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  1. 20 hours ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:



    American Fork Utah

    I currently walk the majority of my rounds, maybe 1 in 10 I will get a cart if I’m with buddies.

    I typically rent the push cart provided at the course I go to most often. They are super cheap to rent, and good quality, big 3 wheel carts. With a writing dashboard and a cup holder and mesh basket. Not sure of the brand, there ~10 years old I think.


  2. On 11/3/2020 at 6:05 AM, russtopherb said:

    "Well, the pros say to do this..."

    Well, the pros can practice 8 hours a day. I have one course where I can practice my short game when I can, which isn't all that often. Maybe a few hours per month if I'm lucky. So I'm a big fan of chipping with an iron and getting the ball rolling as soon as possible to prevent skulled & bladed chips. Take all the variables out whenever possible.

    That’s a really great point! Wouldn’t it be nice to just always play private courses for 8 hrs a day and have that luxury? Man that’s the life. 

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  3. On 11/2/2020 at 7:36 AM, Kenny B said:

    An 80 year old friend of mine in Florida showed me the 7i bump and run shot when I first took up golf.  Worked OK in Florida on his slow Bermuda greens, but it's never a club that I would use here in Washington.  Our greens are poa annua or bent grass and generally quite fast.  Any club longer than a PW will run to the other side of the green if chipping from just off the green.  I find it difficult to judge how far the ball will roll out using an iron.  If I'm close enough I'm putting, otherwise I'm using my 60º for for most all shots.  I know how far to carry the shot into the green because I practice with my 60º all the time.  I have several shots with different trajectories that I can use depending on where the hole is located on the green.  When I need to go over a bunker, it's the same shot for me.

    Whatever club you use for chipping, the key is to get used to the shots you will likely encounter on the course and practice them.  Practicing them is NOT hitting 6-8 balls before heading to the 1st tee!!!  The biggest reason players don't use a LW is they don't practice with it.  Carrying a LW that you never use and then expecting to pull off a shot with it when you need to is a corollary to the "definition of insanity".

    Haha that’s a great point about the definition of insanity! 😅 I had a sand wedge in my bag for a while that I never practiced with and it got nixed and pulled out so I could put a club I use/like more 

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  4. Jacob/ American Fork, Utah

    12.5 preferred but usually that’s not an option so a 13.

    FootJoy sport LT

    Most important to me are three things. I want to like the way it looks on my foot at address. I want it to be comfortable walking 18, and I want it to be form fitting and to mold over time to my foot (like a basketball shoe) so there’s no awkward empty spaces that cause my foot to slide around. Although I’m a 13 I often end up buying a 12.5 if they run small for the third reason. 

  5. On 11/2/2020 at 4:24 AM, Hoyoymac said:

    Some people really struggle with chipping and putting despite the fact that they are the shortest swings and require very little physical strength or athletic ability.  The frustration of a missed chip or putt is often magnified because many people think chipping and putting is inherently easier than the full swing so there isn’t the same emphasis on learning good technique or practicing. 

    I have witnessed a number of people struggle so much with the mental pressure of chipping and putting that they develop a physical flinch which is commonly called “The Yips”.

    Since more strokes in a round of golf are made on and around the green than anywhere else it is my contention that if you want to improve your handicap quickly, then working on chipping and putting will lead to a faster result than anything else.

    Chipping is my most improved skill over the last few years and the part of the game that I now have the most confidence in.

    After struggling for years with a lack of confidence around the greens and experimenting with different clubs and methods, I was lucky enough to have a lesson from a veteran teaching pro who showed me an old school method of chipping that really clicked.

    My wedge set-up includes a 48, 52, 56 & 60 wedges.  The clubs I use the most around the green are my 60 & 56.  

    The method I was taught was to put the ball in line with my back foot with a stance fairly open to the target and my weight forward towards the target. Then I deloft the wedge by moving my hands toward my front thigh which puts a lot of forward shaft lean in the stroke and then close the club face by rotating the shaft slightly before regripping the club.  I then make a simple back and through stroke with little to no wrist action and an emphasis on an equal or longer follow through than backswing.  I keep my hands well forward of the club head throughout the swing.  The face of the club hits the ball with a descending blow and pops the ball slightly in the air, up and over the fringe, then rolls to the hole usually checking up after the first or second bounce.

    Imagine the feeling of pulling the handle forward with your hands toward the target instead of trying to push the handle forward.

    Earlier this year I read Dave Pelz’s Short Game Bible and he teaches a very similar technique but explains the theory and technique much more thoroughly.  I strongly recommend his book.

    To get the ball to fly higher and stop more quickly don’t lean the shaft forward as much and take a slightly longer swing.

    I use the same swing on most chip shots and just change clubs to get more distance and roll out.

    The common mistakes I see from my playing partners are:

    1. Taking too big of a back swing and then decelerating coming into the ball.

    2. Using too much hand and wrist action and trying to help the ball into the air.

    3. Trying to fly the ball all the way to the hole. 

    4. Having the bulk of their weight on the back foot instead of the front foot.

    The results from these mistakes tend to be inconsistent distance with lots of duffs and skulls.

    The best golfer I play with putts from off the green almost every time.  He is unbelievably good at judging the required pace.  He does this because he doesn’t have confidence in his chipping.  He calls me “Mr. Chips” because from the same place I will chip most every time now because I don’t have confidence in putting from off the green.

    So, use what works best for you.  If putting from off the green with a putter or a hybrid or fairway wood works better for you then do that.  If a specialized chipping club like the Square Strike club works better then use that.  If a 7 iron works better then use that.

    The goal is the fewest strokes to get the ball in the hole.

     As my friend says, “The good thing about the game of golf is that the score card doesn’t record how you got the ball into the hole, just the result.  There aren’t any places on the scorecard for pictures, so don’t worry about how you look getting the ball into the hole.”


    @HoyoymacI’m glad you said that. What you do is the exact same shot that I learned! (I think my dad was tired of watching me skull it over the green haha). Like you said it’s Basically a really delofted putting stroke, lined up on my back foot, weight and hands forward  with a 52-60 degree depending on how far I want the ball to carry over the rough stuff. Honestly it’s such a fun shot! I love taking 20-30 of those on the practice green after the driving range and I can always sink a few.  And then when I want to pop it up a little and get some backspin I pull back a little further and follow through with a good swift stroke and whip the club head. I’ll for sure check out that Dave Pelz short game bible. Thanks for the tip!

  6. On 11/2/2020 at 12:12 AM, Buffly said:

    @Jwilson95 it comes down to what people get more used to and score better with. 

    The 7i bump and run is a true chip more than a lofted wedge which more of a true pitch. 

    My definition of a chip is a stroke that is mostly like a putt with little to no wrist action to limit the distance in a controlled manor. 

    My definition of a pitch is a shortened stroke, when compared with a full swing, to carry shorter distances than full swings but, carry farther than a short chip and, usually has some form of wrist hinge. 

    Semantics of chip or pitch don't matter but, the execution of those two shots is very different. I can understand why a weekend golfer, who doesn't practice much, would feel more comfortable chipping a mid iron instead of pitching a lofted wedge - the shorter stroke has a lot less that can go wrong. 

    But, a bump and run is lie dependent. You have to be able to land the ball in a place that will allow a long run out. 

    The lofted wedge will not run out as far so, you can land closer to the target. The rub comes in making a partial swing of different size/speed to create different lengths - another struggle for some. 

    I play both the wedge and bumps whenever I want interchangeabley - mostly just to keep myself entertained and fool around with variety. 

    50 yards out to a front pin - I don't think anyone is going for a 7i bump and run pitch shot. But, a back pin with a big green and coming from under a tree - every time.

    Close to the green is where I can agree with bump and runs more than high loft - I'm talking about less than 10 yards off the green. Using a putting stroke, a simple mid iron chip will clear alot of the rough and roll up to the pin with little effort and a short swing. The higher lofted wedge would need a bigger movement to go the same distance which can bring the dreaded skull across the green into play. I've even chipped with my fairway wood when I am on the fringe to bump and run. 

    That's why I love golf - lots of ways to be creative and have fun. 

    That was really well said! 

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  7. I learned to hit a chip shot at a young age with my 60 deg wedge from a dad that took his wedge game seriously. He’s a Vokey guy and by the holy customs of hand-me-down, I am too. I carry a 52, and 56 and a 60. Now I’m not sure how new this idea is, but I keep running into guys, whose coach/trainer say something like this: oh those high loft wedges “are really just for the pros” and anyone who seriously wants to improve their score should just do a simple bump and run with their 7 iron whenever possible and not even bother with a wedge. 
    Thoughts on that? 

    I mean I love chipping from inside 50 yards. It’s the only shot where I really feel I have a somewhat reasonable chance of sinking it from outside the green. And when I hear this argument it makes me think maybe people don’t have enough confidence in their wedges? 

    I guess I’m probably missing something. I’m definitely not trying to put anyone down here and most guys i know that use the 7i bump and rub can kick my 🍑. I’m just about every aspect of the game. For someone who loves wedges, is there someone that can give me a deep dive into this trade off? I’d love to hear what y’all have to say. In short what would be the pros/cons to bagging my wedge and going with my 7? 

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  8. Hey, new here. My dad and I have been hitting the course since I could walk. He’s both my coach and my most frequent companion on the course. My old man is 60 yrs old and a scratch golfer. He keeps me humble. However he just broke his arm (near the shoulder) mad after 8 tedious months got clearance to start back at golfing. I’m coming in here to look for tips people may have re coming back  after injuries and playing into old age for him. As well as building a consistent all around game for me

    I’m 25 and looking forward to a helluva lot more golf ahead of me than I have behind me. 

    I played golf in my childhood and teen years then got distracted more by other sports in high school. Doing that I built up the muscle and flexibility to really be able to crack the whip on my swing for a high club head speed. I can get some good distance and love my driver, woods and long irons. Now I’m looking to get consistent with them and hit some fairways for once😅 and maybe get it on the green in regulation a couple of times a round 🤷🏻‍♂️

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