[Shaft Hack - The Otto Phlex Journey]

On 10/19/2022 at 9:24 AM, azstu324 said:

Technically no tipping this time. I had already cut a half an inch off for the driver project but decided to just go with the standard trimming and it worked out great! 

 

Follow up as i am learning about shaft trimming. Are you stating you cut a half inch off the tip end already from the Driver project or was that from the butt end?

I have the GWX on my 3 wood and i do like it just feel like possible tightening the whippyness a little. Same as my driver. As spin rate seems a little too high. Driver around 2800 and 3 wood 3800. 

Also did you decrease the loft on the 3 wood like in the driver or left standard?

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Want to provide an update:

Been able to use multiple simulators now. Golfzon, Trackman, Full Swing.

I am a member at a Sim with Full Swing so it is my most used sim (3-5x a week and play in a league). Id say on average my backspin on my driver on Full Swing is around 2500-2600 ball speed around 155-165, with my drive mainly being baby draw to big draws. No really any slices except more pushes/ push fade. Of course had drive that were in the 3000-4000 spin rate. Club head speed here showing 108-115

Trackman I was able to play one session. Mainly getting spin rates around 2600 again but had some drive going 265 carry with 3200 spin rate. Ball speed around 160. Few drive with spin rate around 1800-2200 but those were more low drives.  Club head about the same as Full Swing (108-114). Id say playing mostly a draw but some fades rather than the push on full swing.

Golfzon id say average spin rate was showing around 3000, feel like i couldn't get below 2800 on my drive. I have played this sim about 3 time with the OttoPhlex. Carry mainly going 265-280 on those 3200 spin rate drives. Club head speed id say was about the same and same as ball speed. Just seem to be playing more Fade/slice and small draws. 

 

For reference gaming the GPLB A 45g cut down to 45in playing with a TSi3 set to 9.25 degree D1.5. 

 

Small test of the GPLB GWX in the PING g425 3wood playing at 43in, felt goo just maybe need to cut down and might want it a little stiffer. Only tested on Golfzon but want to test on full swing and trackman as well. 

 

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So I order the GPL GWX as I plan to test this out in my 3 wood as well. 

What would you recommend the cut length be for the 3 wood, the same I play it at or a little shorter? 

Also, just a general question/advice. If I want to start working on the shafts myself where should I start to learn what to do?

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18 minutes ago, azstu324 said:

Usually if they're not busy, you can easily milk 2 hours out of the 30 minutes . 

If you get someone that's cool enough, they'll let you use the GC2 which is way more accurate and you can bring your own gamer balls as they read a lot better IMO than the overhead bays in the back. The back bays are much better with irons than the driver. Spin always seems about 1000 rpm higher than actual. 

That's good to know. I have a pretty good relationship with the store as I run a Foundation and Golf outing and always go to them for gifts/raffle items. 

When i brought the shaft there to be made i was talking to the club maker about it and he was confused at first with my SS and going to A flex shaft. I told him about "OttoPhlex". When I picked it up he said he put the swing weight to D1 and that he looked up this forum and gave it a read, was curious how it turns out. 

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16 minutes ago, azstu324 said:

Not sure if you mentioned it but what loft are you playing your driver at? A lot of us noticed that the initial launch was pretty high and had to end up turning the loft down. For example my stock loft is at 9 degrees and I turned it down to 7.5° that I've never used before and launch is absolutely perfect with my spin rate around 2100 RPM.

My next question is how is your disbursement and control? Have you noticed it get any better or worse? When I started this experiment my goal wasn't really to chase more distance so much as to gain better control but I ended up actually getting even more distance and finding the control that I was after so for me it was a real win-win. 

So my driver is TSi3 at 10° at B1 setting. I turned it to C1 setting to get it down to 9.25°. Need to spend some more time with it but do enough the load feel I get with it. 

As for the disbursement and control. It does feel a bit better. I play a draw as I spent so much time fixing over the top when I first started golfing that it takes every fiber in my body to swing out to in now so I always swing in to out. So my misses are big draws/hooks. They did feel tighter and was a point on the range had 4 drives land within 5 yards of each other. Feel like with my Oban I have to been completely on for that to happen. 

Going to be test it more this weekend and might try to test on another simulator to compare the spin rate. Going to try to get a 30 minute session at PGASS. 

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Okay so had my first swings with my GPLB 45 A flex shaft D1 swing weight

Right now distance is a little longer/same as my Oban 04 65gram shaft.  Backspin is a little higher at 2700-2800 rpm, lowest I got was 2500rpm. As with my Oban lowest I get is 2300 RPM. Not sure if the Full Swing simulator reads it a bit higher. 

Yardages are around 275 carry with rollout to 292. 

Swing speeds is 110-115mph as my Oban is usually 108-112. Ball speed was around 155-165mph. 

Still some more testing to do, also need to dial in driver swing. Was thinking on adjust swing weight to either D0 or D1.5 to see a difference either way. 

I do enjoy that fact that I can feel the load better in the GPLB. I feel like in my Oban (not sure since its Pured) I have a hard time feeling it load. Plus when I have a lower SS on some drives like a 105, the GPLB feels better. 

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On 10/1/2022 at 2:14 PM, azstu324 said:

I know a big question that's coming up is head weight, shaft weight, Swing weight, etc. This is what a setup with the Garafalloy non-CB PLB 45g A flex looks like cut to play 45" and D1 SW. I've got a Lamkin Sonar wrap grip that weighs 50g and 3 wraps. 

When cutting down the shaft, do you recommend going from tip or butt end?

I plan on cutting down to 45in as well just curious which end?

Also I have a buddy who is interested but swings around 120mph, do you think the R flex or A Flex would be better starting point? 

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3 hours ago, azstu324 said:

Not meaning to pick on some of the details that you provided but are you attempting an OttoPhlex setup? Or are you just trying out the lighter PLB in your own flex? 

The reason I'm asking is because if you're simply just trying your hand at a lighter g shaft, I personally wouldn't recommend the D0 SW. In any instance, you will want to have a better sense of where the head is and D0 may cause you to lose the head on the stiffer flex.  That's just my recommendation. Additionally, in either case, if you play your driver at 44.75", you may need to add weight to the head just to get it up to D0. I have mine playing at 45" and needed to add 2.5g just to get it over D0. 

If you're trying to give OttoPhlex a go, it appears that your in the wrong flex category with an S flex based on your SS. I'd suggest an A flex for your speed. D0 actually works with the OttoPhlex because you feel much more of the loading of the shaft and it actually feels much heavier than the SW suggests.

Lastly, I might suggest starting with 45" and then see how things go from there. If it feels too long, you can cut .25" from the butt end. 45" not only seems to give great results to a lot of guys, but it's also a length that doesn't require too much weight to be added back to the head. The goal, at least with the OttoPhlex is to find D0-D1 in the most natural way possible without having to add a ridiculous amount of weight to the head. 

Hopefully that was somewhat helpful. 

Sorry I meant A, I got the senior flex shaft for OttoPhlex. 

By 45" are you meaning the playing length with driver head included?

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So I purchased the PLB in S flex, an adapter for my TSi3. As someone who can't really tweak/adjust on my own. Should I just have it made to my current driver shaft length (I'm 5'6 with a swing speed of ~110mph max) of 44.75 or think should just get the PLB cut to 45. 

Then for swing weight, would just be add/removing weight from the driver head correct?

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I've been following this topic and was linterested in giving this a try.

I was on Golfworks to order the PLB but never order just a shaft before and a bit confused on the butt and tip trimming section and playing length by just ordering the shaft. Currently I play a Tsi3 at 45in length and would like to try the PLB at that as well. I assume I would have to order the adapter for the Tsi3 myself?