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    MuniGolfer got a reaction from Rob Person in Forum Member Reviews: Callaway Whitebox Testing   
    Here's a little mid-point review. Things are looking good so far. Can't wait to give them some more knocks.
    First Impressions (500 Words) (10 out of 10)
    I posted on my first impressions, but here is my score.
    Aesthetics (8 out of 10)
    I am unsure how to score this. I am putting it at a 8, but I am not sure how I feel about that right now. I don’t love how they chose to display the ball model, in conjunction with the triple track. I REALLY like the stock ball with the chev logo. I would rather they somehow integrate the ball model into the middle line of the triple track, or put it on the opposite side. The decision they made makes the ball seem a little hastily put together. 

    Second, I don’t love that the number color is the same on both the Tour and Tour x. It is really hard to tell them apart quickly for testing purposes. You have to really focus on the very tiny model print to see the x. If you were always playing the same model, which most do in practice, this is a non-issue. However, There is another qualm with the red they used on the number. It is a different red than the red in the triple track. It is very noticeable. The longer I spend with the balls, the more it bothers me. I wish they would pick one red hue and stick with it. 

    I am only deducting 2 points, at this stage, 1 for the mismatching reds and one for the model placement. Both numbers being red I don’t think is the biggest issue. Just noticeable in testing.
    Otherwise, the cover feels and reacts like premium urethane. The sound and feel I have liked so far. The Tour x is a little firmer than the Tour, but not extremely so. They both fit in between the Maxfli Tour x and the Maxfli Tour to me. The Chrome Tour x is noticeably softer feeling and sounding than the Prov1x.
    The Numbers (19 out of 20)
    I have only done spin and dispersion testing with a PW and 7-iron this far. Here are the results:

    I am not sure why the spin rates are so low. They are much lower than when I have used a trackman and vs my Ernest launch monitor. I have noticed that the Uneekor is consistently lower than most. Not sure if that is just their overhead system, or if it’s because it’s off a mat, which can skew spin lower, but it at least gives a reference. I also was striking the ball like absolute garbage this day and swinging quite slow, for me, so it’s really tough to judge. It took quite a few shots to get enough decent ones to get a good feel on the numbers. I will be doing this test with my Ernest as well, later in the test, after I do a long iron, lob wedge, and Driver on the Uneekor. 
    All that said, the Chrome Tour x has been a consistently high spinning ball. So far, I would say the regular Chrome Tour sits in a mid spin profile. It does seem to spin lower as the clubs get longer. I worry that could dip too low for me, but we will see. They both provide plenty of spin around the green, which I highlighted in a previous post. I think I could see myself going back to a Callaway ball if the performance continues.
    On The Course (? out of 20)
    I can’t rate on course performance yet. The weather in Utah hasn’t allowed for me to get them outside. After I finish spin testing, I will at least do some SIM course play.
    The Good, the bad, the inbetween (19 out of 20)
    The good: Very durable cover. The pics below for all 5 balls were after they were used from brand new. The Titleist and Maxflis only saw one sim session with warmup,  PW and 7iron, and already have some scuffs. The Callaways have been through multiple chipping sessions, and 2 sim sessions with wedges and irons. Each have the tiniest of little nicks. Totally playable, and I am planning on using the same 2 throughout the rest of my spin testing. Both balls are high performing, compared to other high-end competitors. The Tour x seems to be especially fast so far, as well.

    The bad: Mostly the ball model placement and color choices for the number and triple track, but YMMV.
    The in-between: The numbers on both models being red.
    Play it or Trade it? (20 out of 20)
    So far, the Callaway Chrome Tour line is an extremely impressive update to the Callaway ball family. If you find the right spin rates and performance for your game, these should be in consideration for anyone’s bag.
     
    Final Score (76 out of 80 so far)
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    MuniGolfer reacted to climberboy2000 in Forum Member Reviews: Callaway Whitebox Testing   
    I've posted a bunch about how these balls performed on the SIM and now I was finally able to head south and play on grass at Davis Park (after being on the SIM all winter).  Shot an 80 in the wind on my first time out in 3 months.  Thought we were going to have a nice sunny 50 degree day, but the wind decided to show up for most the round.  I felt both balls performed well (like any other ball I normally play) in the wind.  First shot off the tee I kept it low and hit a nice shot down the middle of the fairway.  Stepped up to an 80 yd shot, put it up and thought I was right on, only to have the wind take it right and drop it short of the green.  
    I played the Tour on the front nine and the TourX on the back nine.  Can't really say I noticed much difference (as a good shot went well and a bad shot...well).  But one thing we did notice is that they tended to get scuffed up.  I gave balls to the other three players and only my brother actually finished the round with his ball.  And you'll see in the pictures below how his ball looked at the end of the round (pretty beat up).

    Below is a picture of one of the other players after he hit a tree!

    As I said, the balls performed just as well as the normal balls (ProV1x and Sugar Pure) that I play.  On one hole, my brother had a great drive down the left side of the fairway, so I stepped up, talked some brother smack and put one 5 yards past his ball (albeit in the left rough).  From 100 yards out, he hits one about a foot from the pin.  I step up and hit one that looked like it actually either hit the pin or rolled right around it.  Below is the picture of where our balls ended up.

    I do love the spin and how these balls stick the green.  For winter, the greens were actually in great shape and rolling quick.  My shots were hitting the green and stopping fairly quickly and even getting a little backspin.  The feel off the putter felt great with both balls, but would have to say I putted better with the TourX (I played the Tour on the front and the TourX on the back).  My balls held up better than the rest of them with only a few nicks/scratches at the end.   Maybe I just don't hit as many trees as my playing partners 🙂  

    Overall I think Callaway has done a great job at making a ball to compete with the ProV1/ProV1x.  Now if they only could keep the price down a little.  Whereas Titleist already dominates the upper end of the market, if Callaway would market these at $5 or even $10 less than ProV1's they could take away some of the market share.  To convince golfers to switch from ProV1 they need to first, get them to try the ball, and second convince them that either it's better or less expensive.  Convincing golfers that anything is better than ProV1 is a hard sell.  Titleist has done a great job at marketing and makes a great ball.  But as ball prices just continue to climb, I believe more and more golfers will be looking for a quality ball for less money.  And the Chrome Tour and TourX are right in that wheelhouse. 
    If I can get back down there in a week or two I'll have to bring my PRGR launch monitor with me to get some real stats on how the balls are flying on the course. 
    Below are a couple videos to show you how windy it was.  Was happy to make the long putt in the second video for birdie!
    Shot below to show you the great place we get to play golf.  Still lots of snow in the mountains (and at my house), but luckily it's a little warmer and hour south.

    It's been a lot of fun testing these balls and if I can get some deals on them I'll buy a bunch for a charity tournament I put on up here at Birch Creek GC.  Thanks MyGolfSpy for the opportunity to test these balls and for all the great information you provide to help us in our quest for golf "perfection" (is that even possible)!
     
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    MuniGolfer reacted to JRDuck40 in Forum Member Reviews: Callaway Whitebox Testing   
    FYI - the Buy 3 get 1 is now live on GolfGalaxy.com 

    https://www.golfgalaxy.com/p/callaway-2024-chrome-tour-x-triple-track-golf-balls-4-dozen-24cwyu2024chrmtrxgbl/24cwyu2024chrmtrxgbl

    https://www.golfgalaxy.com/p/callaway-2024-chrome-tour-triple-track-golf-balls-4-dozen-24cwyu2024chrmtrtgbl/24cwyu2024chrmtrtgbl
     
    Happy shopping boys! 
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    MuniGolfer got a reaction from cksurfdude in What Equipment Have You Tested?   
    I have the first gens and love them. Very consistent distance. I have no problem generating spin though.
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    MuniGolfer reacted to ScramblinMan in Maxfli Tour with Max Align Technology Golf Balls! - 2024 Forum Review   
    Introduction 

    Hello Forum members and once again it is an honor to be chosen to test the new Maxfli Tour with  Max Align Technology. If its good enough for Lexi... Well maybe it will improve my game! My name is Cliff and this is my 2nd testing opportunity from MGS (my first one was with the Sqairz Bold Golf Shoe). I reside in Danvers, MA which is about 10 miles north of Boston. I have been fortunate enough to have been playing golf for over 50 years and have a Love/ Hate relationship with this addictive hobby. I am a member at a very challenging, unforgiving, non-pretentious private club in North Reading, MA (all 18 holes have either "out of bounds" or some type of hazard). I am an 8 handicap and play 3-4 times per week. I recently retired from my financial advisory practice that my youngest son will eventually takeover. My other son works in the Pharmaceutical industry and has blessed me with 2 granddaughters.
    I currently play the new Callaway Paradym woods that came out last year and made the switch from Mizuno irons to the Paradym irons as well. Still getting used to the stronger lies on the irons. After reading the reviews about Maxfli last season, I switched from my usual Titleist Pro v1 ball to the Maxfli Tour around August 2023. I experimented with the Maxfli Tour X and the Tour S but for my unusually high ball flight and moderate swing speed (95-100mph) the Tour model was the best fit.
    I recently installed a putting green with 4 holes in my backyard and since New England weather is so unpredictable this time of year, my golf club probably won't open for another 3-5 weeks. Most of my reviews will be focused on the new Max Align technology and show how it relates to putting. I'll probably only be able to get on the local public courses once a week as some of them have slowly started to open.  I hope you will find my feedback to be informative as well as entertaining. Please feel free to reach out to me with any questions...
     
     
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    MuniGolfer got a reaction from William P in Forum Member Reviews: Callaway Whitebox Testing   
    Here's a little mid-point review. Things are looking good so far. Can't wait to give them some more knocks.
    First Impressions (500 Words) (10 out of 10)
    I posted on my first impressions, but here is my score.
    Aesthetics (8 out of 10)
    I am unsure how to score this. I am putting it at a 8, but I am not sure how I feel about that right now. I don’t love how they chose to display the ball model, in conjunction with the triple track. I REALLY like the stock ball with the chev logo. I would rather they somehow integrate the ball model into the middle line of the triple track, or put it on the opposite side. The decision they made makes the ball seem a little hastily put together. 

    Second, I don’t love that the number color is the same on both the Tour and Tour x. It is really hard to tell them apart quickly for testing purposes. You have to really focus on the very tiny model print to see the x. If you were always playing the same model, which most do in practice, this is a non-issue. However, There is another qualm with the red they used on the number. It is a different red than the red in the triple track. It is very noticeable. The longer I spend with the balls, the more it bothers me. I wish they would pick one red hue and stick with it. 

    I am only deducting 2 points, at this stage, 1 for the mismatching reds and one for the model placement. Both numbers being red I don’t think is the biggest issue. Just noticeable in testing.
    Otherwise, the cover feels and reacts like premium urethane. The sound and feel I have liked so far. The Tour x is a little firmer than the Tour, but not extremely so. They both fit in between the Maxfli Tour x and the Maxfli Tour to me. The Chrome Tour x is noticeably softer feeling and sounding than the Prov1x.
    The Numbers (19 out of 20)
    I have only done spin and dispersion testing with a PW and 7-iron this far. Here are the results:

    I am not sure why the spin rates are so low. They are much lower than when I have used a trackman and vs my Ernest launch monitor. I have noticed that the Uneekor is consistently lower than most. Not sure if that is just their overhead system, or if it’s because it’s off a mat, which can skew spin lower, but it at least gives a reference. I also was striking the ball like absolute garbage this day and swinging quite slow, for me, so it’s really tough to judge. It took quite a few shots to get enough decent ones to get a good feel on the numbers. I will be doing this test with my Ernest as well, later in the test, after I do a long iron, lob wedge, and Driver on the Uneekor. 
    All that said, the Chrome Tour x has been a consistently high spinning ball. So far, I would say the regular Chrome Tour sits in a mid spin profile. It does seem to spin lower as the clubs get longer. I worry that could dip too low for me, but we will see. They both provide plenty of spin around the green, which I highlighted in a previous post. I think I could see myself going back to a Callaway ball if the performance continues.
    On The Course (? out of 20)
    I can’t rate on course performance yet. The weather in Utah hasn’t allowed for me to get them outside. After I finish spin testing, I will at least do some SIM course play.
    The Good, the bad, the inbetween (19 out of 20)
    The good: Very durable cover. The pics below for all 5 balls were after they were used from brand new. The Titleist and Maxflis only saw one sim session with warmup,  PW and 7iron, and already have some scuffs. The Callaways have been through multiple chipping sessions, and 2 sim sessions with wedges and irons. Each have the tiniest of little nicks. Totally playable, and I am planning on using the same 2 throughout the rest of my spin testing. Both balls are high performing, compared to other high-end competitors. The Tour x seems to be especially fast so far, as well.

    The bad: Mostly the ball model placement and color choices for the number and triple track, but YMMV.
    The in-between: The numbers on both models being red.
    Play it or Trade it? (20 out of 20)
    So far, the Callaway Chrome Tour line is an extremely impressive update to the Callaway ball family. If you find the right spin rates and performance for your game, these should be in consideration for anyone’s bag.
     
    Final Score (76 out of 80 so far)
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    MuniGolfer got a reaction from Indy_Oz in Forum Member Reviews: Callaway Whitebox Testing   
    Here's a little mid-point review. Things are looking good so far. Can't wait to give them some more knocks.
    First Impressions (500 Words) (10 out of 10)
    I posted on my first impressions, but here is my score.
    Aesthetics (8 out of 10)
    I am unsure how to score this. I am putting it at a 8, but I am not sure how I feel about that right now. I don’t love how they chose to display the ball model, in conjunction with the triple track. I REALLY like the stock ball with the chev logo. I would rather they somehow integrate the ball model into the middle line of the triple track, or put it on the opposite side. The decision they made makes the ball seem a little hastily put together. 

    Second, I don’t love that the number color is the same on both the Tour and Tour x. It is really hard to tell them apart quickly for testing purposes. You have to really focus on the very tiny model print to see the x. If you were always playing the same model, which most do in practice, this is a non-issue. However, There is another qualm with the red they used on the number. It is a different red than the red in the triple track. It is very noticeable. The longer I spend with the balls, the more it bothers me. I wish they would pick one red hue and stick with it. 

    I am only deducting 2 points, at this stage, 1 for the mismatching reds and one for the model placement. Both numbers being red I don’t think is the biggest issue. Just noticeable in testing.
    Otherwise, the cover feels and reacts like premium urethane. The sound and feel I have liked so far. The Tour x is a little firmer than the Tour, but not extremely so. They both fit in between the Maxfli Tour x and the Maxfli Tour to me. The Chrome Tour x is noticeably softer feeling and sounding than the Prov1x.
    The Numbers (19 out of 20)
    I have only done spin and dispersion testing with a PW and 7-iron this far. Here are the results:

    I am not sure why the spin rates are so low. They are much lower than when I have used a trackman and vs my Ernest launch monitor. I have noticed that the Uneekor is consistently lower than most. Not sure if that is just their overhead system, or if it’s because it’s off a mat, which can skew spin lower, but it at least gives a reference. I also was striking the ball like absolute garbage this day and swinging quite slow, for me, so it’s really tough to judge. It took quite a few shots to get enough decent ones to get a good feel on the numbers. I will be doing this test with my Ernest as well, later in the test, after I do a long iron, lob wedge, and Driver on the Uneekor. 
    All that said, the Chrome Tour x has been a consistently high spinning ball. So far, I would say the regular Chrome Tour sits in a mid spin profile. It does seem to spin lower as the clubs get longer. I worry that could dip too low for me, but we will see. They both provide plenty of spin around the green, which I highlighted in a previous post. I think I could see myself going back to a Callaway ball if the performance continues.
    On The Course (? out of 20)
    I can’t rate on course performance yet. The weather in Utah hasn’t allowed for me to get them outside. After I finish spin testing, I will at least do some SIM course play.
    The Good, the bad, the inbetween (19 out of 20)
    The good: Very durable cover. The pics below for all 5 balls were after they were used from brand new. The Titleist and Maxflis only saw one sim session with warmup,  PW and 7iron, and already have some scuffs. The Callaways have been through multiple chipping sessions, and 2 sim sessions with wedges and irons. Each have the tiniest of little nicks. Totally playable, and I am planning on using the same 2 throughout the rest of my spin testing. Both balls are high performing, compared to other high-end competitors. The Tour x seems to be especially fast so far, as well.

    The bad: Mostly the ball model placement and color choices for the number and triple track, but YMMV.
    The in-between: The numbers on both models being red.
    Play it or Trade it? (20 out of 20)
    So far, the Callaway Chrome Tour line is an extremely impressive update to the Callaway ball family. If you find the right spin rates and performance for your game, these should be in consideration for anyone’s bag.
     
    Final Score (76 out of 80 so far)
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    MuniGolfer got a reaction from Javs in Forum Member Reviews: Callaway Whitebox Testing   
    Here's a little mid-point review. Things are looking good so far. Can't wait to give them some more knocks.
    First Impressions (500 Words) (10 out of 10)
    I posted on my first impressions, but here is my score.
    Aesthetics (8 out of 10)
    I am unsure how to score this. I am putting it at a 8, but I am not sure how I feel about that right now. I don’t love how they chose to display the ball model, in conjunction with the triple track. I REALLY like the stock ball with the chev logo. I would rather they somehow integrate the ball model into the middle line of the triple track, or put it on the opposite side. The decision they made makes the ball seem a little hastily put together. 

    Second, I don’t love that the number color is the same on both the Tour and Tour x. It is really hard to tell them apart quickly for testing purposes. You have to really focus on the very tiny model print to see the x. If you were always playing the same model, which most do in practice, this is a non-issue. However, There is another qualm with the red they used on the number. It is a different red than the red in the triple track. It is very noticeable. The longer I spend with the balls, the more it bothers me. I wish they would pick one red hue and stick with it. 

    I am only deducting 2 points, at this stage, 1 for the mismatching reds and one for the model placement. Both numbers being red I don’t think is the biggest issue. Just noticeable in testing.
    Otherwise, the cover feels and reacts like premium urethane. The sound and feel I have liked so far. The Tour x is a little firmer than the Tour, but not extremely so. They both fit in between the Maxfli Tour x and the Maxfli Tour to me. The Chrome Tour x is noticeably softer feeling and sounding than the Prov1x.
    The Numbers (19 out of 20)
    I have only done spin and dispersion testing with a PW and 7-iron this far. Here are the results:

    I am not sure why the spin rates are so low. They are much lower than when I have used a trackman and vs my Ernest launch monitor. I have noticed that the Uneekor is consistently lower than most. Not sure if that is just their overhead system, or if it’s because it’s off a mat, which can skew spin lower, but it at least gives a reference. I also was striking the ball like absolute garbage this day and swinging quite slow, for me, so it’s really tough to judge. It took quite a few shots to get enough decent ones to get a good feel on the numbers. I will be doing this test with my Ernest as well, later in the test, after I do a long iron, lob wedge, and Driver on the Uneekor. 
    All that said, the Chrome Tour x has been a consistently high spinning ball. So far, I would say the regular Chrome Tour sits in a mid spin profile. It does seem to spin lower as the clubs get longer. I worry that could dip too low for me, but we will see. They both provide plenty of spin around the green, which I highlighted in a previous post. I think I could see myself going back to a Callaway ball if the performance continues.
    On The Course (? out of 20)
    I can’t rate on course performance yet. The weather in Utah hasn’t allowed for me to get them outside. After I finish spin testing, I will at least do some SIM course play.
    The Good, the bad, the inbetween (19 out of 20)
    The good: Very durable cover. The pics below for all 5 balls were after they were used from brand new. The Titleist and Maxflis only saw one sim session with warmup,  PW and 7iron, and already have some scuffs. The Callaways have been through multiple chipping sessions, and 2 sim sessions with wedges and irons. Each have the tiniest of little nicks. Totally playable, and I am planning on using the same 2 throughout the rest of my spin testing. Both balls are high performing, compared to other high-end competitors. The Tour x seems to be especially fast so far, as well.

    The bad: Mostly the ball model placement and color choices for the number and triple track, but YMMV.
    The in-between: The numbers on both models being red.
    Play it or Trade it? (20 out of 20)
    So far, the Callaway Chrome Tour line is an extremely impressive update to the Callaway ball family. If you find the right spin rates and performance for your game, these should be in consideration for anyone’s bag.
     
    Final Score (76 out of 80 so far)
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    MuniGolfer reacted to gregh729 in Forum Member Reviews: Callaway Whitebox Testing   
    4th Round
    I was going to combine Monday’s and Tuesday’s round but it seems easier to combine them. I played Tuesday using only the Chrome X. Same course, same tee box as I played Monday with the Tour
    Tuesday – Chrome Tour X:
    I like this ball but it definitely feels firmer than the Tour. Clickier off the clubface, but still have a lot of control. I think this will be a great ball in warmer weather of summer, very similar to how I feel about the ProV1x. I am still playing the original ball. 3 rounds and this still looks great.
    On average , my tee shots were ending up in the same area as I always do. Like I said in my last write up, I have played this course hundreds of times and know my tendencies. I hit 10 of 14 fairways again without losing a ball. This ball for me is a little more unpredictable or volatile. I hit 2 drives that were significantly longer than my average (15-20 yds), but also hit a couple spinners than dropped well short of average. I spin this ball more that the Tour. These findings are very similar to the ProV1 and ProV1x for me.
    I had no issues controlling my approach shots with irons. Distances again with irons were similar to what I am used to. I did not have to club up or club down on iron shots to compensate or have any ”hot“  shots.  8 greens hit. I had my usual one hop and stop on full shots.
    No real surprises around the greens. Feel on chipping and putting is firmer than the Chrome Tour but not rock hard. My chips had more spin and grabbed quicker than the Tour. I don’t play that shot usually so I ended up leaving many chips short. Putting distance was easy to control. The ball felt firm off the putter (Odyssey White Hot Versa Seven S) and had a little more run out on average than the Tour. I had 4 one-putts, all under 10ft, and 1 3-putts, from about 25 feet that got away from me and ran by about 6-7 feet. Another average day on the greens. I usually average around 33 putts a round and I’ve been right on that with both balls
    SUMMARY:
    I like this ball but don’t love it. I feel this ball has a lot of upside for someone with a higher swingspeed. It could be a beast in the summer off the driver. Ballflight with the irons is higher with more spin than the Tour. I don’t feel that same comfort level with the X. I had a few “WOW” drives, but also a few that spun too much and fell from the sky. I did not have the same consistency as I did with the Tour. It is a very good ball, but probably not the best for my game.
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    MuniGolfer reacted to gregh729 in Forum Member Reviews: Callaway Whitebox Testing   
    3rd Round
    Sorry for the lack of entries. A few “life” issues popped up this week with my 89 year old parents. Caring for your parents gets tough as they start having problems. I was able to play Monday and Tuesday this week in between doctor appointments for them. I used the Tour Chrome only on Monday and the Chrome X only on Tuesday. Same course, same tee box
    Monday – Chrome Tour:
    I like this ball more everytime I play it. Equal distance to what I was getting last year with ProV and others. Exceptional control. However it does not fix really terrible swings. I lost one today on a big push right. On the positive side, it was travelling at a high rate of speed when it went into the woods!
    Like I said previously, my tee shots were ending up in the same area as I always do. I have played this course hundreds of times and know my tendencies. I hit 10 of 14 fairways with the one lost ball. I am finding it easy to control this ball off the tee.
    Approach shots were easy to control. Distances with irons were similar to what I am used to. I did not have to club up or club down on iron shots to compensate. 9 greens hit. I don’t spin iron or wedge shots back. I usually have one hop and stop on full shots.
    No surprises around the greens. Feel on chipping and putting is softer than the ProV but firmer than the Chrome Soft. I like it very much. Chips had the roll out I wanted without grabbing too much. Putting distance was easy to control. The ball felt great off the putter (Odyssey White Hot Versa Seven S). I had 5 one-putts, all under 15ft, and 2 3-putts, each from over 50ft. It doesn’t matter what ball I used, I’d 3 putt those 9 times out of 10. All in all a very average day on the greens
    SUMMARY:
    I love this ball. It is extremely easy to control and has a great feel to it. My driver swingspeed is now around 95mph and this ball fits it perfectly. Great control on full shots with the driver and irons. The ball reacts the way I am used to on putts and chips. I had an instant comfort level with this ball. I didn’t have any one “wow” area with this ball, but it did everything I needed very well
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    MuniGolfer got a reaction from Rob Person in What Equipment Have You Tested?   
    I have the first gens and love them. Very consistent distance. I have no problem generating spin though.
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    MuniGolfer got a reaction from Owengeorge13 in What Equipment Have You Tested?   
    I have the first gens and love them. Very consistent distance. I have no problem generating spin though.
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    MuniGolfer reacted to Thoughland2444 in What Equipment Have You Tested?   
    Recently tried out the newer p770 irons and its really making me consider switching to a more forgiving set. What i really wasn't expecting was how good they felt. The only thing that concerned me a little bit was the spin not being high enough, the store i tried them in only had Project X iron shafts for the demos in x flex to try so I know that those shafts are not going to help with spin as much as others but the 7 iron was only spinning at around 4900 which to me is too low for a 7, I would like to see it at least around the high 5000's to 6000 rpm for that kind of iron. Would love to be able to try them again with different shaft options and a better ball to see the numbers because that is one nice iron I could easily play.
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    MuniGolfer got a reaction from ZackS in Forum Member Reviews: Callaway Whitebox Testing   
    Here's a little mid-point review. Things are looking good so far. Can't wait to give them some more knocks.
    First Impressions (500 Words) (10 out of 10)
    I posted on my first impressions, but here is my score.
    Aesthetics (8 out of 10)
    I am unsure how to score this. I am putting it at a 8, but I am not sure how I feel about that right now. I don’t love how they chose to display the ball model, in conjunction with the triple track. I REALLY like the stock ball with the chev logo. I would rather they somehow integrate the ball model into the middle line of the triple track, or put it on the opposite side. The decision they made makes the ball seem a little hastily put together. 

    Second, I don’t love that the number color is the same on both the Tour and Tour x. It is really hard to tell them apart quickly for testing purposes. You have to really focus on the very tiny model print to see the x. If you were always playing the same model, which most do in practice, this is a non-issue. However, There is another qualm with the red they used on the number. It is a different red than the red in the triple track. It is very noticeable. The longer I spend with the balls, the more it bothers me. I wish they would pick one red hue and stick with it. 

    I am only deducting 2 points, at this stage, 1 for the mismatching reds and one for the model placement. Both numbers being red I don’t think is the biggest issue. Just noticeable in testing.
    Otherwise, the cover feels and reacts like premium urethane. The sound and feel I have liked so far. The Tour x is a little firmer than the Tour, but not extremely so. They both fit in between the Maxfli Tour x and the Maxfli Tour to me. The Chrome Tour x is noticeably softer feeling and sounding than the Prov1x.
    The Numbers (19 out of 20)
    I have only done spin and dispersion testing with a PW and 7-iron this far. Here are the results:

    I am not sure why the spin rates are so low. They are much lower than when I have used a trackman and vs my Ernest launch monitor. I have noticed that the Uneekor is consistently lower than most. Not sure if that is just their overhead system, or if it’s because it’s off a mat, which can skew spin lower, but it at least gives a reference. I also was striking the ball like absolute garbage this day and swinging quite slow, for me, so it’s really tough to judge. It took quite a few shots to get enough decent ones to get a good feel on the numbers. I will be doing this test with my Ernest as well, later in the test, after I do a long iron, lob wedge, and Driver on the Uneekor. 
    All that said, the Chrome Tour x has been a consistently high spinning ball. So far, I would say the regular Chrome Tour sits in a mid spin profile. It does seem to spin lower as the clubs get longer. I worry that could dip too low for me, but we will see. They both provide plenty of spin around the green, which I highlighted in a previous post. I think I could see myself going back to a Callaway ball if the performance continues.
    On The Course (? out of 20)
    I can’t rate on course performance yet. The weather in Utah hasn’t allowed for me to get them outside. After I finish spin testing, I will at least do some SIM course play.
    The Good, the bad, the inbetween (19 out of 20)
    The good: Very durable cover. The pics below for all 5 balls were after they were used from brand new. The Titleist and Maxflis only saw one sim session with warmup,  PW and 7iron, and already have some scuffs. The Callaways have been through multiple chipping sessions, and 2 sim sessions with wedges and irons. Each have the tiniest of little nicks. Totally playable, and I am planning on using the same 2 throughout the rest of my spin testing. Both balls are high performing, compared to other high-end competitors. The Tour x seems to be especially fast so far, as well.

    The bad: Mostly the ball model placement and color choices for the number and triple track, but YMMV.
    The in-between: The numbers on both models being red.
    Play it or Trade it? (20 out of 20)
    So far, the Callaway Chrome Tour line is an extremely impressive update to the Callaway ball family. If you find the right spin rates and performance for your game, these should be in consideration for anyone’s bag.
     
    Final Score (76 out of 80 so far)
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    MuniGolfer reacted to Peejer in Maxfli Tour with Max Align Technology Golf Balls! - 2024 Forum Review   
    Hello to all the golfer's out there!
    My name is P.J., my closest friends shortened it to Peej and somewhere along the way it became Peejer.  Yes, much longer now...
    I'm originally from Akron, Ohio - but joined the Air Force after High School and lived (and golfed) around the world.  I 'retired' from the Air Force in 2004 and settled in Colorado where I went to work for Lockheed Martin as a Software/Systems Engineer.  Other than a short two-year stint in the Destin/Fort Walton Beach area, I've stayed in Colorado.  To help appease my desire for golf in the winter months - I put a simulator in my garage back in 2017.
    You might say I'm somewhat of a golf fanatic, despite working full-time still - I manage to get in 100+ rounds a year.  Last year was 111 rounds, in 2022 it was 123.  My highest total was 138 in back in 2016!  Another fun fact, despite the cold Colorado winters, I've managed to play at least one round every month of the year - this May will be my 20th year in a row.  Granted, December, January and February can be challenging, I've had to drive as far as 2 hours south to find a course open, but so far (fingers crossed), my streak continues!!
    I've played the Maxfli Tour balls before and really liked them.  I try to pick them up when the 4-dozen package goes on sale.  It's hard to beat the performance, quality and price combination.  I was most recently selected as a tester for the 2023 Titleist Whitebox Testing.  Having a simulator at home, I have the ability to do real numbers comparison - plus take the balls out on the course for real playability.  This test I plan to show the numbers comparison against the current Titleist ProV1, as the Maxfli Tour is the equivalent ball for comparison.
    The addition of the "MAX ALIGN" technology should suit my game.  My favorite ball right now is the Srixon Q-Star Tour Divide (Orange/Yellow) and I line up not only my putts, but also on the tee box to ensure I'm squared up to my target.  As an Engineer, I live in the numbers and I have my past years worth of putting stats for comparison.  It'll be interesting and fun to see how it all works out.  Additionally, I'll see if I can beat my putting record on my indoor putting green.  I'm looking forward to it.
    I haven't received the balls yet, but I wanted to get this thread started.  I'm off to Mesquite, Nevada in the morning to play 4 rounds of golf there.  I'll be back on Tuesday and I'm hopeful the balls will be waiting for me when I arrive.
    Please feel free to reach out with questions, comments or ideas about this new Maxfli Tour "MAX ALIGN" golf balls.  I look forward to hearing from you!
    -- Peejer
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    MuniGolfer reacted to GolfSpy AFG in Edel Array Putters . 2024 Forum Review   
    GolfSpy AFG's Review of the Edel Array Putter
    Introduction
    Hey everyone.  My name is Hayes, on the forum I go by GolfSpy AFG but only recently.  Prior to that my forum handle was:

    Alas, I had to grow up.  When I'm not playing golf, hanging out on the forum or trying to do my behind-the-scene Forum Leader stuff, I'm a husband and father, and an Airman...I've been on Active Duty in the Air Force for the past 22 years.

     
    My Golf and Putting Game
    As a golfer, I'm a fanatic and am constantly tinkering with workouts, speed training, and training aids trying to get better, because I rarely have time to get to the range or play.  Between the job and being a Dad to 3 active kids, it gets hard to get out.  When I do get on the course, I play to a 7 handicap and do halfway decent off the tee, below average on approach shots, above average on green-side short game shots, and I'm not a very good putter.  My Strokes Gained from GolfShot is a little skewed for lack of rounds from last year, but it does paint the picture:
      
    But, hope springs eternal for me and putting, thanks in large part to my selection to test an Edel Array Putter.  I'm going to save an in-depth fitting discussion for another post, but I should probably start with a confession that's near sacrilege on this forum: I've never actually been fit for a putter before! And, what I learned from the fitting above all was that my years-long insistence on a face-balanced putter was all wrong...I actually need 30-45 degrees of toe hang!  Here's a small peak at the SAM Lab fitting I got, wherein it showed I'm actually exceptionally consistent in my stroke, I just need a better fitting putter:

    My Pending Review
    Again, I'll post about my fitting experience soon in a thread update, but I'm planning to evaluate the Array on a number of fronts. The big 3 for me:
    1) Quality of fit.  Edel really emphasizes the extent to which their putters have to be fit to be effective.  I'll be comparing it against 3 of my old gamers to see if the fit does improve my overall performance, primarily through the use of Stack putting.
    2) Aim bias. Again, more on the fitting later, but the fitting diagnosed a left aim bias, which I do see on the course in what I've always interpreted as tendency to pull my putts.  According to Edel, I just need a better fit to correct or compensate for that aim bias, which is why they offer different alignment plates to help compensate for those biases.  I'll be tracking and comparing how well Edel's alignment plate concept actually results in corrected aim and alignment.
    3) Speed control. Again, the fitting...mine showed some tendencies in how I deliver the putter from a loft standpoint that, if corrected, SHOULD significantly improve my distance control. If I can improve my speed control, my Strokes Gained Putting should improve dramatically.
    But that's what's on my mind...you tell me, what do you want to know?  I'll be happy to answer any questions you might have as we go. Thread updates on what I'm currently gaming, how I intend to measure all of this, and oh yes, the fitting, are all coming in the next few days...
     
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    MuniGolfer reacted to Prodigal Duffer in Edel Array Putters . 2024 Forum Review   
    A Duffer’s Review of the Edel Array Putter by Prodigal Duffer
    Golf is stupid, so let’s make it fun.
    Let’s Roll it Out
    Hey there, MGS, my name is Steve a/k/a Prodigal Duffer. I am in my early 40s and live near Fort Worth, Texas. I have been playing golf for about two years. I used to play occasionally as a younger man, but gave it up for several reasons—mostly because I didn’t enjoy it. I had outsized expectations for my performance, which was especially comical given I had barely any coaching and I never practiced. I sold my clubs and didn’t give it a second thought.
    Fast forward to 2021, and my son enrolled in First Tee, found that he enjoyed it, and then convinced me to come back to the game (hence my forum handle). Unlike my younger days, I now recognize that golf is (like any sport) stupid, which is why it needs to be fun. And, now I play to have fun with my kids:

     
     
    I’ve been documenting the golf adventures with my kids over in The Prodigals. And, I’ve found golf to be quite fun, whether with my kids or with friends I’ve made through the game.
     
     
     
    Before I gave up golf, I thought I was a good putter, and I loved my flat stick. But, the putter was long gone and I needed something. Because I wasn’t sure golf would stick with my son (or me), I bought a cheap Odyssey Stroke Lab R-ball mallet putter. It’s been okay, but I feel like I pull putts to the left and have trouble gauging speed. I started keeping stats, and it turns out, I stink at just about everything, including putts:

     
     
     
    (This is limited data, but still, ouch).
     
     
     
     
    I suspected that part of my problem putting may be the stick, and planned to get a putter fitting this spring. When MGS announced the Edel Array test, I knew I wanted to participate. It would give me an excuse to get my fitting now and maybe help me improve my putting. 
    My testing will primarily have three components: on my Birdie Ball indoor green for testing alignment on less than 10’ putts; at the practice facility for lag putt/distance control (a strength of mine now); and, of course, on the golf course for scoring.
    As you can see, I tend to leave my putts short, especially on distances of less than 10 feet:
       
    I hope that the Edel Array helps me increase my make percentage on those putts and that my percentage of putts left short decreases substantially. On a more subjective note, I want to feel more confident in force of my stroke (I suspect that I leave putts short because the mallet looks heavy and I don’t want to blow past the hole). If the Edel can check these boxes, then there’s a high likelihood it becomes my gamer.
    Thanks to MGS, Edel, and to you, my fellow spies, for trusting me to participate in this test. I look forward to rolling those putts.
    First Impressions
    As I anxiously await the arrival of the Array, check out my fitting experience below:
     
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    MuniGolfer reacted to Hoyoymac in TPT Golf Shafts - 2024 Forum Review   
    Hoyoymac here from the coast of Georgia.  Retired to this area about ten years ago with my wife to golf and fish year round and I live about 40 miles South of Savannah, GA playing over 200 golf rounds a year most often at the Sapelo Hammock Golf Club.

    Despite this testing opportunity initially being offered only to Texas residents I was so excited to test the new TPT shafts that in my entry I volunteered to pay my own way to travel to Texas for the shaft fitting with Jon Sinclair.
    Thanks to MyGolfSpy and TPT Golf for recognizing my enthusiasm and allowing me to participate in this wonderful opportunity to get fitted for and test the newest TPT golf shafts.
    Why am I enthusiastic about TPT golf shafts?
    Over the last few years I’ve observed this start-up company come in to the golf world and quickly establish itself with the most discerning players on the PGA Tour, LPGA Tour, World Long Drive circuit. These players have tried, put into play and won with these shafts.
    I believe that the TPT Golf process to make golf shafts is a disruptive technology in the arena of golf shaft manufacturing.
    As a golfer looking to gain distance and reduce my down range dispersion this makes me eager to see for myself how these shafts will benefit me too.
    Here’s how my golf game looks at the moment:

    The three clubs that I will be testing the TPT Golf shafts in are:
    Driver - Cobra LTDx LS 9.0
    3 wood - Cobra LTDx 15 deg. 
    5 hybrid - Cobra LTDx 24 deg.
    My Arccos smart Distance with driver:
    This driver is currently paired with a Diamana ZF 60S shaft. Being played currently in the Neutral Draw setting.
    The 3 wood is paired with a Graphite Design Tour AD DI 7S shaft and is set to 16.5 degrees.  This has been the best fairway wood I’ve ever had.
    The 5 hybrid is paired with a Fujikura Fuel Hyb 85g Stiff shaft.  This hybrid has a bonded hosel, so I have just bought another one to receive the TPT Hybrid shaft that I get fit into in order to compare them.
    I will be testing these golf shafts both on the course using Arccos to track statistics and on the range using a Rapsodo MLM launch monitor to gather data.
    Also getting back to Swing Speed Training with the Stack System right now and will be trying to incorporate some of Martin Borgmeier’s protocols into my training.  Martin is currently using the TPT golf shafts to compete in World Long Drive events.

    The Fitting with Jon Sinclair is another exciting component of this shaft test.  These shafts are premium products and a comparable premium fitting just makes sense to get the most out of them.
    The shafts I’m currently playing are among the best quality available using traditional shaft manufacturing technology and processes.  I’ve been fit for them and they’ve been tweaked after the fitting through trial and error.
    It will be very interesting to see how the new TPT shafts compare!
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    MuniGolfer reacted to GolfSpy_APH in TPT Golf Shafts - 2024 Forum Review   
    About TPT Golf
    TPT's parent company, NTPT, is more than just a golf company. The Swiss-based company was not initially associated with the golfing world. With a background in making fine watches as well as marine, aerospace, motorsports and aeronautical parts, they transferred that knowledge and experience to the golfing world.
    TPT (Thin Ply Technology) has a fully integrated process for making their golf shafts, starting with their resin formulation and extending to the end result of shaft manufacturing. By maintaining control throughout the entire process and using automated processes, TPT shafts offer "no fiber off-axing, no parasitic bending during swings, and tight dispersion" by using continuous winding with "one start, one stop."
    TPT recently partnered with L.A.B. Golf to make specialized putter shafts, resulting in two wins on the PGA Tour and one on the Korn Ferry Tour.
    The science behind their golf shafts is impressive and has resulted in some bold claims which we want our members to put to the test.
    What Is Being Tested?
    TPT Golf released a series of golf shafts they call the "Power Range." The Power Range of shafts includes a driver, fairway wood and hybrid shaft meant to deliver a consistent feel in all three, allowing for "each shaft and swing to feel the same."
    This is where their "3 shafts,1 feel" slogan comes into play.
    "TPT's Fairway Wood Shafts aim to make fairway woods more forgiving and accessible for all players,” the company says. “We designed our fairway woods to achieve a higher ball flight than our driver shafts, improving golfers' performance. Utilizing the same technology as our drivers ensures consistent contact with your fairway woods on the clubface to create consistent results.
    “About our hybrids: We designed our hybrids to achieve a higher ball trajectory, aligned with our drivers and fairway woods shafts ball flight trajectory. Utilizing the same technology as our drivers and fairway woods, the three shafts will feel the same."

    Please welcome and congratulate our testers! 
    @William P
    @Hoyoymac
    @RoverRick
    @ZackS
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    MuniGolfer reacted to Bucky CC in Edel Array Putters . 2024 Forum Review   
    Hey everyone!  Bucky CC checking in from the great state of Wisconsin.  Before we get started I wanted to give a huge shout out and sincere thank you to MyGolfSpy, the MGS forum, fellow Spy’s big and small, and of course, Edel.  I’ve been lucky enough to do a few tests and every time they are the absolute highlight of my year.

    Here I am about to die while my son has the time of his life.
    I’ve been playing golf for more than 30 years now.  Started around age 10 in the backyard trying to be like my older brother and have been playing ever since.  I spent most of 2023 as a 4 handicap with all aspects of my game being fairly equal.  My home course has a lot of penalty areas off the tee, so when I keep the ball in play I tend to stay in the mid 70’s.

    You can see from the graphic above putting is actually one of my stronger traits.  But if that’s true, why have I had 12 putters going back to the last real fitting I had in 2011?  In order (to the best of my memory):
    Odyssey Dual Force 668, Odyssey Works #1 Wide Versa, Bettinardi Kuchar Model 1 (standard length), 2015 Ping Ketsch Mid, Evnroll ER2, Evnroll ER5

    Odyssey Stroke Lab Black 7 S, Odyssey Stroke Lab Black 7, TaylorMade Spider SR, PXG Battle Ready Bat Attack, Evnroll ER5 (black this time), Odyssey White Hot OG Stroke Lab 7

    As you can see, I’m a bit of a putter hoe (and have a things for Mallets in the #7 mold).  When I saw the testing opportunity for the Edel Array I thought I finally found the holy grail of tests for my game.  Not only would I be getting a new putter (lucky #13!), but I would have the opportunity to go through one of the most comprehensive fittings to build an extremely customized putter built to my exact specifications.
    I plan to test the Edel (model # to be determined) against my current Odyssey White Hot OG #7 indoors on putts up to 10.  Once the weather warms up a bit I’ll take things outdoors for a head to head battle and a look against over 175 rounds of Arccos data.
        
    My expectation is that the fitting will build an immediate trust level knowing the Array will be fit to my exact aiming tendencies, path bias, stroke type, etc.  I’m hoping to see immediate improvement on the greens from 10’ and in since I'll conceivably be lining up the putter correctly and have something that fits my exact stroke.
    My biggest worry at the moment is how the milled face will feel against the soft White Hot OG insert I spent all last year getting used to.  Long putts could be an issue for a while.
    And if everything falls apart and I stay the exact same I'll at least be able to prove that it’s not the putter, it’s the guy holding the club.

    Not sure if my teenage daughter would be impressed or horrified that I used a Taylor Swift gif
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    MuniGolfer reacted to StrokerAce in What Have You Bought Lately? (CHA - Club Ho's Anonymous)   
    decided to give "Temu" a try... I'm cautiously optimistic (car thing is for wife's new car... just in case she gets the package first 😉 
    they seem to have a lot of - what I'll call - golf trinkets, for a decent price.

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    MuniGolfer reacted to Erin B in Forum Member Reviews: Callaway Whitebox Testing   
    I cracked one. It was an 8 iron shot. This ball has been hit probably over 300 hundred times in the sim and on the course so I’m impressed. 

    I don’t know how it held up for that long. It was on the 14th hole too. 
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    MuniGolfer reacted to GolfSpy_APH in GolfSpy_APH - A Toura Golf Wedge Build   
    Meant to do this earlier, but here are some comp photos. Note that they are the Toura wedge 52, Cobra Trusty Rusty Tour 52, Mizuno S23 54 and PING Glide 2.0 54

     






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    MuniGolfer reacted to fixyurdivot in GolfSpy_APH - A Toura Golf Wedge Build   
    Nice overview of the clubs and build...another company I've never heard of.  The face milling looks real similar to the Glide 4.0 I tried at a recent demo day.  I really like the circular milling pattern.  Perhaps it serves no functional purpose, but it's cool.
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    MuniGolfer reacted to Javs in GolfSpy_APH - A Toura Golf Wedge Build   
    Great write up and pictures. Only one problem, they appear left handed…..ha ha
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