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Putter - SC armlock made custom - Safe, love the feel Wedges - old solas wedges - safe, love the sole Irons - Mavrik pro's w/steelfibers - pretty safe, but a bad round could change that Hybrids - Taylormade from like 7 years ago - safe, fill the gap they are supposed to 3 wood - Callaway epoch SZ 13.5 - NOT SAFE - I hate 3 woods Driver - Sim2 - NEVER safe

Wow, some of the responses here are super defensive of this OEM. It is highly unusual for an OEM golf company to use a counterweight under the grip to get a swing weight. If a company was doing that, I'd expect them to tell me since that is a weird solution to dealing with weight. In fact, some people don't like the feel of counterbalancing regardless of the swing weight. I would have expected them to tell you when you ordered that they would have to counterweight to get the length and SW correct. What you're really describing, in my opinion, is a set of clubs that's being made in an odd way. counterbalancing under the grip is not how I'd expect an OEM to get swing weights right. I don't think the shot scope sensors being installed is really the issue, I think the issue is the manufacturer counterweighted some clubs to hit swing weights, a very atypical way to accomplish that, without tell the customer. If that was the industry standard method, like adding tip weights to get a SW, I would get their response. But it's just not. As others have said, if you drill a tiny hole through the opening, you might be able to get the sensors in. I hear you though, I don't think this was appropriate or the correct way to build your set without your knowledge.

Guys, this is LITERALLY a thread discussing nothing but golfwrx issues that go back all the way to 2019, prior to me even coming. Issues of web design, BST, communication problems, membership declines, bad articles....etc. The good and the bad (including Issues) are what make a forum relevant or not. If you think golfwrx is doing all the right things and staying relevant, cool, you can feel that way. I don't have to agree, and since months ago I made a reference to censorship I figured it might be nice to circle back around and show a concrete example of something that happened over the weekend that many would deem censorship. Something you can't see as a user, because it's already missing. You can disagree and say it's all my fault, that's fine, but I also don't have to agree. And as almost a 20 year user over there, I fell like I have some perspective on what it was like being a member prior.

I was not proposing we discuss the PGA, PGAT, LIV, Block or Brooks in this thread. You're entitled to your opinion on all of that, and so am I. And no, your summary of what happened isn't accurate. But that's cool, I wasn't asking for an opinion. I was sharing what happened as an example of the changes at golfwrx.

I'm not trying to be confrontational, but honestly, I'm not sure what the point was in your response and I don't need suggestions on what to do. Sorry if I somehow made it seem otherwise. This is a thread discussing issues at Golfwrx, not a thread asking for other sites and forums to participate in. No one said they can't do what they want BUT, no one said we can't talk about it (here anyway, they won't let you talk about it over there). they are not being transparent in what they are doing and MO people should know. And there's no way to know unless someone comes along and posts these things, because it's all deleted or censored before you can read it. If you want to censor, even in the LIV thread, fine. If you want to make it so a LIV winner of a major can't be discussed because they come from a different tour, maybe don't have a thread about that championship if LIV players are in the field? But fine, we won't . for what it's worth, they seem to allow references to LIV in those thread(s), they just don't like any reference to LIV or any context that makes the PGA look bad.. And you're right, they can choose to do all those things, but I can also choose to share that they do it, right? Certainly, everyone will make up their own mind. They have a large number of members and I've been over there for a VERY long time. There is value over there, with ton's of club building info and experts who can help as well. BUT, I also think people should know this stuff is happening, because the way they are doing it is NOT transparent or obvious.

So I came back in this thread to post a specific example of what’s happening at golfwrx, because it's not really obvious at times on the outside: So when Brooks won the PGA, many of us were in the “PGA championship thread” discussing various parts of the tournament and the players. In one of my posts, I referenced the Block articles that were coming out and how the PGA has been trying to make that the story because a LIV golfer won “their” major. That post got deleted by the mods for containing LIV discussion (even though a LIV player won)….ok, maybe that one is my fault? There is a warning at the top of that thread saying “no liv discussions”. I didn’t think I was having a LIV discussion per se, but I’m not sure, maybe I was wrong to post it. Now, for context, it was coming up because there were people in the thread saying things like “block is the real story, no one will remember who won this PGA, we are all just going to remember block. The winner is so overshadowed by a much better story….”. Something many of us did not believe. And frankly, something that I’m not even sure is a real opinion, I kinda suspect these were from accounts that might be golfwrx mod accounts. But never the less … So later in the same thread, it came up again. So I said something like “the PGA is seeding the block articles because they don’t want to deal with another tour player winning one of their events, so they are trying to make a different story the highlight”. I didn’t reference LIV by name, just that the winner was from another tour. That post was deleted again by a mod, and I was formally warned and given a “demerit” on my account for discussing LIV. I messaged the moderator and asked what I did wrong in the second post, since I never named liv, as of right now, they still have not answered. Ok….so the instructions at the top of the forum say “if you want to say things about liv, do it in “the official” liv thread”. I wanted to discuss the PGA championship, but no big deal, I’ll move over to the other thread. At this point, the PGA Tour instagram account has like 20 block references, and nothing about Brooks, even some of the instagram users were starting to give the PGAT crap about not discussing the winner. Anyway, I move over to the LIV thread, and I post a similar message asking if others felt the Block story was the thing the PGA wants to be popular since they don’t want to deal with a LIV player winning one of the majors and the implication that has on the strength of fields if LIV players aren’t invited to compete. Blah blah blah…. But here’s the kicker, the LIV thread is a special kind of thread that ONLY allows posts to appear IF they get approved by a moderator. As of right now, that post is still not approved and will not post to the thread. My guess from prior experience, it won’t ever be approved and will never appear. That's what I’m referring to when I say that GOLFWRX is quietly censoring the forum since their relationship with the PGA kicked in. If they don't like the thing you want to discuss, they just delete the posts and/or never approve them.

Wear whatever colors you want. Why should anyone else care?

Again, I clearly said the aren't irrelevant, so.....? I'm sorry, but they are controlling the narrative. I know from personal experience, I've had posts rejected by moderators that had NOTHING to do with politics, and were not attacks on anyone. I've talked with other long time members in private, they've had the same exact experiences. There are entire sections of threads that get deleted, I know you don't realize that because they are already missing when you read them, but for those of us in them it makes no sense. They were not attacks, they were discussions about marketing ethics, or some other thing they don't like. or simply saying things like the positives that were in a broadcast. So I completely disagree based on the actual experience I've had with rejected posts, closed threads, etc. I understand the need to stop personal attacks and political nonsense, but that's not what they are doing. And with the PGA sponsorship, it's becoming more obvious they don't want LIV conversations. For example, we can have 100 threads discussing the minutia of the PGA tour, but all "liv tour" discussions have to be in 1 thread? I'm not sure what your point really was, they certainly are relevant. They will be especially relevant to people obsessed with the PGA tour, given the access they are likely going to get. I obviously don't agree with you about their control over the content, I've seen first hand, if they don't want something discussed they shut it down or take the posts out. And they aren't attacks on anything or anyone (except the PGA tour at times, or marketing ethics of some manufacturers, etc). As for BST, maybe it's inevitable but it doesn't change the fact that it stinks.

No worries, I was just clarifying. Yeah, I think that's a fair criticism. I've been a member over there a long time, and at times I've participated a lot. In that experience, I think I learned there are a handful of members that seem to like being short and disruptive (probably the same in most large forums). There's also a set of members who are just 100% dug-in on their opinions, and will repetitively post about it again and again. There's also some "guru" members, who frankly, are sometimes helpful, and sometimes sharing opinion (it's hard to tell sometimes). For example, back when adjustable driver hosels came out there was a premier member over there who kept posting all these "informational" posts about how they didn't work and didn't do anything. Of course, they provided a "wood lie and loft adjustment service" and sold their own line of bendable woods. So.....you can decide what that was about. I think the largest change that I've seen over there is in the BST. That used to be one of the best places for getting deals on really unique stuff. But now, it's more like people dumping stuff at MSRP that they found in an outlet or at a pawn shop. Or let's be real, it's industry folks using their purchase discounts and then reselling at MSRP. Anyway, it's the most disappointing part of the changes for me.

I think a smarter use of your time as a player is to learn how to ignore the other players and focus. I don't care what anyone says, I'm not listening when I'm playing.

I definitely didn't say I thought golfWRX was irrelevant, however I do think they are changing significantly. If it's for the good or bad is out for debate, but many of us over there are not super happy and have been withdrawing. IMO censoring conversations, not because they are political or inappropriate, but because you have an agreement with another entity that doesn't like them is NOT for the betterment of the game, that's for the betterment of the owners of both. Some of us are starting to feel like there's a whole lot of "BS speak" going on over there.

So it's interesting, I think this topic should be revived. Golfwrx has been censoring their content now for a while, more and more threads require "moderator" approval to post in, so they can control the narrative we discuss. In addition, they now just signed an "exclusive" deal with the PGA tour to get access to the WITB photos, BUT, the consequence is it seems we can't really discus or reference the LIV tour at all. In addition to them scrubbing out the LIV content in the tour discussions, there are several members over there who are very aggressive about bashing LIV if you bring it up, almost to the point of stupidity. It would not surprise me if those "users" are really admin accounts that they use to direct the conversations outside the normal administrative channels. The BST used to be a huge draw. Lots of neat stuff and great deals. But lately, it's more likely to see people asking MSRP for everything OR you find pages of SWAG crap....super expensive premium brands, funny enough, asking more than retail in many instances. It's just become something it never was. Overall I'm not sure where this new "pga only" strategy is going to lead them. The aggressive content monitoring though has gotten very off-putting. And the BST has become irrelevant, honestly there are better deals on Ebay most of the time now. It seems to be another "moment of change" for Golfwrx.