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Decided to retire my 2019 PXG 0211s with KBS C-Taper Stiff. Went to a fitting looking for more loading and feel and got set up with the Cobra ForgedTec X with KBS Tour Lite shafts. 92mph 6i swing speed and with the Tour Lites got better feel and numbers with the Regular flex instead of Stiff. That was a bit odd to me but numbers don’t lie. Biggest drawback with the loft jacked X’s will be going back and reclubbing my bag. The 5 and 6i X’s were giving me same distances as my current gamer 3 (19deg) and 4 (22deg)G410 hybrids. So will probably need to take out hybrids, add an extra wedge and maybe a 5 or 7 wood now.

I just accepted the fact I have to shoot the flag 3-4 times. I really wish it was a little better for intermediate targets as well but just have to use phone gps to get a rough idea and have a ballpark what I should expect to see in the rangefinder.

I have been using the Western Birch hardwood tees. I’d say unless I lift it out off the drive and can’t find it, I’m usually 1-2 tees/round. One might crack after a few drives which then I’ll break it off and use it for par 3s. Usually I just look for broken tees on the Par 3s to use. But overall they are very durable and last.

I live in South Florida. Summers get almost unbearably hot and humid and rates are cheap so I ride then for the extra shade. Winter months rates get ridiculous. For example my home course fee triples from $30 summer riding to $90 in the winter. (Some of the other courses I like to play hits $130 ish). Walking my home track knocks it down to a more tolerable $65. Can’t beat that for a winter rate. With the better weather walking is nice in winter. I will ride though when my work expense budget pays for the round

Have a scheduled fitting on March 10 for new irons. Currently gaming 2019 PXG 0211 COR2 with KBS C-Taper 120 Stiff. Still a mid handicapper so looking to stay in the Players Distance category. Not really married to any particular manufacturer. All I do know is that I do tend to favor the slim line minimal/traditional type aesthetics. More of my interest lies in shafts how graphite, Steelfiber, or the new Axiom hybrid feels. I’d like to keep the stiffness but drop some shaft weight I think. My biggest concern is how my swing will be at fitting since I’ve been down to playing maybe once a month if I’m lucky.

Been gaming the prior model Tour for a while. Love the ball. Recently picked up 2 doz of the 23 Tour and just played 6 rounds in Phoenix a little over a week ago for WMO. Almost identical performance for me. The 23 tours did feel slightly firmer and seem a few yards longer off the tee to me. Maybe going to from the 85 to 95 compression helps there (108 SS), or that was just due to the thinner more dry air playing at 1200’ elevation in Phoenix compared to sea level/dense air at home in Florida. Irons/wedges/putter really no noticeable difference to me. Still love the Maxfli Tour and will continue to be my gamer!!

Hope you have a bunch of personal photos….”16 Shenanigans” photo book sounds like a #1 best seller golf retirement read!!

Thursday Round 1 was crazy windy! Had to go to 16 to actually warm up in the sun. Our official post was 3rd deck looking at 17th green. Yesterday wind was even worse! The amount of shenanigans there is insane. Unfortunately (or fortunately) missed the streaker. IMG_7835.MOV

I'd go down 1 size from your US size. I'm a 10.5 in just about everything else but a 43 (the 9-9.5) in ECCO. But if you really want to be certain use the instructions they have to measure. https://us.ecco.com/explore-ecco/guide/mens-size-guide-shoes.html?gclid=Cj0KCQiAic6eBhCoARIsANlox87Q8TGU1ULQhlNtvbr2pzKDLQ0vWXyzDA7Ghchd2LA_9-W_1Bqi8_0aAq-iEALw_wcB When I measured my foot like it said on the Ecco link, I measured 10.875" so that fits right to their 43.

Well I've been quiet for a while. This was the first time I've touched my clubs in over 2 months. So I had no expectations heading right to the course with no practice. Of course I watch of a lot of online tutorial videos since I haven't been able to play. It could be good I forget some bad habits or it could be bad I have some of these video tips in my head. One I took to the course was a a tip for consistent ball position at setup. I played my home track (69.7/119) from the gold tees which plays a little under 6400 yds. It's a deceiving course even though there isn't much sand, the course is well protected by sawgrass. Greens are well protected on both sides and long. So if you're not in play, it's easy to rack up the strokes. .Shot 45/42 tying my personal best 87 with only one triple, 2 doubles, 8 bogeys and 7 pars/GIRs. That was with 6 penalties and even missed a couple 3-5 foot birdie putts. I will say I hit a lot more pure shots than bad shots with woods/irons. Hit more fades on the range as I implemented my new setup routine (usually more draw biased). Get out on the course, aim to play the fade and wind up hitting the draw. Setup more anticipating my draw and hit the fade. So played a lot on the edge of the fairways/rough. Hit a few 280 bombs with best drive hitting 300 yds (flat course not downhill) but 4 of my penalties were off the tee having no good sense of what ball flight I'd hit. Only missed 1 par 3 green which is a PB. My biggest struggle was wedges 50-100yd out, was thinking too much about setup and the ball position most often catching it thin in this range. Chipping recovery was on fire having 3 chips stopping within a foot of the hole for a one putt (33 putts total). So overall had fun and really happy with the outcome after the 2 month hiatus!! I just hope it's not another few months before I can get out again.

I can see how from TV East lake seems boring. It's a pretty straight course. But if your not playing from the fairway it can be punishing as we saw yesterday. I will saying having been there in person for the last 2 years, it is an excellent course and setup for the fan experience. Easy to watch range warmups, follow your favorite player/easily walkable, and players are pretty easily accessible for autograph seekers post round. There are some great location/seat setups for the VIP experience. The 15th green was a blast. Never been to Wilmington or Southwind so can't comment on those courses. Minor tweak, what about just rotating between Wilmington, Southwind, and East Lake like College Football playoffs do with the BCS bowl locations?

+1 I just don't like Cantlay. He's just such a goober. I'll be up there but won't be able to stay for the Tourney like last year . My coworkers will be there all weekend.

@Golfnut0226 I have a 58 with 12 deg bounce and already very versatile with pretty good chipping control. Moreso talking spin on full swing wedges and approaches.

I used to game the Tour B X. Loved it off the tee but for me little too much run out on the green. Next up was the prior gen CS XLS. Again very good off the tee. It was a fine balance for me around the green with the older XLS. The softer/more wet courses I play in Florida I’d lose spin and still get more roll out due to the moist conditions and not as solid face contact with the stickier grass. if you have already a high trajectory with your spin, than you can give up some ball spin. If you have more of a natural lower trajectory, then a V1X, CS X Snell MTB X would help. But sounds like if you may already have a natural higher trajectory like me and high spin. So I tend to now lean away from the X balls. I actually lost distance with V1X, CS X, and MTB X with too high trajectory and spin. based on the MGS reviews I gave the Maxfli Tours a shot. Like MGS and many others found, for me they play exactly like the ProVs. I’m a believer now. I started with the Tour X with the higher compression as I’m also 105-108 SS. Same performance as the V1X/CSX/MTBX. So I gave in and gave the standard Tour slightly lower compression a shot. I was a little nervous with the slightly lower compression. For me again I think the play just like the ProV1s. That’s my new gamer. Love the Maxfli Tour! Can’t beat the price tag either. The mid launch is awesome. And just enough spin off wedges/approach irons I get 1-3 feet release from landing pitchmark on the green. The biggest difference is they don’t pop of the putter face like the firmer balls do so learning to adjust the feel and speed control. I haven’t hit much of the 22 CS XLS but that would have to be my secondary ball. BTW if it were retail, the left dot hands down for a low launch low/mid spin premium ball. But so hard to beat the Maxfli Tours for the value. Just picked up 4 doz for $105.

I live in Florida as well so I hear ya. That’s when when I was originally fitted my fitter suggested going mid road 10 deg bounce on everything (Callaway standard S grind). Once I refined my short game technique I was able to dial in more on what I desired from bounce and grind and now I’m into Mizunos. like RevKev described I’m overall a 16 Hdcp but my short game according to Arccos playing more around 7-8….I struggle out of the tee box

Here’s what I think he’s talking about. I think it’s at the 2:48 mark. https://youtu.be/GXX61LiW0Qg

That is most likely more related to your swing rather than the club loft/bounce. Stance could be too wide, ball too forward at setup or hands not getting ahead of ball causing you to scoop under the ball and hitting it higher off the club face.

I went with the Mizuno T22s for the wet spin performance since I play mostly in a very wet and humid area. never tried any of the full /hi toe wedges. Usually you want low bounce when taking full swing or playing from tight lies and/or dry grass. I use a 7 deg bounce on my 50 gap wedge with a full sole since I take more 3/4 to full swings with that from 110 out. My sandy is a 54 deg with 8 deg bounce and my lob is a 58 deg with 12 deg bounce that has a little bit more of heel and toe grind to give me the versatility around the greens and from softer or thicker grass. The grind relief with high bounce allows you to manipulate the club face more open/closed and still have access to the bounce resulting in less digging in turf with the leading edge. If your not sure exactly sure what you are looking for a 10 deg bounce with a little sole grind is your good all around best bet for different lies and softer turf. Definitely recommend a wedge fitting.

Great drill that helps with tempo as well

A long time ago I used to use a little forward press trigger move but felt like a was deloftjng and closing the club face too much with that and let it go. Could be worth revisiting and playing with.

Well maybe that’s part of the reason I’m not a very good player I’ll keep you posted if and when I ever figure out a good trigger for me. Thanks for that nudge!

@RickyBobby_PR Right now I pretty much do the Justin Thomas "preview takeaway" once or twice before starting my swing and don't really have a trigger to be honest. Just thinking about it I can see how the JT style can give me the arms dominant takeaway feeling. I do like the clubface check that it provides. I'm not really looking to implement a trigger move but moreso looking at establishing that lead shoulder feel I got from the Wolff trigger/takeaway and making sure I get that feeling as I go through preview takeaway/waggle so it's not so arm dominant. So yes I would practice that impact trigger to lock in the feel into my routine. My question in the OP really is to see what feel others favor when starting their takeaway, how they start and if they use a trigger to get there.

I'd be curious to hear about your range experience if you give it a try. I know I'll have to remind myself it may be uncomfortable and will take numerous swings to truly get a feel and not just ditch it after 2 or 3 swings if I don't like the feel. I can see how with short shots chips starting from the ground up as you're trying to limit shoulder movement and really get that hip/torso connection rotation. With longer clubs trying to keep that same "short shot from the ground up" mentality I feel like It's easy to forget that lower/upper body separation and the shoulders get left behind. I wouldn't add the Wolff trigger into my on course swing either, but rather just use it in dry practice to get that lead shoulder/torso connection and upper/lower separation start feel.

I was recently just messing around with my “air swing” and played with the Matt Wolff “trigger” which goes forward to impact position first before initiating the backswing. A light bulb went off for me. The biggest differences I felt were a backswing initiated by the lead shoulder, feeling a better connection with my torso and ultimately what feels like a wider/deeper more complete turn from the hips (back to target) with trail shoulder going back and up. It made me realize previously I was initiating backswing too much with arms focusing on trying to go straight back to stay on plane (I’m a Single Plane Swinger) and limited my hip rotation/turn. I guess I was just getting lucky all other sequences caught up or I was compensating some other way in my swing when I did hit good shots. But overall I’m still inconsistent. I can’t wait to hit the range and see if this new swing start feel helps with consistency and better impact. I’ve seen several opinions on initiating backswing with lead shoulder, trail shoulder, hips…so what say you? How do you start your backswing and what’s your “trigger”?

I'm a tweener as well on the low side of high SS in the 105-110 range. I have a naturally high ball flight so I always tried to steer towards the low/mid launch and spin balls. For a while I was playing the Bridgestone B X which I loved off the tee but not pleased with the rollout I'd get on the greens so then I switched to the CS X LS last year. Gave up a little off the tee but better control but still wanted more out of short game spin. Based on MGS reviews, went to check out the Maxfli. Started with the Tour X as I was a little skeptical of the lower compression of the standard Tour. The Tour X had too high trajectory and spin for me and I actually lost about 10-15 yards off the tee. Short game was nice but still just really firm feeling. Finally gave in and gave the standard Tour CG a shot and played them the last 4 rounds. LOVE this ball. Brought trajectory down more in line what I was looking for off the tee and really nice feel off irons and short game. Dropped some 290-300 yd bombs and was able to drop and stop in the short game. Tour CG is my new gamer moving forward.