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24 minutes ago, Miracle Mike said:
I would love to get a chance to test out these grips. I have signed up for a lot of them and never been given the chance.
Welcome to the forum. I see you are new and while we all want to be selected as a tester there are some things that need to be done in advance of being selected. Selection is not random and there is criteria that the moderators evaluate as part of this process. to learn more, review the thread I linked below, add a profile picture (first criteria that is checked), and get engaged by joining in the discussions.
https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/49045-2023-want-to-be-a-mgs-forum-tester-read-here/
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22 minutes ago, Scd127 said:
Very disappointing, USA ONLY.
Understandable, but sometimes the equipment manufactures impose restrictions on where the testing can take place. The team always pushes for international.
I see that you have been a member since 2018 but really haven’t gotten engaged which is something that is looked for when selecting testers. If you want to possibly be selected for some of the international tests, I’d suggest you read this thread: https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/49045-2023-want-to-be-a-mgs-forum-tester-read-here/ and become more active.
- sirchunksalot and fozcycle
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3 hours ago, Ultralimited211 said:
There are so many testers getting 2nd and 3rd test how bout helping out some of us that haven't tested yet and giving us a chance.
If you look at the people that have been selected for the tests, many of them are new members that haven't tested before. I see you haven't posted much, are new to the forum, and haven't added a profile pic so I would recommend that you take a look at this thread: https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/49045-2023-want-to-be-a-mgs-forum-tester-read-here. These testing opportunities aren't randomly selected, but are based on forum engagement as the OEMs are providing gear and there is an expectation that people will follow through with the reviews and not just take the equipment and disappear. So the help you are looking for is completely controlled by you.....post some pictures of your bag, provide a review of your current equipment or things you have tried, respond to existing content, or create some topics of your own. Look forward to hearing more from you on the forum and increasing your chances to test some products.
- GolfSpy AFG, GolfSpy_KFT, Triple_Putt and 5 others
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5 hours ago, ronanarmstrong said:
I just received two gloves and a case which I bought through the recent MGS promotion. I went with 'The Feather" and whilst I like the glove, quality and material. I'm really disappointed with the sizing. I comfortably fit into ML in pretty much all the big brands (and a few more niche ones) and I can sometimes get away with a medium. The two gloves I received are the tightest MLs I've ever tried, both in the hand and fingers. Am hoping (and expecting) them to give a little but they'll be back up gloves now rather than going straight into the bag. Have I been unlucky or has anyone else had sizing issues?
Based on the forum call with Red Rooster, it sounds like you have the correct size glove and typically play with gloves that are too big. The call was very information filled and mentioned that if you do have the wrong size they do exchanges. Did you do the sizing measurements that are on their page? I posted the link earlier in this thread or you can search the forum for the forum community calls thread and find the link there; it’s a good listen.
- GolfSpy_APH, EasyPutter, GolfSpy_BOS and 1 other
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1 minute ago, Parshooter36 said:
I'm going to thow my hat in the ring on this one, I am in the target demographic for swing speed. I am a bit concerned being able to launch a 13* club off the deck, but off the tee it should be a bomber.
It is designed to be played off the deck, out of rough, and even out of sand. Play it like a 7 iron; no reason to be concerned. I was part of a test of these and everyone was able to hit the club successfully.
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24 minutes ago, redbaronj33 said:
It has been extremely difficult to find a glove that fits me properly in an extra large. Often the fingers are too long or it fits too. Loosely would be great to try out this glove to see if it would be a long-term solution.
If you watch the recording of the forum community call with Red Roster, too long in the fingers means you need a cadet size and that you should really have to work to get a new glove on your hand. Perhaps Cadet Large is a better sizing. Watch the video and he goes into how you should size and fit your gloves.
- Rickp, Lee Stanek and GolfSpy_APH
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3 hours ago, MacTourney said:
What video, link?
It is in the Forum Community Call thread: https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/57049-forum-community-calls
A direct link to the video is: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vk_z70tQlKLfV3ebKuBRPou5WwwooAj4/view?usp=share_link
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17 hours ago, GolfSpy_BNG said:
Add to that, Kerry joining the forum call to talk to members as well as wanting to be around for the review says all you need to know about him and what he thinks of his company.
I said this in the forum call thread, but the discussion about gloves was very eye opening and gave me new insights into this piece of equipment that many use to maintain connection with the golf club. Anyone interested in this test should probably watch that video; and if you aren't interested in this test, that video will probably make you interested.
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ShotScope continually updates their apps and I noticed on the dashboard that they have added putter comparisons. This has been available for non putter clubs and I have read that this was available for putters previously but disappeared. The information is located under putter performance and you can now select the various putters you have used a compare stats. Unfortunately, maximum date coverage is limited to a year and it only seems to be available via the web version and not the app.
My putting has been going downhill recently and the stats show that my personal assessment is correct. The Seemore has been the putter in my bag and performance has definitely dropped since switching out the LAB.
over the last couple of years I have kind of neglected my putting and focused on full swing and short game. Based on the stats of both putters, time to start working on this area as well.
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Scoring
Scoring is the final set of data that we can review to assess performance. Here i can see how performance in relation to,par, how I perform on the front versus back, and how I perform on the various par holes. It is interesting to note that I typically score 2 strokes better on the back 9. Wonder why…..more warmed up or care less about score after the bad front
if you’re a strokes gained junkie, you can see the stroke gained numbers for the various aspects of your game, front versus back, and par 3, 4, and 5s.
- GolfSpy_APH, Golf2Much and MattF
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Putting.
Now we get to delve into putting; an area I love to learn about and unfortunately the area of my bag that is most likely going to get swapped out for no other reason than because I wanted too.Let’s start with the miss percentage being 54% short. I don’t interpret that as terribly bad by itself as it shows my shot pattern is centered over the hole The information missing is the actual proximity to the hole. Is my shot pattern left or right and how far long and short are my shots?
next we get into performance metrics and we start to see some areas for improvement:
Avegrage holes per 3 putt- looks like I typically average about 2 a round versus 1 every 26 holes for a scratch golfer.
average putts per round - looks like I am taking about 3.5 more putts per round.
a erage putts per GIR - I am going to guess the poor mark is due to the number of 3 putts I take
1, 2, 3 putts: obviously I need to avoid 3 putts and hopefully up the 1 putts.
next we start to do the breakdown of putts by distance This is probably the most relevant data as we start to see what distances we make putts from. While not terrible, it looks like I could stand to improve my make percentage from 9-12 feet.
- MattF, Golf2Much and GolfSpy_APH
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Short Game
since my short game has been historically poor I am thinking this might reveal some useful information this data is similar in nature to the approach game except the distance is greenside to 50 yards. Initial red flags for me are that I average 9 feet farther from the hole, covert the up and down 20% less, and save from the sand 21% less than a scratch golfer. Definitely room for improvement!
The next screens are about proximity, percentage to convert, and how many shots it typically takes. What immediacy jumps out is that I should not use my 7 iron for shot game shots
looking at the data I as expected convert best with a putter. Makes sense as the old advice is to get the ball on the ground and rolling like a putt, or a poor putt is usually better than a GC chip. At a quick glance, everything seems basically even, but at second glance my PW seems to get me closer, covert a little more and be under 3 in average shots to finish the hole.
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Approach Shots
Looking at approach shots, here is an area that starts to show some areas for improvement. My GIR is below the benchmark and I seem to miss high percentage of shots short; nothing we haven’t heard when looking at any analysis of players games. I have started to address this by consciously taking one more club into the green; especially for front pins. For middle and back pins, I’ll probably be more middle and back 1/3 of the green distances.
as you can see in the screenshot, the data goes deeper into hole how often I hit the green by club, distance, and lie and then proximity to the hole based on those same categories. My overall proximity shows as 30 ft greater than a scratch. While interesting, I think this comes from an error in how I enter the data. After using the device for a while I learned that second shots on par 5s should be considered positional. This is an odd thought, but the system doesn’t know if you were trying to reach the green or not so a shot to 100 yards gives you an approach proximity number of 300 feet. But if you are going for the green in 2 you should probably not mark the shot in this manner.
as one would expect, the closer to the green the higher percentage a club will have hitting the green. The 9 iron does seem a bit suspect though
These screens do scroll so you can see all the clubs.
Another interesting breakdown that shows how well I do from distance and lie. Don’t see anything terribly alarming on this screen that indicates a major problem area.
Next we get into how close am I hitting the ball on my approaches and it looks like we might be seeing something. Definitely terrible out of fairway bunkers but I am also seeing that from 150-200 my rough performance seems to be suspect especially compared to other lies. That 224ft is based on 10 shots so it isn’t just one bad shot.
In the proximity by club, I may want to see what is goin on with the 5 iron. Am I hitting it poorly or underestimating how far I hit the club?
The next chart shows how many shots it takes me to finish the hole when pulling a specific club, I would think this number should be close to 3 but not really sure what to determine what to improve other than get the ball into the hole sooner.
- Golf2Much, MattF, GolfSpy_APH and 1 other
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Tee Shots
How well we hit the ball off the tee has a big influence on our scoring; are you keeping the ball in play, getting penalized, or are you a fairway machine. As we start getting into shot analysis, ShotScope gives us raw data and strokes gained information. As I have started doing some analysis of my game I am finding strokes gained gives some basic information, but you really need the detailed stats to help make decisions.
I’ve set the system up to compare against a scratch player since that’s where I’d like to get and will hopefully help reveal where I need to work. looking at the overall data, my shots seem pretty evenly distributed and not gathering on one side of the course or the other. My 63% fairways hit is better than most scratch players but I am a little shorter off the tee than scratch golfers.
Next let’s dig into how my scoring is impacted based on where my ball ends up. What stands out is that I am terrible out of fairway bunkers and they cost me over 1 stroke every time I hit one off the tee. I hit the bunker 7% of the time so maybe not a priority area to focus on initially for score improvement. Maybe it results in a bogey, but bogeys aren’t the score killers.
How do I do off the tee when I hit different clubs? Based on the data, it looks like driver is the go to club unless potential penalties come into play. Looking at the limited data, I am not really any better off the tee regarding FIR until I get to 6 iron.
looking at strokes gained data, tee shots don’t really see, to be a problem area with a strokes gained of 0.0 against scratch golfers. Guess we need to look elsewhere to see how to get from a 5ish to scratch.
- MattF, GolfSpy_APH and Golf2Much
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Club Data
the question here is whether 15 rounds is adequate to get helpful information. Below is what I am seeing for my P-avg which I believe is where we need to focus since it tries to filter out the outliers like punch shots, poorly hit, or those that hit the cart path and go a mile. . I can also view longest with each club or actual average for all shots. The problem with this is what we see is total distance and not carry; which it what we ideally want to know.
in looking a the data, I do see some potential problem areas and one specifically confirms what I sense on the course. The SW/PW gap is too big and I do struggle with what club to hit 105-110. As a result of what o am seeing here, I will try to get a gapping session setup so I can check and tweak some of the distances. I also changed the settings on my 3w back to 15* from 16.5* to see if I could get a little more distance.
- Golf2Much, GolfSpy_APH and MattF
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Been a while, but we are reaching the end of 2022 and I have finally reached 15 rounds that I could capture on the H4. As noted in the review some rounds were missed due to the “no course within 1k” issue and I forgot to charge the unit a couple of times. Interesting to note that you cannot create a full round via the shotscope dashboard; it must be started on the H4. All that said, I felt like I should do a few posts addressing the various stats that are presented via the dashboard and see if I can identify any areas for improvement. To shorten the content I will make a separate post about each dashboard area. The dashboard areas are Clubs, Tee Shots, Approaches, Short Game, putting, and Scoring.
General Dashboard and Data Filters
From the main dashboard performance screen you can pick the performance area you want to investigate
you can filter the data in a number of ways:
and you can select the performance benchmark you want your data compared against. I play to around a 5 so I my comparisons will be against scratch to see where I can improve.
- GolfSpy_APH and MattF
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Got another response from customer support (they do respond in a timely manner) and was told to sign out if the app, hard reset the h4, unsubscribe from the courses and the courses i identified would show up as needing an update and I could transfer them to the device. I followed the request and have sync’d the courses. Will they show up when I try to start a round? I have no doubts that they will.
Apparently even though the H4 says the course is “on device” it really isn’t so it needs to be downloaded which is why customer support is needed. This solution is frustrating because if you show up and the course isn’t available the H4 becomes useless. It would be nice if I had the ability to sync any course I wanted even if it was already on the device.
still a huge issue and prevents me from recommending the H4. I’ll still use the H4 since I have it and want to get the tracking metrics, but I will also keep my Bushnell GPS charged and in the bag for when I play a course that the H4 can’t locate.
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Reached out to Shot Scope customer support regarding my continued issues with no course found within 1km. Support responded asking me what courses I will be playing over the next few weeks so they can update and then have me hard reset the device.
While fixing the courses I am going to be playing soon is nice, it doesn’t fix the long term problem of showing up at a course and not having it recognized. i responded to their email indicating the courses I will be playing over the next few weeks were previously recognized by the H4 and what should I do when I am playing a course and it isn’t recognized.
I don’t believe that contacting customer support prior to playing every new course is a good solution. This does not appear to be a problem limited to the H4 as there are numerous comments on the shotscope Facebook page with other people experiencing the problem on their watches.
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Final Review posted. I really want to like this product and I do like this product but the issues I experienced resulted in my not being able to recommend the product.
Let me know if you have any questions or want to see something specific.
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1 hour ago, Golf2Much said:
I’ve found if you step back off the green several paces a “+” will show up on the upper left of the H4 screen. That will take you out of the green mode so you can register a chip.
The only thing that switching out of pin collect mode will do is show distance. When you tag the club, it registers where you are standing which would be off the green.
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14 minutes ago, MattWillGolf said:
Played today and the H4 was driving me crazy. On 4 consecutive holes it was thinking I was on the green when I wasn’t and I can’t find a way to correct it while in the round. Then on the 5th I was on the green and it never registered I was on the green.
What I have found is that as you approach the green it will switch into pin collect mode. There is a way to switch out if this mode via the buttons; haven’t done it enough so I can remember the process. You can also navigate through the the menus to get back to pin collect mode. I usually don’t switch out of pin collect mode as I approach the green I just tag my club and play on and it captures the location correctly or I tweak in the post round editing.
- MattWillGolf and Rwagn4
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2023 MGS Forum Test: Takomo Iron Set
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Stop looking at irons, your current irons are already mad that you will be testing the Cobra's