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But even the putter doesn't show up. Rumor was they found a deal with a different manufacturer in Korea (one Callaway uses), so maybe that manufacturer has them listed as some kind of different model name.

They aren't going to be listed under "Kirkland". They'll probably be under the manufacturing company. Previously the wedges were done by Indi, but Indi is owned by Southern California Design Company...so there may be a new company name assigned to make the irons.

Irons have been in the works for a year now. Even MGS did a story on them in January. https://mygolfspy.com/news-opinion/kirkland-irons-2023-usga-preview/

Bettinardi, Honma, Callaway, etc. all hiding at Costco throughout the year.

I have the ZX5s and love them. You'll find an entire thread somewhere of members praising these irons. I have also used Cleveland wedges my entire golf life, and will always praise them as phenomenal clubs. I have wedges from pretty much every major brand and DTC brand ranging from 46* all the way up to 64*, and when I had to get new wedges for my bag I just bought Cleveland RTX and CBX wedges.

I have Tiles that I do the same thing with. Same concept but works with any phone. But also, insure your golf equipment. For like $5,000 worth of clubs, bags, travel bags, head covers, etc. it is $60/year with State Farm. Lots of companies have what is called "Inland Marine" that you can add to your home/renters policies for this. They'll replace everything new if you give them a full description and value. Sadly they won't cover "personal electronics" like range finders and launch monitors.

It may sound crazy, but try green balls if they are offered in the brand you play. Green is the easiest and largest spectrum of color for the human eye to see. Also, try not to get polarized sunglasses...they generally hurt your ability to see fine details in sports.

I'm surprised you went from 52/56 to 50/58. I use Cleveland wedges and have a 48/52/56 split now (because I stopped my ZX5s at PW) and when I go grab new ones I'll go 50/56. Never been one to use wedges higher than 56.

Some advice to go with this since I've been using the Honors+ Hybrid bag for over 2 years now. 1. Buy the warranty. It covers anything for 2 years and costs like $30-40. Trust me...you'll use it. 2. That leads me to the fact that the clips that hold the straps on are plastic. They'll likely break. Mine have twice, and they can't be replaced so they literally give you a new bag if you have the warranty. 3. Stand legs are also easily bent. I don't use them a ton as I don't walk and carry the bag, but mine got bent and no longer open up all the way. The bag still stands albeit a little less stable. Not enough to worry about warranty. 4. Chapstick the zippers. The smaller teeth mean if the zippers gets stuck it will more likely tear/break. Just every 6 months throw a little chapstick near the zipper pull and then run the zipper all the way open and closed to work the wax in as lubricant.

I have one of their wedges and it is awesome, but not used the putters. Grindworks is one of those "luxury" brands, so often pricing is higher. If the putter is affordable, then I'd wager it is worth the risk.

I'm a huge short game guy and have a ton of wedges lying around. That said, none by Indi. I looked at their options because I was going to by a couple, but my biggest issue is that my attack wedge is 56* and I can't see myself with 12* or 14* of bounce for my go to wedge. Maybe I'll overcome that and give them a shot, but not at the moment.

I find it weird they didn't have some kind of a satisfaction promise or something. The shop I go to has a promise to help correct things if you find that something isn't right up to 90 days after you get the clubs. Like I didn't like the grips, so they swapped them free of charge. If something is off they work to make sure you didn't waste as much money.

I'm going to say yes and no. Yes, I'm not happy that the time I received wasn't sufficient and its not feasible to really test enough club and shaft models when you do a full bag fitting. But at the same time, no I'm not unhappy with the fitting overall. My fitter was awesome, the experience was great, and they were very accommodating for the experience. Sadly, I was fitted into a driver and I loved it and hit it well, but turns out a make and model that I didn't test is just overall better for me in both distance and consistency. I happened to buy the driver on a whim when they clearanced the end of the line stock last year, and here I am with a $700 driver sitting at home while a $180 driver hits bombs down the fairway. I wish mostly that there wasn't a deal to do a full bag fitting when they should know the time to do so exceeds the time they block off to get it done. Either break it up into 2 days, or make the cost of a half bag fitting equivalent to half of a full bag fitting.

You play as fast as it takes to keep up with the group in front of you but not hit them with your shots. As soon as that is the case you go ahead. You'll never make everybody happy. If people behind you start hitting into you then you give them a stern warning about safety, and if they do it again warn them you'll start returning to sender. I've finished 9 holes in 90 minutes and had the ranger tell us we need to keep up and speed the pace of play. I told him there is no one behind us and we finished 30% faster than the average expectancy. Those are the guys you ignore and keep doing what you're doing.

haha definitely cool to use wedges with my hometown on them! This may surprise people, but awhile ago I had an extra slot in my bag so I bought a club just for the sake of something stupid to fill the slot...it was a 64*. If you have a hard time with flop shots and/or bunker shots, go grab one of the $100 sub70 wedges that are on sale and try it. No fancy aiming left and changing other things...just square up and hit the shot (favor front foot weight for both). Don't really use the wedge anymore, but it was fun to give friends who dreaded bunker shots to use instead of trying to open the face and stuff. That is one of the benefits of loving short game as much as I do...I have a ton of wedges and putters lying around.

I have tried almost every DTC and big name brand wedge on the market in the last 3 years. Ultimately I still keep going back to the Cleveland wedges. I've moved away from carrying a ton of wedges because I've always been very good at controlling nearly any lofted wedge inside 100 yards, so I only have a 50* CBX-2 and a 56* RTX 6 right now. I like having the 2 very different wedges because 1 is for workability and creating different shots, and the other is more forgiving and reliable for those bump and runs, low launch high spin check shots, and fuller shots. I also had the issue with Vokey feeling too heavy even after trying them in fittings. I didn't like that I had to feel like I was applying more hand muscles to create the same shots as I could with other wedges. If I was only using them for basic 3/4 or full shots then I'd be fine with them, but running less wedges because I can do nearly anything I want with 2 doesn't work for me and Vokeys.

Currently using the ZX5s from last year. I was fitted last year and it came down to these and the Mizuno Hot Metals. Ultimately the Srixon won out on consistency. Great irons that are really forgiving and still leave room for workability. I recommend all my friends who are getting new irons to go get fitted and at least try the Srixon lines.

So here's the deal. I spent a lot of money getting fitted for the first time last year after many years of lessons and feeling it was time. Being a shorter guy, buying off the rack was definitely causing swing flaws to account for. I tested Cobra, Ping, TaylorMade, Titleist, Callaway, and Srixon in my fitting (along with quite the array of shafts and shaft lengths). After all was said and done we looked at a display that said Cobra was the longest, but the TaylorMade Stealth+ was the tightest dispersion. Not once did the fitter even mention the Mizuno drivers to me. We didn't see them or test them. But, when MGS did a quick article on the forgiveness of the STZ-220 it was perfect timing as the season was ending. I figured, I'll grab one and hit it for fun just to try it out then I can easily resell it to break even (got an "outlet demo" one still in the wrapper for $180 shipped). Nope. "Off the rack" this is easily the most forgiving driver I've hit and it was going the extra 10 yds the Cobra was compared to my Stealth+. The shaft isn't the same one I was using (the eBay store I snagged it from was out of my Smoke Blue when I ordered it), but that didn't matter. Before you write them off, go demo one. Its so easy to demo clubs now that there is no excuse not to. Go walk into a Golf Galaxy and ask to hit something in a sim, or hit up Global Golf and use their UTRY to carry something for a couple rounds in whatever climate you live in. All I know is that my fitting taught me two things: Never write something off simply because another company spends more on marketing, and sometimes you need to tell the fitter what you want to do because they aren't going to give every company an equal shake. Sometimes the "performance advantage" comes from the person holding the club.

Took MGS advice and snagged a "demo" Mizuno ST-Z 220 driver to play around with. I'd never really given Mizuno a shot during my driver fitting last year, so it is kind of an unknown to me how it will perform. For $200, I can't really go wrong giving it a shot considering I could get the same shaft and grip on it that II currently use.

I think a lot of this is subjective and going to vary greatly from player to player and bag to bag. First, you can jack lofts but that is only one part of a larger scheme of things that control distance and stopping power. Companies now are able to jack lofts up because the technology to do so and still remain pretty forgiving is possible. In the past, you obtained forgiveness and stopping power by having higher launch. Today we have much finer milling and laser milling and more technologically advanced equipment. The biggest improvements in the game of golf have come in the form of the golf ball. Combine that with the advancements in shafts, and you have a far more customizable bag than ever before. If you want lower launch and higher spin, then you can find irons and shafts and balls to do that. If you want higher launch and lower spin, then you can do that too. I personally dropped my 4i for a 7w specifically because it launched higher and landed softer. I crushed the Cobra LTDX 20 yards further than the new TM Stealth+ driver, but I chose the TM driver because for me it had a much tighter dispersion. Getting fitted is fairly important and then you and the fitter have to make the decision for what that individual wants and needs. I think this is going to be different from player to player and bag to bag what people want and what works for them. There are golfers with different swings, swing speeds, locations, climates, balls, etc. that will want different things. But do you have to use the 6 iron? You only mention the launch which is only 1 aspect of what makes a ball travel x distance...

Didn't your fitter go through all of this and set up the optimal weights for you? I can move mine (just like my driver), but I don't because once I get fit they did the work and have the tools to make it proper.

That's awesome. I'm happy I went to a fitter because mine called and offered to let me use the labs putter until mine comes in "hopefully" next month. Its been 3 months and pushed back another month, so at this point I'm not hopeful that I get my putter until end of summer.

Honestly, don't wait if you don't have to. Mizuno is really struggling to get shafts for putters and while they have them in now...they may not in the near future. My M-Craft has been pushed back for months and was pushed back "at least" another month due to shaft shortage.

Wasn't the furthest for me, but it was the most consistent. I hit 10 shots in the fairway all within 7 yards of each other in distance with the Stealth+. The side to side dispersion from every other driver tested in my fitting was 50% or more than the Stealth+ was. I'll take that consistency over 5-10 more yards and worrying about hitting hazards.