do it for a while and then we transition back into the real world of day jobs, family needs, etc. I know I speak for Brian when I say it's a fun ride, and you guys are the ones that make it that way. Anyway, cheers and thank you to Brian, and best wishes to Rob and Enrique as they take over the ship. Just remember Barbajo's first rule of management: I don't care what you do, just don't f**k it up....
  12. 36 points
    How's that for a click-bait tile? But it's true. My MGS Anniversary and story. Four years ago this week, I was browsing my Twitter timeline, when I saw a Tweet thread by MyGolfSpy and it got pretty heated. It wasn't your typical forged vs cast debate---shameless plug for this weeks NPG episode. It was deeper than that. While I can't recall exactly what everyone was so worked up about, they were definitely piling on MGS for a story or take it had put out. Like most times when we witness a car crash, we slow down to take a look...we know we shouldn't and we probably say we don't, but we all know we do. Anyway, I digress, I logged onto the site to see what all the fuss was about. As I said, I honestly don't recall the topic, but what I found was a very well written story with tons of inside information that I had not seen the likes of from the current forum I was on, even though it had contacts with all the companies as well, they had never written a true piece of journalism like this. So I was hooked, I read several past articles, and not once did I find anything that I thought was false, untrue or inflammatory as the twitter trolls were calling it. Again all I found were great articles, by Tony Covey, John Barba, Dave Wolfe and Chris Nickel And four years later, they are all still pumping out the best golf writing in the business. Then I found my way to the forum, and what I found really hit home. A very welcoming and friendly place. It seemed to be led by guys like @revkev @hckymeyer ( who was the Forum Director along with @GolfSpy Barbajo ) @fozcycle @Kenny B@Jmikecpa@chisag @jlukes @DawgDaddy and of course @BIG STU Each one of these members and the others set a tone, I had never seen on a discussion board before, and I was part of the two other big ones as well. It was a friendly, non confrontational tone. I felt welcomed and at home right from the start. In all honestly the forum wasn't near as big those four short years ago, and content was not as plentiful as it is now. True story, I told someone just this week, that I could log on and read all new posts and threads in less than 30 minutes or an hour. And that's not a testament to my speed reading skills...ha Over the next few months, I started noticing some names from the other forums coming on board, some I had interacted with for several years such as @ole gray @cnosil and @PMookie and a few I 'recruited" Going back to the lack of new threads. During those early months, I would often go back and find a thread from a year or several years ago and comment on it just to stoke new conversation. Sometimes it did, sometimes it didn't In a ironic twist, @GolfSpy STUDque who joined about a year later, kind of did the same thing, but in a more weekly time theme of for #ThowBackThursday, and had fun reading the responses to old threads that some didn't notice the original date on. I was fortunate that in December 2017, the site posted an opening for a couple Moderators. I applied like I'm sure many of you did. After a several stage application and virtual interview process, I and Studque got the email, to start picking out our @Golfspy_names I was stoked! Then just a year later came the opportunity to be Forum Director, again Studque and I both got to split the duties of running the forum. The opportunity to really have a direct hand in the things the forum does from Forum Testing. contests and other cool content is something we both enjoy and are appreciative of. We had to bring on a moderator to help us and we sorted through dozen and dozens of applications. It was impossible to choose just one, and we had a true half dozen finalist that all would have been great. But @GolfSpy Stroker and @GolfSpy MPR stood out and I can honestly say, the forum would't be doing nearly as well and have so many cool things going on without these two. Most of you have no idea the amount of time and effort they put in behind the scenes to keep things functioning and running well here. Thanks guys, I'm truly lucky to get to work with three talented and dedicated guys as you all are. So I promise this isn't a "phase 1" of a long drawn out post...ha It's already long enough. I'll just end by saying this place has been my internet home for the past four years, and I've enjoyed every single moment of it. In away everyone that contributes here whether it's 20 posts a year or 3,000 posts a year....looking at you @Shankster is like another family to me. And I truly appreciate you all!
  13. 36 points
    DRUMROLL PLEASE..... Spies - we are very excited for this test. This will be our first test with Honma golf and this driver finished in the top 4 in the 2020 most wanted driver testing. Very happy to let everyone know that these 4 lucky members will be testing the Honma TR20. Testing the 440 model: @golfingbrock @DPattGolf Testing the 460 model: @Getoffmylawn @Judge Smails
  14. 35 points
    Fingers sweaty. Butterflies in the stomach. Type type type type, click. Click type click. It's done. I've officially registered to play on the SoMD Amateur. Here we go over the top of this crazy roller coaster. Am I making too big of a deal about this? Definitely. But I'm going to do my best here to create some entertaining content for the rest of you. I play in a weekly league that gives a nice bit of drama but there's nothing like a stroke play event. The SoMD Amateur is the biggest of these events that comes to the local area. Last time I played was (I think) was 7 years ago. Every summer since, I've considered it and ultimately backed out for one reason or another. Between kids, jobs, the price, and realistic self-assessments, I just couldn't justify entry. This year, those things are balanced enough that I'M DOING IT! God, so nervous. Here's the deets: Location: Breton Bay Golf & Country Club - LINK Dates: 28-30 June Format: 54-hole Stroke Play, putt it all the way down play all the rules Divisions: Regular Flighted, plus Sr and Jr. Player Pool: 250-300 Golfers Last time I played, attrition got the best of me. I rarely play 2 days in a row, much less 3. I entered as a 15 and was placed in the 4th flight (championship + 5 total). Shooting 89, 92, 108 landed me in the middle of the pack of some 25-30 golfers in my flight. That year was also when I took the infamous 17 on a single hole READ HERE. This year, I'm entering as a 12 which may bump me into the 3rd or 2nd flight depending on entries. If I can shoot 3 rounds in the 80's and break 85 once, I'll be a happy camper. Leading up to the event, I'll add some posts for the practice plan, course management strategy, WITB, and whatever else comes up. Obviously, you won't get live streams during the rounds but I'll be sure to check in with some short recaps after each round and a overall wrap-up once it's done. For now, wish me luck
  15. 35 points
    It's been a while since I have posted. On January 1. I became a retired Virginia Gentleman. My participation on this site was available through the use of my office computer that I no longer have daily access. Due to my computer illiteracy, without its use, one could say that I am "off the grid". Occasionally, such as today, I am asked to come in to assist in projects that I was involved. So I thought I would take this opportunity to say hi and to let you know how much I will miss my daily discussions with my MGS friends. The bad news is that I am "off the grid", the good news is that my retirement plans have been realized. Specifically, my desire to do something associated with golf during my retirement. I now work part time at a local Annapolis golf shop called Dukes Golf. To say that I enjoy the experience would be an understatement, the interactions with fellow golfers is better than I expected and I am learning a lot about golf equipment. The one thing I have come to know is how much I don't know.
  16. 34 points
    Official Review Thread: PING G710 Irons It's a special joy for me to announce the reviewers of the PING G710 irons. PING iron tests are always among our most-applied-for, (dare I say) most wanted review opportunities. I had the privilege of getting in on the test of the predecessor to the G710s and have shot the best rounds of my life with my G700s. I am absolutely looking forward to seeing how the sequels perform in the hands of our four forum testers! Without further ado, our reviewers will be: @perseveringgolfer: REVIEW @Berg Ryman: REVIEW @JonMUSC08: REVIEW @Lacassem: Final Review Join me in congratulating these four and in following their reviews here!
  17. 34 points
    I feel compelled to weigh in from the MGS perspective so I'll do my best to address your concerns. You don't have to take my word for it but please consider these with an open mind. Here we go: Allowing Ads from small/medium companies: Yes, ad dollars are accepted from these companies, but that's only after MGS vets their product and deems it to be of high quality. There's a lot of products that get denied sponsorship because they just don't pass the smell test. You'd see these companies highly ranked in tests regardless if they were sponsors. Bias for the little guys through test results: Advertising on the site is completely removed from the tests. Most Wanted could be written by a robot with zero emotional connection because there's a straight line from the data to the results. Tests may change from year to test but that objective is to increase the quality of the test. All things must improve over time and Most Wanted is no different. Glaring (or not) reviews: The MGS Blog has long been out of the game of writing reviews. They may do feature pieces on new technology but the reviews can be found here, on the forum, conducted by real people. We can only put clubs in the hands of real people if a company offers up product. We ask every OEM, every year, and run the tests that we receive commitments from. No Scotty reviews means no Scotties have been submitted (as much as our members would love it). Forum Review Integrity: Any agreement we make comes with the caveat that good reviews are not guaranteed. We've lost sponsors before at the hands of poor performing member reviews. So be it. If there's one thing we promise, it's an unbiased opinion and that will not be compromised. Political Affiliation: Please don't Your final statement is an aggressive agreement with our philosophy. The data indicates tendencies of key attributes over large sample sizes but does not dictate what's best for you. Every player is different. The large data size or individual reviews should be considered a starting point, not a finish line. Eric, I would like to sincerely thank you for voicing your concerns on our site. Open discussion is key to education. I hope my response sufficiently addressed your apprehensions about MyGolfSpy. If you have any other questions or concerns, fire away and we'll be happy to respond.
  18. 34 points
    How do you improve on a line of drivers that had a member of the family win the coveted Most Wanted Driver in 2018? That's certainly a tough task for any group of engineers. But the really smart guys in the lab coats in the rooms where nobody is allowed to go in Phoenix are betting they have done just that. And they have gone into uncharted waters to do so. PING has been if not the last , then most certainly the last major equipment company to produce a driver with movable weights. For years PING has stated that it had enough technology built into each version of it's drivers that you need not worry about unscrewing plugs, or sliding bars, or inserting cogs etc. They had done all the work for you and the driver would work just fine, and they did thank you very much. Well take a close look at the rear of the new G410 Plus pictured below. You'll see three possible ports for a movable weight, center for neutral, on the heel for draw bias and out on the toe for fade bias. People have finally gotten what they have clamored for. And for those who prefer a driver with a bit of a draw bias and don't need to change if from that, well PING hasn't forgotten you, as it made the G410 SFT--Straight Flight Technology--and it otherwise has all the same technology. Will this movable technology along with all the hosel adjustment that can moved into eight different configurations make one of the best drivers on the market year in and year out even better? Well we're going to leave it to four dedicated and trustworthy and oh alright, it's OK to say-- LUCKY as well-- members of the My Golf Spy forum to test, play, review--and keep-- these drivers. The members of the forum will anxiously be awaiting the results. The testers will be getting these drivers pretty much the same time they will be hitting retail shelf's, so you will be among the very first consumers on the course with these incredible looking drivers. HOW TO APPLY: in this thread - and ONLY in this thread - tell us the following: 1. Your first name and home state or province. -US and CN eligible. 2. Your current handicap and driver swing speed 3. Your current driver 4. List whether you would like to review the G410 Plus or G410 SFT Pretty straightforward! Good luck, and we'll be announcing the testers in this forum early next week! WE HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT TO MAKE! Congrats to the following testers: @jlukes @fixyurdivot @tony@CIC @PING Apologist #9 Please see the post below for more details: Edited April 2, 2018 by GolfSpy Rob (see edit history)
  19. 33 points
    Testers Wanted (4) If you have followed MY Golf Spy at all in the last year you have no doubt read about Honma's effort to gain North America market share in the club business.That's no small task. However, Honma feels the TR20 drivers have what it takes to do that. The TR in TR20 stands for Tour Release and it’s replacing the confusingly named T//World 747 line. Honma is producing two drivers in the TR20 offering: a 440cc and a 460cc. According to Honma, the real TR20 driver story is weight, or, more precisely, it’s where the weight is and where it isn’t. The driver frame is titanium but the body is nearly all carbon fiber. But we are going to provide 4 of our Forum Members a chance to tell us and the rest of the community if they feel Honma has produced a driver to compete in one of the toughest segments to break into and capture any market share. How To Apply Reply Below-DO NOT QUOTE THIS POST and provide us the following information Right Handed Golfers Only First Name/City State: (US & Canada Applicants Only) Desired to Test: 440 or 460 Swing Speed: That's it. We'll be choosing the testers sometime next week, so check back and see if you have been selected. Good Luck
  20. 33 points
    (5) Testers Wanted: Bag Boy Chiller Cart Bag Nearly two of every three courses in the United States are currently open for business. Yes, open is a relative term, but as more golfers start to peg it up outside, there’s always the question of “Should I get a new _____________.” If your answer is “Cart Bag” it might be worth waiting until we release Buyer’s Guide that will give you the complete run-down on all of the latest models. That said, the Bag Boy Chiller Cart bag provides golfers a solution to a relatively common problem – How to keep beverages cold without asking for a bag of ice every time the beverage cart rolls around. Do you remember the excitement when Tommy Callahan first discovered the mini-fridge in his new office? If not, no big deal, but you really should carve out some time to watch Tommy Boy. If you do, that’s the type of enthusiasm Bag Boy is hoping to inspire with its Chiller Cart bag. Now to the important question. Want to test one and let us know what you think? All of MyGolfSpy’s Community Reviews require a serious commitment. You need to be motivated, detail-oriented, and savvy with online forums. Writing a thorough, detailed, and honest review requires a commitment. So, please make sure you read the following instructions carefully and apply in the proper place. Please note this is not a giveaway or a contest. We’re looking for golfers willing to complete a full evaluation and compose a detailed review for our Community Forum. This test is open to members residing in the US. To apply, reply to this thread with the following information: Location Current Bag(s) Things you look for most in a cart bag Note: if you are unable to post in the thread and are wondering why, please read through the FAQ first: HERE
  21. 33 points
    Did I say one? Meant to say 2. Yes, 2. First things first, a special thanks goes out to the 33 applicants we received for the open moderator position. It really says something positive about the community that this many people were willing to invest their time and effort. Many of these applications obviously took a lot of effort to pull together so we're also grateful of how serious the position was taken. Through 2 rounds of selections, two gentlemen separated themselves. We looked at the criteria from all different angles trying to nitpick our way to give one the advantage over the other but we just came up with differences, not advantages. Not only that, they complimented each other in a perfect Yin and Yang. Why not Zoidberg? I mean, why not both? After re-evaluating the workload, we decided there's definitely enough work to share if we want to truly bring this forum to where we want to be in style. This new platform has a lot of untapped potential that we'll continue to explore. If we're gonna do it, We're gonna do it right. We're going to do everything we can to make the user experience for YOU the best on the web so please keep the feedback and suggestions coming. Without further ado, please give a warm welcome to our new staffers. Formerly known as strokerAce and mpatrickriley, I'd like to introduce you to: GolfSpy Stroker and GolfSpy MPR Be sure to give them a follow on Twitter and Instagram as well. Social Media will be a big focus for MGS moving forward. 2019 is going to be a BIG YEAR
  22. 32 points
    From time to time, MyGolfSpy does brand-association surveys. Titleist is among the brands that fare best in these surveys: they have a reputation of no-nonsense quality and performance. Here's my hunch: if the survey asked to identify a brand with the phrase "Tour Proven," Titleist would win in a landslide. So here in the MyGolfSpy forums, we're delighted to work with Titleist to get four sets of their newest series of irons into the hands of our members for testing and reviews: T100S: chisag thezipr23 T200: blackngold_blood, redeeming his golden ticket from being our 2019 fantasy golf champion in grand fashion! davep043 This was among our highest-demand testing opportunities, and I know we'll all be following along eagerly as these great forum members put their new sets of Titleist irons to the test!
  23. 32 points
    Testers Announced! Reviewing the Sub 70 699 Pro irons will be: @Smellis745 @Tom the Golf Nut @GolfSpy MPR Reviews coming soon! _______________________________ A product with solid value never goes out of style. Couple that with exceptional customer service, and it's an attractive package for golfers who aren't necessarily looking to take out a second mortgage to purchase some golf equipment. That's the basic premise of Jason Hiland's company, Sub 70, that leverages a factory-direct model to keep help keep costs low. What about performance? Well, in 2019, the Sub 70 699 iron model finished sixth in the Players Distance category of Most Wanted testing. That might not sound like much until you consider it finished ahead of Callaway, PING and Titleist. That’s an accolade worthy of some refrigerator space. For 2020, the 699 Pro iron features a thinner topline, less offset, and a black, Tour PVD finish. This opportunity is open to right-handed golfers residing in the United States. If interested, reply to this thread with the following information: Handicap and Location Current Irons and 8-iron distance What do you know about Sub70?
  24. 31 points
    Ping G410 Plus Driver Review - Stage 1 Hello to all my fellow MGS’s who visit the Official Product Testers sub forum for some no-nonsense, candid Intel about all the new products that promise to rock our golf world. For me personally, this sub forum and the product reviews written by the staff are what made MyGolfSpy my choice as the golf forum to spend time being part of. First off, a HUGE Thank You to MGS and PING who, along with other manufacturers, make these product testing opportunities possible! What a fantastic way to engage us mere mortal, non-professional golfers, and get feedback from a wide cross-section of players. Seriously, the whole “product tester” thing is crazy cool and I am both honored and excited to have been selected for the Ping G410 Driver testing!! I would also like to give a quick shout out and Thank You to George at Desert Hills GC, Yuma, AZ for offering to do my club fitting. When I told him the situation (being selected by MGS as a product tester), he scheduled me right in so I could get the data back for the order. If you are ever in Yuma, AZ, play a round at Desert Hills and say hi to George and Drew - great guys doing a fantastic job running that course. My Background So, just who is this @fixyurdivot dude? My name is Bill, now 58 and I started golfing about age 7 in Ft. Lauderdale, FL. My Dad absolutely loved the game and introduced me to it. A used set of junior Chi-Chi Rodriguez clubs and a plaid golf bag became the tools of my trade. On Saturdays, myself and a couple of other neighborhood friends would get dropped off at a course where we’d get lessons and then play a small par 3 until late afternoon when someone would pick us up. A year later, I was playing in Junior Golf of America (JGA) and spending Saturday’s chewing up courses around south Florida which included Doral CC, Jackie Gleason Inverrary and Bonaventure GC. I never won a single event but the memories are still with me. I continued to play the game all my life – with bursts of focused effort/interest followed by periods of lackadaisical play. While in the Air Force, I once again got the bug and played quite a bit. I shot my lowest round ever (74) at Mather AFB in Sacramento, CA. Upon getting my Mechanical Engineering degree, my wife and I relocated to WA where I went to work for Boeing. I soon joined a work golf league and played pretty regularly – up until the last 5 or so years of my 30 years with them when travel, workload, and responsibilities made finding time a challenge. In 2016 I opted for early retirement and we moved to the golf capital of the world – Montana! Now I must confess that fly fishing is my #1 passion and I handle a 5 weight much better than a 5i, but golf is a really, really close second and I soon found myself playing the local courses. Combine that with our “snowbird” travel from Nov-Mar here in Yuma, AZ, where I play 3 times a week, and my fly rods are feeling left out. My Golf Game My current game has been pretty steady and I typically shoot in the 80’s. I don’t keep an official handicap, but my math has me at 13 presently. My best official handicap (11) was in the early 90’s. Inconsistency tends to be my nemesis – shooting a 38 on one side and a 47 on the other. Staying clear of “blow-up” holes when having a good round going is also problematic and most often it’s a drive gone OB that was the cause. I would say iron play is my strength as is my chipping. I have a pretty compact swing (not a huge rotation), not a really long hitter, and my typical driver ball flight is straight to slight fade. Another challenge I have is keeping swing tempo down. I’ve really been focusing on that the last couple of years and made BIG improvements, but I still get in trouble with that. I find myself playing courses much smarter these days then years ago. I lay up a bit more rather than trying to reach a par 5 in two – and to be honest, I’m still hitting as far, or further than a decade ago. While I still take aggressive lines off the tee, particularly when I’m driving well, I pay more attention to course conditions when choosing to do so. The “swing for the fence” mentality has slowly changed to a “manage the course” approach. I also find the "swing easy, hit well and far" approach to work for me. What’s in my bag? Well, let’s just get right to it – I still play PingEye 2 irons. I purchased these new in 1988 and have been playing them ever since. Up until last year, I gamed a Callaway Great Big Bertha, 8.5 degree driver. What can I say; I’m German-Irish stubborn, frugal, and not easily hooked by slick marketing and bling. It was only after repeated suggestions (ok, harsh teasing) from friends, that I needed to move into the current century in golf technology, that I purchased my current Callaway Razr-Fit driver in January 2018. I was fitted for the driver and it was among three I tested at the Kartsen Golf Facility at ASU. I immediately saw significant improvement in driving distance, accuracy, and forgiveness – silently asking myself why the hell I did not make that upgrade years earlier. Bill's Antique Clubs: So, this opportunity to test PING's newest driver technology is really interesting in my case. Having just made a logarithmic shift in driver technology, 1990 to 2014 circa, how much more could I possibly be missing? I am hitting the Razr-Fit very well and have confidence with it. The G410 Plus has a steep hill to climb. Will it reduce those OB score killers? Will its selectable “draw/fade” weight option, or 8 position shaft tuning feature allow me to get more draw ball flight? Will it yield faster club head speeds and carry distance? We shall see…. we shall see. First Impressions To be brutally honest, I do not find the G410 to be the sexiest looking driver. In fact, to me, it has a Chevy Truck vs. Lamborghini look to it. More utilitarian than posh, it has a brutish appearance that simply says “I’m ready for work”. The black, matte finish crown has no contrasting sheen areas, no logos, and no ball alignment mark. The “Turbulators” (small raised humps) on the crown are carried over from the G400 for improved aerodynamics – faster club head speed. At 455 cc in size, the G410 looks pretty compact compared to many of its competitors. This is a plus for my taste as I really dislike the “VW Bug on a stick” look. In comparison to my current driver, which is also smaller in look for a 458cc size, the G410 gets a thumbs up. At address, it looks great to my eye. The head cover is of nice quality and well made; sporting the PING logo and G410 designation. The graphics on the Alta CB shaft picks up the red accent on the driver head quite nicely and looks great. The Spec Sheet: The sole of the driver, interestingly enough, provides a bit more glitz with the PING name in bold chrome letters along with the G410 moniker. The leading edge of the sole has a black mirror chrome appearance which transitions into a v-shaped wear area. The forged face is fairly nondescript having a milled finish with contrasting white and light grey groove marks. It's as if PING is saying “it’s not the bling on the outside, but what’s under the hood that really matters”... and I'd be the first to tell you I'm good with that. Ping’s first “moveable weight” system for ball flight control is likewise kept demure with only a thin, red pin stripe following the arc of the weight track along the trailing edge of the head. The weight can be moved from the center “neutral” to either a forward “fade” or rear “draw” position. This feature is the principal difference between the "Plus" and "SFT" - the latter having a fixed periphery weight designed to prevent fade/slice ball strikes. On the surface, these seem a bit "gimmicky" to me. I'm really curious just how this feature will affect ball flight. I still tend to push more than pull shots and would love to see this feature work as advertised. This is something I will be evaluating and reporting on. My Fitting My fitting took place at the range and using the ES14 launch monitor. George had all of the available driver lofts and the four shafts. Both my Callaway GBB and my current Callaway Razr-Fit are 8.5 degree loft. Because I tend to still hit these pretty high, I told George I think the 9 degree would be a good baseline for me - he agreed. I started off warming up with my 6i and he used that to get some initial impressions of my swing and speed. He suggested the Alta CB Red in stiff, standard length. I hit the first half dozen or so shots well, fairly straight, and out just past the 200 yard marker. I then had a couple of hard pulls left. He switched me to the regular stiffness shaft and I again hit the first handful pretty straight and to about the same distance, but with higher trajectory. We then change from the neutral (0) to the (-) position - which changes loft from 9 to 8 degrees. I started seeing a bit more fade and contact marks out towards the toe. We changed back to the stiff shaft and with the same (-) setting. I was back to hitting more to center, with lower trajectory. He felt I could probably make either the regular or stiff work, but that I would likely see more accentuated pull and fade with the regular when I really lean into the shot. I asked about the other available shafts; (Project X Even-Flow, Tour, and Alta Distanza) and he said that except for the Distanza the others were more tailored for a player with much faster swing speed. What's Next OK Mr. G410 you’ve peaked my interest, but this is range time, not game time. What are you bringing to the course? Next up are some initial rounds with the Razr-Fit left at home – providing no emergency backup . Hopefully I can squeeze in another day at the range using their LM for some further fine tuning of the loft/lie and some head to head data against my Razr-Fit. We will then be heading back home to Montana where I have scheduled some time later this spring with a club fitter in Bozeman that has a ForeSight GC Quad launch monitor. My plan is to repeat the comparison with my current driver, but also get ball flight data using game balls. As the snow and frost clears, more rounds will be played ultimately seeing if PING's new “top gun” is better than my $60.00 Razr-Fit. Stay tuned for updates and Stage 2. Thank you so much for taking the time to read!
  25. 31 points
    Stage 1 First and foremost, thank you MGS Mods for selecting me to be an official tester for the G410 SFT. My name is Tony, I just turned 72 and even though I started playing after I retired, I am obsessed with this game. Prior to retirement I always thought golf was a silly game – after all, how hard could it be to get that LITTLE white ball into that BIG hole. Numerous times on the way home we would pass several fairways at our Club’s golf course and on those cold, or rainy days we would invariably see someone out there playing. My son and I would laugh and talk about those crazy guys out there – what could they be doing or thinking, playing golf in the cold or rain! And then it happened for some unknown reason my wife and I decided to start playing golf. It took one game for me to catch the bug and become obsessed with the game! We’re fortunate to live adjacent to a combined Marina and Golf Club with an Arthur Hills 18-hole Links course in northwest Ohio. It is a picturesque course adjacent to Lake Erie, with strong headwinds and it is also a qualifying course for the U.S.Open. These past few years have been a long journey. After being fit for G20’s, I took lessons from the head pro which was interesting to say the least, as he was telling me to do several things at once. It reminded me of that Einstein story of taking up golf where he threw 5 balls back at the instructor and said catch, the instructor responded I can’t do that – yes exactly! With those lessons in the back of my mind I went off to the driving range. The irons weren’t too bad, but my drives had a beautiful slice that from an aerial view would have made a fishing hook proud. Enter instructor 2 at a Muni. We worked on a lot of things, but he always focused on Position, Grip and Alignment. Several lessons later: the driver had become more of a fade with a too frequent slice, the irons were ok, and the chipping was a big improvement (due to lots of practice in the backyard). At this point my index is still in the 30’s because when the driver is working, the irons aren’t and vice versa. Exit this instructor as he decided to move to South Carolina. I found a new instructor, who immediately recognized a couple of issues and I started working on the improvements, including spine angle and a stronger grip. Now it’s a consistent draw. Not so bad since most of our penalty areas (aka water hazards) are on the left (remember I’m a lefty). In the meantime, my driver evolved into a GBB with an Aldilla SR flex shaft. With lots of work at the range, reading and playing as much as possible, my index dropped last summer to a 22 and I did break 90. Oh, and as a side note I was an Official Tester for W/S C300’s – thank you Mods! This past Fall, we got to play at our course until late November – my index did bump up slightly but only because there’s something about shivering in cold weather that’s not conducive to golf. Overall game evaluation 1-10 with 10 being best/most consistent Driver = 5 Irons = 7 Wedges = 9 Putter = 6 This past Winter I spent my time reading even more and watching instructional videos and when weather allowed, a few trips to a heated driving range. Since I was working on my swing, I intentionally slowed it down to around 76-80 mph (using my SC200) to focus on accuracy. With the slower SS I was getting a much narrower dispersion. I didn’t pay much attention to distance since it was cold, generally windy and the range was using their “winter” balls. Next step will be working on SS. Then the MGS Official Testing for the G410 SFT happened and I was lucky enough to be selected. My reason for applying was threefold: #1 gain more consistency resulting in a narrower dispersion, #2 distance, and #3 sound. Note: with my G20 I could tell by the sound when I had a mishit. On our course, the first two priorities take the penalty areas out of play for me, along with the potential for higher % GIR’s. First impression: With the GBB and SR flex shaft as background, and a prior fitting with the Ping G and SR shaft (which I didn't buy), I ordered the driver with 10.5* loft and the Alta CB 55 shaft in SR flex which is about 10 grams lighter than the Aldilla. The G410 also came with Tour Velvet grips. I’m a big fan of MCC+4 and with my XL glove size, I decided to order it with the orange option which is their jumbo grip. The driver arrived very quickly, especially given the “less than common” configuration of a lefty head and a SR shaft. The grip initially felt too large – but I did have a pair of FJ rain gloves on when I tried it. Putting one normal golf glove it felt fine. However, at some point I'll replace with the MCC+4. The head is what I expected with a satin finish on top. What was a nice surprise is how good the bottom looks with the red “streaks”. I never noticed that in the stores. It looks so good in the bag – I hate to put the cover over the driver. The head cover, however, is good looking and a nice improvement over previous Ping covers. The one thing that was a slight surprise, but only because I didn’t pay attention to the online description is that the weight on the SFT is fixed. In the scheme of things that’s not a big issue for me. However, if you want a sliding weight, you’ll have to move to the G410 Plus. The connector is easily adjustable, and the instructions are clear and concise. If you happen to lose the instructions – no worries the connector is clearly marked and has eight settings. Of course, the club did come with a wrench, however, I doubt I’ll be adjusting it once it gets set at the Fitter’s. Next steps; Get to a fitter to set the correct loft adjustment. My guess is that it’ll be either set at neutral or .06* configuration. While I’m at the Fitter, I’m bringing my GBB as well to do a “head to head” comparison. It’ll be my Ping vs. Callaway challenge so stay turned for that. Additionally, with 2 lesson certificates that my wife gave me for Christmas – I’m going to use one to further improve my drives. My expectations are that the 410 SFT gets me 7-10 additional yds. plus, a much narrower dispersion and looking for that 5 to move to at least a 7 or 8. . Let the battle of my drivers begin!
  26. 30 points
    TIME FOR AN ANNOUNCEMENT! Man oh man are these guys going to have some fun! This thing is so cool it won a MyGolfSpy 59 Award. Join me in congratulating the following 4 members who will be testing the ExPutt putting simulator: @cnosil @PMookie @cksurfdude @gavinski91
  27. 30 points
    Before I get any further into this introduction, I first want to say a big THANK YOU to Cobra/Puma/Arccos and MyGolfSpy. Not only is this one of the biggest and best testing opportunities on the MGS Forums, it is probably the best on any golf website out there! I am very honored to have been given the chance to compete this year. My name is Cody, and I live in the great state of Michigan! I was fortunate enough last year to be a tester for the Callaway Epic Flash here on the MGS Forums. If you want to know more about my background, how I got into golf, etc., feel free to check out my introduction post on that thread: It makes the most sense to talk about what is different from that original introduction these days. Well, for starters, I’m one year older and (maybe?) wiser. My dog is too, but she’s still cute! As far as golf-related changes go, I’ve been busy since the Epic Flash review. I played the most golf of my life last year, carding 52 nine-and-18-hole rounds, and hit thousands of range balls. Although I don’t maintain an official handicap because I play mostly by myself, my estimated handicap dropped to somewhere around 10-11 last fall, and I broke 80 for the first time in my life in August 2019. I started preparation for this year less than a month after the season ended. I purchased a squat rack for my basement on Black Friday and worked through a full Fit for Golf offseason program in addition to lifting heavy with the main compound lifts. While I’m no Bryson, I estimate I added about 8-10 pounds of muscle over the offseason. I also continued my work with my DIY SuperSpeed sticks and recently added a Tour Striker PlaneMate and the SuperSpeed-C club to my collection of golf gadgets. I started lessons in November 2019 with my current instructor and made an effort to hit range balls at least a few times each month throughout the winter to ward off rust. I am lucky to work within minutes of a championship-caliber course and one of the top-rated instructors in Michigan. I had not previously taken lessons, and they have been very helpful in improving my game. I’ve been detailing the progress in my game since last fall over here in this thread: And, here’s a decent swing video from over the winter with my Cobra KING F8 4 hybrid: Current Setup Driver: Callaway Epic Flash, HZRDUS Yellow 6.0, Black Star Sidewinder, 44.5” Length 3 Wood: Mizuno GT 180, MRC Tensei White Stiff, Stock Mizuno/Golf Pride Tour Velvet 19° Driving Iron: Tour Edge Exotics CB Pro Tungsten, UST Mayima Recoil 670 F4, Tour Edge/Lamkin R.E.L. 22° Hybrid: Cobra KING F8, AeroTech SteelFiber i95 Stiff, Black Star Sidewinder 5-GW: Maltby PTM Chrome, 1° Flat, KBS C-Taper Lite 110 Stiff, Red Star Sidewinder 54°, 60°: Maltby M-Series+, KBS 610 Stiff (54°), KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 Regular (60°), Lamkin Crossline Putter: TaylorMade Spider X Navy, 33", Golf Pride Tour Only Red Star Ball: Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow / Srixon Z-Star XV Tour Yellow Bag: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync Shot Tracker: ShotScope v2 Most of this bag has been built or modified by myself. I’ve swapped shafts in the 54 degree wedge, chopped the driver down an inch, and the F8 hybrid and Maltby PTMs were built in my basement over the winter. Other additions to the bag since last season come courtesy of @chisag (driving iron) and @yungkory (putter). My Game It is important to mention I play my golf almost exclusively at one course. The course is a short drive from my house, affordable, reasonably well-maintained and the owner is very flexible with my membership. Constructed in the 1960s, it is not long by today’s standards. I play from the back tees, which play somewhere between 6,100 and 6,200 yards and are rated 69.4/114. There are some easy and some challenging holes, and the narrow fairways (many are around 30 yards wide and bordered by trees) place a premium on accuracy off the tee. The large, push up-style greens have years of subtle undulations that can make putting an adventure as well. Lessons have been paying off, and as I write this part of my introduction at the conclusion of my baseline rounds, my unofficial handicap has dropped to 9.7. I’ve shot 80 or less eight times in 2020 already after only doing that three times last year. My Arccos baseline consists of 15 rounds from June and July and is an excellent representation of my game. I strike my irons reasonably well, and I can usually hit or get very close to a green from 150-and-in and two-putt for par or bogey. Driving and chipping tend to be my weakest spots, though my chipping has started to improve slightly recently following a technique change. My lowest scores usually happen when I don’t cost myself strokes with the big stick or around the green. From 150 yards out, I’m most likely pulling my Maltby PTM 8-iron (36 degrees loft). I rarely try to step on irons, although I could dial up a 9-iron (40 degrees loft) to that distance if necessary. My driving is erratic. I can go from barely hitting 230 yards one round to 280 yards the next. It’s the biggest work-in-progress of my game. Cobra Setup Driver: Cobra SpeedZone Xtreme (9°), 44.5", Aldila Rogue Silver 60 (110 MSI) Stiff, Lamkin Sonar Connect 3W: Cobra SpeedZone (15°), -3/4" SHORT, Aldila Rogue Silver 70 (110 MSI) Stiff, Lamkin Sonar Connect 17° Hybrid: Cobra SpeedZone, -1/2" SHORT, UST Recoil 480 ESX F4, Lamkin Sonar Connect 4-GW: Cobra SpeedZone, 2° Flat, -1/2" SHORT, KBS C-Taper Lite 115 X-Stiff, Lamkin Sonar Connect 54°, 58°: Cobra MIM Black, 3° Flat, -1/2" SHORT (54°), -1/4" SHORT (58°), KBS C-Taper Lite 115 X-Stiff, Lamkin Sonar Connect Bag: Cobra/Vessel SpeedZone Stand Bag Obviously, COVID-19 has affected global supply chains dramatically. Cobra has gone above and beyond in getting our clubs to us quickly and with most of our requested options. So, To Recap... Pretty sure I've checked all of the boxes here, so don't forget to vote for @edingc this week and join the winning team of #MGSCobra2020 #CobraConnect! Gratuitous photo and GIF usage. Cute dog and/or child picture. Calves! Want to be a winner? Join #TeamCalvesLikePhil right here on the forums, and follow me @edingc on Twitter and Instagram, over the next eight weeks as I climb my way to the top of this competition.
  28. 30 points
    Huge Forum News: We're 10!!!! As we were working on a recent project for the forums, we started poking around in the archives and stumbled on a really cool truth: the forum launched 10 years ago! There are some initial test posts from January and February, but forum kicked off in a big way at the end of February/beginning of March 2010. So we started compiling some of the history of the forum, including talking with some of our longtime forum legends. We pieced the story together and today, it's featured on the MyGolfSpy blog: https://mygolfspy.com/the-mygolfspy-community-forum-celebrates-10-years-of-golf-talk/ In conjunction with the 10th Anniversary Celebration, we've just launched a dedicated Twitter account for the Forum Community: https://twitter.com/ForumMyGolfSpy. If you're a SM user, go give us a follow. And go read the story and keep an eye on the forum in the next few days: we have some celebrating to do, and you're not going to want to miss it!
  29. 29 points
    I hope you guys don't mind me posting this. Most people would do it on Facebook. But I consider each if you friends more so than the 500 some FB says I have My mom passed away this morning in Pensacola, FL. She was 89 and had suffered with dementia the better part of the last 10 years. It had gotten progressively worse the past two years. I last saw her a year ago. At that time It was sadly obvious that She had no clue who I was or any recall of past events. She was put in hospice care at that time. The fact she battled it for another year is a testament to her toughness. She grew up on a small farm in MS with her father passing at a young age and a mom in bad health. At age 15, She pretty much raised her baby sister and took care of the house while still graduating HS before marrying my father a year afterwards. I was 10 and my brother 6 when my parents divorced. She worked full time and raised two sons, without us ever wanting for a thing Or going hungry. Well I never did get that racetrack set for Christmas that I kept asking for I owe every value I have to this day to her. She taught us how to be honest, account for our selves and treat others kindly. She didn't see color in people, she just saw the good in then. .. whee and when she was raised, that is actually damn impressive. I received many of my physical traits from her or her family, she had older twin brothers who were 6'4. During my adult years I visited her as often as I could. But not often enough. Yet she always had a full pan of lasagna, a huge baking dish of Banana Pudding and dozens and dozens of Chocolate Chip cookies. Like I said. We never went hungry. The timing really sucks. Obviously I and my brother and sisters can't travel there now. She made plans a couple years ago to be cremated. So that's what they will do. A family friend down there will hold on to her remais. When everything clears up, my siblings and I will meet in MS for a service and say our goodbyes. This was my last picture with her. Time and illness had taken a toll on her. But she still managed a smile. Rest in peace Mom. I love you.
  30. 29 points
    Congrats to our testers: From Georgia, playing the One Lengths: @bardle Playing backwards upside down, from New Zealand: @Nunfa0 Swinging Faster , from Wisconsin: @Bucky CC From Michigan, on the right side of the ball: @palvord Hailing from Kentucky, but not one and done:  @robertson153 _____________________________________ (5) COMPETITORS ANNOUNCED: #CobraConnect Challenge 3 The premiere event of the summer is upon us and it promises to be bigger than ever. #CobraConnect Challenge 2 was the largest test-related thread in MyGolfSpy History as five competitors battled it out through unique challenges over an 8-week period. The resounding success of that event, and a new line of F9 clubs has inspired Cobra to come back with a vengeance. 5 lucky competitors will receive: 1. Arccos 360 with Caddie 2.0 (to establish baseline numbers) 2. F9 Speedback Driver and Fairway Wood/Hybrid combo as desired* 3. F9 Irons (conventional or single length)* 4. King or F9 Wedges* *All with the #CobraConnect Smart Grips installed (new models available now) 5. Ultralite Stand or Cart Bag For those keeping score at home, this is a full bag of Cobra clubs (minus putter) with Arccos to track your data along the way. This is a serious commitment so think long and hard about the expectations before applying. We're seeking golfers who can play every week during the challenge, post regularly in the thread, and can be active on social media**. **Prior account not required, but it will be expected that those without establish a new account for the challenge This opportunity is open to ALL GOLFERS ON PLANET EARTH That's right, you read it correctly. Righties, lefties, men and women from all corners of the international golf market are eligible to compete. If you'd like to apply for this opportunity, post a reply to this thread only listing the following information: Name, Locale, and Rounds per year Social Media Accounts Handicap and Swing Speed Current Set Desired Cobra Set Please do not quote this post in your application Click HERE to learn how to increase your chances of being selected
  31. 29 points
    Testers Chosen! Testing the 2019 Callaway Epic Flash: @edingc @yungkory And testing the Epic Flash Sub Zero: @THEZIPR23 @sirchunksalot Full announcement posted here. 4 Testers Wanted First there was just Epic and it had Jailbreak, then came Rogue and it had new lighter Jailbreak, Flash forward another year and we now have Epic Flash and Epic Flash Sub Zero, both with an even newer version of jailbreak and newer lighter crown but most importantly a face that was created by Artificial Intelligence----there has to be a Harry Arnett vs. Chad Coleman joke in there somewhere---to produce ball speeds that make heads spin at the USGA to insure they are within CT limits. We all know how the USGA is about it's rules these day...but I digress. So with all that these two drivers have to be the best ever right? Or at least the best of 2019? The results of My Golf Spy's Most Wanted testing released just last week, showed the Epic Flash Sub Zero at the top of the list. And that's no small achievement, as 2019 has widely been proclaimed the year of the driver, first by our very own Tony Covey last fall and afterward by just about every reviewer with a camera and YouTube login. But we're going to give you, actually four of you a chance to find out for yourself just how good these two drivers are. HOW TO APPLY: in this thread - and ONLY in this thread - tell us the following: 1. Your first name and home state or province. -US and Canada eligible 2. Your current handicap and driver swing speed 3. Your current driver 4. List whether you would like to review the Epic Flash or Epic Flash Sub Zero Simple Enough...Good luck everyone, we'll chose our testers sometime next week!
  32. 28 points
    Too many people are being apathetic towards this. I'm probably one of the most apathetic people you could ever meet, but this is something that I take seriously. Look, the reality is that I have a decent chance to survive if I caught it, but that's not the issue here. The issue is people in my age group, with healthy immune systems, infecting those who are immune-compromised. Unfortunately as a society we don't think about others as much as we should, even our own families. How could you live with yourself if you infected a sick relative, and they didn't make it to recovery? My FIL is currently going through chemo for a stage 4 pancreatic cancer diagnosis. I'm absolutely terrified of getting him sick, and I wish more people were scared to get others sick -- even random strangers.
  33. 28 points
    STAGE-1 TESTER INTRODUCTION for: Official MGS 2019 PING G410 SFT Driver Review SUBMITTED BY: PING Apologist #9 Greetings Fellow Spies! My name is Robert and I am here to share my initial thoughts about one of PING’s newest driver models for 2019; The PING G410 SFT (Straight Flight Tech). First, I must thank everyone at MGS and the fine folks at PING Golf for entrusting me to test & evaluate the performance of this newest driver. It is a true honor and one that I take very, very seriously. I hope that my experiences with it will help you determine whether or not it lives up to the maker’s claims and if it will be worthy of your hard-earned dollars to consider buying for yourself. Stay tuned as I hope to answer both of those questions over the next several weeks. A bit about myself as a “golfer”. I live, work & play here in Southwestern Idaho, and though I’ve golfed here and there over the span of 30 years, I’ve never really considered golf as a serious hobby. But just over a year-and-a-half ago, I got the bug and started the journey with club purchases, constant upgrades and endless tinkering. Now I consider golf to be my “primary” hobby with fly fishing being a close second. My golf skill-set at this point is still mostly self-taught and I sit at a rather high and unfortunate 21 handicap. I’d much rather go out and play than practice most days, and this mentality probably holds me back quite significantly. My game strengths are chipping, wedge play, short irons and I love hitting my 3 and 5 woods. However, hitting driver is still an adventure for me. Even though I currently game the G400 SFT which is supposed to correct a slice (and why I chose it), my general shot shape is still a fade and my miss is the bad slice right. About 50% of my drives are “good” and travel 230-240-yds with a slight cut...Here's a "good-un"... Just like many, I really need to be able to make driver more of a consistent asset and not a continued enigma since I tend to use it a lot. I hit it on most par-4s & almost all par-5’s. I do not possess enough distance with my longer irons for those 160-190 yard shots (my true weakness) to avoid hitting driver from most tees. My 3 & 5-woods will save me usually when I need a 190-220 shot and sometimes I can get to some par-5’s in two with one of those clubs, but not too often. Plus, driver is just plain fun to hit! I need and want one that helps me have consistent distance and most of all, goes straight! After MGS declared the G400 LST as the Most-Wanted Driver of 2018 (https://mygolfspy.com/2018-most-wanted-driver), I knew I had to get into a 400…and pronto! That’s just what I did last August, and all though I didn’t fit into the (then) vaunted LST, the SFT model was a better suited to me and it remains my current gamer. So when PING announced the pending release of the new G410 line late last year, I was honestly a bit surprised. To me it seemed that the G400 series was cooking along just fine and really hadn’t been out long enough to be in need of any sort of upgrade. PING is constantly noted for their engineering prowess, and they too are also known for not just willy-nilly releasing new gear out to market “just because”. My first question I had for them when introducing this new line-up was “Why?” Was there something wrong with the G400’s?! Was an improvement needed so quickly???!! Their mantra has always been that a replacement line of golf clubs must have some true data to back up the fact that they really outperform the one they are intended to replace. This current paradox shall be the primary crux of my evaluation and I am very curious if this “improved” design does indeed give enough added benefits that are good enough to kick my beloved G400 out of the bag... But let’s be honest here. Ping hasn’t truly embraced the “adjustability” trend, especially with their driver, however this newest offering seems to have finally addressed that; especially considering other clubs in this same generation (like their newest G410 hybrids) now offer removable shafts and an adjustable hosel, where the same clubs from the 400 series did not. For driver they now have 8-way adjustability up from 4-way options before which did not include any loft settings. This is a leap in PING’s thinking, but is it too late and too redundant? Well, here is what PING states about the G410 SFT (https://ping.com/clubs/drivers/g410-sft “The G410 SFT (Straight Flight Technology) provides maximum fade and slice correction while delivering all the performance benefits of the G410 Plus such as a high MOI and faster ball speed. A fixed weight on the extreme perimeter and 50% more heel-side CG than G400 ensures straighter ball flights. A lighter D1 swingweight helps square the face at impact.” And this is what they had to say about the G400 SFT (https://ping.com/clubs/drivers/g400-sft “The G400 SFT (Straight Flight) is custom-engineered with more heel-side tungsten weighting and a lighter swingweight to help square the face and generate right-to-left shot bend (right-handed golfers). The multi-material design combines reduced drag and a thinner, stronger, faster T9S+ forged face to increase speed and distance. With a combined MOI over 9,000 and a deep CG, improved accuracy leads to tighter dispersion.” Are the G410 drivers better than the G400’s? Both descriptions sound very, very similar with the only exception being that the 410 has “50% more heel-side CG” than the 400 which you can easily (I hope) see below. Standard-issued swing weights are similar (both D1) and they both claim “faster” ball speed which is this year’s buzz term from everybody this year, or so it seems…. We shall see and I intend to find out if that 50% is the “shiznay” or just so much smoke. Just a day after I was awarded this honor, I set an appointment for a fitting. While my current driver was fitted to me, it was done so without the aid of a launch monitor. This time was to be my first foray into a hitting bay with a fitter. It was ugly. Swing speed was lower than I thought (only 90 at best) and I couldn’t seem to hit one straight to save my life. Add to that, they didn’t have a demo SFT head, so had to hit the “Plus” head with the weight in the “Draw-Bias” position which I don’t believe has the same “umph” for the draw-bias an actual SFT head does. Anyhow, I tried several shafts, and though the slices continued to rack up on the monitor, I settled for the Mitsubishi Tensei CK Orange in stiff. Regular flex just felt weird and I didn’t see much in the way of improvement, so I stuck to stiff which also will allow a more accurate “apples-to-apples” comparison between it and my 400. I had it cut down by ½” from the 45.75” norm which actually makes it a D0 swing weight according to my official PING "Birth Certificate". And I had the standard size GP Tour Velvet grip put on which suits me just fine... As for testing, I will put this 410 in direct competition with my 400, which may wind up being a bit of a battle... So, I will be gathering side-by-side data on the range with my basic launch monitor, shot scope app, in hitting bays with launch monitors and then game them and see if there are any differences at all between their performance. Most of all, I want to know if the added 50% of heel-side CG will help me have a more consistent and straight ball flight that is noticeably better than my 400... Strap in Spies and please send me any questions or testing ideas you’d like to see done. I will be happy to also share my "first-impressions" with you, just ask. I am here at your service. Please be looking for my Phase-II coming soon. Thanks for reading! Cheers all!
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    Some of golfers' favorite words: "It's in the hole!" "Split the fairway!" "You're dancing!" "It's dry." (OK, that last one isn't the best news, but if you're in those circumstances....) Let's add another to this list: "Pin high!" Who doesn't love the feeling of knowing the distance you've got, knowing you've got just the club for that distance, and hitting it exactly that far? We've got TEN forum members who are going to see if the SkyCaddie LX5 GPS watch is going to be the best tool for them to hear "Pin high" just a little more often! @AGutierrez7 @ballplayer002003 @JoshAndersonGolf @Josh Ross @knightsofnii @mikeanthony @MDGolfHacker @MrBandit @palvord @TCUFrog Let's send some congratulations to our members and stay tuned for their reviews!
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    Very proud of myself today. Shot a 39 playing 9 holes with 3 mates. New personal best by 6 strokes. My long game wasn't bad but my short game was on fire.
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    I’m Dave Hains, my friends call me “Hammer” and you know me here as HeadHammer or as I have recently been monikered - The Quiet Assassin. I’ve always been a fan of everything COBRA. As a young boy I was an honorary member of the COBRA Kai -Strike First, Strike Hard, No Mercy! My favorite TV show in the 80’s was COBRA, starring the very underrated actor Michael Dudikoff. My favorite movie role has always been Stallone’s portrayal of Lt. Marion “COBRA” Cobretti, who could ever forget the classic line “You’re da disease and I am da cure!” And, unlike the other posers in this competition, I have always been a fan of COBRA Golf, having owned & exclusively used their King Cobra irons for the last 24 years! So, when I entered this contest on a whim, I was ecstatic to be selected to participate in the 2020 Cobra Connect Challenge! I’ve been golfing on and off for the last 30 years, playing a lot in my younger years, not as much in my older years, in fact I’ve played over 250 different golf courses around the world. Unfortunately, as I’ve gotten older, my distance off the tee has suffered, and while I’ve moved up from the Blues to the Whites, I’m not quite ready to move to the old guy tees. The loss of distance has been the predominant factor in my elevated handicap. Which is why I’m counting on the improved technology of the COBRA SpeedZone woods & irons to improve my distance, FIR, GIR and my scores. What will I have in my bag for this challenge? A well rounded armamentarium of COBRA clubs that set me up perfectly in the predetermined competitions. Why should you vote for me in this challenge? Besides the fact that the new technology COBRA has bestowed upon me with the SpeedZone has already shown improvement in distance, 10-15 yards per club, as a high handicapper I have an advantage going into a number of the competitions. If you don’t think a high handicapper can win this thing, I’d like to provide the court with Exhibit: A, the winner of the COBRA Connect 2 Challenge - @FOZCYCLE. Coincidently, Foz started around the same HCP as me (17.9) and with new COBRA equipment brought it down to a 12! Finally, if new technology and a high handicap are not enough to get your vote for Team Hammer, well then, you should get on board because we have the coolest damn name and logo! #TEAMHAMMER. P STRIKE FIRST, STRIKE HARD............NO MERCY!
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    Sure, this meme was used already in this thread, and I'm not the only one who wanted to use it... But you know what... Hello Fellow Spies and welcome to my #COBRACONNECT CHALLENGE 4 Intro! First, I’d like to take a moment to recognize and thank our moderators for selecting me to take part in the competition this year. So, thank you Jason, Michael, Rob, and an huge thank you to Enrique for also being our point of contact with Cobra and making sure everything runs as smoothly as possible with the COVID-19 situation being what it is. Being a part of this competition is a once in a lifetime opportunity and I am truly honored to have been selected nominated as tribute. I won't let you down! I’m going to keep this as short and sweet as possible because we’ve already been through over 1200 posts of trash talking, juvenile and questionable meme and gif usage, and other shenanigans. But it’s now time to walk the walk. So, who am I? Well, my name is Bryan and I’m a nearly 33-year-old father of 3 who loves this game of golf for all its beauty and challenges. There’s nothing better than a pure struck shot that goes exactly where you visualized it, and nothing worse than knowing it’s all your fault when you can’t hit a ball that isn’t moving off the ground towards your intended target. I started playing golf as a 7-year-old and learned to play the game from my dad at a now closed 9 hole executive course. I started taking the game more seriously towards the end of high school and in college and now its grown to be my absolute favorite sport or activity to do with my free time. Here is an obligatory photo of myself with an awesome bag full of Cobra goodness followed by a clip of my swing: And of course as promised long ago in this thread a picture of my kiddo's as well (I think they're pretty damn cute, not sure how that happened - God bless my wife). So, where does that bring us? Oh yes! After 12 rounds on Arccos here are my baselines: My overall going into this is a nice even 10. Try to remember that in the event there is more math questions involved for you guys this year. The strength of my game is putting. I would say that my chipping feels undervalued here, as I have had many chips this year that resulted in short one-putts. Through the baseline period I have only 2 three-putts so I’m happy that I did not need to change out my putter for this competition. Everything else shows room for improvement. Driving has been OK at through the baseline period. I was using a new driver to me for the season and struggled early finding the center and while I have a lot of misses both left and right, I feel that was more a function of starting line and aiming left or right depending on the hole. I tend to not have a lot of curvature on my shots, but a few high right slicers happened too. I’m expecting to see that 20 yards average dispersion tighten up. Approach shots show a lot (39%) of my shots coming up short of the green. Needless to say, I’ll be doing my best to change that. Although there are a few holes where I play that going long is death and almost 100% of the time results in a three putt or worse. Chipping had its ups and downs to begin the season while I shook of some rust. I will occasionally chunk a shot or thin one long. Pay no attention to the little red dot below. Sand shots vary from bunker to bunker, but I don’t have a lot of shots to start the year. I can usually get myself onto the green to try to save the hole. Hopefully that trend continues! I’ve been hovering around an 8 handicap for the past few years and hope that with these new sticks and the motivation of knowing you all will be seeing my stats of the summer will help me get down lower into the single digits. Speaking of new sticks… Here are the high-tech surgical tools I’ll be using to dismantle my competition this summer. Driver: Speedzone 10.5 - Tensei Pro White 60TX - Set to +1* Draw Fairway: Speedzone 5-wood - Ventus Blue 8S - Set to -1.5* Hybrid: Speedzone 4-Hybrid - KBS Proto 85S Irons: KING Forged Tec 5-GW - PX LZ 6.5 Wedges: KING MIM Black 52.12 Classic, 56.10 Versatile, 60.04 Widelow - KBS 610 Wedge So now comes the fun part. If you’d like to vote for me and join Team B.Boston, please use my team hashtag #cuetheduckboats! Why #cuetheduckboats? Well, here in Boston we expect greatness out of our sports teams and revel in the opportunity to #cuetheduckboats for a parade after each of our team’s championships. This year our normal sports are being delayed, condensed, modified, or outright cancelled but I’m going to do my best to bring another championship parade to Beantowne! Be sure to follow along with on these social media accounts: Twitter: @BryanPluta Instagram: @pluta.bryan Facebook: I'm guessing you can figure out how to find me there by name at this point, but the Instagram posts probably have you covered. While the trash talk was fun, its now over. Time to get to work!
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    Print is dead they say. Sure, maybe it’s on it’s way out, but BLUEPRINTS are definitely not dead. My mantra of aim small, miss small, and my self proclaimed “Modern Traditionalist” attitude came full circle with these clubs... seemingly built for me. A technicians blade. A tool for shaping, carving, flighting, and painting the sky with pin point accuracy. Many of you know that I prefer looking at small compact “traditional” looking clubs. I practice with an old Kroyden 2 Iron!! I have a Callaway mini driver for my “driver”, a Taylormade TS 3 Wood (size of a lot of hybrids), Taylormade JetSpeed 2 Hybrid, the Bridgestone Wedges, and a regular old PING Anser putter. For me that gives me confidence. If I’m starring down at a giant balloon I get nervous. I’ll likely add a recent gen driver soon, I am leaving too much distance in the bag, and I’m looking to ditch the 3 wood for a G410 2 Hybrid.... the 2 iron is a 235+ club for me with a stock swing. I don’t have anything against anyone that plays GI or SGI clubs, my father in law is a heck of a stick with some big old shovels. I feel I will play better with something smaller.... guess we will find out!! Wow.... You have no idea of the logistics we had to plan out for this test. I cannot thank MyGolfSpy and PING enough. They were put out for delivery 2 days early to my new house while I was still in Michigan. I had to send my real estate agent to pick them up so they weren’t stolen or worse (someone else hitting them before me!), she gladly helped out. Extra Starbucks card in the thank you note for her! I went for a fitting after being contacted, I made 10 good swings on the mat, it was the same day I had played Greywalls, my swing was waaaay off. It wasn’t pretty. This was my first official fitting, and after doing it I can’t recommend it enough for anyone getting into the game, or even those of us that were/are stuck in our old ways. We had to use an iBlade head because he didn’t have the BLUEPRINT fitting head in. He recommended one set up but I knew that wouldn’t work when my swing was on, but I noticed something while testing out the Project X LZ shaft that I really liked. The peak height was lower than the KBS Tour X and the TT X100. And I was about 4 yards longer and way closer to center. I went with the 6.0 because I absolutely loved the feel of it, and the results were top notch! Probably could have went with the 6.5’s with my swing speed, but I didn’t notice anything in it. I didn’t think to take a picture of my swing stats, but I remember seeing 3-5° down and neutral to 1° out to in, and in to out on the majority of the swings. I know I was coming in a little steep that day, because I was over compensating for my block... Stock Grips, loft, black lie code, and standard length make up the rest of the clubs. The align grips are midsize and I don’t even notice the alignment aid. ... When I opened the box there were 2-PW, so you guys will get to see some stingers! Either a proper one or one that really stings. Yes... it is a small 2 iron. To be honest the last time I played full time with a blade was many moons ago. My current gamers are the Taylormade RocketBladez Tour, but not for long... I’ve ordered a Glide 56° to complement these irons for the test. (Mini review to come on that) If I like the 56° I will add a 50°... Ok, let’s get into the bread and butter knives. Forged 8620 steel [emoji736] Minimal Offset [emoji736] Narrow Sole [emoji736] THIN Topline [emoji736] Short Blade Length [emoji736] Sure does, smell, look, and feel like a blade... aside from blinding chrome finish. The questions: Do they feel like a forged blade? Can I shape, and flight them? Are they forgiving on mishits? Do I lose any distance over my CB’s? How will the extra bounce work? How low can I go with the 2 iron? (Video to come) Can I play the beat golf I possibly can with these? A few more pics to tide you over: Fire away on questions!!!
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    The Masters provided some excellent drama for us all. Tiger's first win in 11 years was a momentous occasion that was felt worldwide. Aside from the greater golf public, three special Golf Spies especially benefited as the first winners of #SpyStaffSlam of the season. Thanks to some improvements in the process, we're now able to release the full scoring spreadsheet for each to view their own ranking. I encourage anyone interested to download a copy to mine the data for interesting stats and charts. The link has been posted in The Masters thread, but here it is again: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RRiDBlLOeOQpB9jIKbyNsXvDbfW6qzXq-5l7Q-9izhw/edit?usp=sharing Before we get into announcements, here's some quick stats: 1150 Entries total making this year's Masters the largest #SpyStaffSlam yet. The Chalk picks of Rory, Kuchar, Poulter, Kisner, ZJ did quite poorly as a group but were pulled up as Kisner rose above the chalk curse by being a perfect in his Tier. As a group, Chalk finished at #608 on the leaderboard. Technically, "None" was the most popular pick for Tier 5. Apparently, reading is not fundamental. The Anti Chalk picks didn't fare any better; however, as they finished at #903 A perfect team would've been: Tiger, Xander, Webb, Oleson/Kisner, and Harding. Our winner had 4/5 correct!!! Speaking of winners, here's your honorable mention: 10) @TrippleBogie757 with $3,036,632 9) @curtis majeran with $3,050,571 8. @tbs0001 with $3,053,880 7) @dead aim with $3,144,591 6) @Sucina with $3,262,031 5) @David.lomberk with $3,361,311 4) @D_Golfer with $3,361,311 The margin was slim with a mere $300k separating these guys from 10-4. One different pick could've made the different and there was certainly room for improvement since 5 of these guys had invalid/none for Tier 5. Missed it by that much! Now, onto the prizes: 3rd/2nd actually came to a TIE!!! Both @GreasedUpStingers and @daviddvm picked the exact same team: Tiger, Xander, Cantlay, Kisner, Bjerregard for a total of $3,455,090. NOT ONLY THAT. Both spies picked -13 as the winning score. Equally close, equally PERFECT. You guys must be like soul mates or something. Wilson, being awesome as they are, has decided to give each of you both the 2nd and 3rd prizes: a D7 driver and a dozen golf balls of your choice. WOWZA. After the commotion of the co-runner ups has settled, time to announce our grand prize. With 4/5 perfect picks, our winner of ANY Wilson Staff Irons is: @Big Moody Winning Team: Tiger, Xander, Webb, Kisner, Mitchell for a total of $3,484,270 Congrats to the prize winners! Be on the lookout for a PM from me for fulfillment. If you didn't win, I hope you enjoyed the event. See you back at the PGA!!
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    Continuing the great fun from last year's contest, Wilson Staff is back with MyGolfSpy for the 2019 edition of #SpyStaffSlam. Be sure to watch each Major this year with MyGolfSpy and Wilson Staff for an opportunity to win prizes. First up, The Masters. Just like last year, some BIG prizes are on the line: 1st Prize: CUSTOM SET OF ANY WILSON STAFF IRONS (FG Tour V6, C300, C300 Forged, D7) 2nd Prize: WILSON D7 DRIVER 3rd Prize: DOZEN OF ANY WILSON BALL (Duo Pro/Soft/Soft Spin/Optix, 50 Elite or Zip) How to Enter: The players participating in The Masters have been broken out into 5 Tiers Log in via desktop or mobile to select your players in Tiers 1-4 using the poll provided (won't work in-app) Reply to this thread with your selection for Tier 5 (anyone not in Tiers 1-4) AND your prediction for the winning score (tiebreaker). Watch and comment along with the rest of MGS in THE OFFICIAL MASTERS THREAD Winning entry will be whomever that has the most total prize money won amongst the 5 players Deadline to enter is 5:00am EST on Thursday, April 11, 2019 Use that hashtag! The winners will be announced during the week following The Masters.
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    Some of the forum regulars know that I often post about my son Kirke. Kirke is five years old; he’ll be six at the end of December. He took up golf more or less from the time he could stand. He’s now at the point where we play regular rounds of golf. His course is built to the recommendations of US Kids golf; for him, nine holes runs right around 1,100 yards. We’re quickly running out of golf season here, and since the temps were supposed to get to the mid-40s today, I wanted to get in another round with him. And it turns out to be a round we’ll always remember. The sixth hole at our course is a par 4 for the adults, but Kirke plays it as his shortest par 3. We tee him up in the fairway, about 35 yards from the pin, which is a full 8-iron for him right now. One of the last times we played, I took a video of him hitting his shot from there. If you blow it up full screen, you’ll see the blue flag on the back left of the green, and his ball hit near the center of the green and run to the right. Today, the hole was back right. And before he hit his tee shot, he was talking about making a hole in one. And then he did it! He hit a beauty of a shot to the left side of the green, and then it started tracking for the cup. I’m yelling, “Get in the hole!,” knowing that it’s close, but also knowing that it’s hard to get the depth perception right from that distance. And then it disappeared! Here’s the great thing about having your little son hit a hole in one: it’s really easy to pick him up and carry him around in celebration! So here’s a video of him saying what he’s done, and then a video of him picking his ball out of the hole. We’ve got the ball, and my dad is planning to make a wooden plaque in the shape of the hole to mount it on. Obviously, I’m a proud dad today. I think we might have been the only people on the course today, but the course manager (who couldn’t be nicer to Kirke) was there, and Kirke got to tell him what he’d done. They let him off easy: he didn’t even have to buy a round of juice boxes.
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    The Ben Hogan Company started in 1953. It was well known throughout the company that there was nobody that expected perfection more than Mr. Hogan; to say he was iconic is an understatement. Today, I hope you are as excited as me, to watch these gents make Mr. Hogan proud as they test the newest clubs with his name on them. Testing the Icons will be: @Erik-M @downlowkey Testing the combos will be: @joen @deejaid @bens197 @Sluggo42 Hit 'em well gents! Just like Mr. Hogan did, we expect perfection.
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    TESTERS WANTED (9) Zip-a Dee-Doo-Dah, Zip-e-Dee-ay. My, oh what a wonderful day. Plenty of Zip Core wedges headed our way. Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-e-dee-ay! Please excuse the obvious song parody from such a classic movie. But that’s exactly how you may feel if you are selected as one of the nine testers for Cleveland Golf’s new Zip Core wedges. These wedges have a lot of technology going on besides the two extra grooves Cleveland has placed on the face. So yes, you will get more spin, but also more consistency. Testers Wanted We are looking for TEN dedicated golfers who will provide an in depth 4 to 6-week commitment to testing a Zip Core wedge in the loft of your choice. Testing is open to golfers who reside in the US. How to Apply In a post below, please provide the following information. First name/City State Current Wedge Played Loft You would Choose That's it, we'll be choosing the testers late next week, so check back to see if you have been selected!
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    Who wants to join me ( @GolfSpy Stroker ) and take a trip to ZipCity? These lucky 9 do! @artful_golfer @mr.hicksta @Reesedw @dhartmann34 @Shankster @tchat07 @BrownBearGolf @TBT @fozcycle Big congrats to these members as we'll be zipping shots back into the hole with the new Cleveland ZipCore wedge. First one to make a hole-in-one with one gets to buy the entire forum a drink of their choice!
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    In my time at MyGolfSpy (both as a member and a moderator), I think the request I've seen most often is to compare this year's Most Wanted Driver against previous year's winners. Until now, this wasn't something a reader could do by comparing the results pages, because differing years' tests were compiled with different testers and sometimes with tweaks in methodologies. Thus, as strokes gained number from 2019 couldn't be compared straight up to the same number from 2018. UNTIL THIS YEAR! That's a big announcement and it's going to be very interesting to see the outcome.
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    I'd never been fitted for any club in my bag, until yesterday. And I never, ever would have fitted myself into the specs I ended up with. I'm going with the long story version here; skip to the end if you just want to get to the point. Goals My hope this year is to replace my driver, for two reasons. The first is that I am a terrible off the tee (so it's gotta be the club, right?). Those who follow my single-digit-handicap thread know that last season, I was getting about 220 off the tee—and that that number represents about a 25 yard gain on the previous year. The second is that my current driver doesn't fit my current goal in building my bag, which is forgiveness. Ever since my G700 iron test, I've been working to make my club setup as friendly as possible for an average golfer. The Rogue SZ isn't known for being that club. I bought it for two reasons: it showed well in the 2018 Most Wanted testing and it was on sale on Callaway Pre-Owned. Fitting Attempts Initially, I had a fitting scheduled at 2nd Swing in the Twin Cities, to coincide with a trip I was taking there. That was canceled the week the world shut down. When that was canceled, I attempted a bit more formal home fitting. I currently own two Callaway heads: a Rogue Sub Zero, 10.5° a Big Bertha Alpha 816 DBD, 9.0° I also have three Callaway-tipped shafts: Project X EvenFlow Blue 65 Fujikura Speeder Evolution II TS 665 Aldila Tour Blue 85 And then I have multiple Callaway weights. Along with my SkyTrak, I figured I might try a whole bunch of combinations to find something that worked. I spent one Saturday hitting a bunch of balls, but it went terribly. One of the reasons I'm bad at driving is that I have no place to practice. My garage ceiling is too low to swing driver. I fear practicing outside, because pop-up drives are not unknown in my game. I absolutely don't want a drive that goes over the net in the neighborhood I live in. After hitting a bunch of drives with various combinations, my average looked something like this: That's pretty pathetic. I hit all over the face. The spin rates were very high; I was seeing shots in the upper 3000s with regularity. SkyTrak measures no head data, but I figured there was a very high likelihood that I'm hitting down on my drives. This explains the spin rates, the pop up drives, and the high launch angles. Given how poorly I was striking the driver, though, my inclination was to move from the Rogue SZ to the Mavrik Max. In every way, it looked like it was designed to help a poor schlub like me hit better drives. I was excited when Callaway announced their new distance-fitting program. My hope was to get a shaft recommendation from them. Given the numbers in my spreadsheet, it looked like my best shaft was the EvenFlow Blue, so I was looking for something similar for the Max. Looking at Callaway's shaft options, I had narrowed my options to about a half-dozen (mostly) mid-spin, mid-launch shafts, including the stock EvenFlow Riptide. After a couple emails back and forth (my local cell tower fritzed out the day of my scheduled call), it was looking likely that I would go with a pretty stock setup. A Local Fitting! Then I got an email from a course about an hour west of me: a Callaway fitting day! I called that day and booked a half-hour slot. The fitting was yesterday. I got to the course and got a couple buckets of balls, so I could warm up and Kirke could keep occupied. [Speaking of, how pretty is this?] I felt pretty good after my warmup swings. I was still waiting for my time slot, so the fitter built me a stock Max with a regular flex EvenFlow Riptide (I think it was the 50g version). And I couldn't find the ball. Small panic sets in. I am not a shaftoid (to use Mark Crossfield's term). I would not be able to tell you what my preferences are in a shaft. But I will say that the stock shaft felt very wobbly to me, and I was struggling mightily to make anything like reasonable contact with the ball. My biggest disappointment in the fitting was that it was being done with a Swing Caddie, rather than a Trackman or GC Quad. It was outdoors, which was a big plus: I can swing freely. But I was hoping to learn some of the numbers, especially the head data, that I don't get from SkyTrak. We began with a few swings from my current driver, and the numbers were worse than they were at home on the SkyTrak (I'm guessing a lot of this was due to the difference between a freer outdoor swing versus the cautious, don't-miss-the-net swing). My spin rate was in the upper 3,000s and my launch angle was around 20. My swing speed was just about where I would have guessed: 96-97. But putting all those together, I was carrying the ball just over 200 yards on the good shots. Not ideal, but pretty consistent with my on-course performance. When we swapped in the Max (he put in a stiff shaft), the spin number went up closer to 4,000, which is what you'd guess going from the SZ to the Max. But that's a totally unplayable spin rate. This became the mission, then: to lower the launch and the spin rate, to maximize the distance of the admittedly very imperfect swing I have right now. While I was fully expecting to go from Rogue SZ to Mavrik Max, the fitter decided to give me the Mavrik SZ. Eventually, he swapped in the 9.0° version of the SZ rather than the 10.5° I'm currently playing. Because of the roll of a driver face, because I'm hitting nearer the top of the driver, I'm increasing the effective loft. By lofting down, I'm counteracting that. I did have one shaft on my shortlist in the low spin category, thinking that it might be useful if the Max increased spin: the Aldila Rogue White 130 MSI. So we tried that, and kept seeing progress. The fitter went back into the tent and built up one more version, and that was the winner. I got my spin down from a high of 4,000 down to 2,700. My carry went from 205ish to over 230, with a launch angle around 15 or 16. I dropped my peak height from over 110 feet to a more reasonable 90 or so. So what was the magic formula in that last driver? Mavrik Sub Zero, 9° head geared down to 8° Heavy weight forward Aldila Rogue White 130 MSI 70g, in X-flex My jaw dropped when I saw the settings he had given me. I would never, in a million educated guesses, have even begun to think that these specs would work for me. That's a setup for the 115-swing speed crowd, not the middle-of-the-bell-curve hacker like me. But the rationale behind the decisions makes sense in hindsight, and the proof was in the ball flight. The fitter said he felt comfortable trying the X-flex with me because I have a fairly aggressive transition. That was interesting to hear, only because it wasn't something I had a good reference point to evaluate myself. This is a hybrid swing, but I can see the point he was making. I'm definitely not a "pause at the top" kind of guy. So there are plans in the works: I'm hoping to get my hands on this setup sooner rather than later. In the meantime, I'm probably gonna do some tinkering with the clubs I have on hand, seeing what I can do to drop my spin and lower my flight. Also, I am planning to work on my swing. I've got a Plane Mate coming. So there is a question: if I've got this driver so extremely tweaked to deal with such bad impact conditions, what happens if I get better? Here's my hunch: I think the shaft will remain just fine. If I begin to come into the ball with a neutral or even positive AoA, I should be able to loft the head up and move the weight back. So I'm not terribly worried about that. For now, I'm just enjoying the feeling of having my mind blown by the fitting. You guys know that I've never been anti-fitting, but just lacked opportunity. I can definitely add myself to the list of those who are now strong advocates of getting fitted if it's possible at all.
  47. 26 points
    Thanks man I never expected my own thread. Man I feel honored. Yep I was just easing into retirement playing gobs of golf and really getting into shape then wham!!!! Yep I had found me an old school course with good folks and funny thing about it is the fact it played well for me whether vintage or more modern equipment. Most of all I guess i was enjoying the ambiance and good folks. Have my own corner of the patio where I sit and smoke my cigar and drink my coffee watching the sun come up over the 9th and 10th holes. It has always been dubbed Stu's corner. Lately during the virus thing I have not been allowed to do that but staff told me to get a cart and sit where I wanted to on the course. I am not allowed to drive anything because of the meds I am on but my wife is going to take me over in the morning because I can sit in my corner again. And seriously at 63 years old I finally got some gray hair and the sense to go along with it and realize this time I can not push it like I used to. So I am exercising caution which is a new thing for me. But thanks again MGS is part of what keeps me going
  48. 26 points
    I don't know if many of you follow Tony (@GolfSpyT) on twitter but he's been blowing it up with the golf ball test. Needless to say, this test is going to really help in golf ball selection and prove that there are some SIGNIFICANT differences in golf balls out there. I, for one, find this test more useful for my game than the most wanted putter or driver. Look at the iron test...this is average carry and dispersion (sorry, I'm trying to figure out how to embed his charts on twitter): https://twitter.com/GolfSpyT/status/1114139033238736897 You have one golf ball carrying 189...and another 203.5!! 14 yard difference...that's an entire club! In other tweets, he mentions: The fastest golf ball off the driver (115mph swing speed) is the Snell MTB X. There's also a 5.5mph difference in golf balls among fast driver speeds (115mph)...that's a huge difference in carry yardage given all the other launch variables are consistent. Some of the golf balls are flying 40yds offline off the driver...and this is a robot swinging the club. Even with a perfect swing, your golf ball could cause you to miss the fairway...tell me if that doesn't mess with your head. Also, he's mentioned a lot about playing just one ball and sticking to it. While I never really thought about it, after seeing the charts he's posted, I'm ready to make a 6 dozen purchase of whatever ball fits my game and play it only from here on out. Case in point: I used to switch from TP5X in the spring/summer/fall months to a Snell MTB Black in the winter time but then when I would switch back to the TP5X, all my approach shots were flying the green. All my carry yardages, especially on the irons, had to be retrained. Thanks MGS...and thanks Tony for posting these snippets on twitter.
  49. 26 points
    I have always been fascinated by the science of golf, particularly the fitting aspects. I always wondered if my equipment was truly optimized for me and how I could ever figure out if it was. Over the last two years, I’ve dove head first into understanding more about golf equipment and the fitting process. My main source of information has been Ian Fraser and the Tour Experience Golf (TXG) youtube channel. Ian is a veteran of the golf industry who worked his way up in TaylorMade, then went onto work for True Spec golf, until Ian finally created TXG. TXG HQ is located in Toronto, Canada and is, alongside True Spec, one of the premier golf equipment fitters in the world. As Ian began to grow his youtube channel, I started interacting with him more, I became a Patreon Supporter to get additional access to him and his team outside of the youtube videos. I loved Ian’s approach to fitting and just how knowledgeable he was about everything. Our own Golfspy CG2 made the trek up to Toronto for a fitting he raved about the experience (and we got to watch most of it on the TXG youtube channel). I spoke to my wife and she agreed that for my 40th birthday (in 2024), we would go to Toronto and I could get a full bag fitting from Ian and I would be set on my equipment for a long long time. To hold me over until, I used things I learned from Ian, as well as direct recommendations from him, to build my current set. I felt like it was a good fit - but I still didn’t have that peace of mind from being properly fit from someone as knowledgeable as Ian. Well, it turns out I didn’t have to wait that long at all for a tour-quality fitting experience. I won the True Spec PGA Championship contest on Instagram, and with that came a free full bag fitting (everything but the putter) at a True Spec location of my choosing. The closest location to me is one of their flagship stores in New York City, so I called and made the appointment for June 7th. Knowing Ian had worked at True Spec, I contacted him and asked about what should expect and who I could potentially be fit by at the NYC location. He mentioned that he was good friends with one of their top fitters in NYC, Loren David. I contacted True Spec to ask who would be performing my fitting and they confirmed it was Loren. I was stoked. I knew that this would be one of the best golf experiences of my life. But it wasn’t one of the best - it was THE best. Fast forward to June 7th. I pack up my clubs, some sports drinks, and some trail mix and board the train for NYC. When I arrived at Penn Station, the weather was absolutely perfect so rather than get a cab, I walked to True Spec. I got some pretty funny looks as I traversed the concrete jungle with my Sun Mountain on my back, but being in New York there were far more interesting people walking around to take the attention away from me. I was going into this fitting with an open mind. I wasn't looking to replace anything in my bag just for the sake of getting something new. It was all about performance. When I arrived at True Spec, I took a deep breath and walked through the door. I was politely greeted by the receptionist and led to my hitting bay where I was told I could warm up until Loren arrived. When Loren arrived he introduced himself and we began small talk as he began setting up the GC Quad and his software. He asked about my game, my clubs, and what I hoped to get out everything today. I had to drop that I had been interacting with his good buddy Ian for almost two years now and what I had in my bag was in large part to the knowledge I gained from him. I mentioned that I had received the G410 Plus through MyGolfSpy and Loren said he knew Adam as well. Throughout the fitting, I learned that Loren knows just about EVERYBODY in the golf business. Ian Fraser, Adam Beach, Will Peoples, etc. If I named someone, Loren had a connection. We were also watching the ShopRite LPGA event on the TV during my fitting and Loren was rooting on some of his favorite players. I come to learn that he personally has fitted many of them since their high school and college days. We talked about Maria Fassi and her incredible swing and how he has worked with her for many years and thinks she will dominate the tour very soon. These types of conversations almost made me pinch myself. Here is a guy that fits professionals, top amateurs, celebrities and professionals from other sports (he fit former New York Yankee Mark Teixeira earlier in the week), and now he is going to fit me? Just crazy. So now, onto the good stuff - the actual fitting. Loren explained the process: we’d start with irons, then moving into gapping and the driver, and then finish with wedges. He asked if I had any preferences and I said that I was open to anything, but no Callaway products (that discussion is for another day). I hit my 6 irons enough so he could see my numbers and patterns and asked what I’d like out of my irons. I immediately answered “more consistency”. He agreed that I didn’t need any more distance and we would focus on precision and consistency. He went and grabbed 5 heads from the drawer and the Modus 120x shaft so we could start our fitting. We started with the Modus shaft in all of the heads because he knew I was familiar with how the shaft would feel throughout the swing, so it would help us identify which heads to focus on. The heads that he chose for me were the Srixon 785, Ping Blueprint, TaylorMade P760, Mizuno 919 Tour and Mizuno MP18 MMC. I started with the Srixon 785 and while it was good, it was very similar to the 765 and we just didn’t see anything that jumped out at us. The Ping Blueprint was next and man this was such a great looking and feeling iron - but boy was it small. I actually hit it pretty well, but it has such a sharp leading edge and the poor turf interaction was leading to inconsistent strikes. The Mizuno MMC put ups om great ballspeed numbers, but the slightly wider sole was not a good match for my extremely shallow angle of attack. We followed that up with the Mizuno 919 Tour and started seeing some much more consistent shots. Contact was better, and the 919 Tour advanced to the next round. The P760 had similar results, so it made it to the next round as well. Now that we were narrowed down to two heads, it was time to try some different shafts. Loren went to his irons shaft stash and brought back a Rifle 6.0, KBS $ Taper X, and an Oban CT 115 S and X. We tried every shaft in the 919 head first and it was pretty clear that the Oban shaft was going to be the one. I really loved the feel of the shaft and I could go after with without turning over left as much as with the other shafts. We tried the S flex as well, but while I seemed to get a bit more ballspeed with it, I lost some of the precision I had with the X flex. We then tried the P760 in the Oban shaft and the numbers just couldn’t match up with what I was putting out with the 919/Oban combination. Loren explained to me how Oban shafts were constructed, and their unique composition allowed for more precise weighting and frequencies (a club builders dream). They also allowed for more flex options. Oban offers an S, S+, X-, and X. Loren recommended that I go with the X- as it would give me the stability and precision I was seeing with the X, but a little more feel and ballspeed that I was seeing in the S. I was pretty damn excited. He took my final setup and went over to the loft/lie machine and bent the clubhead. I hit a few more shots and the consistency improved even more. He wen’t slightly flatter and stronger. Loren mentioned that because I have such a shallow delivery with the irons, he’d want to strengthen the lofts so that I would have 3 degree gaps in the long irons, 4 degree gaps in the mid irons, and 5 degree gaps in the scoring irons and wedges. After my fitting I was reading up on this and it turns out a lot of tour pros with shallower attack angles have their irons bent strong (Jason Day and Rory McIlroy to name a pair). Normally a customer would have hit driver next, but Loren wanted to see how the top of my bag progressed coming off the irons, so I hit my Srixon u65 Next. He commented that the 4 iron was an extremely situational club for me and he could see me benefiting from getting the 4ron in the 919 Tours, but then also sticking with the u65 4 iron and then swapping them out for one another depending on how my swing progressed (if I got a bit steeper) and how I wanted to utilize the 4 iron on a particular course (utility iron off the tee on shorter, tighter holes). The U65 was giving me good numbers across the board, so he felt comfortable sticking with that rather than going for a hybrid. The 212 carry also gave me a great yardage gap between my 5 iron and my hybrid. Speaking of the hybrid, when he pulled it out and handed to me, I said that this is truly the first hybrid I have had that I actually don’t dread hitting. I proceeded to absolutely pure six straight shots. Loren simply shook my head and said “there’s nothing we can do to give you a better club than that”. 147 MPH ball speed,14.6 launch, 3945 spin with 232 yards of carry. Baby draws. We switched out to the 3 wood next. I explained that I build the 3 wood and driver but putting everything I’ve learned about my swing and about fitting through Ian into these clubs and shafts. After 5 shots with my 3 wood, Loren said we would be wasting time and energy trying to find a better 3 wood for me. 153.2 MPH ball speed, 12.7 launch, 3489 spin, 249 yards of carry off the deck. Baby draws. With little time wasted, it was onto the big stick. As many of you have read in the forum review thread, I am in love with my Ping G410 Plus driver. I was curious to find out if what I thought I was seeing on the course was real. This was all about validation, and if it wasn’t validated. Well - after just 5 swings, we had validation. I was pumping out baby draw bombs with the G410 Plus. I went into the day thinking maybe I’d be better off with the LST head, or another driver altogether (Cobra F9 or TaylorMade M5 perhaps?) Well they didn’t even get a shot. Loren commented that he loved the Accra shaft I had in the G410 as I seemed to be timing it perfectly without much effort. When we looked at the data, all of the numbers were just about as optimal as you could get. 162.6 MPH ball speed, 14.3 launch, 1641 Spin, 298 yards of carry. Those are insane numbers for me. I knew I was seeing some bombs on the course, and these numbers validated why. We really liked this driver for me because while the spin was low, that was when I was hitting it slightly higher on the face so the spin would tend to drop naturally. If I tried to go to a lower spin driver, the spin would have been too low to provide a stable and consistent ball flight. This doesn’t mean I constantly carry it 298 (my normal carry is probably closer to 285 now), but my current driver gives me the perfect blend of forgiveness, spin, dispersion and ball speed, and the ability to really nuke one if I catch it right. Loren told me that I am in the less than 1% of people that he has fit that didn’t need even tweak the smallest setting on the driver or 3 wood. That was pretty cool to hear. He did mention that the swing weight on my driver was kind of heavy and I could shorten the driver to 44.75 to bring it down to 4.5, and that I wouldn’t really lose anything performance wise, but might gain a little more consistency. Once I got done admiring my driver numbers it was on to wedges. I mentioned that the wedge shafts I had were installed to match a previous set of irons I had, and I really felt that I was lacking in consistency with my wedges. We talked about different wedge shafts and adding more weight and he went and grabbed three wedge shafts: KBS 610 125, DG Tour Issue S400 and Modus 125 Wedge. With all of the wedge shafts I felt a much better weighting throughout the swing. The profile of the KBS didn’t really jive with me as it almost felt like I was swinging a sledgehammer - a little too heavy. The S400 felt better, but I just wasn’t timing it right and my ball speeds and carry distances were down. The Modus 125s were the perfect combination of weight and feel and really helped me deliver my club head more consistently. This was the one. Loren and I talked again about my shallow delivery, bounce, and lie angle and we settled on a 50 (bent to 49), 54, 60 (bent to 59) setup with slightly flatter than standard lie angles. The last thing we talked about was grips. At some point during my fitting I had mentioned that I have smaller hands, and while a standard grip feels great in my left hand, my bottom (right) hand always felt like I was having to really squeeze harder to get a good handle on the club. We walked over to one of the drawers and he pulled out the Tour Velvet Plus 4 grip and it just felt fantastic. I was able to put my right hand on the club much more naturally and with much less tension. Perfect. My head was spinning from all of the information shared with me throughout the day and I was probably grinning like an idiot the entire way home on the train. By the time I arrived home, I received my fitting summaries from Loren, as well as my fitting “prescription” and a full quote to have True Spec build everything for me. Loren was a class act from start to finish. He's one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet and his knowledge of the golf swing and attention to the detail during the fitting were more than I could have ever hoped for. It was truly a privilege to be fit by him. My wife and I went out to dinner that night and I walked her through my fitting and how it was the best golf experience of my life. She knew that if I ever god a proper fitting like this, my club-hoing days would be over. So that night we placed the order. Much to my surprised, I received an email from True Spec and FedEx on June 18th, less than 11 days after my fitting, that my clubs had been shipped. They arrived on Thursday, June 20th - less than two weeks after my fitting. Just unbelievable customer services right there. The presentation of the club in the True Spec box was top notch, just like the rest of the experience. I put my new clubs in my bag and just started at my entire setup. For the first time in my life, I had zero doubts about my equipment. No questions about fit. No worrying that I was leaving performance on the table. And I tell you what - it is a pretty incredible feeling. This fitting journey started with me learning more about my swing through my instructor, learning about equipment from MyGolfSpy, learning about the science of the swing and fitting through Ian Fraser at TXG, and culminated by getting fit by one of the top club fitters in the world in Loren David at True Spec NYC. I am truly grateful for everyone that played a part in getting my bag to where it is today. No more equipment excuses. It’s time to play some golf.
  50. 26 points
    Ping G410 Plus Driver - Stage 2 Review - jlukes It has been a great 6 weeks testing the G410 Plus driver. Over the testing period, I have played about 12 rounds of golf and had about 14 range sessions. I tested the G410 in every weight setting and every hosel setting. I tried to hit draws, fades, cuts, hooks, high bombs, low bullets and everything in between. I was able to get G410 on trackman and purchased the Arccos system that I had in play for the last few rounds. I made it a point to make this the most thorough club testing I have ever done. I hope that my fellow forum members enjoyed following along as I posted regular updates and answered questions throughout the testing process. I always enjoy forum testing for MGS, but this one was my favorite by far simply because of how much work I put into. Now onto the scoring... Looks Beauty is always in the eye of the beholder and everyone has their own preferences when it comes to how their golf clubs look. For me, the G410 Plus is a knockout. I always thought Ping turbulators were gimmicky, but I never spent any time with a Ping driver to really form a real opinion. Now that I have spent a ton of time with them, I love them. Yes, they provide some sort of aerodynamic properties, but where they really shine for me is how well they work as an alignment aid. The shape and size of the turbulators do such a great job of framing the ball. I have never had a easier driver to line up. I also have to say that I am glad that Ping decided to invert the Dragonfly Crown and “hide” it under the hood this go around. The combination of the turbulators and dragonfly crown on the G400 was a bit much for me, but G410 has a much cleaner look. The paint job is a beautiful matte dark grey and it is such a great finish to look at (and there are no glare issues). The red, black and silver color scheme is simple and clean on the underside of the club, and the implementation of the weight ports/track does not take away from the aesthetics of the club at all. Another thing that is often overlooked, but plays a huge role in how the club looks at address, is the size of the adjustable hosel. Ping has the cleanest implementation of an adjustable hosel in the industry. When looking down at the club, it is barely noticeable. The shaft seems as if it transitions seamlessly into the head. Just a small detail, but it really completes the look of the G410. Score: 10 (out of 10 points) Sound & Feel Having played composite-crowned drivers over the last 6+ years, it was definitely adjustment when I first started hitting the Ping G410. Heck, I wasn’t even sure I liked it. It isn't a bad sound like the Nike SQ, it was just very different. There is definitely a tingy-ness to the sound rather than the “thwack” you get with a composite driver. The more I hit it, the more my hearing adjusted to the sound and it became more and more pleasing. It is definitely a distinctly “Ping” sound, but it is a good sound. Feel is often linked to sound, but for me, the G410 felt softer than it sounded. That might not make sense to some people, but I feel that sometimes people associate loud with harsh, but that is not the case here. The G410 feels explosive. Stability is also a strength of the G410 as I found the feel of the sweet spot to be rather large. If you followed along with my regular updates, you would know that I don’t always find the center of the face. The feel and sound does differ a bit off low-face and heel-side hits, resulting in a more “thwacky” sound when compared to center and even toe strikes. For me, the Callaway Big Bertha Alpha was my favorite feeling/sounding driver ever. It felt explosive and had an intoxicating smooth sound at impact. How does the G410 compare? All I can say it is different. At first I was slightly turned off, but like one of those deep album tracks from your favorite band, it grows on you over time. The sound never once impacted how I would swing or my confidence in the club. Is it my favorite sounding driver of all time now? Honestly, it likely isn’t in my Top 3, but it still sounds good and feels even better. If I could separate the sound and feel scores, it would be 3 out of 5 for sound and 5 out of 5 for feel. Score: 8 (out of 10 points) Basic Characteristics Now that we have the vanity stuff out of the way, it is time to get into the nuts and bolts of the review. Performance. From the moment I had my initial fitting, I knew that the G410 was going to be something special. I have struggled with over-draws for much of the last 36 months and with the Flat hosel setting and weight in the fade position, I was actually able to hit baby fades. That is just not something I felt I could pull off with my current (and soon after getting the G410 on the course, previous) gamer. After I got the G410, I went to Club Champion to get some Trackman numbers as well as test shafts. I posted full details of that experience right here. What I saw on Trackman were ball speeds in the low to mid 160s and carry distances that were in the 270s and occasionally touching 280+. Those are lifetime best numbers for me all around. I was really really happy with everything I saw on trackman and couldn’t wait to hit some balls outside to see real ball fights. I spent a lot of time at the range for this review (twist my arm) and the more I hit the G410, the more I am impressed with it. I find the G410 to be low/mid spin and very easy to launch. The ball gets up fast and then flattens out for a very appealing flight. As I mentioned above, I tested just about every combination of adjustments the G410 had to offer and I found them all to make a noticeable difference. Loft down to open the face, flatten the lie, and put the weight in the toe and you’ll notice a drastic difference in flight than when you loft up to close the face, neutral lie, and weight in the heel. I played around with the settings to find an ideal setting for me and I have just about settled on the weight in the neutral position with the hosel set to the big minus sign to open up the face. This setting gives me a desirable baby draw with my standard swing and gives me the ability to hit a power fade if the situation calls for it. In terms of accuracy, the G410 puts out what you put in. I didn’t find any issues where a ball didn’t react in a way that wasn’t dictated by the strike. The ball flew where the face to bath relationship says it should have flown and that is really all you can ask for in any golf club. When it comes to forgiveness, I found the G410 Plus as stable and forgiving as any driver I have ever tried. Where the the G410 really impressed me was on ball speed retention on low face hits. Yes, I saw lower launch and higher spin on low face shots, but the ball speed retention was so good that the distance losses were more than acceptable. Heel and toe hits also produced above average results and I can’t think of one instance where I lost more distance or was more offline than I expected. Where I think the G410 really shined for me was the distance category, and more specifically, the consistent distances I was seeing. The G400 Max was an extremely forgiving driver, but it didn’t produce the best ball speed numbers. I feel as if the G410 Plus kept the stability of the G400 Max and added in ball speeds that allows it to compete with every driver on the market. Is it the longest driver on the market? No. It isn’t. However, that isn’t because of a lack of ball speed, it is because the G410 isn’t a super low spin head. I demoed drivers like the M5, Epic Flash SZ, and TS3 and while all 3 drivers would give me slightly longer drives on well-struck shots, they penalized me more on off-center hits more. As someone whose miss is a hook, super low spin can spell disaster on a mishit because it leads to ugly quacking duck hooks. While the G410 will never save me from a truly awful swing, I know that there is a greater margin for error. That greater margin of error allows me to swing more freely, resulting in faster swings and better drives. When on the range, I felt like I was in cruise control with the G410 in my hand. But we all know what really matters is how it performs on the course. Score: 19 (out of 20 points) On-Course Performance So as many of you know, I undertook a big swing change this offseason, which is still in progress. However this review isn’t a review of my swing or my struggles - it is a review of the performance of a driver. On the course, the Ping G410 Plus was everything I could want in a driver. Stable, forgiving, and long. I played about a dozen rounds over the last 6 weeks, most of them at my home courses, and I had drives that left me yardages into greens that I’ve never had before. Irons into Par 5’s where I am normally hitting at least a hybrid. Sand wedges instead of PW. Mid Irons instead of long irons. No matter the hole, the G410 gave me great results. I have only begun using the Arccos tracking system, but it has already showed me some great data. Even on poor shots, my drives are still going 250 yards, which is a true testament to how good the G410 is. I had two rounds where a really struggled with my swing, but even then the G410 produced relatively great results. I mentioned above that I seemed to get good results off strikes low on the face while at the range. That proved true on the course as shots where I felt like a nearly missed the face entirely still traveled 250 yards, or about 88% of my average distance. My fairways hit have been around 40%, but that number is more indicative of my swing struggles than the club itself. For me to be carrying drives in the 270s consistently is really something else. Unfortunately I don’t have any hard data to show what my tee game was before the G410, but I know my max carry was in the low to mid 260s and I needed some good roll out to 300. Now I am seeing my really good drives carry almost 280 and even with the wet conditions we’ve had in the North East I have seen several drives crack 290. On dry days (but before I had Arccos), I had several drives go over 320 yards (measured with GPS watch). That is just absurd for me. I cannot wait to get out of this wet spring and hit some summer fairways with this bomber to see what new parts of the course I can explore. While my scores may not have improved yet, mainly due to the swing changes and iron play being worked on, I have no doubt that the added distance and consistency will eventually lead to lower scores. All of the strokes gained data that MGS publishes shows that distance is king. Hitting longer drives, leading to shorter approach shots, which in turn lead to closer proximity to the hole, is the single most efficient way to improving scoring. Seeing what the G410 has done over such a short period of time, even while I go through the growing pains of implementing my swing changes on the course, makes me believe that the G410 will absolutely be leading me to lower scores. I will continue to update this thread as my time with the G410 continues to show just that. I mentioned in my Stage 1 that I had never gamed a Ping club before. I always had a perception of Ping that wasn’t quite favorable: I thought they were weird and gimmicky. Testing the G410 shattered that perception for me and made me really gain a appreciation for the Ping engineering team and what they look to accomplish when they create a club. I gained so much respect for Ping that I even tried out the G410 fairway wood at a local multi-vendor demo day and to my surprise the G410 LST 14.5* beat out every fairway wood on the market for me and earned a spot in my bag. So I went from no Ping clubs in my bag ever, to two Ping Clubs in the top of my bag. I won’t lie - Ping firmly has my attention and I will be giving their clubs a shot at earning any spot in my bag going forward. The G410 Plus is a great step forward from the G400 series. At the time of this review, the LST head has just been announced and I can definitely say that while I want to try it, I am not sure how good of a fit it will be for me. I really enjoy the stability and predictability of the G410 Plus and wouldn’t want to sacrifice any of that for a few extra yards. I really don’t see anything I would change in future iterations. If they Ping engineers could fine tune the sound a bit more, it would appeal a bit more to the masses, but that is really the only major improvement I could see them making. From the adjustable hosel and the movable weight, to the way the turbulators frame the ball, the G410’s feature set all serves a purpose. I love that Ping fine tuned their hosel to add flat lie setting for better players, and the weight ports absolutely influence the closure rate of the head. I hope Ping sticks with the adjustable weights and I wonder if they are already looking at what else they could possible do with them. We know they will never add adjustability if it means sacrificing weight placement and performance, so I am not sure how much more they can tweak this design. It would be cool if they could offer a front/back weight tuning similar to the Cobra F9, but I am not sure they’d be able to do so while maintaining the weight distribution they desire. Score: 29 (out of 30 points) Miscellaneous I have always heard how customer-service oriented Ping was, and this testing proved it. We received our drivers extremely fast and mine came to the exact spec that I ordered. The packaging was more than acceptable from a protection standpoint. Another thing I wanted to call out is the cost of additional weights. I wanted to experiment with a slightly different swing weight in both the G410 driver and the LST 3W I purchased. The price of the weights are noticeably cheaper than competitors’ weights. The Ping driver and FW weights retail for $18 and $13 respectively. In comparison, Cobra F9 Weights are $25. Titleist TS2 weights are $25. Just a great price point from Ping. In MGS’s write-up of the Ping G410, they mentioned that Ping redesigned the headcover to be a bit heavier so it would would not blow away in the wind. While I normally use my own personal headcover for my drive, I did bring the Ping headcover to several range sessions and rounds and can confirm that it definitely doesn’t blow around as easily as other headcovers. Not something that would make or break the driver, but just a pretty cool detail from Ping. Score: 10 (out of 10 points) Play it or Trade it? Considering the G410 Plus knocked my Titleist TS3 driver out of the bag in less than two weeks, it should be no surprise that is is now my full-time gamer. I truly believe that the Ping G410 maximizes my overall tee game and my game is better for it. The LST version of this head does intrigue me. Did Ping simply create a lower spin version of the G410 plus, maintaining the stability and consistency of the G410, but in a lower spin? If so, that head could potentially change my tune. I did win a full bag fitting from True Spec Golf, so it is only a matter of time until I find out just how good of a fit the G410 is for me. Until then, it isn’t going anywhere. I believe the G410, due to all of its adjustability, will fit an extremely wide range of golfers. We already see tour players using the G410, and there is no doubt that 20+ handicaps could game the G410 as well. Throw in the SFT and LST heads and Ping has created a line of drivers that literally fits every golfer. I believe the $499 price point is right in line with where it should be. $500 is the going rate for a new premium driver, and that is just a fact of life. The G410 is the total package and is appropriately priced. Can someone find a used driver from 2017 or 2018 that performs close to the G410 for less money? Of course they could. But if someone is looking for a new driver in 2019, the G410 should absolutely be at the top of the list to try. Score: 19 (out of 20 points) Conclusion So if you’ve made it through the entire review and reached the conclusion, you already know what I am going to say here. If you have skipped to the conclusion with hopes of getting a quick recap, you’re in luck. The Ping G410 Plus driver is simply the most well balanced driver I have ever gamed. It gives me great ball speeds and fantastic stability that result the best drives that I have ever hit. Throw in the adjustable hosel and weight ports and you have a driver that can be customized to fit just about any golfer. A driver should give you confidence the moment you pull it from the bag, remove the headcover and set it down behind the ball and for me the Ping G410 Plus does just that. I am excited to have the G410 Plus as my driver moving forward and will continue to post updates throughout this thread as the season progresses. Final Score: 95 out of 100 points
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