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A bit of a rookie question, especially considering I've been playing 15+ years. I've always played a ball with a bit less spin (old school Pro-V1x and then Bridgestone B330) but in coming back to the game a year ago, I've gravitated toward a ball with a bit more spin (Bridgestone Tour B XS) for increased greenside control. Something I've noticed is that the XS has a lot more curvature in flight than other lower spin options (AVX, Vice Pro Plus, Tour B RX, Tour B X, new ProV1). Does the XS' higher spin result in more side spin also or are they completely different?
Looking at the 2021 MGS Ball Test, driver spin rate varies only by 100-200 RPM and by 700+ RPM with the 8 iron between the XS and the lower spin options, which doesn't seem like much on a <7 second flight. Makes me think it isn't ball and just me, but I had to be sure before searching for a different ball.
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Hey all, just picked up a Diamana TB 70S for my 917F2 4/5 wood (17.25*) and looking forward to hitting it this weekend. My understanding is that this is in essence a blue board (mid kick, mid flight, mid spin) shaft which is what I've been looking for. After a quick search across the forums, I didn't see anyone post their experience with this. Anyone have experience with this or any of this lineup? What'd you like? what'd you dislike?
Link to the manufacturer info: https://www.mca-golf.com/products/diamana™-tb-series
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On 6/15/2021 at 9:38 AM, M. Parsons said:
My SonarTec 3W is the longest tenured club in my bag, at approx. 11 years. It was given to me by my brother-in-law, who said it was his favorite club ever, but he stepped in a hole that he didn't see and used this 3W to catch his fall...snapping the shaft in half. So, all I had to do was put a new shaft in it. There have been many times that I've thought about upgrading this club, but every time I go to test other 3Ws, they just don't perform as well. Oh and my brother-in-law had put lead tape on the back, from the middle stretching to the heel, and I've just never removed it. I've recently thought about going with a more weighted shaft as I feel this one is too light for me now, but I just don't want to mess anything up.
Good luck finding the right one for you!
What model SonarTec do you have? I used to play the GS Tour and loved it. Absolute rocket of the tee and predictable off the fairway. Man I miss that club.
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A bit of old and new. Proforce V2 (purple and gold) and the white board for driver. Graphite YS7+ and the blue board for fairway.
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4 hours ago, dlow206 said:
That sounds messy. How did the set end up with different shaft stiffness, are there actually different brand/model shafts installed in the iron set?
No clue…the stickers on the shaft all show S300, but when I took it into the shop to get my grips changed out, the guy said he’s never seen anyone play with different shaft flexes in their irons before and was asking why I decided on doing that…and I just gave him a
. Come to find out, some of the shafts had a CPM showing regular, while some were showing x-stiff. Explains why I was gravitating towards certain irons and avoiding others during a round (choke up on an 8 iron vs hitting my 9). Don’t know if the brands are actually different.
Weird thing is the serial numbers on the iron heads all match up.
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When getting back into the game after a long hiatus, I purchased a set of used MP-60 irons that seemed to be in pretty good condition. After playing a few months and getting the cobwebs off my game, I've come to realize the irons are all over the place when it comes to swingweight, length, loft, lie, different shaft stiffness, etc.
I've heard that Mizuno offers a service where you can send them your irons and they'll "rebuild/refit" them to the correct specs, for a fee. Does anyone here have experience with this? or can share any ideas on best approach to square things away? Considering this route or selling off for someone looking to tinker at home.
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Can I get a Veteran and Broke 70 badge please?
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4 hours ago, BostonSal said:
I wouldn't be able to live with that 4:15 rule, Rev, just out of truculent resentment to it.
Memberships, even senior weekday ones [only golf is limited to weekdays], are too expensive for that level of autocratic tyranny.
But we don't have it here at our club so no problem. And we can usually just walk on as far as weekday mornings go.
In response to another post on this thread, I don't think that private courses are predominating over public courses due to a shift in preference. I think it's due to a shift in demographics.
The working class golf explosion that took place in more prosperous times has clearly begun to diminish, and golf is reverting to a more elitist game again. If I were young with a young family and the expenses that go with it, I can't begin to imagine playing now as I was able to play back then.
Interesting thoughts here...in my case, I suspect that in a way to improve financials at the club (private), they ran a 'no initiation fee' special for a half the year while implementing green fees for all member levels (i.e. my membership level included unlimited green fees 7 days a week but turned into green fee + cart for all 7 days, on top of the monthly dues). The no initiation fee special resulted in a large influx of new members in 2020, which was the desired effect but many of the new members very very new golfers and some relying on the club's rentals for the first few months resulting in a downturn of the general. To your point though, not sure what the new member demographics were though.
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15 hours ago, Pat Snr said:
Lucky to play at a private club which has 4 championship courses & over 3,000 members. We have 4-4.5 hour rounds and marshalls on the courses to ensure pace of play. Every day is competition day. Dress regulations are strictly enforced, in particular shirts with collars, no cargo pants and no caps on backwards and no hats/caps in the clubhouse. It is a golfers club with 20%+ members off single figures, 5% off scratch or better. Everything is focused on GOLF so it also has awesome practice facilities… all this for $4,000 US pa
Sounds like the place to be to get beaten into submission until you get your game up to snuff!
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On 9/12/2021 at 4:28 AM, 6 Aces said:
Along these lines of public vs private: Taking a trip back to Eastern PA and taking my clubs. I found 23 private, 4 semi-private and 14 public courses with 20 miles around the Downingtown area. It was hard to find any public courses with both current and good reviews, but I finally settled on Wyncote which has both. According to my wife's relatives there, most everyone they know who plays golf belongs to a private club. I imagine the population density there can support the number of private clubs present. Oregon's population is 4.3M within 98.4 Th Sq miles while PA's population is 12.2M within 46.0 Th Sq miles. Here in the High Oregon Desert we can't find 250k people, but we have 23 private and 10 public courses within 20 miles of one another; and all 10 public courses are 4-5 star rated. Sounds like I'm bragging, but I'm just relieved. Welcome to my world. Our courses are also supported by 1.5M visitors every year who come to enjoy all the recreation opportunities available to them.
That's an interesting point/stat...the shift in the golfing community to private clubs vs public. With the number of private clubs greater than public, there must be a demand for it. Wonder if the private club demand is increasing and outpacing the number of golfers on public courses.
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7 hours ago, Beakbryce said:
Semper fi buddy. I retired USMC in 1994.
Not sure how you would classify a military course. I guess semi-private. In any case, play Luke AFB course 2-3 times a week all year round. Also live in a maturely aged golf community with 3 18 hole courses. Only play there in the summer because the rate in the winter isn't worth it and we walk at Luke anyway for exercise.
BTW- we play as the first or second group and usually 3 hours or less. Maybe you have a military course close to you? Check it out as you don't need to be retired anymore to play, as far as I know.
As an aside, my golf cart looks like a jeep and is USMC colors.
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Semper Fi!
When not deployed, I frequented Camp Lejeune’s Paradise Point. 2-18 hole course where 1 was open to all military and guest and the other was military and guests with an established handicap. Best private experience ever. Fast rounds, great condition and everyone did their part to keep things squared away. I’m going to have to take a look around my area for any on base course!
That’s a sick jeep/cart!!
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1 hour ago, funkyjudge said:
The vast majority of public-access and municipal golf courses in my area (Eastern PA and Central/Southern NJ) are well-maintained and provide a good challenge and test of golf, so I primarily play these courses. I occasionally get the opportunity to play private courses, and if they are good courses and the folks I will be playing with are cool, I play these courses maybe 6 to 8x per year. I will also travel up to 1.5-2 hours to play a great course, but I am fortunate to have plenty of quality public courses within a 20 to 30 minute drive from which I can choose, so I only travel those greater distances to play golf with buddies of mine who live nearer to courses that are further from me.
I also play on a winter golf tour, and the mix of courses that we play on that tour are about 65% private (some very exclusive private courses) and 35% public. The opportunity to play some of these exclusive private courses is a major motivating factor that prompted me to join this winter tour a few years ago (and the prize money and skins potential doesn’t hurt, as well).
Semper Fi, Brother Marine!
I might have to come up to PA! Lol sounds like you have a ton of quality options up there!
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40 minutes ago, 550025 said:
I'm fortunate to have been a member of various private clubs since 1980. This year our club decided to increase our already hefty dues by another 30%. I moved over to a nearby semi private club (with 10 other members) and couldn't be happier. We kept most of our Saturday group together and saved a ton of $$$. The savings gave me a chance to take 2 bucket list golf trips and more are planned. I'll stay semi-private.
I’ve actually been considering this recently as there is a highly rated semi-private within 20 minutes of where I live, but looks like they have a waitlist, so I might have to visit as a non-member for a while and scope it out more
Glad your situation resulted in an optimal position for you and your group! Where were your bucket list trips?
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2 minutes ago, Dokex said:
I think that members at private clubs blame the less than ideal conditions on non-member outing play, instead of taking pride in the upkeep of the course.
So true..but in this case, I’ve no doubt that the issue were the members. Lots of the members (definitely not all) were the bad apples that just didn’t care to repair divots, rake bunkers, etc. Maybe they thought their membership dues would take care of all that for them?
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Definitely not my favorite, but a hole I NEED to play again. 3rd hole at the Pete Dye Challenge at Mission Hills Country Club. Played in a 2 day tournament in 2005 and was awarded a 13 on this hole. Needless to say, I didn't win a skin there nor was I in contention for anything...to top it off I had the pleasure of answering the dreaded "what happened there?" question. One day, I'll have my revenge. #stillabitbitter
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2 hours ago, DiscipleofPenick said:
I play public, but I buy a season pass to a course about 25 min from home. The pass works out so that after about 22 rounds it's paid for. This is the only way I can afford to play as much golf as I want. I try to play plenty of other courses through the area, just certain ones are really tough to get tee times at.
Also my course usually isn't first on anyone's list, I know I can get early tee times and play quickly in the mornings.
There are a few courses in my area that offer season passes. I might have to check that out.
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I recently signed up then cancelled my private club membership after 6 months when I realized members didn't care to repair divots, rake bunkers, destroy practice areas, and monopolize tee times (just in case they decided to play)...all to say, not a good experience. And the pace of play was not any better than any public course (5 - 6.5 hours when stuck behind the wrong group, thinking they're playing on tour).
With that rant aside, where do you all play? Public vs Private? Same home course all the time? Rotation of courses in and around your neighborhood? With a club/consistent group of folks?
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some strong arguments for the ping vault has me reconsidering now.
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Just because Tiger won't even let Charlie play with the putter...but any other club in the house, I want it...
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On 8/20/2021 at 10:15 AM, Tsecor said:
Trying to decide between the BXS, BRXS and BRX for my next test. They all have some great qualities but the BXS, although not designed for my game, seems to check all the boxes from a data standpoint....Testing the CSX this coming week.
I actually went through a similar test you did over the summer, looking for an alternative to my current gamer (BXS). Almost all aspects of the BXS is great but there are times where it spins too much, especially on fuller PW. Also, I've noticed that the BXS is a bit harder to control off the driver...for me...occasional backspin like crazy (>3000) and cuts and fades are really hard to control.
Combine the spin rates of the AVX from tee to fairway, trajectory of the ProV1, spin rates of BXS out of the rough and around the greens, and feel of the AVX...aka unicorn!
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The relationship of distance and speed for lower compression balls and swing speed...eye opening...Goes against the "bro science" of low compression = less distance and more spin...just depends on how fast your hitting it.
I'm with @vandyland...my driver links up with the high speed but my irons are decidedly on the mid speed category. I'll just take that as I can play from both categories...I gravitated toward the Tour B XS (it did most everything I need it to do without sacrificing the feel that I enjoyed) but might need to check out the Tour B RX...seems like it could help with the occasional "super spinner" drives.
Thanks to the MGS team for the test and the thorough write up. Such a great read..and it's clear a lot of thought and effort went into it!
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TM SLDR with a Matrix Ozik white, playing at 45.5”. There were rounds where I couldn’t hit a fairway and some rounds where I struggled to just stay on the hole I was supposed to play, but on that rare occasion when the planets and stars aligned…it was a low spinning, high launching missile.
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11 hours ago, scooterhd2 said:
Buy a yard stick. Practice at home.
That’s the 1 training aid I own and use with my 6 year old daughter! For a moment, I wondered if this was making me more “steery”. TBH…These days, my daughter has been straight out beating me in our race to 15 consecutive down the ruler…I may have to stay up after she goes to bed to get some more practice in
Diamana TB Experience?
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Guessing not too much experience or interest in the shaft, but for the few that might be interested, here’s the low down
From a conversation with a reputable fitter, this shaft is supposed to be the bee’s knees, very stable and consistent. In playing with it this past weekend, I’d have to agree. Very predictable ball flight, when I want to hit it high, the ball is high, when I want it low, it goes low. Only time the shaft caught me off guard was when I tried to step on it a bit. The shaft was a bit “slow” to coming around and left me with a slight push. Very possibly me just getting too quick or something but this isn’t an issue with the white board. Now…there really isn’t a reason for me to step on a 4/5 wood, as it’s more of a position club vs a distance club, but you get that itch once in a while.
Overall great shaft and this set up (917F2 18* @ 17.25 w/ Diamana TB 70S) is definitely a weapon I’ll keep in the bag for a long time.