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    RwsGolf1 got a reaction from buckpillar in Does 1 degree of loft make a big difference in wedges?   
    One aspect that many fail to realize is that lofts are much stronger today than in the past.  Secondly,  good players realize that lofts change as the club is played.  Serious golfers must check lofts periodically as forgings especially will bend slightly over time.  Wedges are more important as compared to other clubs for loft verification.  If you are relying on a 56 deg. SW to fly 110 and over time it goes 120, a player must compensate.  More Important are the half shots, low trajectory spinners or flights over bunkers to tight pin placements. Dirty grooves will definitely affect distance and spin. Turf conditions such as damp grass or thick rough all must factor in on club selection.  My SW and LW are more than 10 years old.  They have been re-grooved and so they are still playable and a comfortable look after years of experience.  Also note; all manufacturers are trying to sell you the next best widget when in fact, the old stand-bys are in most cases as good or better.
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    RwsGolf1 got a reaction from William P in Does 1 degree of loft make a big difference in wedges?   
    One aspect that many fail to realize is that lofts are much stronger today than in the past.  Secondly,  good players realize that lofts change as the club is played.  Serious golfers must check lofts periodically as forgings especially will bend slightly over time.  Wedges are more important as compared to other clubs for loft verification.  If you are relying on a 56 deg. SW to fly 110 and over time it goes 120, a player must compensate.  More Important are the half shots, low trajectory spinners or flights over bunkers to tight pin placements. Dirty grooves will definitely affect distance and spin. Turf conditions such as damp grass or thick rough all must factor in on club selection.  My SW and LW are more than 10 years old.  They have been re-grooved and so they are still playable and a comfortable look after years of experience.  Also note; all manufacturers are trying to sell you the next best widget when in fact, the old stand-bys are in most cases as good or better.
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    RwsGolf1 got a reaction from William P in Does 1 degree of loft make a big difference in wedges?   
    1 degree only makes the difference in the gap between your wedges.  A constant separation allows for yardage differences.  1 degree in lie, or 1 degree in bounce is just as important.  When a shot requires bounce, you need to use the club with the bounce.  My SW has the most bounce.  When conditions change in bunkers such as firm sand, wet conditions, I may either use the lob (less bounce) or even a regular wedge.  When you get new clubs you need to make sure that you fill the yardage gaps.  I the past 40 years, a 9 iron loft is much stronger where now the loft of a gap wedge.
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    RwsGolf1 got a reaction from VernL4 in Garmin S70 Golf GPS Watch - 2023 Forum Review   
    I wonder…although when I wear a watch it is on left hand, if it might make sense to try the right hand to not interfere with glove?
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    RwsGolf1 got a reaction from HikingMike in Anyone completely ditched fairway woods in their bags?   
    I too took my 3 wood out months ago.  It was dead weight as I may of only hit it once in 20+ rounds.  My hybrid I do not hit as far but is much more useful.  I hit hybrid yesterday on par 5 about 230 but only average about 205.  I hit my 4 iron off the tee on shorter tight par 4s with better accuracy and consistency.
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    RwsGolf1 got a reaction from William P in Anyone completely ditched fairway woods in their bags?   
    I too took my 3 wood out months ago.  It was dead weight as I may of only hit it once in 20+ rounds.  My hybrid I do not hit as far but is much more useful.  I hit hybrid yesterday on par 5 about 230 but only average about 205.  I hit my 4 iron off the tee on shorter tight par 4s with better accuracy and consistency.
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    RwsGolf1 got a reaction from EnderinAZ in Anyone completely ditched fairway woods in their bags?   
    I too took my 3 wood out months ago.  It was dead weight as I may of only hit it once in 20+ rounds.  My hybrid I do not hit as far but is much more useful.  I hit hybrid yesterday on par 5 about 230 but only average about 205.  I hit my 4 iron off the tee on shorter tight par 4s with better accuracy and consistency.
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    RwsGolf1 got a reaction from ZackS in Anyone completely ditched fairway woods in their bags?   
    I too took my 3 wood out months ago.  It was dead weight as I may of only hit it once in 20+ rounds.  My hybrid I do not hit as far but is much more useful.  I hit hybrid yesterday on par 5 about 230 but only average about 205.  I hit my 4 iron off the tee on shorter tight par 4s with better accuracy and consistency.
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    RwsGolf1 got a reaction from Rtracymog in FlightScope Progression Series: 2023 Forum Member Review   
    I look forward to your review.  I would like to see you compare with other sources for accuracy and the ability to pick up each shot.  I have seen with my testing of other technologies that sometimes shots are missed and about one out of ten shows funky numbers.  For instance hitting 75 yard SWs, i seen a crazy number like 335 yards.  The challenges are good as well, I utilize them on occasion with my MLM pro.  I wish I would see more of a range of club utilization as in playing a round ie:  D,7, D,W,.etc.  Lastly, how quickly it connects (using Bluetooth or Internet).  Good luck and I look forward to your results.
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    RwsGolf1 got a reaction from sirchunksalot in FlightScope Progression Series: 2023 Forum Member Review   
    Nice serious setup.  With all you have there…are you using any other technology monitor during your practice?
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    RwsGolf1 got a reaction from sirchunksalot in FlightScope Progression Series: 2023 Forum Member Review   
    I look forward to your review.  I would like to see you compare with other sources for accuracy and the ability to pick up each shot.  I have seen with my testing of other technologies that sometimes shots are missed and about one out of ten shows funky numbers.  For instance hitting 75 yard SWs, i seen a crazy number like 335 yards.  The challenges are good as well, I utilize them on occasion with my MLM pro.  I wish I would see more of a range of club utilization as in playing a round ie:  D,7, D,W,.etc.  Lastly, how quickly it connects (using Bluetooth or Internet).  Good luck and I look forward to your results.
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    RwsGolf1 got a reaction from Byrnzee in FlightScope Progression Series: 2023 Forum Member Review   
    Nice serious setup.  With all you have there…are you using any other technology monitor during your practice?
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    RwsGolf1 got a reaction from Josh Parker in FlightScope Progression Series: 2023 Forum Member Review   
    I look forward to your review.  I would like to see you compare with other sources for accuracy and the ability to pick up each shot.  I have seen with my testing of other technologies that sometimes shots are missed and about one out of ten shows funky numbers.  For instance hitting 75 yard SWs, i seen a crazy number like 335 yards.  The challenges are good as well, I utilize them on occasion with my MLM pro.  I wish I would see more of a range of club utilization as in playing a round ie:  D,7, D,W,.etc.  Lastly, how quickly it connects (using Bluetooth or Internet).  Good luck and I look forward to your results.
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    RwsGolf1 reacted to Alan Scalzi in FlightScope Progression Series: 2023 Forum Member Review   
    This is my set up as of today, I hit daily and would also invite my 3 other playing group to come over and use this. So it would be like 4 reviews in one! I would also put this into my practices to help my fine tune my range for each club in my bag. As you can see I can hit all clubs with how I have it set up as most people with a hitting net can't hit the wedges.  I can would love to test. Looking forward to the results as I have been looking at this manufacturer for when I build my indoor hitting bay in my basement.  Thanks again for the awesome work you guys do !


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    RwsGolf1 got a reaction from Byrnzee in FlightScope Progression Series: 2023 Forum Member Review   
    I look forward to your review.  I would like to see you compare with other sources for accuracy and the ability to pick up each shot.  I have seen with my testing of other technologies that sometimes shots are missed and about one out of ten shows funky numbers.  For instance hitting 75 yard SWs, i seen a crazy number like 335 yards.  The challenges are good as well, I utilize them on occasion with my MLM pro.  I wish I would see more of a range of club utilization as in playing a round ie:  D,7, D,W,.etc.  Lastly, how quickly it connects (using Bluetooth or Internet).  Good luck and I look forward to your results.
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    RwsGolf1 reacted to Byrnzee in FlightScope Progression Series: 2023 Forum Member Review   
    Flightscope Mevo Personal Launch Monitor - MGS Forum Review by Connor (Byrnzee) Byrne:
    Introduction:
    First off, I want to thank MGS for this massive opportunity. I know that this was one of the most sought-after tests to date and I'm incredibly honored to be selected. This is my first testing opportunity for the Forum and I will do whatever it takes to get the best results possible for this awesome community.
    My name is Connor Byrne - Byrnzee has always been a family nickname and something my friends have called me growing up. I currently live in Chicago, IL with my wife but grew up in Syracuse, NY. My dad has always been a great golfer and got me into the game at a young age. He never forced the game on me, but instead made it available and fun (which is the best way to do it).

    I have been a golf addict for as long as I can remember and this Forum has been a great place to nerd out and get my golf fix between rounds. I joined earlier this year after my brother-in-law @Swood1994 told me about the great community here. I'm happy to say I've been welcomed with open arms and have found a place where my passion for golf is supported and praised instead of diminished. 



    I had always considered myself a "golfer," but never had formal lessons prior to this year. I had found a way over the years to make solid contact with the ball, shoot decent scores and have fun along the way. However, I was looking for more consistency and I decided earlier this year to completely revamp my swing. This lead to a series of ups and downs with my handicap getting much worse before getting better. I'm happy to say that at the end of the year, I ended up with my lowest recorded handicap ever at 9.1.

    Now enter the Mevo test. 
    Prior to the journey to become a more consistent golfer with a better swing, my data knowledge of my own game was minimal. I knew approximately how far I could hit each club, but it was mostly a guessing game. Since taking lessons earlier this year, I've learned more about swing path, club face impact, spin rates, ball speed, etc. that I know all have significant impacts on where that little white ball ends up.
    I had been wanting to get my hands on a portable launch monitor, but sadly it wasn't in the budget this year. When I saw this opportunity arise with MGS, I kept my fingers crossed hoping I'd be one of the lucky few. 
    For my testing purposes, I'll be utilizing a year-round driving range near my house as well as an indoor simulator with Trackman for comparing data. I'm incredibly excited to get data on every club in my bag and get those figures dialed in. 
    As @Josh Parker mentioned already, there are 8 data parameters provided by the launcher as well as skill challenges available. It's incredibly impressive that you can get all of this data out of something that fits in the palm of your hand. Especially at this price point, it almost seems too good to be true!
    I'm incredibly excited to put this device through the ringer and come out on the other side with a boatload of data and feedback.
    If anyone has any questions or would like to know more about how I'll be testing, feel free to comment or shoot me a message!
    First Impressions (9/10):
    When the box arrived, I felt like a kid waking up on Christmas morning. The weather in Chicago this time of year can only be described as "opposite of golf weather." Having the opportunity to test the Mevo and give myself an excuse to hit balls consistently throughout the off-season is a dream.
    The Mevo box arrived in a larger USPS box with plenty of bubble wrap to protect the precious cargo (shoutout @GolfSpy_BNG for the safe arrival). The actual Mevo box was pretty small compared to what I expected. I think I had in my head that the Mevo was about the size of my hand... more on that to come in a bit



    I really loved the design of the box. As others have mentioned previously, it has a magnetic flap that helps everything seem secure inside. The mantra of "practice with purpose" and the definition of Mevo on the outside were some nice touches to the overall aesthetic.
    Inside the box, you will find a quote by Henri Johnson, Found & CEO of FlightScope

    You'll also find a user manual, which contains a lot of helpful information as you're trying to interpret what the device does and how to set it up. In addition to the user manual, you'll receive a quick start guide that will get you up and running once your Mevo arrives:

    As others have mentioned, you need metallic stickers on the balls in order for the Mevo to accurately read the data, especially while hitting balls inside. While there are other alternatives to these stickers available, it's nice that they are included in the package so you can get started right away when your Mevo arrives.
    Now onto the actual monitor! As I stated above, I was shocked by how small this device was. I had seen other posts from testers, with them even having the monitor next to golf balls as reference, but for some reason I didn't put two and two together. This device doesn't even cover my palm (and I have small hands). 

    Now the small size wasn't a letdown by any means. I was just shocked that this tiny device can be used as a personal launch monitor on the go. It fits neatly in my golf bag without taking up much room and I can even throw it in my pocket as I'm walking out the door.
    Size aside, the build quality on the Mevo is top notch. The device feels very sturdy and the design is very clean. The kick stand on the back falls neatly in a notch to get you that appropriate angle for setup. 
    In addition to the user manual, quickstart guide and metallic stickers, the kit also comes with a short charger (USB Type A to Mini USB) and a cool pouch to carry your Mevo and protect it from general wear and tear. I threw the charging cord and the Mevo in the pouch and both fit easily. There's a drawstring on the pouch as well to ensure your valuables are secure.

    I will say although I understand the length of the charging cord from a packaging standpoint, it is a bit inconvenient. I would have preferred at least a 6 inch cord. However, it's not a deal breaker as I wouldn't be using the Mevo while it's charging anyways. I can imagine some people with outlets on the walls having their Mevo dangling in freefall or having to place something underneath the outlet to hold it. I could always buy a longer cord off Amazon for less than $10, so again, not a deal breaker but something I noted as a potential improvement.
    In addition, I would've liked to see a USB A to USB C cord included instead of the Micro USB. I'm not sure if the Mevo+ or their other devices will be moving to a USB C cord, but since that seems to be the worldwide direction for future technology, it would be more convenient to not have to keep track of several different types of cables.

    There you have it, folks! Everything that came included in this tiny box:

    I'm very impressed with the overall packaging of the Mevo and the build quality of the monitor. I'm going to give my first impressions of the device an A grade. 
    I'm excited to start trying it out and getting my distances dialed in! 
    Aesthetics (9/10):
    I was very impressed with the overall look of the Mevo. The branding was very clean, the packaging was of high quality and the device itself seems very sturdy for such a small size.
    I would say that it isn't the flashiest personal launch monitor on the market. It lacks a bit in style and flair, but if that isn't something you care about, I don't believe it takes away from the experience.
    It does seem like Flightscope is probably taking some inspiration from other devices in the space for future products like the Mevo+ Limited Edition. I'll be very interested to see what design and aesthetic changes they make in the future!
    I don't think I would make too many changes to the aesthetic of the device. I think you could make the device look more futuristic and technological, but I don't think it is necessary. I believe the aesthetic fits the function of the device. Simple, concise, efficient and effective.
    People definitely notice when you're using the device. Although it's small, it's hard to ignore when in use. I've been asked several times by people at the simulator and people on the driving range about it. People have been fascinated by how such a small device could be a personal launch monitor.

    The Numbers (17/20):
     
    Overall, the data you receive from the Mevo is incredibly impressive. You can receive instant feedback from hitting a ball within seconds. The default view is the "Dashboard," which is actually my favorite view available. You can rearrange these fields however you prefer and easily navigate between shots with the arrows shown in the bottom right: 

    In addition to the Dashboard view, you have a table available to see a detailed data table comparing all of the shots hit for a particular club:


    There is also a summary view that can be used to see the averages for each club hit during a particular session: 

    Lastly, you can see a side view that helps you visualize your flight trajectory during a session:

    It is incredibly helpful to have all of this data available at your fingertips. I mentioned above in my introduction, but I have never really focused on data when golfing. I knew approximately how far I carried each club, but it was mostly just a guess (and was probably often overstated). 
    By using this Mevo over the winter, I was able to get much more confident with my distances, which helped me get better with club selection on the course. I would highly recommend everyone looking to improve their golf game to use a launch monitor. You might assume you hit your clubs certain distances, but actually be mistaken.
    In addition, using the Mevo can help you understand your average shot. Golf is a game of averages. You're not always going to hit your best iron shot. You may hit an absolute perfect 8 iron 160 yards, but you hit an average 8 iron 150 yards. This data can really help shave strokes off your game.
    To be honest, my expectations for the actual data from this device was fairly low. Most of my testing was done in comparison to a Trackman 4 launch monitor, which costs north of $20,000 USD. How can this tiny device that costs less than $500 possibly compete?
    The answer surprised me and I'm sure will surprise you as well. The data doesn't lie and the Mevo goes toe-to-toe with the Trackman 4 in nearly every data category available for both devices. I did a more in-depth head-to-head comparison between the two devices here, where I hit about 50 shots with an 8-iron and tracked the data between the two devices.
    That test used five datapoints that were available on both devices: Carry Distance, Club Speed, Ball Speed, Smash Factor, and Spin Rate. I won't post all of the graphs from that specific test here, but here's an overlap of carry distance between both devices:

    You can see from the graph above that these shots were nearly identical in carry distance between the two devices for 12 shots. There will always be outliers in these datasets, but you can be confident that the data you're receiving from the Mevo is materially accurate.
    The one area related to numbers that has been a bit of a disappointment is with the driver. I really struggled to get the Mevo to produce similar data points to what I was seeing with the Trackman 4. 




    One thing that is incredibly crucial with the Mevo is setup of the device. You need to ensure that the Mevo is at the same level as the ball being struck. When I was doing the majority of my testing, the Mevo was resting on the turf at the exact same level as the ball.
    However, when you tee up a ball to hit a driver, the Mevo is no longer on the same plane as the ball and the device struggles to accurately read the shot. I attempted to fix this by placing the Mevo on a box that was approximately the same height as the tee; I still struggled to get accurate data. As you can see in the screenshots above, many datapoints such as club speed and smash factor could not even be produced from a driver session.
    This disconnect in the data between the two devices could have been due to a variety of factors: the simulator I used for testing only had bright overhead lighting at the area of impact; the Trackman and Mevo were both in more shadowed areas. However, when the data for every other club in my bag was incredibly close to the Trackman data, I was a bit letdown by the Mevo driver data. 
    That being said, driver is the one club in my bag I'm not as concerned about how far it is going to a specific yardage. If the Mevo data says I hit my driver 265 yards and the Trackman says 255 yards, the difference shouldn't affect your plan for 99% of the holes you play. The main reason I said the driver data was disappointing was in comparison to the other clubs. The driver could be off by 10-15 yards at times, while all other clubs were mostly accurate within one yard!!
    Overall, I don't think the driver inaccuracy would deter me from buying this device. If you're entering a long drive competition and need your driving data to be greater than 95% accurate, you may disagree. Otherwise, I was extremely impressed by the data I received throughout my testing, especially as it compared to a top-of-the-line launch monitor.
    On the Course (20/20):
    I strongly believe that where the Mevo really shines is on the driving range. The limitations of this device are amplified when only hitting into a net or at a simulator. You're not necessarily able to tell where the ball is going, or what the flight path is going to look like. 
    However, on a range, you're able to see your actually ball flight and path in real-time, while getting instant feedback from the Mevo in regards to distance, spin, club speed, ball speed, etc.
    I was able to test the Mevo on a driving range before a round of golf. By doing so, I was able to get my distances dialed in and apply that information to my round. I hit nearly every green-in-regulation and felt extremely confident with my club selection. If I hadn't used the Mevo before that round, I would have gone back to the guessing game that I'm used to playing. 
    Many players don't understand that your distances can change on any given day due to a variety of factors. Weather, elevation, time of day, etc. can all play a factor. While your 9 iron may go 145 yards in perfect conditions, it may only go 130 yards on the course one day and leave you wondering where your normal yardage disappeared to.
    The Mevo is extremely simple to setup on a driving range. My favorite trick for getting the distance right was to use an alignment stick (4' in length) to measure out 6' between the ball and the Mevo. Seconds later I'm hitting balls as I normally do and getting instant feedback to my phone that can help me. 
    The size of the Mevo is also perfect for leaving in your golf bag without having to worry about It taking up too much room. I hope to continue to use the Mevo on the driving range to practice as well as warming up before rounds. In my opinion, it is the perfect driving range launch monitor for a casual golfer.
    The Good, the Bad and the In-Between (19/20):
    The Good: the simplicity of the device makes it easy for any golfer of any skill level to instantly receive feedback about their game. With how small it is, it's incredibly easy to bring with you to the course or driving range. The data you receive from the device is impressively accurate in comparison to more expensive launch monitors.
    The Bad: set-up is crucial almost to a fault. If the device is not at exactly the same level as the ball and exactly six feet behind the impact area, you may not receive accurate data. Driver data is hard to get perfectly accurate even when set-up correctly.
    The In-Between: there are obvious limitations to the regular Mevo launch monitor. Unlike the Mevo+, you cannot see face impact, total distance, club path, face path, shot type, among other data points.
    However, if you are looking for a reliable, simple launch monitor that can be used to dial in your carry distances on the range, this is a perfect fit. The Mevo is extremely budget conscious and packs a punch for such a small device. 
    In addition to the data mentioned above, the Mevo also includes three challenges: 1) PGA Challenge, 2) Range Competition and 3) Long Drive Competition. 
    The PGA Challenge lets you compare your data to the pros! You can pick either PGA or LPGA and which club(s) you would like to use to compare. It's very cool to see how you stack up versus the pros:

    The Range Competition lets you face-off against another player and compete to reach a target number. Each 15-yard increment is worth a certain amount of points. In this example, the first to 500 points would win!

    Finally, the Long Drive Competition lets you face-off against an opponent to see who can out-drive the other! This view is similar to the side view you would see for a normal session, but focuses specifically on driver data between players.

    Play It or Trade It? (19/20):
    I will absolutely continue to use the Mevo in both my practice sessions and before rounds on the course. Having this data at my fingertips has helped my game tremendously and will continue to do so into the future. The only reason I didn't give this a 20/20 in this section is because of the limitations of the device. In comparison to the Mevo+, you aren't able to get all of the data I believe would be necessary in order to fully understand how to improve your game (swing path, face impact, etc).
    Conclusion:
    Buy This If: you are looking for a personal launch monitor that is budget-friendly, easy to bring with you anywhere, can provide accurate data, and help you better understand your golf game. This device can give you instant feedback on the driving range to help dial in your distances.
    Don't Buy This If: you're looking for a personal launch monitor that can provide you realistic flight path and potentially be used for a simulator setup. This device lacks the necessary data and technology to give you a comprehensive picture of each golf shot.
    Final Score: 93/100
    I can't thank the MGS Staff enough for allowing me to participate in this test. I hope that through my testing I was able to share some insight for interested Forum members. I have throughly enjoyed getting to learn more about my own golf game and sharing this journey with you all!
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    RwsGolf1 got a reaction from Headhammer in Golf Channel Programming   
    Well, as far as I am concerned, GC has gone downhill since they were purchased.  I cant stand Chamblee.  As a once mediocre touring pro, somehow he is now the authority on everything.  Now, they limit how much we see of tournaments.  I watch most of tour events on Sky Sports out of GB, which is the GC feed but, with better commentating. It was much better when Arnie was still alive.
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    RwsGolf1 got a reaction from PrismFlopper in RealGolfers.co Apparel - 2023 Member Test   
    About Me:
    The Personal Questions
    ·         I live and play out of Southeast Florida – Palm Beach County
    ·         I have been playing golf for 52 Years
    ·         I am a former professional but now play mostly in mid 70s to low 80s.  I still am competitive but, have nowhere close to the skills I once had.

    The Golf Questions
    ·         I will test these garments on the golf course, leisure as well as determine how they wash for the next time wearing.
    ·         I have a closet with over 80 golf shirts of all materials and styles and will compare them to this wardrobe.
    ·         I will make a determination on how they fit, react in hot weather and maintain their size for future rounds.  If they are uncomfortable, they will remain but be utilized only for leisure and not for the course.  If these garments pass the muster, I will continue to wear and potentially order additional in the future.
    ·         I have worn almost every golf garment made over the past 50 years at one time or another.  Although, I used to either receive at no charge from the manufacturers or purchase for a steep discount, I now must pay for golf attire like everyone else.
    ·         I know that the company is making short runs of various styles and colors.  They are touting high quality for a more reasonable price. I like the fact that these are not mass produced with millions exactly the same at least as far as prints. This is great so that you do not show up at the club with the exact shirt of others.  Although not as important as women typically, it is still nice to wear something more original.
    ·         At this point, I have no expectations as far as being wearable and functionality and will let the products stand by their own merit.
    As a very experienced player and former owner of various golf pro shops, I have many years of choosing and wearing apparel from many manufacturers. I hope the product stands up to their claims.  I absolutely hate golf garments that are binding and restrict swinging to normal movements. So the ability to maintain sizing and remain uniform is a requirement. Also, living in the tropical area of the United States the ability for the product to wick and remain lose and not stick to the body with perspiration will be very important.  Lastly, the product must not be like wearing a body bag and be extremely hot while wearing.  All in all, the products must not shrink or fade with normal washing and wear.
    Please find the results of my testing of the polo and hoodie from Real Golfers below:
    First Impressions:
    I received the garments today (10-3-23) and removed them from the packaging.  From first sight, the garments seem to be of better than expected quality.  The shirt is of the same quality as the best Greg Norman or Millar polos with a fully sewn collar found only on the best golf attire.  The hoodie is as the polo and seems to be of the highest quality.  If I had to say anything negative at this point, I would say the choice of sending me a black polo for South Florida may have been an oversight.  We are still averaging between 88 and 94 daily temperatures.
    The Review
    Aesthetics
    The garments are cut normally but, would suggest they seem to be a little short as a tuck-in.
    My sample was black which is not something I would normally wear on the golf course here in South Florida.  I would say in the cooler climates it will be acceptable.
    Both the polo and the hoodie look great, stylish and look as advertised (top quality).
    As stated previously, the appearance is very acceptable although the material used is very heavy as compared to most polos I would wear to play golf.  As a golf professional of forty-six years the old Pickering 100% Lisle cotton polos were the best  for playing on the course.  I would definitely wear these for off-course and potentially in the colder months of the year. 
    Not to be redundant, but the polo is not conducive to the high heat and humidity of South Florida for most of the year. I would opt for a thinner and more breathable material.
    Features:
    Washability:  I have cleaned both the polo and the hoodie after wearing.  I find for the first wash or two, the garments hold their shape and color as the best in apparel.
    Upon washing and after reasonable amount of time in the dryer, I hung both the hoodie and polo on hangers as to not fry them (note:  this is how I take care of all of my golf attire).  Reason:  I do not want to iron and tight garments after being dried on overtime tend to shrink, again….not something conducive to playing golf.
    I mentioned previously, that the garments seem to be sewn of the highest quality.  The workmanship is top-notch.
    The company claims to not re-stock so they should be limited styles and tend to be more original.
    Wearable attributes:
    The Cut seems to be a little short for a tuck-in, especially for the high heat days.
    As the material on the polo seems to be quite thick, I think when damp from perspiration it would be somewhat binding.  Please note: I wore the polo only on the cool days (less than 82 high temp.  I wore the hoodie only to the golf course for an early morning tee time.  That morning the temp was at 71 when leaving the house.  By the time I made it to the course, the temp was at 79, so I left it in the car.
    The hoodie seems a little snug but I cannot say that it was binding at all.  Seems to move with the body quite well.
    As I stated earlier, although I wore the polo as evening attire, I could not wear during the 90-95 days as the material was a thicker material and the color I was sent was black.
    The polo was very comfortable as evening attire.
    Originality:  Again, as per the company, they will not re-stock so they will have to design new alternatives on a regular basis.  We will have to see in the future if they can afford to keep that promise.  Styles seem somewhat typical but the prints are quite nice.
    Pricing:
    As I am primarily interested in the polos until the cooler days of January and February most of my research was done with their polos.
    I signed up for updates from their website:  I believe I only received one email from them
    I have noticed their polo prices to be comparable and slightly lower than the highest pro shops.
    Prices ranged from $60 USD to mid $80s for the most part.
    I did notice though, that when they are at the end of inventory for a given style, they lower the price significantly – down to $22.50.  But, the only size available for the reduced price was small….  Not a size this body has fit into since about 1970.
    Fit & Comfort:
    Described in other parts of my response.  I would only comment that the garments are not the same fullness as the Cutter and Buck lines.
    On-Course
    While wearing when playing, I felt no limitations as the polo stretched and adjusted to the movements.  I did have to tuck back in once and then as the temperature was getting warmer, I eventually left it out without tucking.
    The polo remained tight around my chest and arms How well did they perform in terms of movement within your swing? I would like a shirt that is a little more roomie.  Please note however, although I wear XL sizes I am 215 pounds and am 6 foot one inch and like the feel of roominess while playing.
    For years, I wore the Pickering all lisle cotton shirts while playing competitively.  Today, it is impossible to find any such golf shirts.  It seems that all available today are now man-made materials. 
    Tight shirts never make it out of my closet for playing and are worn only for evening activities and for work.
    Please do not take my comments as totally negative because that is not the intent.
    I believe if this test was done at a cooler time of the year, I would have a much better opinion.
    I currently wear some Cutter and Buck, Callaway and others made from a thinner material.  I wear these same type polos during all twelve months of the year.
    As far as wearing second layers:  I have some flat knit sweaters and some fleece wear that are for the colder months.  Included in this outer garments are wind-shirts and vests.  The vests typically have limited or no sleeves.
    The hoodie will be used predominantly for the same type weather in the January to February time frames.
    I must admit, others in my golfing group commented on the polo, all in a positive manner.
    I still have not had any days since the start of testing for me to sample the hoodie during play.
    I feel there were no limitations to my play from wearing the polo other than the weight of the fabric seemed uncomfortable.
    The Good, the bad, and the in between Summary
    Overall, I think the quality of the garments are very acceptable. They look good, fit well and it is evident that the manufacturer went the extra steps to make them as good or better than most of the golf type garments available today.
    I would suggest to the manufacturer that they look for an alternative material for the polos if they want to market them for warmer climates.  A lighter weight material is mandatory for me to wear ten months out of the year.
    Secondly, I would suggest that the manufacturer look at potentially designing a light weight wind-shirt.  Lastly, I like wearing a vest when I need a little more protection from the windy days but, I dislike the binding of full sleeves.  I have several golf vests that fill this need.
    Lastly, I like the fact that the goal of Real Golfers is to keep pricing 20-30 percent under the competition while still providing well designed prints.
    Play it or Trade it?
    To be honest, I do not plan on purchasing any of the company’s current polos.  As I stated previously, quality is not the issue buy wearing a comfortable garment on the golf course is important for my game.
    This polo is something I would typically only wear for dinner or an evening function.
    I believe, assuming all of their polos are of the same weight, that their products are better suited to golfers who live in colder climates.
    I like the originality of their designs and their overall price point.  I will periodically review their website to see if they decided to make a lighter weight material polo and maybe I will try another one at a later time.
    Conclusion
    The Real Golfer brand is a very good attempt at providing high quality golf wear at a more reasonable price point.  As their goal is to keep their styles on a more original basis, a golfer should not expect that he should see the same exact garment being worn by others around the club.  My greatest complaint is that the weight of the garments are geared towards the cooler climates and therefore will not be a big hit here in South Florida.

    Final Score (85 out of 100)





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    RwsGolf1 got a reaction from BallsLeon in RealGolfers.co Apparel - 2023 Member Test   
    About Me:
    The Personal Questions
    ·         I live and play out of Southeast Florida – Palm Beach County
    ·         I have been playing golf for 52 Years
    ·         I am a former professional but now play mostly in mid 70s to low 80s.  I still am competitive but, have nowhere close to the skills I once had.

    The Golf Questions
    ·         I will test these garments on the golf course, leisure as well as determine how they wash for the next time wearing.
    ·         I have a closet with over 80 golf shirts of all materials and styles and will compare them to this wardrobe.
    ·         I will make a determination on how they fit, react in hot weather and maintain their size for future rounds.  If they are uncomfortable, they will remain but be utilized only for leisure and not for the course.  If these garments pass the muster, I will continue to wear and potentially order additional in the future.
    ·         I have worn almost every golf garment made over the past 50 years at one time or another.  Although, I used to either receive at no charge from the manufacturers or purchase for a steep discount, I now must pay for golf attire like everyone else.
    ·         I know that the company is making short runs of various styles and colors.  They are touting high quality for a more reasonable price. I like the fact that these are not mass produced with millions exactly the same at least as far as prints. This is great so that you do not show up at the club with the exact shirt of others.  Although not as important as women typically, it is still nice to wear something more original.
    ·         At this point, I have no expectations as far as being wearable and functionality and will let the products stand by their own merit.
    As a very experienced player and former owner of various golf pro shops, I have many years of choosing and wearing apparel from many manufacturers. I hope the product stands up to their claims.  I absolutely hate golf garments that are binding and restrict swinging to normal movements. So the ability to maintain sizing and remain uniform is a requirement. Also, living in the tropical area of the United States the ability for the product to wick and remain lose and not stick to the body with perspiration will be very important.  Lastly, the product must not be like wearing a body bag and be extremely hot while wearing.  All in all, the products must not shrink or fade with normal washing and wear.
    Please find the results of my testing of the polo and hoodie from Real Golfers below:
    First Impressions:
    I received the garments today (10-3-23) and removed them from the packaging.  From first sight, the garments seem to be of better than expected quality.  The shirt is of the same quality as the best Greg Norman or Millar polos with a fully sewn collar found only on the best golf attire.  The hoodie is as the polo and seems to be of the highest quality.  If I had to say anything negative at this point, I would say the choice of sending me a black polo for South Florida may have been an oversight.  We are still averaging between 88 and 94 daily temperatures.
    The Review
    Aesthetics
    The garments are cut normally but, would suggest they seem to be a little short as a tuck-in.
    My sample was black which is not something I would normally wear on the golf course here in South Florida.  I would say in the cooler climates it will be acceptable.
    Both the polo and the hoodie look great, stylish and look as advertised (top quality).
    As stated previously, the appearance is very acceptable although the material used is very heavy as compared to most polos I would wear to play golf.  As a golf professional of forty-six years the old Pickering 100% Lisle cotton polos were the best  for playing on the course.  I would definitely wear these for off-course and potentially in the colder months of the year. 
    Not to be redundant, but the polo is not conducive to the high heat and humidity of South Florida for most of the year. I would opt for a thinner and more breathable material.
    Features:
    Washability:  I have cleaned both the polo and the hoodie after wearing.  I find for the first wash or two, the garments hold their shape and color as the best in apparel.
    Upon washing and after reasonable amount of time in the dryer, I hung both the hoodie and polo on hangers as to not fry them (note:  this is how I take care of all of my golf attire).  Reason:  I do not want to iron and tight garments after being dried on overtime tend to shrink, again….not something conducive to playing golf.
    I mentioned previously, that the garments seem to be sewn of the highest quality.  The workmanship is top-notch.
    The company claims to not re-stock so they should be limited styles and tend to be more original.
    Wearable attributes:
    The Cut seems to be a little short for a tuck-in, especially for the high heat days.
    As the material on the polo seems to be quite thick, I think when damp from perspiration it would be somewhat binding.  Please note: I wore the polo only on the cool days (less than 82 high temp.  I wore the hoodie only to the golf course for an early morning tee time.  That morning the temp was at 71 when leaving the house.  By the time I made it to the course, the temp was at 79, so I left it in the car.
    The hoodie seems a little snug but I cannot say that it was binding at all.  Seems to move with the body quite well.
    As I stated earlier, although I wore the polo as evening attire, I could not wear during the 90-95 days as the material was a thicker material and the color I was sent was black.
    The polo was very comfortable as evening attire.
    Originality:  Again, as per the company, they will not re-stock so they will have to design new alternatives on a regular basis.  We will have to see in the future if they can afford to keep that promise.  Styles seem somewhat typical but the prints are quite nice.
    Pricing:
    As I am primarily interested in the polos until the cooler days of January and February most of my research was done with their polos.
    I signed up for updates from their website:  I believe I only received one email from them
    I have noticed their polo prices to be comparable and slightly lower than the highest pro shops.
    Prices ranged from $60 USD to mid $80s for the most part.
    I did notice though, that when they are at the end of inventory for a given style, they lower the price significantly – down to $22.50.  But, the only size available for the reduced price was small….  Not a size this body has fit into since about 1970.
    Fit & Comfort:
    Described in other parts of my response.  I would only comment that the garments are not the same fullness as the Cutter and Buck lines.
    On-Course
    While wearing when playing, I felt no limitations as the polo stretched and adjusted to the movements.  I did have to tuck back in once and then as the temperature was getting warmer, I eventually left it out without tucking.
    The polo remained tight around my chest and arms How well did they perform in terms of movement within your swing? I would like a shirt that is a little more roomie.  Please note however, although I wear XL sizes I am 215 pounds and am 6 foot one inch and like the feel of roominess while playing.
    For years, I wore the Pickering all lisle cotton shirts while playing competitively.  Today, it is impossible to find any such golf shirts.  It seems that all available today are now man-made materials. 
    Tight shirts never make it out of my closet for playing and are worn only for evening activities and for work.
    Please do not take my comments as totally negative because that is not the intent.
    I believe if this test was done at a cooler time of the year, I would have a much better opinion.
    I currently wear some Cutter and Buck, Callaway and others made from a thinner material.  I wear these same type polos during all twelve months of the year.
    As far as wearing second layers:  I have some flat knit sweaters and some fleece wear that are for the colder months.  Included in this outer garments are wind-shirts and vests.  The vests typically have limited or no sleeves.
    The hoodie will be used predominantly for the same type weather in the January to February time frames.
    I must admit, others in my golfing group commented on the polo, all in a positive manner.
    I still have not had any days since the start of testing for me to sample the hoodie during play.
    I feel there were no limitations to my play from wearing the polo other than the weight of the fabric seemed uncomfortable.
    The Good, the bad, and the in between Summary
    Overall, I think the quality of the garments are very acceptable. They look good, fit well and it is evident that the manufacturer went the extra steps to make them as good or better than most of the golf type garments available today.
    I would suggest to the manufacturer that they look for an alternative material for the polos if they want to market them for warmer climates.  A lighter weight material is mandatory for me to wear ten months out of the year.
    Secondly, I would suggest that the manufacturer look at potentially designing a light weight wind-shirt.  Lastly, I like wearing a vest when I need a little more protection from the windy days but, I dislike the binding of full sleeves.  I have several golf vests that fill this need.
    Lastly, I like the fact that the goal of Real Golfers is to keep pricing 20-30 percent under the competition while still providing well designed prints.
    Play it or Trade it?
    To be honest, I do not plan on purchasing any of the company’s current polos.  As I stated previously, quality is not the issue buy wearing a comfortable garment on the golf course is important for my game.
    This polo is something I would typically only wear for dinner or an evening function.
    I believe, assuming all of their polos are of the same weight, that their products are better suited to golfers who live in colder climates.
    I like the originality of their designs and their overall price point.  I will periodically review their website to see if they decided to make a lighter weight material polo and maybe I will try another one at a later time.
    Conclusion
    The Real Golfer brand is a very good attempt at providing high quality golf wear at a more reasonable price point.  As their goal is to keep their styles on a more original basis, a golfer should not expect that he should see the same exact garment being worn by others around the club.  My greatest complaint is that the weight of the garments are geared towards the cooler climates and therefore will not be a big hit here in South Florida.

    Final Score (85 out of 100)





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    RwsGolf1 got a reaction from GaDawg in Golf Channel Programming   
    Agreed.
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    RwsGolf1 got a reaction from GaDawg in Golf Channel Programming   
    Good comment.  You would think that the “Golf Channel” would promote golf and not cut it down.  I do not think any of the current content is positive and I agree that the narrative is not something I want to hear from these individuals.  I want to watch events but, could care less about a players personal life.  Just give me the golf.
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    RwsGolf1 reacted to PeterHenric in Golf Channel Programming   
    That seems to be the state of TV in general today. There aren’t any news stations that just give you the unbiased news. It’s always their version or take on the events being covered. 
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    RwsGolf1 reacted to BallsLeon in The Good Morning Thread   
    I’m sorry to hear that Chuck @cksurfdude, always hard losing your buddy 😔 hope you have some time to love on them before they go 
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    RwsGolf1 got a reaction from cksurfdude in The Good Morning Thread   
    Anyone have this happen to them?  I used to know a really good player, that always wanted to play me.  If I could not ride with him, I would decline...
     
    The Golfer's Dilemma:
    https://www.facebook.com/reel/329684049745277?sfnsn=mo&mibextid=xtUTm5
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    RwsGolf1 got a reaction from cksurfdude in The Good Morning Thread   
    Must be nice...been raining 3 hours south of you since 7am and supposed to get worse all day long.
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