SNCGOLF03's FOLLOW-UP FIVE
Will these irons stay in your bag? Why or why not?
As was alluded to in my Final Review, I really liked the overall irons and wedges that Hogan has brought out. That being said, I also really like my current set of irons and found the overall forgiveness to be better in the Adams CMB irons I have. There's not that much difference in the mid and short irons as far as distance loss on off center hits between the two but was more noticeable with the 5 (27*) and especially the 4 (23*). Mind you the Adams CMBs aren't extremely forgiving either but it is a noticeable difference. There is a pretty significant loss of directional control on the Hogan's when my clubface was not square, which was really accentuated in the longer irons. For my game, which is one that I don't tend to consistently try and work the ball left and right I am better suited for an iron with more perimeter weighting to help decrease twist on impact. The tungsten weights on the heal and toe of the Adams CMBs seems to do a solid job of that for me. Even the Adams though in the long irons are a little inconsistent for me and now that I am not playing quite as much (although I've played a lot more than normal during this review process), I may soon go even more forgiving than my Adams CMBs.
The Hogan TK wedges overall were great. I still though think they don't quite make it in my bag for a variety of reasons that largely have to do with my swing. In my â€œFinal Reviewâ€ I mentioned how much I like the Adams CMB Gap Wedge and the little bit wider sole helps me not dig as much on my relatively steep downswing. Although not bad at all, the V-sole was a little bit inconsistent when I was on tighter lies that were soft. If I made a poor swing I took some pretty large pelts of turf and came up quite short. The sole on the CMB helped forgive me more on those occasional poor swings. Up in Wisconsin we aren't faced with a ton of really dry conditions and fairways are often softer so I feel I will be much more consistent with the Adams Gap short irons and GW. The Cobra Trusty Rusty's, to be honest, I'm not a huge fan of for my game either and think the Hogan TK wedges were a little bit better than those as far as turf interaction. I'm not sure of the exact bounce on the Trusty Rusty's (I think the bounce varies from heal, middle and toe) but I think they are pretty low bounce which for my swing isn't ideal.
As nice as the Hogan's feel, to me the Adams CMBs feel quite a bit better, and not a knock on Hogan's, just to me the CMBs are the best feeling irons I've hit. They just feel so soft to me and love it.
In the past few weeks since the overall review, I've been alternating playing rounds with the Hogan's and the Adams CMBs, keeping track of greens in regulation and scores. Overall this is the main factor of why the Adams CMBs will be staying in my bag. My GIRs have been much better with the Adams over the CMBs. Like I previously said in my other reviews, hitting greens has been not my greatest part of my game. With the Hogan's I've been averaging about 40-50% of GIRs, but the last few rounds with the Adams when they go back into the rotation I've hit 7/9 (the 2 holes I missed where when I hit drove it behind a tree and had to punch out, and the other was a 240 yard par 3 that I hit a hybrid off of). So with that round every realistic chance I had to use my irons into the green I hit it. Then yesterday I hit 14/18 greens, 3 of the â€˜misses' were just on the fringe, 2 of which I made for birdie, and the other miss was due to my tee shot amongst the trees. The conditions weren't benign either; 15-25 mph winds and I hit a solid 3/14 fairways! I just hit the ball much more accurately and the tendency to miss right and left is much less with the CMBs vs the Hogan's.
To whom, if anyone, would you recommend these? Why?
For someone that likes working the ball, I really think the Hogan's would be fantastic. The overall quality and performance is fantastic for someone looking for a unique set of irons that not many people have. You will likely be the envy of your foursome! For someone who previously owned or wanted to own Ben Hogan irons, I think will be very pleased with these irons. They stayed true to the Hogan roots and crafted a wonderful iron. I think someone who wants a more blade-like iron, yet still doesn't want to sacrifice complete forgiveness these are great.
How has this experience shaped or changed your impression of the Hogan brands?
I have been completely blown away by Hogan's dedication and commitment to customer service and willingness to satisfy the customer. There communication and turnaround time for answers were something I don't think I've ever seen before. I know there were some issues with some of the testers' lofts being off, and they went above and beyond to try and figure out and correct the issues. I never did get my specs measured elsewhere, but by how they played on the course, my yardage gaps were great and consistent so that's good enough for me. I really look forward to seeing what they come out with next in the future.
What features would you change or eliminate in the next generation of this model?
I would like to see them change their standard length gap be more â€˜standard'. I think the Â¾â€ gap is a little too much especially in the long irons. Maybe give some more sole options in the wedges. Like I stated, for me, I would prefer a little wider sole in the wedges to make sand shots a little easier, and more forgiving when I get a little too steep.
What feature do you really like, and would most like to see continued or evolved in future models? I really like the looks, classic and clean, and love how they blend from one head to the next. As many of the testers stated, the long irons can be quite challenging to hit, and miss-hits can be punishing. I'd like to see them evolve and offer maybe a blended, easier to hit option in the longer irons. Just to help those who need a little more help launching the ball and maybe a little more heel and toe weighting for those mishits. I'd like to see them evolve the â€œHogan Fitâ€ and work out the few kinks. Maybe add a shaft fit tool to help narrow down shaft options, as well as getting some static body measurements to get the lengths and lie angles as a starting point. I know it would be as good as a real life fitting, but I think it would help get a better online fit for those of us that aren't going to have access to fitters and places that carry the Hogan line. I made a post earlier about some of the kinks that I noticed too in case you didn't read it:
â€œWhen you fill out the HoganFit initially and put all your current set specs like Midsized grip, current length and lie, and then get your initial HoganFit Analysis results they have the grip size as Midsize...but then when you go to the Next Page to Purchase and they give you the summary, it resets the grip size category to standard. So if you're not careful, you may get the wrong grips/sizes.
They also don't automatically fill in the length adjustments and lie adjustments to match with your 'current set' so I'm assuming they mean for you to fill it in on your own.
I'm not sure if that's where some testers got messed up with the thinking that the HoganFit was designed to also 'fit your length and lie and grip size'. I was under the assumption, whether or not it's correct I'm not sure, but the HoganFit was designed to only fit the lofts and loft gapping, not anything else.
If they were wanting, which I think they should, to do a more comprehensive online fit, they could include arm length, hand length, height, etc. similar to the Ping Online fitting tool, to help get you on the right start of what length and lie and grip size you should get.
One other critique I had of the HoganFit was that after you put in your current set makeup, me for instance I have a driver,3 wood, 19* hybrid, 4-GW, 55* & 61* and putter, their recommendations give you too many clubs. So with the set I was given, I was rocking 15 clubs in the bag.â€
Any other lasting impression or parting thoughts you'd like to add?
Again I want to thank MyGolfSpy and Ben Hogan golf for this once in a lifetime opportunity given to me and a few other lucky members. I hope I helped give a little insight on these great clubs. Although ultimately they aren't completely perfect for me, the vast majority of people that try and see them really do love them. I really hope the Hogan brand will be successful and will continue to do great customer service and bring out other great products.