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    Navart got a reaction from Beakbryce in Caley Golf Irons & Driving Iron - 2023 Forum Review   
    - Introduction: 
    First, I want to send out a huge thank you to MGS Forum staff and @Caley for giving me the opportunity to test out and review this set of irons. I never thought I would get to be a part of these reviews, so when the staff reached out, there was no way that I could turn them down. I am very excited about the opportunity to try out the Caley 01 irons, I not sure without this opportunity, I’d ever get a chance to test out one of these direct to consumer golf sets. Not sure I could pull the trigger on a set of clubs that I can’t at least hit in a bay before deciding to purchase. 

    - Who am I? 

    Hello spies, my name is Jeff Ross. I live in Radford, VA along with my beautiful wife Jill and my 7-year-old son Liam. I am a bingo supply salesman in Virginia and West Virginia. I enjoy spending time traveling with my family, fishing, golf, working out and the outdoors. I'm a die hard UNC Tarheels fan, this where my screenname uncross derives from. I’ve lived in a golf course community for the last 3 years but unfortunately, I have never played the course, but plan on playing it soon, its a beautiful course.
    Pete Dye River Course -

     
     
    I started playing golf when I was in college in the late 90’s. Although I played a lot, I never really improved very much. I just enjoyed playing with my buddies and never took the game too seriously. I gave up about a dozen years or so after getting married and moving back to Southwest Virginia. I started fishing more and more, and really got into bass fishing tournaments for several years. 

    - My current game. 

    A few months ago, I decided to take my son on a round of golf with my dad for some quality grandpa time! Liam only made about 7 holes, but in those 7 holes I found the passion for the sport that I hadn’t felt in a long time. I decided to give golf another try. It is also awesome playing with my dad and spending so much more time with him that I probably wouldn’t have gotten the chance to without being together on the course. 

    I'm joining the golf course in my hometown and planning on playing a lot of golf in 2024.
    Blue Ridge Country Club-

    My game is definitely a work in progress! I have around a 20 handicap, but don’t think I’ve played a round yet since starting back without at least a few mulligans. Driver is my biggest struggle on the course. My only confident club is my 56-degree wedge.  My struggles with my irons are a push fade to the right or topping the ball

     
     
    - Testing Plans 
    I hope to get a chance to test these irons out as much as possible. I plan on renting a trackman bay a couple times to get as much data as I can with it being winter and the holidays. I hope to get out on the course a couple times or more during this testing process. I will be focused mainly on seeing how they compare to my 20-year-old TaylorMade RAC OS irons. 
    1) Consistency- especially on distance for each club.  Making sure that the ball goes relatively the same distance on every shot  and not once in a while there is a ball that goes 15-20 yards farther than the previous 10 shots or so with the same club.
    2) Ball Flight- I really like a high ball flight with my irons. 
    3) Feel and Sound 
    4) Forgiveness – How bad are my mishits.  

    - What will it take to earn a spot in my bag 
    If the Caley 01 are more consistent and forgiving than my current TaylorMade irons, they will definitely get a shot at staying in my bag. The biggest factors will be how forgiving they are on mishits and how many more greens I can hit. The bottom line is that if they help me lower my scores, they will be in my bag. I also have a set of Ping G430’s on the way for Christmas, so I will get to do all this testing again after the Holidays! 
    - Unboxing and First Impressions - (16/20)
     
    I've been waiting like a kid at Christmas for the Caley 01's to arrive!  Unfortunately the day I arrived I was swamped with youth sports and licensing forms for an upcoming merger.  So the unboxing had to wait until the following day.

    When finally getting a chance to tear into the box, I was stunned at the aesthetics of these irons.  They are stunning! I love the minimalist design and appearance.  I was truly impressed with how these looked out of the box.

    Even thought these irons had been previously test, and I didn't get pull all the plastic wrappings off of them, I felt like Christmas had come early!  


    These irons truly look stunning in hand, at address, and in the bag!


    First Impressions -
    When the MySpy forum guys contacted me about testing some Caley irons, it couldn't have been a worse time for me to do a test and review, but I was taught at a young age to never let an opportunity pass you by, you never know what it might lead to, so I said yes I would love to do it.  This was my first testing opportunity as well as my fist interaction with any DTC golf clubs.
    Honestly I had never heard of Caley golf or the 01 irons, but did as much research as I could after excepting the review.  I watched several YouTube videos and read what reviews I could find.  Everything I read and watched  were really positive. 

    First Impressions
    When I opened the box, my first thoughts were wow!, these are nice looking clubs.  They are just smooth, a very clean look.  Much nicer that I would have ever expected at this price point.  To me they look much more expensive and look closer to a players irons that most of the game improvement irons that I have been looking at in stores.  I really think they would sell a lot more of these if the average person could put their hands and eyes on them before they purchased them.  I posted pictures on Facebook and had several people asking about them.






    Initial Thoughts
    So far after a few testing opportunities, I'm not sure that I could be too much more impressed with these irons so far.  The looks are amazing! The feel is very soft with a low click sound, dispersions have been better that my current gamers, Distance for most clubs is a little farther than my TaylorMade Rac Os irons.  Here are some of the statements made by Caley golf on their website and social medial and how well those statements have held up with my testing so far.

     
    - Super Easy To Hit
    So far in limited testing, I have found the irons easy to hit, especially 7 iron through pw.  I am really struggling with with 4, 5, and 6 irons right now. 
    - Lightning Fast Ball Speeds
    I'm not sure how to calculate lightning fast ball speeds but for the most part, I have found higher speeds with the Caley 01 irons than with my current irons

    - Pin Point Accuracy 
    With my golf swing, no club will have pin point accuracy, but so far I have been more than impressed with the accuracy of these Caley 01 irons.  Most of the trackman dispersion charts were much better with the Caley's. Below are the 8 iron and 9 iron comparison between the Rac Os and the Caley 01 irons.  The 1 round of nine holes that I have played on the course with the Caley irons was very impressive for me.  I hit 3 greens in regulation and scored 4 strokes below my average on the front 9 at my home course since starting back into golf several months ago.
    8 Iron dispersion Caley Blue Rac Yellow

    9 iron dispersion Caley Green, Rac Blue

    - Explosive distance
    On most clubs so far, the Caley 01's have carried a tad farther than the Rac OS, but I'm not quite sure I would consider it explosive.

    - Extreme Forgiveness
    I would say that so far I agree with the forgiveness on irons 7-pw.  They are by far the most forgiving irons that I have ever hit.  Still having trouble with the long irons.
    - High Launch
    Trackman data was pretty similar to my Rac os irons.
    -Soft Feel
    Very soft feel with a quiet click sound on contact
     
    Few Concerns. (Where I subtracted points) 
    My first concern is ho badly I am hitting the long irons.  Worse than I normally hit my RAC 5 and 6 irons.  This could be me and my swing and just limited swings with these irons, but at this point its a little concerning.
    Number 2 could be me being a little picky, but I do worry a little about the durability of the irons.  I was not the first tester of this set of clubs, and when they arrived they had a few dings and scratches on them that looked deeper that anything on my 20 year old Rac's.  Also just cosmetic but the paint is coming off of several of the numbers on the irons


    Overall, I am really impressed with these irons so far, especially the value at only $549 
    - AESTHETICS (9/10)
    These clubs are stunning to look at! The best descriptive I can come up with is just very clean appearance.  I really like the minimalist approach to these irons.  They look great in the bag, in my hands and at address during shots.  I prefer the appearance of the Caley 01 irons over my TaylorMade Rac Os irons and my Ping g430's.


    The Caley 01 irons have an appearance of a players iron to me.  They are similar in appearance to some of the other popular direct to consumer iron sets out on the market.  The Caley 01 irons are a tad smaller than my TaylorMade irons, but with an equally thick top line.


     


    The Caley 01 irons have a very soft feel off the face.  Definitely notice a difference if the feel of a center struck ball compared to one off the heel or toe.  Sound off the club is a nice quiet click. 
    -The Numbers (9/10)
    I was blown away by the performance of the Caley 01 irons during the simulator sessions.  The irons were easy to hit and performed much better that I expected. 
    -Accuracy
    The Caley irons made it easy, even for a golfer like myself to hit the target, or at least in the area of the target.  The dispersion charts with the Caley 01 irons were some of the best that I have ever had.  
    Caley 01 8 iron

    Caley 01 9 iron

    -Distance
    Distance for me with the Caley 01 irons was on Par with my TaylorMade Rac irons.  I didn't notice much of a difference in the two.  Distances were consistent, There were not any flyers that went 20 + yards farther than the other shots.
    9 iron dispersion chart Rac os vs Caley 01
     
    -Trajectory 
    I would rate the Caley irons as Mid trajectory.  I did not seem to hit them quite as high as my current irons.
    PW Trajectory Chart (Caley blue - TaylorMade red)

     
    - Forgiveness and Control
    Forgiveness and control are the areas where these clubs shine.  Miss hits off the heel or toe didn't end up far off target and the distance didn't seem to drop off.  I found these iron very easy to hit.  Point and shoot, make a good swing and hit your target.
    The only point I took off was for the 4 and 5 irons.  I struggled to hit them at all in the simulator.  Very poor strikes, no distance and far right dispersion.
    -On-Course (18 out of 20)
    Performance in the simulator sessions carried over nicely on the course.  The forgiveness of the irons were the best that I have ever hit.  I hit far more greens than I did with my previous gamer irons.  My misses were much closer to the green also .  Still had lots of fat chunks and tops, but that is just bad swings on my part.
    I played rounds hitting multiple shots from the same distance with both the Caley 01 irons and my current gamer irons.  The forgiveness and  accuracy of the Caley 01 irons would have saved me several shots a round compared to my current games.
    One again the only negative is the trouble with the long irons carried over to on course issues also.  I really struggled to hit the 4 and 5 irons at all.  Dead right or thin and short .
    -The Good, the bad, the in-between (20 out of 20)
    Caley's website describes the 01 series of irons as the perfect blend of precision, power and feel for golfers of all levels. Performance benefits: explosive distance, extreme forgiveness, 

    The good-
    Priced at only $549, the Caley 01 irons are an exceptional value in my opinion.  They are a stunning set of irons, I posted pictures of them on Facebook and had several people inquiring about them.  I found them them extremely easy to hit. In terms of the OEM claims on the good side:
    - Extreme forgiveness.  I found this to be one of the best qualities so far with the irons.  They have been much more forgiving than my current gamers.  Miss hits are near the the target and no where near as far right.
    - Soft Feel.  I really like the feel of these irons.  In my opinion they are very soft for a game improvement iron.  They have a nice soft feel on contact with a light click sound.
    - Spin Control.  Not sure if a player of my abilities controls the spin or not, but these irons seem to have a lot of spin.  I landed one shot on the green 10-15 yards and spun it back completely off the green from 150 yards out.  I've never put that kind of back spin on the ball before.
    The in-between- 
    - Explosive distance.  I found the distance good with the Caley irons but I wouldn't quite call it explosive.  Distance was very similar to my current gamer irons.
    - High launch.  Once again I think the launch is ok, but ball flight doesn't seem to be quite as high as my current gamer irons.  
    The Bad- 
    The only thing I can really say that could possibly be bad about the irons is that mine had some paint coming off of some of the numbers and some of the dings and scratches from the previous tester makes me a little concerned about the durability of the Caley 01 irons.
     
    - Play it or Trade it? (20 out of 20)
    The Caley 01 irons are definitely a play it for me.  With the forgiveness and ease of hitting, that have brought confidence to myself at address for iron shots.  These irons are the easiest irons that I have ever had in my hands.  The forgiveness of them makes me a better golfer and is helping me lower my scores.   They are a great value at only $549 for the set.  I can't speak for any other kind of golfer other than myself, but they are a great set for a high handicapper or beginner.
     
    -Conclusion
    When I received the opportunity to review these irons, I thought to myself, who really wants to read a review from someone who is just getting back into golf after a dozen years or so and is a pretty bad golfer.  I hope people who are similar high handicappers like myself.  The Caley 01 irons are a perfect set for someone starting out, someone just getting back into the game like myself or anyone else who needs a very forgiving set of irons. The Caley 01 irons checked every box for me.  Aesthetically they are clean and stunning to look at.  Performance wise, these irons have me playing better.  They are extremely forgiving and easy to hit.  The irons produce good distance with lots of spin and a soft feel.  I wasn't sure what to expect from a direct to consumer product that I hadn't previously heard of, but for a game improvement set of irons, I feel Caley has knocked it out of the park.  They are also an extremely good value at $549.
     -Final Score (92 out of 100)
    -Posts, Reviews, Updates-
    First Testing on Trackman - Dec 21
    First on the Course testing - Dec 23
    Update Dec 25
    Initial Thoughts - Jan 1
    Simulator Jan 10
    On the Course - Jan 27
    On the Course - Feb 2
     
     
     
     
     
     
     




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    Navart got a reaction from ejgaudette in Caley Golf Irons & Driving Iron - 2023 Forum Review   
    - Introduction: 
    First, I want to send out a huge thank you to MGS Forum staff and @Caley for giving me the opportunity to test out and review this set of irons. I never thought I would get to be a part of these reviews, so when the staff reached out, there was no way that I could turn them down. I am very excited about the opportunity to try out the Caley 01 irons, I not sure without this opportunity, I’d ever get a chance to test out one of these direct to consumer golf sets. Not sure I could pull the trigger on a set of clubs that I can’t at least hit in a bay before deciding to purchase. 

    - Who am I? 

    Hello spies, my name is Jeff Ross. I live in Radford, VA along with my beautiful wife Jill and my 7-year-old son Liam. I am a bingo supply salesman in Virginia and West Virginia. I enjoy spending time traveling with my family, fishing, golf, working out and the outdoors. I'm a die hard UNC Tarheels fan, this where my screenname uncross derives from. I’ve lived in a golf course community for the last 3 years but unfortunately, I have never played the course, but plan on playing it soon, its a beautiful course.
    Pete Dye River Course -

     
     
    I started playing golf when I was in college in the late 90’s. Although I played a lot, I never really improved very much. I just enjoyed playing with my buddies and never took the game too seriously. I gave up about a dozen years or so after getting married and moving back to Southwest Virginia. I started fishing more and more, and really got into bass fishing tournaments for several years. 

    - My current game. 

    A few months ago, I decided to take my son on a round of golf with my dad for some quality grandpa time! Liam only made about 7 holes, but in those 7 holes I found the passion for the sport that I hadn’t felt in a long time. I decided to give golf another try. It is also awesome playing with my dad and spending so much more time with him that I probably wouldn’t have gotten the chance to without being together on the course. 

    I'm joining the golf course in my hometown and planning on playing a lot of golf in 2024.
    Blue Ridge Country Club-

    My game is definitely a work in progress! I have around a 20 handicap, but don’t think I’ve played a round yet since starting back without at least a few mulligans. Driver is my biggest struggle on the course. My only confident club is my 56-degree wedge.  My struggles with my irons are a push fade to the right or topping the ball

     
     
    - Testing Plans 
    I hope to get a chance to test these irons out as much as possible. I plan on renting a trackman bay a couple times to get as much data as I can with it being winter and the holidays. I hope to get out on the course a couple times or more during this testing process. I will be focused mainly on seeing how they compare to my 20-year-old TaylorMade RAC OS irons. 
    1) Consistency- especially on distance for each club.  Making sure that the ball goes relatively the same distance on every shot  and not once in a while there is a ball that goes 15-20 yards farther than the previous 10 shots or so with the same club.
    2) Ball Flight- I really like a high ball flight with my irons. 
    3) Feel and Sound 
    4) Forgiveness – How bad are my mishits.  

    - What will it take to earn a spot in my bag 
    If the Caley 01 are more consistent and forgiving than my current TaylorMade irons, they will definitely get a shot at staying in my bag. The biggest factors will be how forgiving they are on mishits and how many more greens I can hit. The bottom line is that if they help me lower my scores, they will be in my bag. I also have a set of Ping G430’s on the way for Christmas, so I will get to do all this testing again after the Holidays! 
    - Unboxing and First Impressions - (16/20)
     
    I've been waiting like a kid at Christmas for the Caley 01's to arrive!  Unfortunately the day I arrived I was swamped with youth sports and licensing forms for an upcoming merger.  So the unboxing had to wait until the following day.

    When finally getting a chance to tear into the box, I was stunned at the aesthetics of these irons.  They are stunning! I love the minimalist design and appearance.  I was truly impressed with how these looked out of the box.

    Even thought these irons had been previously test, and I didn't get pull all the plastic wrappings off of them, I felt like Christmas had come early!  


    These irons truly look stunning in hand, at address, and in the bag!


    First Impressions -
    When the MySpy forum guys contacted me about testing some Caley irons, it couldn't have been a worse time for me to do a test and review, but I was taught at a young age to never let an opportunity pass you by, you never know what it might lead to, so I said yes I would love to do it.  This was my first testing opportunity as well as my fist interaction with any DTC golf clubs.
    Honestly I had never heard of Caley golf or the 01 irons, but did as much research as I could after excepting the review.  I watched several YouTube videos and read what reviews I could find.  Everything I read and watched  were really positive. 

    First Impressions
    When I opened the box, my first thoughts were wow!, these are nice looking clubs.  They are just smooth, a very clean look.  Much nicer that I would have ever expected at this price point.  To me they look much more expensive and look closer to a players irons that most of the game improvement irons that I have been looking at in stores.  I really think they would sell a lot more of these if the average person could put their hands and eyes on them before they purchased them.  I posted pictures on Facebook and had several people asking about them.






    Initial Thoughts
    So far after a few testing opportunities, I'm not sure that I could be too much more impressed with these irons so far.  The looks are amazing! The feel is very soft with a low click sound, dispersions have been better that my current gamers, Distance for most clubs is a little farther than my TaylorMade Rac Os irons.  Here are some of the statements made by Caley golf on their website and social medial and how well those statements have held up with my testing so far.

     
    - Super Easy To Hit
    So far in limited testing, I have found the irons easy to hit, especially 7 iron through pw.  I am really struggling with with 4, 5, and 6 irons right now. 
    - Lightning Fast Ball Speeds
    I'm not sure how to calculate lightning fast ball speeds but for the most part, I have found higher speeds with the Caley 01 irons than with my current irons

    - Pin Point Accuracy 
    With my golf swing, no club will have pin point accuracy, but so far I have been more than impressed with the accuracy of these Caley 01 irons.  Most of the trackman dispersion charts were much better with the Caley's. Below are the 8 iron and 9 iron comparison between the Rac Os and the Caley 01 irons.  The 1 round of nine holes that I have played on the course with the Caley irons was very impressive for me.  I hit 3 greens in regulation and scored 4 strokes below my average on the front 9 at my home course since starting back into golf several months ago.
    8 Iron dispersion Caley Blue Rac Yellow

    9 iron dispersion Caley Green, Rac Blue

    - Explosive distance
    On most clubs so far, the Caley 01's have carried a tad farther than the Rac OS, but I'm not quite sure I would consider it explosive.

    - Extreme Forgiveness
    I would say that so far I agree with the forgiveness on irons 7-pw.  They are by far the most forgiving irons that I have ever hit.  Still having trouble with the long irons.
    - High Launch
    Trackman data was pretty similar to my Rac os irons.
    -Soft Feel
    Very soft feel with a quiet click sound on contact
     
    Few Concerns. (Where I subtracted points) 
    My first concern is ho badly I am hitting the long irons.  Worse than I normally hit my RAC 5 and 6 irons.  This could be me and my swing and just limited swings with these irons, but at this point its a little concerning.
    Number 2 could be me being a little picky, but I do worry a little about the durability of the irons.  I was not the first tester of this set of clubs, and when they arrived they had a few dings and scratches on them that looked deeper that anything on my 20 year old Rac's.  Also just cosmetic but the paint is coming off of several of the numbers on the irons


    Overall, I am really impressed with these irons so far, especially the value at only $549 
    - AESTHETICS (9/10)
    These clubs are stunning to look at! The best descriptive I can come up with is just very clean appearance.  I really like the minimalist approach to these irons.  They look great in the bag, in my hands and at address during shots.  I prefer the appearance of the Caley 01 irons over my TaylorMade Rac Os irons and my Ping g430's.


    The Caley 01 irons have an appearance of a players iron to me.  They are similar in appearance to some of the other popular direct to consumer iron sets out on the market.  The Caley 01 irons are a tad smaller than my TaylorMade irons, but with an equally thick top line.


     


    The Caley 01 irons have a very soft feel off the face.  Definitely notice a difference if the feel of a center struck ball compared to one off the heel or toe.  Sound off the club is a nice quiet click. 
    -The Numbers (9/10)
    I was blown away by the performance of the Caley 01 irons during the simulator sessions.  The irons were easy to hit and performed much better that I expected. 
    -Accuracy
    The Caley irons made it easy, even for a golfer like myself to hit the target, or at least in the area of the target.  The dispersion charts with the Caley 01 irons were some of the best that I have ever had.  
    Caley 01 8 iron

    Caley 01 9 iron

    -Distance
    Distance for me with the Caley 01 irons was on Par with my TaylorMade Rac irons.  I didn't notice much of a difference in the two.  Distances were consistent, There were not any flyers that went 20 + yards farther than the other shots.
    9 iron dispersion chart Rac os vs Caley 01
     
    -Trajectory 
    I would rate the Caley irons as Mid trajectory.  I did not seem to hit them quite as high as my current irons.
    PW Trajectory Chart (Caley blue - TaylorMade red)

     
    - Forgiveness and Control
    Forgiveness and control are the areas where these clubs shine.  Miss hits off the heel or toe didn't end up far off target and the distance didn't seem to drop off.  I found these iron very easy to hit.  Point and shoot, make a good swing and hit your target.
    The only point I took off was for the 4 and 5 irons.  I struggled to hit them at all in the simulator.  Very poor strikes, no distance and far right dispersion.
    -On-Course (18 out of 20)
    Performance in the simulator sessions carried over nicely on the course.  The forgiveness of the irons were the best that I have ever hit.  I hit far more greens than I did with my previous gamer irons.  My misses were much closer to the green also .  Still had lots of fat chunks and tops, but that is just bad swings on my part.
    I played rounds hitting multiple shots from the same distance with both the Caley 01 irons and my current gamer irons.  The forgiveness and  accuracy of the Caley 01 irons would have saved me several shots a round compared to my current games.
    One again the only negative is the trouble with the long irons carried over to on course issues also.  I really struggled to hit the 4 and 5 irons at all.  Dead right or thin and short .
    -The Good, the bad, the in-between (20 out of 20)
    Caley's website describes the 01 series of irons as the perfect blend of precision, power and feel for golfers of all levels. Performance benefits: explosive distance, extreme forgiveness, 

    The good-
    Priced at only $549, the Caley 01 irons are an exceptional value in my opinion.  They are a stunning set of irons, I posted pictures of them on Facebook and had several people inquiring about them.  I found them them extremely easy to hit. In terms of the OEM claims on the good side:
    - Extreme forgiveness.  I found this to be one of the best qualities so far with the irons.  They have been much more forgiving than my current gamers.  Miss hits are near the the target and no where near as far right.
    - Soft Feel.  I really like the feel of these irons.  In my opinion they are very soft for a game improvement iron.  They have a nice soft feel on contact with a light click sound.
    - Spin Control.  Not sure if a player of my abilities controls the spin or not, but these irons seem to have a lot of spin.  I landed one shot on the green 10-15 yards and spun it back completely off the green from 150 yards out.  I've never put that kind of back spin on the ball before.
    The in-between- 
    - Explosive distance.  I found the distance good with the Caley irons but I wouldn't quite call it explosive.  Distance was very similar to my current gamer irons.
    - High launch.  Once again I think the launch is ok, but ball flight doesn't seem to be quite as high as my current gamer irons.  
    The Bad- 
    The only thing I can really say that could possibly be bad about the irons is that mine had some paint coming off of some of the numbers and some of the dings and scratches from the previous tester makes me a little concerned about the durability of the Caley 01 irons.
     
    - Play it or Trade it? (20 out of 20)
    The Caley 01 irons are definitely a play it for me.  With the forgiveness and ease of hitting, that have brought confidence to myself at address for iron shots.  These irons are the easiest irons that I have ever had in my hands.  The forgiveness of them makes me a better golfer and is helping me lower my scores.   They are a great value at only $549 for the set.  I can't speak for any other kind of golfer other than myself, but they are a great set for a high handicapper or beginner.
     
    -Conclusion
    When I received the opportunity to review these irons, I thought to myself, who really wants to read a review from someone who is just getting back into golf after a dozen years or so and is a pretty bad golfer.  I hope people who are similar high handicappers like myself.  The Caley 01 irons are a perfect set for someone starting out, someone just getting back into the game like myself or anyone else who needs a very forgiving set of irons. The Caley 01 irons checked every box for me.  Aesthetically they are clean and stunning to look at.  Performance wise, these irons have me playing better.  They are extremely forgiving and easy to hit.  The irons produce good distance with lots of spin and a soft feel.  I wasn't sure what to expect from a direct to consumer product that I hadn't previously heard of, but for a game improvement set of irons, I feel Caley has knocked it out of the park.  They are also an extremely good value at $549.
     -Final Score (92 out of 100)
    -Posts, Reviews, Updates-
    First Testing on Trackman - Dec 21
    First on the Course testing - Dec 23
    Update Dec 25
    Initial Thoughts - Jan 1
    Simulator Jan 10
    On the Course - Jan 27
    On the Course - Feb 2
     
     
     
     
     
     
     




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    - Introduction: 
    First, I want to send out a huge thank you to MGS Forum staff and @Caley for giving me the opportunity to test out and review this set of irons. I never thought I would get to be a part of these reviews, so when the staff reached out, there was no way that I could turn them down. I am very excited about the opportunity to try out the Caley 01 irons, I not sure without this opportunity, I’d ever get a chance to test out one of these direct to consumer golf sets. Not sure I could pull the trigger on a set of clubs that I can’t at least hit in a bay before deciding to purchase. 

    - Who am I? 

    Hello spies, my name is Jeff Ross. I live in Radford, VA along with my beautiful wife Jill and my 7-year-old son Liam. I am a bingo supply salesman in Virginia and West Virginia. I enjoy spending time traveling with my family, fishing, golf, working out and the outdoors. I'm a die hard UNC Tarheels fan, this where my screenname uncross derives from. I’ve lived in a golf course community for the last 3 years but unfortunately, I have never played the course, but plan on playing it soon, its a beautiful course.
    Pete Dye River Course -

     
     
    I started playing golf when I was in college in the late 90’s. Although I played a lot, I never really improved very much. I just enjoyed playing with my buddies and never took the game too seriously. I gave up about a dozen years or so after getting married and moving back to Southwest Virginia. I started fishing more and more, and really got into bass fishing tournaments for several years. 

    - My current game. 

    A few months ago, I decided to take my son on a round of golf with my dad for some quality grandpa time! Liam only made about 7 holes, but in those 7 holes I found the passion for the sport that I hadn’t felt in a long time. I decided to give golf another try. It is also awesome playing with my dad and spending so much more time with him that I probably wouldn’t have gotten the chance to without being together on the course. 

    I'm joining the golf course in my hometown and planning on playing a lot of golf in 2024.
    Blue Ridge Country Club-

    My game is definitely a work in progress! I have around a 20 handicap, but don’t think I’ve played a round yet since starting back without at least a few mulligans. Driver is my biggest struggle on the course. My only confident club is my 56-degree wedge.  My struggles with my irons are a push fade to the right or topping the ball

     
     
    - Testing Plans 
    I hope to get a chance to test these irons out as much as possible. I plan on renting a trackman bay a couple times to get as much data as I can with it being winter and the holidays. I hope to get out on the course a couple times or more during this testing process. I will be focused mainly on seeing how they compare to my 20-year-old TaylorMade RAC OS irons. 
    1) Consistency- especially on distance for each club.  Making sure that the ball goes relatively the same distance on every shot  and not once in a while there is a ball that goes 15-20 yards farther than the previous 10 shots or so with the same club.
    2) Ball Flight- I really like a high ball flight with my irons. 
    3) Feel and Sound 
    4) Forgiveness – How bad are my mishits.  

    - What will it take to earn a spot in my bag 
    If the Caley 01 are more consistent and forgiving than my current TaylorMade irons, they will definitely get a shot at staying in my bag. The biggest factors will be how forgiving they are on mishits and how many more greens I can hit. The bottom line is that if they help me lower my scores, they will be in my bag. I also have a set of Ping G430’s on the way for Christmas, so I will get to do all this testing again after the Holidays! 
    - Unboxing and First Impressions - (16/20)
     
    I've been waiting like a kid at Christmas for the Caley 01's to arrive!  Unfortunately the day I arrived I was swamped with youth sports and licensing forms for an upcoming merger.  So the unboxing had to wait until the following day.

    When finally getting a chance to tear into the box, I was stunned at the aesthetics of these irons.  They are stunning! I love the minimalist design and appearance.  I was truly impressed with how these looked out of the box.

    Even thought these irons had been previously test, and I didn't get pull all the plastic wrappings off of them, I felt like Christmas had come early!  


    These irons truly look stunning in hand, at address, and in the bag!


    First Impressions -
    When the MySpy forum guys contacted me about testing some Caley irons, it couldn't have been a worse time for me to do a test and review, but I was taught at a young age to never let an opportunity pass you by, you never know what it might lead to, so I said yes I would love to do it.  This was my first testing opportunity as well as my fist interaction with any DTC golf clubs.
    Honestly I had never heard of Caley golf or the 01 irons, but did as much research as I could after excepting the review.  I watched several YouTube videos and read what reviews I could find.  Everything I read and watched  were really positive. 

    First Impressions
    When I opened the box, my first thoughts were wow!, these are nice looking clubs.  They are just smooth, a very clean look.  Much nicer that I would have ever expected at this price point.  To me they look much more expensive and look closer to a players irons that most of the game improvement irons that I have been looking at in stores.  I really think they would sell a lot more of these if the average person could put their hands and eyes on them before they purchased them.  I posted pictures on Facebook and had several people asking about them.






    Initial Thoughts
    So far after a few testing opportunities, I'm not sure that I could be too much more impressed with these irons so far.  The looks are amazing! The feel is very soft with a low click sound, dispersions have been better that my current gamers, Distance for most clubs is a little farther than my TaylorMade Rac Os irons.  Here are some of the statements made by Caley golf on their website and social medial and how well those statements have held up with my testing so far.

     
    - Super Easy To Hit
    So far in limited testing, I have found the irons easy to hit, especially 7 iron through pw.  I am really struggling with with 4, 5, and 6 irons right now. 
    - Lightning Fast Ball Speeds
    I'm not sure how to calculate lightning fast ball speeds but for the most part, I have found higher speeds with the Caley 01 irons than with my current irons

    - Pin Point Accuracy 
    With my golf swing, no club will have pin point accuracy, but so far I have been more than impressed with the accuracy of these Caley 01 irons.  Most of the trackman dispersion charts were much better with the Caley's. Below are the 8 iron and 9 iron comparison between the Rac Os and the Caley 01 irons.  The 1 round of nine holes that I have played on the course with the Caley irons was very impressive for me.  I hit 3 greens in regulation and scored 4 strokes below my average on the front 9 at my home course since starting back into golf several months ago.
    8 Iron dispersion Caley Blue Rac Yellow

    9 iron dispersion Caley Green, Rac Blue

    - Explosive distance
    On most clubs so far, the Caley 01's have carried a tad farther than the Rac OS, but I'm not quite sure I would consider it explosive.

    - Extreme Forgiveness
    I would say that so far I agree with the forgiveness on irons 7-pw.  They are by far the most forgiving irons that I have ever hit.  Still having trouble with the long irons.
    - High Launch
    Trackman data was pretty similar to my Rac os irons.
    -Soft Feel
    Very soft feel with a quiet click sound on contact
     
    Few Concerns. (Where I subtracted points) 
    My first concern is ho badly I am hitting the long irons.  Worse than I normally hit my RAC 5 and 6 irons.  This could be me and my swing and just limited swings with these irons, but at this point its a little concerning.
    Number 2 could be me being a little picky, but I do worry a little about the durability of the irons.  I was not the first tester of this set of clubs, and when they arrived they had a few dings and scratches on them that looked deeper that anything on my 20 year old Rac's.  Also just cosmetic but the paint is coming off of several of the numbers on the irons


    Overall, I am really impressed with these irons so far, especially the value at only $549 
    - AESTHETICS (9/10)
    These clubs are stunning to look at! The best descriptive I can come up with is just very clean appearance.  I really like the minimalist approach to these irons.  They look great in the bag, in my hands and at address during shots.  I prefer the appearance of the Caley 01 irons over my TaylorMade Rac Os irons and my Ping g430's.


    The Caley 01 irons have an appearance of a players iron to me.  They are similar in appearance to some of the other popular direct to consumer iron sets out on the market.  The Caley 01 irons are a tad smaller than my TaylorMade irons, but with an equally thick top line.


     


    The Caley 01 irons have a very soft feel off the face.  Definitely notice a difference if the feel of a center struck ball compared to one off the heel or toe.  Sound off the club is a nice quiet click. 
    -The Numbers (9/10)
    I was blown away by the performance of the Caley 01 irons during the simulator sessions.  The irons were easy to hit and performed much better that I expected. 
    -Accuracy
    The Caley irons made it easy, even for a golfer like myself to hit the target, or at least in the area of the target.  The dispersion charts with the Caley 01 irons were some of the best that I have ever had.  
    Caley 01 8 iron

    Caley 01 9 iron

    -Distance
    Distance for me with the Caley 01 irons was on Par with my TaylorMade Rac irons.  I didn't notice much of a difference in the two.  Distances were consistent, There were not any flyers that went 20 + yards farther than the other shots.
    9 iron dispersion chart Rac os vs Caley 01
     
    -Trajectory 
    I would rate the Caley irons as Mid trajectory.  I did not seem to hit them quite as high as my current irons.
    PW Trajectory Chart (Caley blue - TaylorMade red)

     
    - Forgiveness and Control
    Forgiveness and control are the areas where these clubs shine.  Miss hits off the heel or toe didn't end up far off target and the distance didn't seem to drop off.  I found these iron very easy to hit.  Point and shoot, make a good swing and hit your target.
    The only point I took off was for the 4 and 5 irons.  I struggled to hit them at all in the simulator.  Very poor strikes, no distance and far right dispersion.
    -On-Course (18 out of 20)
    Performance in the simulator sessions carried over nicely on the course.  The forgiveness of the irons were the best that I have ever hit.  I hit far more greens than I did with my previous gamer irons.  My misses were much closer to the green also .  Still had lots of fat chunks and tops, but that is just bad swings on my part.
    I played rounds hitting multiple shots from the same distance with both the Caley 01 irons and my current gamer irons.  The forgiveness and  accuracy of the Caley 01 irons would have saved me several shots a round compared to my current games.
    One again the only negative is the trouble with the long irons carried over to on course issues also.  I really struggled to hit the 4 and 5 irons at all.  Dead right or thin and short .
    -The Good, the bad, the in-between (20 out of 20)
    Caley's website describes the 01 series of irons as the perfect blend of precision, power and feel for golfers of all levels. Performance benefits: explosive distance, extreme forgiveness, 

    The good-
    Priced at only $549, the Caley 01 irons are an exceptional value in my opinion.  They are a stunning set of irons, I posted pictures of them on Facebook and had several people inquiring about them.  I found them them extremely easy to hit. In terms of the OEM claims on the good side:
    - Extreme forgiveness.  I found this to be one of the best qualities so far with the irons.  They have been much more forgiving than my current gamers.  Miss hits are near the the target and no where near as far right.
    - Soft Feel.  I really like the feel of these irons.  In my opinion they are very soft for a game improvement iron.  They have a nice soft feel on contact with a light click sound.
    - Spin Control.  Not sure if a player of my abilities controls the spin or not, but these irons seem to have a lot of spin.  I landed one shot on the green 10-15 yards and spun it back completely off the green from 150 yards out.  I've never put that kind of back spin on the ball before.
    The in-between- 
    - Explosive distance.  I found the distance good with the Caley irons but I wouldn't quite call it explosive.  Distance was very similar to my current gamer irons.
    - High launch.  Once again I think the launch is ok, but ball flight doesn't seem to be quite as high as my current gamer irons.  
    The Bad- 
    The only thing I can really say that could possibly be bad about the irons is that mine had some paint coming off of some of the numbers and some of the dings and scratches from the previous tester makes me a little concerned about the durability of the Caley 01 irons.
     
    - Play it or Trade it? (20 out of 20)
    The Caley 01 irons are definitely a play it for me.  With the forgiveness and ease of hitting, that have brought confidence to myself at address for iron shots.  These irons are the easiest irons that I have ever had in my hands.  The forgiveness of them makes me a better golfer and is helping me lower my scores.   They are a great value at only $549 for the set.  I can't speak for any other kind of golfer other than myself, but they are a great set for a high handicapper or beginner.
     
    -Conclusion
    When I received the opportunity to review these irons, I thought to myself, who really wants to read a review from someone who is just getting back into golf after a dozen years or so and is a pretty bad golfer.  I hope people who are similar high handicappers like myself.  The Caley 01 irons are a perfect set for someone starting out, someone just getting back into the game like myself or anyone else who needs a very forgiving set of irons. The Caley 01 irons checked every box for me.  Aesthetically they are clean and stunning to look at.  Performance wise, these irons have me playing better.  They are extremely forgiving and easy to hit.  The irons produce good distance with lots of spin and a soft feel.  I wasn't sure what to expect from a direct to consumer product that I hadn't previously heard of, but for a game improvement set of irons, I feel Caley has knocked it out of the park.  They are also an extremely good value at $549.
     -Final Score (92 out of 100)
    -Posts, Reviews, Updates-
    First Testing on Trackman - Dec 21
    First on the Course testing - Dec 23
    Update Dec 25
    Initial Thoughts - Jan 1
    Simulator Jan 10
    On the Course - Jan 27
    On the Course - Feb 2
     
     
     
     
     
     
     




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    Navart got a reaction from russtopherb in Caley Golf Irons & Driving Iron - 2023 Forum Review   
    - Introduction: 
    First, I want to send out a huge thank you to MGS Forum staff and @Caley for giving me the opportunity to test out and review this set of irons. I never thought I would get to be a part of these reviews, so when the staff reached out, there was no way that I could turn them down. I am very excited about the opportunity to try out the Caley 01 irons, I not sure without this opportunity, I’d ever get a chance to test out one of these direct to consumer golf sets. Not sure I could pull the trigger on a set of clubs that I can’t at least hit in a bay before deciding to purchase. 

    - Who am I? 

    Hello spies, my name is Jeff Ross. I live in Radford, VA along with my beautiful wife Jill and my 7-year-old son Liam. I am a bingo supply salesman in Virginia and West Virginia. I enjoy spending time traveling with my family, fishing, golf, working out and the outdoors. I'm a die hard UNC Tarheels fan, this where my screenname uncross derives from. I’ve lived in a golf course community for the last 3 years but unfortunately, I have never played the course, but plan on playing it soon, its a beautiful course.
    Pete Dye River Course -

     
     
    I started playing golf when I was in college in the late 90’s. Although I played a lot, I never really improved very much. I just enjoyed playing with my buddies and never took the game too seriously. I gave up about a dozen years or so after getting married and moving back to Southwest Virginia. I started fishing more and more, and really got into bass fishing tournaments for several years. 

    - My current game. 

    A few months ago, I decided to take my son on a round of golf with my dad for some quality grandpa time! Liam only made about 7 holes, but in those 7 holes I found the passion for the sport that I hadn’t felt in a long time. I decided to give golf another try. It is also awesome playing with my dad and spending so much more time with him that I probably wouldn’t have gotten the chance to without being together on the course. 

    I'm joining the golf course in my hometown and planning on playing a lot of golf in 2024.
    Blue Ridge Country Club-

    My game is definitely a work in progress! I have around a 20 handicap, but don’t think I’ve played a round yet since starting back without at least a few mulligans. Driver is my biggest struggle on the course. My only confident club is my 56-degree wedge.  My struggles with my irons are a push fade to the right or topping the ball

     
     
    - Testing Plans 
    I hope to get a chance to test these irons out as much as possible. I plan on renting a trackman bay a couple times to get as much data as I can with it being winter and the holidays. I hope to get out on the course a couple times or more during this testing process. I will be focused mainly on seeing how they compare to my 20-year-old TaylorMade RAC OS irons. 
    1) Consistency- especially on distance for each club.  Making sure that the ball goes relatively the same distance on every shot  and not once in a while there is a ball that goes 15-20 yards farther than the previous 10 shots or so with the same club.
    2) Ball Flight- I really like a high ball flight with my irons. 
    3) Feel and Sound 
    4) Forgiveness – How bad are my mishits.  

    - What will it take to earn a spot in my bag 
    If the Caley 01 are more consistent and forgiving than my current TaylorMade irons, they will definitely get a shot at staying in my bag. The biggest factors will be how forgiving they are on mishits and how many more greens I can hit. The bottom line is that if they help me lower my scores, they will be in my bag. I also have a set of Ping G430’s on the way for Christmas, so I will get to do all this testing again after the Holidays! 
    - Unboxing and First Impressions - (16/20)
     
    I've been waiting like a kid at Christmas for the Caley 01's to arrive!  Unfortunately the day I arrived I was swamped with youth sports and licensing forms for an upcoming merger.  So the unboxing had to wait until the following day.

    When finally getting a chance to tear into the box, I was stunned at the aesthetics of these irons.  They are stunning! I love the minimalist design and appearance.  I was truly impressed with how these looked out of the box.

    Even thought these irons had been previously test, and I didn't get pull all the plastic wrappings off of them, I felt like Christmas had come early!  


    These irons truly look stunning in hand, at address, and in the bag!


    First Impressions -
    When the MySpy forum guys contacted me about testing some Caley irons, it couldn't have been a worse time for me to do a test and review, but I was taught at a young age to never let an opportunity pass you by, you never know what it might lead to, so I said yes I would love to do it.  This was my first testing opportunity as well as my fist interaction with any DTC golf clubs.
    Honestly I had never heard of Caley golf or the 01 irons, but did as much research as I could after excepting the review.  I watched several YouTube videos and read what reviews I could find.  Everything I read and watched  were really positive. 

    First Impressions
    When I opened the box, my first thoughts were wow!, these are nice looking clubs.  They are just smooth, a very clean look.  Much nicer that I would have ever expected at this price point.  To me they look much more expensive and look closer to a players irons that most of the game improvement irons that I have been looking at in stores.  I really think they would sell a lot more of these if the average person could put their hands and eyes on them before they purchased them.  I posted pictures on Facebook and had several people asking about them.






    Initial Thoughts
    So far after a few testing opportunities, I'm not sure that I could be too much more impressed with these irons so far.  The looks are amazing! The feel is very soft with a low click sound, dispersions have been better that my current gamers, Distance for most clubs is a little farther than my TaylorMade Rac Os irons.  Here are some of the statements made by Caley golf on their website and social medial and how well those statements have held up with my testing so far.

     
    - Super Easy To Hit
    So far in limited testing, I have found the irons easy to hit, especially 7 iron through pw.  I am really struggling with with 4, 5, and 6 irons right now. 
    - Lightning Fast Ball Speeds
    I'm not sure how to calculate lightning fast ball speeds but for the most part, I have found higher speeds with the Caley 01 irons than with my current irons

    - Pin Point Accuracy 
    With my golf swing, no club will have pin point accuracy, but so far I have been more than impressed with the accuracy of these Caley 01 irons.  Most of the trackman dispersion charts were much better with the Caley's. Below are the 8 iron and 9 iron comparison between the Rac Os and the Caley 01 irons.  The 1 round of nine holes that I have played on the course with the Caley irons was very impressive for me.  I hit 3 greens in regulation and scored 4 strokes below my average on the front 9 at my home course since starting back into golf several months ago.
    8 Iron dispersion Caley Blue Rac Yellow

    9 iron dispersion Caley Green, Rac Blue

    - Explosive distance
    On most clubs so far, the Caley 01's have carried a tad farther than the Rac OS, but I'm not quite sure I would consider it explosive.

    - Extreme Forgiveness
    I would say that so far I agree with the forgiveness on irons 7-pw.  They are by far the most forgiving irons that I have ever hit.  Still having trouble with the long irons.
    - High Launch
    Trackman data was pretty similar to my Rac os irons.
    -Soft Feel
    Very soft feel with a quiet click sound on contact
     
    Few Concerns. (Where I subtracted points) 
    My first concern is ho badly I am hitting the long irons.  Worse than I normally hit my RAC 5 and 6 irons.  This could be me and my swing and just limited swings with these irons, but at this point its a little concerning.
    Number 2 could be me being a little picky, but I do worry a little about the durability of the irons.  I was not the first tester of this set of clubs, and when they arrived they had a few dings and scratches on them that looked deeper that anything on my 20 year old Rac's.  Also just cosmetic but the paint is coming off of several of the numbers on the irons


    Overall, I am really impressed with these irons so far, especially the value at only $549 
    - AESTHETICS (9/10)
    These clubs are stunning to look at! The best descriptive I can come up with is just very clean appearance.  I really like the minimalist approach to these irons.  They look great in the bag, in my hands and at address during shots.  I prefer the appearance of the Caley 01 irons over my TaylorMade Rac Os irons and my Ping g430's.


    The Caley 01 irons have an appearance of a players iron to me.  They are similar in appearance to some of the other popular direct to consumer iron sets out on the market.  The Caley 01 irons are a tad smaller than my TaylorMade irons, but with an equally thick top line.


     


    The Caley 01 irons have a very soft feel off the face.  Definitely notice a difference if the feel of a center struck ball compared to one off the heel or toe.  Sound off the club is a nice quiet click. 
    -The Numbers (9/10)
    I was blown away by the performance of the Caley 01 irons during the simulator sessions.  The irons were easy to hit and performed much better that I expected. 
    -Accuracy
    The Caley irons made it easy, even for a golfer like myself to hit the target, or at least in the area of the target.  The dispersion charts with the Caley 01 irons were some of the best that I have ever had.  
    Caley 01 8 iron

    Caley 01 9 iron

    -Distance
    Distance for me with the Caley 01 irons was on Par with my TaylorMade Rac irons.  I didn't notice much of a difference in the two.  Distances were consistent, There were not any flyers that went 20 + yards farther than the other shots.
    9 iron dispersion chart Rac os vs Caley 01
     
    -Trajectory 
    I would rate the Caley irons as Mid trajectory.  I did not seem to hit them quite as high as my current irons.
    PW Trajectory Chart (Caley blue - TaylorMade red)

     
    - Forgiveness and Control
    Forgiveness and control are the areas where these clubs shine.  Miss hits off the heel or toe didn't end up far off target and the distance didn't seem to drop off.  I found these iron very easy to hit.  Point and shoot, make a good swing and hit your target.
    The only point I took off was for the 4 and 5 irons.  I struggled to hit them at all in the simulator.  Very poor strikes, no distance and far right dispersion.
    -On-Course (18 out of 20)
    Performance in the simulator sessions carried over nicely on the course.  The forgiveness of the irons were the best that I have ever hit.  I hit far more greens than I did with my previous gamer irons.  My misses were much closer to the green also .  Still had lots of fat chunks and tops, but that is just bad swings on my part.
    I played rounds hitting multiple shots from the same distance with both the Caley 01 irons and my current gamer irons.  The forgiveness and  accuracy of the Caley 01 irons would have saved me several shots a round compared to my current games.
    One again the only negative is the trouble with the long irons carried over to on course issues also.  I really struggled to hit the 4 and 5 irons at all.  Dead right or thin and short .
    -The Good, the bad, the in-between (20 out of 20)
    Caley's website describes the 01 series of irons as the perfect blend of precision, power and feel for golfers of all levels. Performance benefits: explosive distance, extreme forgiveness, 

    The good-
    Priced at only $549, the Caley 01 irons are an exceptional value in my opinion.  They are a stunning set of irons, I posted pictures of them on Facebook and had several people inquiring about them.  I found them them extremely easy to hit. In terms of the OEM claims on the good side:
    - Extreme forgiveness.  I found this to be one of the best qualities so far with the irons.  They have been much more forgiving than my current gamers.  Miss hits are near the the target and no where near as far right.
    - Soft Feel.  I really like the feel of these irons.  In my opinion they are very soft for a game improvement iron.  They have a nice soft feel on contact with a light click sound.
    - Spin Control.  Not sure if a player of my abilities controls the spin or not, but these irons seem to have a lot of spin.  I landed one shot on the green 10-15 yards and spun it back completely off the green from 150 yards out.  I've never put that kind of back spin on the ball before.
    The in-between- 
    - Explosive distance.  I found the distance good with the Caley irons but I wouldn't quite call it explosive.  Distance was very similar to my current gamer irons.
    - High launch.  Once again I think the launch is ok, but ball flight doesn't seem to be quite as high as my current gamer irons.  
    The Bad- 
    The only thing I can really say that could possibly be bad about the irons is that mine had some paint coming off of some of the numbers and some of the dings and scratches from the previous tester makes me a little concerned about the durability of the Caley 01 irons.
     
    - Play it or Trade it? (20 out of 20)
    The Caley 01 irons are definitely a play it for me.  With the forgiveness and ease of hitting, that have brought confidence to myself at address for iron shots.  These irons are the easiest irons that I have ever had in my hands.  The forgiveness of them makes me a better golfer and is helping me lower my scores.   They are a great value at only $549 for the set.  I can't speak for any other kind of golfer other than myself, but they are a great set for a high handicapper or beginner.
     
    -Conclusion
    When I received the opportunity to review these irons, I thought to myself, who really wants to read a review from someone who is just getting back into golf after a dozen years or so and is a pretty bad golfer.  I hope people who are similar high handicappers like myself.  The Caley 01 irons are a perfect set for someone starting out, someone just getting back into the game like myself or anyone else who needs a very forgiving set of irons. The Caley 01 irons checked every box for me.  Aesthetically they are clean and stunning to look at.  Performance wise, these irons have me playing better.  They are extremely forgiving and easy to hit.  The irons produce good distance with lots of spin and a soft feel.  I wasn't sure what to expect from a direct to consumer product that I hadn't previously heard of, but for a game improvement set of irons, I feel Caley has knocked it out of the park.  They are also an extremely good value at $549.
     -Final Score (92 out of 100)
    -Posts, Reviews, Updates-
    First Testing on Trackman - Dec 21
    First on the Course testing - Dec 23
    Update Dec 25
    Initial Thoughts - Jan 1
    Simulator Jan 10
    On the Course - Jan 27
    On the Course - Feb 2
     
     
     
     
     
     
     




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    Navart reacted to Shlax in Caley Golf Irons & Driving Iron - 2023 Forum Review   
    0.0 - SUMMARY OF FINAL REVIEW
    TL;DR: I honestly didn't think that the Caley 01CB irons truly had a chance at grabbing a spot in my bag and yet they did! Performance is simply stunning and undeniable. They checked every case on the list of key parameters that I had assembled prior to testing and despite some issues concerning the aesthetics side of things, I will gladly keep these irons in the bag because they are just that good!
    First impressions: 8/20 Aesthetics: 8/10 The Numbers: 10/10 On-Course: 18/20 The Good, the Bad, the Inbetween: 18/20 Play it or Trade it?: 18/20        FINAL SCORE: 80/100
     
    1.0 - INTRODUCTION (JULY 17TH, 2023)
    Greetings fellow Spies,
    I’m Shlax and I’ve been a regular on the Forum since last April. I’m mainly involved in the various threads about recent performances and individual achievements (MGS Virtual Tour, How’d You Play, How’d You Practice, etc.) and anything about drills, swing thoughts or other threads related to the continuous journey toward improvement of our game. I read almost all official and unofficial reviews about golf gear and I especially focus on those concerning clubs. Consequently, I must admit that I am absolutely ecstatic at this opportunity to review what appears to be a very nice set of irons in the Caley 01CBs. We’ll see how they perform soon enough.
    1.1 - Who am I?
    I am a 31 years old geotechnical engineer from Montreal, Canada. Since the COVID-19 pandemic, I have a second full-time job which is basically geeking out on golf gear and being consumed over every little aspect of the swing and its mechanics. Golf now occupies a worryingly important place in my life and I am grateful that I can almost fully dedicate my free time to this addiction 🤒.
    I started golfing in my early teenage years but never really committed to practicing or improving to an extent where I would care about low scores. Back then, I played about 6-7 times per year at the very most and broke 100 maybe once or twice a year. My game was all about distance and I could not care less about the short game or putting. Being from Canada, hockey was my main sport growing up. As a result, I always had plenty of power in my golf swing but did lack much needed accuracy, consistency and course management abilities. Even today, I would describe my swing as including some remnants of my slap shot days, for better or for worse!

    1.2 - What about my game?
    I started playing golf again when I graduated, after having completely stopped for many years, but still wasn’t playing more than a handful of rounds per year. When the COVID-19 pandemic hit, I seriously got back into the game and began investing time and energy in my performance for the first time really.
    Today, my official handicap index is 9.1 and I play roughly 40 rounds per year. I am not a member at any club and I like to alternate courses despite playing close to half of these rounds at my local course. Typically, I play courses between 6200 and 6600 yds and like to give a go at courses around 6900-7000 yds on occasions. I have the distance to play these lengths but since last year, I mightily struggle with driver. This all started when I decided that I wanted to play a draw off the tee instead of my usual and very reliable cut. Of course, golf being golf, I now slice and drive the ball shorter than I have ever before. My average driving distance has fallen to only 4 yds longer than the average distance that I hit my 3W irrespectively of the lie, yikes.
    Off the tee being the weakness of my game, iron play is definitely my strength. I have a fairly steep swing and play a very reliable cut that I love although I can sling my irons right to left when the situation is dire. I consider my short game and putting as somewhat average in comparison to players of similar handicap. I also often play a nice 9-hole par 3 course near my place. I play this course a little less than 25 times per year and this aspect probably is a good contributor as to why approach game is my strength.


    My scoring average in my last 20 rounds confirms that I have much more success on par 3s than on other holes. This is not a surprise as it takes driver out of my hands. I can also vouch that my scoring average on par 4s where I tee off with 3W or driving iron instead of driver is also much better than when I pull driver out! I now average more pars than bogeys per round which is an objective that I had at the beginning of this season. Here's what a decent typical round looks like:
    Between 3 and 5 fairway hits; Between 9 and 11 greens in regulations; Anywhere between 32 and 36 putts; I averaged 3.5 penalty strokes per round in my last 20 rounds and I can safely say that at least 90% of these penalties are incurred off the tee with driver exclusively.

    1.3 - Testing planification
    Full disclosure, I had never heard of Caley prior to signing up for the member test so I did not have any preconceived idea about their product. Like for other DTC brands, I initially thought that their irons were nice and that the price point was aggressive, but I don’t know if I would ever have had the guts to order a set without trying them out first. This is where I hope that this review will be useful to many future readers!

    In all good experimental program, a baseline is required. In this case, the baseline will be my current Srixon Z785 gamers. I absolutely love these irons and I consider that they are still top of the line irons even today. The Caley 01CBs are of very similar design so the comparison is relevant. Per their respective technical specifications, they are indeed almost identical in terms of blade dimensions. Moreover, both sets have the same standard length, lie and loft for each club. One difference is that the offset on the Caley 01CBs is slightly less. The stock swing weight of the Caleys is D2 and that of the Srixons is D3.
    I am eager to see them for myself as the Srixon Z785 are most definitely players iron and can be intimidating to a lot of people at address. This aspect would make the Caley 01CBs really aesthetically appealing, in my opinion, to players who like more compact blade-type irons.
    Table below updated on August 28th, 2023 - Update post here
    Of course, I plan on playing as many rounds as I can with the Caley 01CBs during the testing period. The objective is to see the impact on my scoring average and par performance and well as identifying any noticeable changes in my typical ball flight (e.g., shot shaping ability, carry distance, peak height, spin, stopping power, etc.). I will also take special care to try to communicate as faithfully as possible the feel of these clubs as this aspect is of utmost importance when it comes to forged irons. Finally, I plan on renting a Trackman for an hour or two in order to obtain concrete and precise data comparing both sets and verify my observations.
    1.4 - Summary
    I think that if the Caley 01CBs' performance is even remotely close that of my Srixon Z785 gamers, I will consider these irons as serious disruptors in the industry given their price point. Iron play being the main protagonist of my game, any changes in performance in this area will most likely be exacerbated and visible during testing. I think that my game truly is an opportunity for the Caley 01CBs to rise and shine, hopefully. The parameters that I will be looking for are:
    Carry distance: I expect somewhat similar carry distances. Certainly not less; Ball flight: Ideally, I would like the peak height to go down from my current typical ball flight. Otherwise, it should at least not be higher; Spin: I am a high spin player. Spin does cost me distance but my stopping power on the greens is much appreciated. A slight reduction in spin would be okay although not expected; Feel: This is where the subjective aspect comes in. I like a solid strike to feel like an effortless slash through the grass, if it makes sense. I also like a more muted thud with some crisp to it rather than a clicky rebounding sound. There is nothing more satisfying than a pure strike with a forged iron and feel and sound are important components when it comes to enjoying your equipment. If you have some interest in irons in general or are thinking about eventually buying a set of Caley 01CBs, make sure to follow the current testing thread as interesting updates will come weekly!
     
    2.0 - UNBOXING AND FIRST IMPRESSIONS (8/20)
    2.1 - Packaging
    If you have read @GolfSpy SAM's stellar unboxing section, you'll see that I also received a pretty beat up box. I do not explicitly consider this aspect as a fault on Caley's part, but I suspect that most orders will ship from their factory in China and will be subjected to a similar treatment during their long journey so it might become an issue to address in the future.

    Fortunately, the clubs appear to be just fine. Packaging was decent and the clubs were 100% covered. Nevertheless, if the irons had graphite shafts, I would definitely be more worried about their integrity due to any sustained load or blunt/shear impact possibly experienced during transportation.

    Because of this issue, I removed 2 points.
    2.2 - First impressions
    Club head
    The first club that I unwrapped was the 4-iron: WOW🤩! I was pleasantly surprised at how nice it really looks. It has a relatively thin topline and a narrow sole as expected from any cavity back players' irons. The other clubs are also nice, but I noticed that the topline gets a bit thicker and apparently chunkier as we progress down the set. At address, there's something going on with the heel section. The offset appears quite large even if the technical specifications indicate that it is smaller than on my current gamers, the Srixon Z785s.
    The finish is what I would describe as Tour Satin probably more than Tour Chrome if I am to use Titleist's description of their Vokey finishes. I like it.


    Shafts and grips
    I got the KBS Tour in x-stiff flex (130g.) I gamed the KBS Tour FLT in stiff flex (120g) in my Srixon Z785s. I decided to go with the x-stiff shafts as every source that I check indicates that this is the flex that I should be playing. I wasn't fitted for my current irons and I would have probably ended up in x-stiff shafts if that was the case. For what it's worth: I was fitted into an x-stiff shaft on my driver. By going with the stiffer shaft, I expect my typical ball flight to slightly go down and backspin to decrease as well, which would be perfectly fine.
    The grips are Lamkin Crossline 360 which are pretty standard grips and basically identical to Golf Pride Tour Velvet 360. They are usually what comes stock on most irons from major OEMs. I prefer corded grips but because they are brand new, they will do just fine. I am happy with the grips and shafts.

    2.3 - Bad surprise
    When I compared the irons from both sets, I immediately noticed something odd. Indeed, the Caley 01CBs are 0.5" shorter than standard and this gap is present throughout the set. I octuple-checked my measurements to make sure that my current gamers were not in fact 0.5" longer than standard: They aren't.
    Now, I don't really mind since I am extremely grateful for the opportunity to test these very nice irons. I don't think that the 0.5" shorter length will drastically impact my game as I already grip slightly down on my irons. After all, it only results in basically playing a very strong 6-iron when I using a 5-iron, for example. After completing testing, I can attest that this aspect was not a mjor issue for me but it could have very well been for someone else.
    That being said, if I was a paying customer, I would rightfully request a refund or exchange without any additional cost on my end. I did order a set with standard lengths, lies and lofts as are my current Srixon irons. According to Caley's website, the standard length of their 7-iron is 37" which is the generally accepted standard length for pretty much all manfacturers. As such, my Srixon Z785 7-iron is indeed 37" and Caley 01CBs' 7-iron is 36.5". It is something that should be verified on their end to avoid any potential issues with paying customers.

    Because of this major issue, I removed 10 points.
     
    3.0 - AESTHETICS (8/10)
    As mentioned above, the irons look stunning. The minimalist design is appealing to a wide range of potential customers, myselft included, and the profile in general is clean and crisp.
    For the sake of simplicity, I only compared the 4-iron, 7-iron and PW. As mentioned before, the 4-irons from my Srixon Z785 and Caley 01CB are very similar but the Caley 01CBs appear to get much chunkier and more square as we progress down the set. I think that what previously caught my eye near the heel section is the height of the face. To my surprise, the Caley 01CB's face is almost 5 mm higher in this area! Other than that, the general looks and geometry of both sets are almost identical. The Caley 01CB are definitely nice clubs!

    The topline of the short irons at address, mainly the 9 iron and PW, is also something that caught my eye. It is indeed surprisingly thick for players' irons of this type. Below is a comparison between both PWs from both sets. The geometry of the transition between the hosel and heel section of the head is also somewhat less refined on the Caley 01CB PW. 
    Because of this issue, I removed a point.

    I removed another point due to the font and general markings on the head and the ferrule. The markings look very generic. As some members highlighted during testing, the fonts used, size and location on the head are very reminiscent of some other DTC products. As for the ferrule, call me crazy if you want, but I feel that providing a nice ferrule to a set of irons is something that barely costs anything and yet adds a certain premium haze to the look. The ferrule on the Caley 01CBs is as basic as it gets and there's nothing wrong with it, but it does fell there's something missing there.
    4.0 - The Numbers (10/10)
    A perfect score!
    Indeed, I might have been somewhat harsh on the looks and aesthetics ratings but I am also not shy to give them praise where they derserve it the most: Performance. The numbers of the Caley 01CB irons are simply astounding.
    I initially planned on renting a Trackman to gather precise data comparing both sets but considering the stellar and striking performance of the irons, I figured that I had all the data that I needed to complete my review.
    Distance
    I did not expect or looked for increase distance and yet, the Caley 01CB provided just that. Club data from my Garmin Approach S60 watch indicates that the Caley 01CBs are about 10 yds longer than my Srixon Z785s on average. I would describe the response off the face as HOT. The strikes feel a bit like that of players' distance irons and I think that this aspect contributes to the ball speed off the face.

    Forgiveness and Control
    Being cavity backs players' irons, a certain level of forgiveness should be expected while still not getting to the point of not being to miss a shot. This is exactly what the Caley 01CB irons achieve. I would categorize them as forgiving players' irons. Slight misshits toward the heel did not experience any dropoff in distance and only a slight deviation to the right (fade). Misshits toward the toe had much a much more dramatic deviation to the left (draw/hook) yet distance still remained pretty much unafffected.
    I mentioned this aspect in a testing update but the amount of forgiveness (and to some extent, the feel) incorporated in the Caley 01CB irons reminds me of the TaylorMade P790 which is a great thing. Maybe Caley succeeded in packaging the explosiveness and forgiveness of players' distance irons in the form a players' irons cavity back?
    Starting prior to the testing period, I drastically began working on shallowing my swing and found that shot shaping with the Caley 01CBs was a piece of cake. I mostly stuck to playing my newfound draw. However, slinging it hard left or keeping it tight was easy with these irons and they really gave me confidence in my game.

    Spin and Trajectory
    While not having exact numbers for my assessment of the irons regarding spin, I can attest that spin was in a better spot than with my gamers. Indeed, the x-stiff shaft contributed in reducing spin just enough so that ball flight was much more penetrating and efficient in the wind but not so much that I had trouble holding greens. On the contrary, I threw a lot of darts in the rounds that I played with the Caley 01CBs where the ball had a piercing trajectory yet stopped on a dime once it hit the green. I didn't have trouble holding green with long irons also.
    The video below is from my very first range session with the Caley 01CBs. Some of the iron shots can be traced up to a certain point and the ball flight is powerful and confidence inspiring.
    Feel
    This one is difficult to put into words but I will do my best. Simply put, the Caley 01CBs don't have the feel of your Srixons, Mizunos or other forged players' irons from major OEMs. As mentioned above, I would describe the feel as being closer to that of players' distance irons like the TaylorMade P790s or Ping i230s for example.
    That being said, the feel isn't bad at all as the mentioned players' distance irons above have an amazing feel. It is simply different than what you should expect from a pure forged blade/muscle back for example. Pure strikes are effortless. The ball comes out with a nice thud and some crispiness which is exactly what I personally like. It is far away from a dingy ring or hollow reverberating sound.
    In terms of feedback, the level of forgiveness incorporated in these irons contributes in misshits not feeling especially bad yet still underwhelming so that you can immediately make adjustements.
     
    5.0 - ON-COURSE (18/20)
    Performance on the range transitioned on the course beautifully. My handicap index reached an all-time personal low 8.6 during the testing period and basic stats tracking indicates that the irons had a positive impact on my game.
    During the testing period, my par performance did decrease on PAR 4s and PAR 5s and my PAR 3 scoring average did slightly increase. However, my guess is that the break-in period (i.e., getting used to the distance) or one particular bad round had a significant impact on the statistics given the relatively small numbers of rounds.

    The positive effects on my game are also demonstrated by my scoring performance. During the testing period, my birdie rate increased while the rate of bad holes (double bogey or worse) decreased. The par and bogey rates remained somewhat unchanged.

    Unfortunately, I can't provide reliable stats comparing my GIR% before and during the testing period due to Garmin Golf's interface. However, I began tracking this stat independently in the last 7 rounds of the testing period and I now sit at 41.0% GIR. My GIR% had historically been closer to 35% prior to testing so I can safely attest that the Caley 01CB irons also had a positive impact on this area of my game.

    I removed 2 points in the on-course category due to performance out of the rough. I highlighted in two testing updates (here and here) that fliers out of the rough occurred much more frequently during the testing period with the Caley 01CBs than it had previously experienced with my Srixon Z785s. Indeed, these irons are much more sensitive to spin reduction in rough for some reason. You really have to be careful when going at it from the rough even if the lie appears perfectly decent as spin reduction is brutal. Not only can it carry much longer, it will also have much more difficulty holding the green. This is not an aspect that I had experienced with any other irons that I played before. On the other hand, performance in wet conditions form the fairway is completely fine.
     
    6.0 - THE GOOD, THE BAD, THE INBETWEEN (18/20)
    In this section, I would to highlight some aspects that left me a bit in doubt about the Caley 01CB irons. I removed 2 points each for both apsects described below.
    The first thing is the emphasis that is placed on the milling of the grooves and face. The below picture is taken from Caley's website and depicts what I would describe as micro-milling to potentially contribute in increasing spin. The above picture is a closeup of the 4-iron's face. This micro-milling is nowhere to be seen (and on the other clubs as well)! I feel that this feature is a bit "irrelevant" to mention and I have doubt that there is any added feature of the sort considering performance out of the rough as mentioned above.

    The other aspect is the swing weight of the irons (see specifications table in 1.0 - INTRODUCTION). I would like to provide a disclaimer that the swing weights were determined at home using a methodology that is highly sensitive to incertitudes in measurements, especially regarding the balance point of the club. For this reason, I can't consider the absolute swing weight values as reliable. However, the relative differences in swing weight between clubs still serves as a good indicator. I was surprised at the relatively wide range of swing weights measured for the Caley 01CB irons and especially the large swing weight of the PW which did feel very much heavier than that of my Srixon Z785 set.
    Price
    You might be wondering how I ended up giving the Caley 01CB 18/20 when I just removed 4 points? Well, because of the price of these irons. I am sensitive about the current price of golf clubs and in the end, price is an important parameter when it comes to choosing a new iron set.
    The Caley 01CBs being priced at $589 simply can't be ignored in comparison to offerings of similar design from OEMs like the TaylorMade P7MCs ($1,300), Srixon ZX7 MkIIs ($1,200), Titleist T150s ($1,400), etc. Of course, at less than half the price, you have to be ready to forgo custom fitting, shaft and grip choices (although heads only can be purchased), having a recognizable brand and resale value. However, performance is not sacrificed and this aspect cannot be ignored.
    I added 2 points for this reason.
     
    7.0 - PLAY IT OR TRADE IT? (18/20)
    If you have read the summary at the start of this review, you already know that I chose to keep the Caley 01CB irons in the bag! Where have I removed points? I decided to remove 2 points because I will be gaming irons 0.5" shorter than standard so I know that I will be leaving some distance on table even if I don't feel at a disadvantage right now.
    Despite some aspects that I dislike about these irons (rough geometry of short irons' head, originality of markings, 0.5" shorter than standard and, to a certain extent, feel), I can't deny that performance is there and in the end, this is all that matters.
    Being a mid-handicap player currently sitting at 8.6 and usually around 10, I am not in a position to ignore the gains came with playing the Caley 01CB irons. It must be noted that the stiffer shaft likely had a significant impact on the suitability of these irons to my swing, but it doesn't remove any shine to the level of control and forgiveness that the heads provide. Here is a chart comparing both sets and the Caley 01CBs have the advantage is many categories.

    For these reasons, I would gladly recommend Caley 01CB irons to anyone looking for good irons at a very competitive price.

    8.0 - SOME UPDATES
    First practice round (August 12th, 2023) First driving range session (August 13th, 2023) First week update (August 17th, 2023) Solid testing round (August 23rd, 2023) Second week update (August 29th, 2023) Third week update (September, 10th, 2023)
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    Navart reacted to GolfSpy_APH in Caley Golf Irons & Driving Iron - 2023 Forum Review   
    Looking forward to these reviews and excited for our own @GolfSpy SAM to get his chance at testing this season! He did an amazing job for LAB last year and has done a lot for the forum which is truly appreciated. 
    Reviews are of course a lot of work, but this is a nice opportunity for him to get involved!
    Congrats to our others with a couple newer members as well. Looking forward to getting to know all of you a little more and seeing how you find the clubs.
    Finally big shout out to @Caley for reaching out to us and getting this member test on the books!
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    Navart reacted to gingerbeast87 in HackMotion Training System - 2023 Forum Review   
    Chipping Practice
    Took the Hackmotion Pro system to the chipping and putting section of the range yesterday. Decided to try short (within 20 yards) chips using my 56 degree wedge as it's the one I tend to use for most of my short chips. The detection was not great for the shorter swings, and I found that it picked up the longer swings instead. Found that the session prematurely ended if I went too far from my phone, so had to stick it in my pocket whenever I had to go grab my balls.
    This being said, when the shots were detected, they still gave a good feedback on how the club is controlling. Please see a screenshot below of a comparison screenshot:

     
    This was taken in the full swing analysis mode, which is good for post-training feedback and available through the Pro tier purchase. As with the full swings on the range, the graphical feedback is invaluable. I didn't find the clubface control mode to be of as much use when doing the chipping as the swing motion isn't the same for me as when I am using, say, my 9 iron for a target shot down the range.
    Putting Practice
    So the maiden voyage on the SS Great Putting went fairly well. I tried both the putting stability mode, and the putting analysis modes. I found that the sensor once again did a great job of giving 1:1 feedback on the swing. The only negative was that, where the sensitivity of the device is scaled up because of the delicate nature of putting. This came with a couple of drawbacks. Once you move off to grab your balls from the hole/around the hole, it registers movements as swings fairly regularly. I think a feature whereby you could pause the app from registering shots would be of some use, mostly to save you from having to go through and deleting false data that it has taken. I've included a screenshot below of an actual swing, and a false reading it took whilst I was moving the club to pick up my balls...

     

    Conclusion
    So overall with regards to short range chipping, and putting I would say that the Hackmotion Pro works fairly well. I do not think it is as useful in the clubface control mode as for full swings, and I think that the putting mode needs some way of pausing data capture. 
    Have a good weekend everyone, hope you all have a few good rounds 🙂
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    Navart reacted to gingerbeast87 in HackMotion Training System - 2023 Forum Review   
    Game improvements
    Managed to finish work at a good time today and get a full round in at Woodlands Golf and Country Club in Bradley Stoke, Bristol. Lovely place with two courses to choose from, and the one that I use the most in the Bristol area. This is my first round since getting to test the Hackmotion Pro system, so it was interesting to see if there has been any improvement.

    Overall shot 99, as a newer player, I am over the moon that I managed to break 100, even factoring in the 6 balls I lost to water and trees. My driver was working exceptionally well for me today as I made sure to remember to flex my wrist in a bit more than I used to (can almost hear the sound that the hackmotion system plays in my head now). My irons were also pretty good today, focusing a bit more on how my wrist is moving through the swing and how it is being held at the top of my swing helped immensely. My approach shots were getting better for the most part and I actually found that I was hitting the green in regulation more than in the past games that I have played. My putting is still not great, I am as I have ever been, a 3-putt champion.
    So far a visible bit of improvement in no small part from the adjustments that I have built into my swing from using the Hackmotion Pro system. I hope that as I continue using it, that it will be able to help me improve my game across the testing period...

    Have a great weekend everyone, and hope you all have great games 😉
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    Navart reacted to EZlife007 in HackMotion Training System - 2023 Forum Review   
    Thank you for your work on this everyone. I purchased the Core version after seeing your posts (having also been recommended the unit by my swing coach a year or so ago). Unit arrived quickly and I was able to hit with it in the simulator today. There’s work to do on my end for sure:

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    Navart reacted to Bennett in Side Street Back9 Golf Backpack   
    Hi Navart,
    With all the hills here in San Diego, it's unlikely that I will be using my Back9 with my non-ebike. The way it feels is similar to when I would carry my groceries home in a backpack. Most of the straps are adjustable enough that I can find a position that it sits nicely on my hips, and the weight doesn't shift around, so if you know what a 20-25lb. internal frame backpack feels like while riding, it's just like that, with just a little more wind resistance at the top from the driver and wood headcovers. 
    It's a bit awkward to tuck and streamline the bag, I have done it briefly under trees and bushes. It's much more comfortable riding upright with it on my back.
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    Navart reacted to OdinSnipes414 in 2023 MGS Forum: Cobra 50th Anniversary Special!   
    How am i ever going to catch @Jnoble89 in the top poster now lol dang it well i can count 1.........
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    Navart reacted to GolfSpy BOS in 2023 MGS Forum: Cobra 50th Anniversary Special!   
    Cobra 50th Anniversary Member Special - Week 1 Challenge - Woods and Wedges
    Alright y'all, the time has come!  This week (Monday-Sunday) our competitors will be tasked with playing a round with their Woods (hybrids included) and Wedges.  They will be allowed to use their putter too.
    Competitors will submit all net 18 hole score using our VGT scoring method found here: MGS Virtual Golf Tour - Season 2 - Week 13 
    EDIT:  Please use “Cobra Week 1 Challenge” in the course name for easy tracking! 
     
    The best score will count and should be shared in this thread for official scoring!
    Fans following the action this week have a chance to challenge a tester.  Tag a competitor in this thread and officially enter into the competition.  If you submit a 18 hole round on the Virtual Golf Tour linked above and share your score here you'll be entered into win a Puma Polo! If you manage to best your challenger than you'll earn bonus points into the random drawing!
     
     
    Good luck all, and let the games begin!
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    Navart reacted to Bennett in Side Street Back9 Golf Backpack   
    I did a few searches on this forum and couldn't find a thread about this equipment, so I'm starting one.

    I guess the Kickstarter for this bag concluded at the end of March, and they started shipping mid-April, so the bags are only about 2 months old now. I got mine in May, and so far it's my favorite bag I've owned (which is only a few).

    Here's a few notes:
    It's not ultralight, but it's not too heavy, and the construction seems very sturdy. I'm not at all worried about it getting flimsy like my 3 lb. bag.
    The bag fits very comfortably on my back. I use it a few times per week to ride my ebike to the 3 courses and ranges that are ~5 miles from my house. I can even strap my pull cart to the back rack of my bike so I can walk the course but not have to carry all 18 (working up to that). The strange squarish-shape still fits very nicely on my push cart and also securely on every golf cart I've strapped it to. The multi-point connections on the bag allow me to configure the shoulder straps different ways, like when I need a single shoulder strap so I can carry my wife's bag on my other shoulder. 🙂

    The number and size of pockets is just right, allowing me to store everything I need, plus a bit extra. It has all the features I want, like loops to hook brushes, towels, and other accessories, and elastic tee holders too.

    I'm really impressed with the construction and stitching. Nothing seems weak or like it might stretch apart, and yeah, it's only been a few weeks, but all the zippers still seem solid.
    The stand works well, but if you don't secure the straps, the legs occasionally get stuck on them, which just means I need to lean down and move it out of the way.
    Definitely use the wide waist strap like you would on any good backpack, so the weight sits on your hips, not your shoulders. The back pad works very well at both keeping me comfortable and dry. It breathes well, and my back doesn't end up too sweaty.

    When I load my clubs the way they recommend, it doesn't feel top-heavy at all, and I can even duck under low brush.

    The only "problem" I've found so far is that I don't use the chest-strap at all. I haven't figured out a way to wear it where the chest strap doesn't make it less comfortable. The bag fits much better when I let the shoulder straps sit wide on my shoulders.

    I haven't used it on my motorcycle yet, but I've been up to 38 mph on my ebike and it was completely stable and comfortable. Just a bit more wind resistance.

    I really love this bag. It's my #1 favorite golf equipment I own because it allows me to increase my exercise, fitness, and eco-friendly climate sustainability.
    I'd love to hear from anyone else who has tried it and I'm happy to answer any questions about it.
    https://sidestreetgolf.com/products/back9-golf-backpack

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    Navart reacted to Bennett in Cycling meets Golf   
    Hi Navart,

    I found your post after I started a thread about my bag under Equpiment>Bags. Go check it out. I shared a bunch of notes about my experience so far after around four weeks of daily use. Yours is the only other post I've seen on the Forums about this bag. (You can see me wearing it in my profile pic, with my ebike in the background, pull cart securely strapped to the rear rack).

    The short version is: I loooove it! 🙂
     
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    Loved these balls until I found 4 dozen of these and Chrome Soft X can be bought at the same price. Chrome Soft X also manufactured in US!
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    Loved these balls until I found 4 dozen of these and Chrome Soft X can be bought at the same price. Chrome Soft X also manufactured in US!
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    Navart got a reaction from Merlin1313 in MGS Blog: Ball Lab Series   
    Loved these balls until I found 4 dozen of these and Chrome Soft X can be bought at the same price. Chrome Soft X also manufactured in US!
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    Navart got a reaction from J7Hawkins in Rovic RV1S Pushcart by Clicgear - UNOFFICIAL REVIEW   
    Review by Navart - 14Apr2023
    Intro
    I have always enjoyed both leisure and exercise outdoors. It doesn’t matter if it is July in Texas or January in Minnesota, my body and mind just find it both essential and calming. For most of my life the time has been spent running, biking, or trekking along trails with our dogs.
    As such, it should be no shock that I started out walking each round with my first ever set of clubs in a stand bag. In the last couple years though I decided to buy the Clicgear 4.0 pushcart for a little extra efficiency in rounds and empty my pockets of balls, tees, scorecards and prevent leaving my umbrella around greens…. It’s been a pleasure to use but it just so happened that a buddy of mine was looking to add a cart of his own. Now, this longtime friend just had his first kid a year ago and his wife is very pragmatic about their budget despite both earning very good incomes. So I gave mine to him and he’ll pay me back in beers over time :).
    With the chance to upgrade, I ran to my work’s corporate discount website where there is always a rotating selection of deals on golf equipment. Enter the Rovic RV1S around 40% off!  I knew I wanted to take a stab at writing an unofficial review for the MGS forum so rather than diving deep into every detail as I am always inclined to do, I noted this cart was MGS #1 Overall Most Wanted pushcart in 2022 but did not read the review (https://mygolfspy.com/buyers-guides/golf-bag-carts/best-golf-push-cart-2022/).  I thought it would be interesting to see what my impressions were from a (semi) unbiased perspective. I also noted the product was indeed a newer brand underneath the Clicgear umbrella and that was enough for me to pull the trigger and start this week off with some excitement. 
    Now full disclosure - so far I have only had the cart a few days and used the Rovic RV1S for two 9-hole rounds, but I was mindful of where I played each. The first was a relatively flat links course and the second had more inclines and terrain. So while there is some variation, I cannot say that the following evaluation is from extensive use across any conditions you would ever encounter.
    When using a pushcart, I value the following 4 areas (in no particular order) the most:
    Transportability Features Ease of Use Durability Each is rated on a scale 1-5 (1=throw it in the garbage and light it on fire, 2=left wanting more, 3=satisfactory, 4=great, 5=superior to all others). Now enough rambling and onto the review!
     
    Transportability - 4 out of 5
    I fudged up and overlooked the unboxing. I’ll remedy that for the next review, but when I pulled this thing out of the box I was pleasantly surprised. First of all, I pulled the cart out of the box and it was somewhat hefty, but no assembly was required. And while assembly isn’t a component of the review, I could appreciate how compact this cart could get in it’s storage/transport configuration (per Rovic, H: 24”, Depth: 15”, W: 13”). This thing is smaller than some backpacks I’ve been able to sneak on planes as a personal item!
    Really this cart can fit in the trunk of any vehicle and probably even on the floorboard if you needed to by pushing the seat in front of it up a bit. An under-appreciated aspect is probably that you don’t need to hold it together in it’s compacted configuration when loading either. When folded down properly it doesn't try to unfold itself. The handle bars are a convenient area to grasp and use for loading as well.
    The only reason I didn’t give it 5 stars is that, as I mentioned at the top of this section, it is on the heftier end. While by no means was it a struggle for me, I’m also in my twenties and don’t have to worry about lifting away from my body or over my head. I can certainly understand how some senior golfers may desire a bit of a lighter model.
     
    Features - 5 out of 5
    Wow. This cart has A LOT of stock features. While I’m sure there are some really expensive carts out there with more features, I am over the moon about everything that this cart packs in such an efficient way and especially at the price. I won’t run through every single feature (I found the manufacturer website has a nice interactive function to explore them all http://rovicgolf.com/pushcarts/rv1c-features.php), my favorites were the storage compartment in the handle area, the ball carrier, and the drink carrier.
    The storage compartment was so much larger than I was expecting given how compact this cart is able to fold into. I was able to fit a tin of bully cigarros, lighter, wallet, and keys. Yes you can just put these in a pocket of your golf bag but I was find myself fumbling around in them when I want them. Not anymore!
    There are so many other features in this cart and even a couple spots for other accessories sold separately by Clicgear so that you can really customize to your uses. If I had any qualms it would be that the umbrella holder (center of handlebars in image above) was juuuuust too small in diameter to fit the handle of the umbrella in my car. But umbrellas are not that expensive and the holder neatly unscrews from the handlebars so I can just bring it with me when I go shopping for a new one to make sure at the store it will fit. The depth of the holder is nice and deep for stability.
     
    Ease of Use - 4 out of 5
    Overall this thing is very easy to use from folding and unfolding to maneuvering roughs and water-logged areas. The buttons and levers are found by nicely contrasted color from the frame and nothing is in a hard to reach or uncomfortable position. The top and bottom straps also very easily accommodated my stand bag and expect most bags would fit quite nicely in this cart.
    The “S” in RV1S stands for swivel and unlike some other carts the front swivel wheel is smooth and able to be locked and unlocked from the handlebars and without having to bend over at the front wheel as some others I have seen.
    The back wheel (not on a swivel) brakes engage and disengage easily and I found I could confidently park my cart on the steeper greenside inclines where it was convenient for moving to the next hole. I even went back to the user manual for this write-up after my round and found that there are spots for adjusting the brake cables and even the front wheel alignment should it get off.
    The other key feature was how broad all three wheels are. I felt like this really saved both the cart from getting stuck and me accidentally doing a little damage to a water-logged area of fairway that I didn't notice. My stand bag is fairly light so perhaps the outcome might have been different with a heavy cart bag loaded, but it really did sit nicely on top of the soft area with the wheels continuing to roll rather than having sunk and dragged out.
     
    Durability - Incomplete
    To be honest, I dont think I can really make a full-throated conclusion about the durability with just two uses. I will say however that I am very optimistic about how it will hold up and will add a follow-up after a couple years.
    As I mentioned earlier, the cart is a little hefty, the wheels and wheel-set broad, and the brakes work well so I can't imagine this cart falling over often, leading to damage. The main frame is solid aluminum and part of the heftiness makes it feel high-quality. There are also no rattling or flimsy plastic parts. If I had to nitpick, I think it would be that the cabling is external rather than internally routed. However, I recognize that this is probably for smooth folding/unfolding and my bias for internal cable routing on my bicycles.
     
    Overall - 4.5 out of 5
    Absolutely love it and would still have made the same choice even if I didn’t get it at a discounted price. I can see why it ranked as the MGS 2022 Most Wanted Pushcart and I have no doubt it will be in my use for years to come!





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    Navart got a reaction from JFish350 in Rovic RV1S Pushcart by Clicgear - UNOFFICIAL REVIEW   
    Review by Navart - 14Apr2023
    Intro
    I have always enjoyed both leisure and exercise outdoors. It doesn’t matter if it is July in Texas or January in Minnesota, my body and mind just find it both essential and calming. For most of my life the time has been spent running, biking, or trekking along trails with our dogs.
    As such, it should be no shock that I started out walking each round with my first ever set of clubs in a stand bag. In the last couple years though I decided to buy the Clicgear 4.0 pushcart for a little extra efficiency in rounds and empty my pockets of balls, tees, scorecards and prevent leaving my umbrella around greens…. It’s been a pleasure to use but it just so happened that a buddy of mine was looking to add a cart of his own. Now, this longtime friend just had his first kid a year ago and his wife is very pragmatic about their budget despite both earning very good incomes. So I gave mine to him and he’ll pay me back in beers over time :).
    With the chance to upgrade, I ran to my work’s corporate discount website where there is always a rotating selection of deals on golf equipment. Enter the Rovic RV1S around 40% off!  I knew I wanted to take a stab at writing an unofficial review for the MGS forum so rather than diving deep into every detail as I am always inclined to do, I noted this cart was MGS #1 Overall Most Wanted pushcart in 2022 but did not read the review (https://mygolfspy.com/buyers-guides/golf-bag-carts/best-golf-push-cart-2022/).  I thought it would be interesting to see what my impressions were from a (semi) unbiased perspective. I also noted the product was indeed a newer brand underneath the Clicgear umbrella and that was enough for me to pull the trigger and start this week off with some excitement. 
    Now full disclosure - so far I have only had the cart a few days and used the Rovic RV1S for two 9-hole rounds, but I was mindful of where I played each. The first was a relatively flat links course and the second had more inclines and terrain. So while there is some variation, I cannot say that the following evaluation is from extensive use across any conditions you would ever encounter.
    When using a pushcart, I value the following 4 areas (in no particular order) the most:
    Transportability Features Ease of Use Durability Each is rated on a scale 1-5 (1=throw it in the garbage and light it on fire, 2=left wanting more, 3=satisfactory, 4=great, 5=superior to all others). Now enough rambling and onto the review!
     
    Transportability - 4 out of 5
    I fudged up and overlooked the unboxing. I’ll remedy that for the next review, but when I pulled this thing out of the box I was pleasantly surprised. First of all, I pulled the cart out of the box and it was somewhat hefty, but no assembly was required. And while assembly isn’t a component of the review, I could appreciate how compact this cart could get in it’s storage/transport configuration (per Rovic, H: 24”, Depth: 15”, W: 13”). This thing is smaller than some backpacks I’ve been able to sneak on planes as a personal item!
    Really this cart can fit in the trunk of any vehicle and probably even on the floorboard if you needed to by pushing the seat in front of it up a bit. An under-appreciated aspect is probably that you don’t need to hold it together in it’s compacted configuration when loading either. When folded down properly it doesn't try to unfold itself. The handle bars are a convenient area to grasp and use for loading as well.
    The only reason I didn’t give it 5 stars is that, as I mentioned at the top of this section, it is on the heftier end. While by no means was it a struggle for me, I’m also in my twenties and don’t have to worry about lifting away from my body or over my head. I can certainly understand how some senior golfers may desire a bit of a lighter model.
     
    Features - 5 out of 5
    Wow. This cart has A LOT of stock features. While I’m sure there are some really expensive carts out there with more features, I am over the moon about everything that this cart packs in such an efficient way and especially at the price. I won’t run through every single feature (I found the manufacturer website has a nice interactive function to explore them all http://rovicgolf.com/pushcarts/rv1c-features.php), my favorites were the storage compartment in the handle area, the ball carrier, and the drink carrier.
    The storage compartment was so much larger than I was expecting given how compact this cart is able to fold into. I was able to fit a tin of bully cigarros, lighter, wallet, and keys. Yes you can just put these in a pocket of your golf bag but I was find myself fumbling around in them when I want them. Not anymore!
    There are so many other features in this cart and even a couple spots for other accessories sold separately by Clicgear so that you can really customize to your uses. If I had any qualms it would be that the umbrella holder (center of handlebars in image above) was juuuuust too small in diameter to fit the handle of the umbrella in my car. But umbrellas are not that expensive and the holder neatly unscrews from the handlebars so I can just bring it with me when I go shopping for a new one to make sure at the store it will fit. The depth of the holder is nice and deep for stability.
     
    Ease of Use - 4 out of 5
    Overall this thing is very easy to use from folding and unfolding to maneuvering roughs and water-logged areas. The buttons and levers are found by nicely contrasted color from the frame and nothing is in a hard to reach or uncomfortable position. The top and bottom straps also very easily accommodated my stand bag and expect most bags would fit quite nicely in this cart.
    The “S” in RV1S stands for swivel and unlike some other carts the front swivel wheel is smooth and able to be locked and unlocked from the handlebars and without having to bend over at the front wheel as some others I have seen.
    The back wheel (not on a swivel) brakes engage and disengage easily and I found I could confidently park my cart on the steeper greenside inclines where it was convenient for moving to the next hole. I even went back to the user manual for this write-up after my round and found that there are spots for adjusting the brake cables and even the front wheel alignment should it get off.
    The other key feature was how broad all three wheels are. I felt like this really saved both the cart from getting stuck and me accidentally doing a little damage to a water-logged area of fairway that I didn't notice. My stand bag is fairly light so perhaps the outcome might have been different with a heavy cart bag loaded, but it really did sit nicely on top of the soft area with the wheels continuing to roll rather than having sunk and dragged out.
     
    Durability - Incomplete
    To be honest, I dont think I can really make a full-throated conclusion about the durability with just two uses. I will say however that I am very optimistic about how it will hold up and will add a follow-up after a couple years.
    As I mentioned earlier, the cart is a little hefty, the wheels and wheel-set broad, and the brakes work well so I can't imagine this cart falling over often, leading to damage. The main frame is solid aluminum and part of the heftiness makes it feel high-quality. There are also no rattling or flimsy plastic parts. If I had to nitpick, I think it would be that the cabling is external rather than internally routed. However, I recognize that this is probably for smooth folding/unfolding and my bias for internal cable routing on my bicycles.
     
    Overall - 4.5 out of 5
    Absolutely love it and would still have made the same choice even if I didn’t get it at a discounted price. I can see why it ranked as the MGS 2022 Most Wanted Pushcart and I have no doubt it will be in my use for years to come!





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    Navart got a reaction from cksurfdude in 2024 What is safe in your bag? What's on the chopping block?   
    My 4h & 5h are definitely on the chopping block....I need to see about a 7w to replace my five and figure out what I can do for the resulting gap.
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    Navart got a reaction from GolfSpy_SHARK in Bag Boy Nitron Cart - 2023 Forum Review   
    Love it!! Walkers, ASSEMBLE!
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