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  1. Well thought out - the goal of my thread was to encourage us to think through what works best for our games and not assume that some sort of prevailing thought is right for everyone. Dave Pelz doesn’t necessarily play a course that requires 4 or 5 195-210 yard tee shots nor does he hit 3 wood that distance nor does he have a job and family make up that limits practice time as I do. In the same way as a life long lower handicapper I lm fortunate enough to be able to control my wedges a bit and handle a 6 degree gap for the sake of fewer choices to make and longer clubs that more comfortably cover a gap that I regularly face in real rounds. I’m heading to the range. I have little doubt that I can dial my 58 in to whatever yardage I want - I could easily not face that yardage until sometime next spring. I know that I’m going to hit driver and three wood and 7 iron and full wedge, chip and putt when I play next week. Guess what Im practicing and what clubs will be in the bag. :) Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
  2. Nice - really appreciate the post - using a careful analysis of how your game fits at that course and the adjusting according to conditions. I doubt that Dave P or others who are advocating hitting it as close to the green as possible would mean taking unnecessary risks to do so. There are missed fairways and there are missed fairways if you follow me. Missed fairway number one is when I’ve taken driver and hit it I to light rough with a great angle to the pin 25 yards farther than the 3 wood in the fairway that I could have hit. In that example I’m going to average a closer proximity to the hole with the ball that’s closer. Missed fairway number 2 is where I tried to fit driver into too tight a space or it went through a fairway and into trees, a hazard, a fairway trap (statistical death for many Ams) or extremely thick summertime Bermuda rough. Well it’s foolish to hit driver there. At least for me it would be - I don’t make enough birdies to offset the doubles and triples that I would make playing that way. The OP was posing the question of should I lay up to a number or get as close as possible because it seems to him that he hits his full shot irons closer than his part wedges. My suggestion to him remains the same; analyze the game to see if that’s true, if it is, work on your partial wedges because they should net a closer proximity to the hole. I absolutely agree with downlowkey that there are a variety of factors that might cause a person to lay back but I’m reading this as a question about the general rule. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
  3. I was listening to the fitting room on Sirius on my way home from church on Sunday (enjoy that show) and they made the comment that shaft weight makes a greater difference in regards to trajectory and distance than shaft flex. I thought that was interesting and also pertinent to this thread as well as the thread jacking (strong loft) one. I’ve mentioned it before and I will again that I went for a Titleist ball fitting about three years ago at my club. The fitter was the Titleist area rep - he told me that I would benefit from mid irons with more loft, a lighter shaft and wider sole (because of my swing type.). From there I did some research, including past years MGS Most Wanted Irons stuff. I know this next part is blasphemous here but I effectively fit myself using the knowledge gleaned from that ball fitting and learned from knowledgeable people here over the years. I ended up pick up a set of Ping G30’s with a light weight Steelfiber shaft that was 2 flat on eBay for under $350. I immediately saw an uptick in distance and trajectory. That increase only widened as I entered a fitness program, dropped 45 lbs and then did those SuperSpeed workouts that Kenny mentioned. When I went for a fitting as part of the MGS test last Spring the fitter was kind enough to look at my irons. After watching me, checking track man numbers and a few shots off of a lie board, he said, “Keep your wallet in your pocket and save yourself some money. You’re not finding a better set of irons for your swing.” Fitters have access to expensive equipment and should know about equipment and what may work best for the person they are fitting. For many of us on this site it’s fun to tweak and tweak until we have it just right (or until we find an excuse to tweak some more.) However a less avid golfer who just wants to grab his clubs from the garage two or three times a month and get out with his son in law or buddies is fully capable of assembling a good enough set without spending a fortune. My sense is that’s what the OPs father in law wants to do. BTW golf needs a lot more people like him, IMO. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
  4. You buy clubs every week!!! [emoji41] Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
  5. Didn't he enter the Tour Championship in first place after winning the second playoff event? I know he had the injury issue early last year but it seems to me that he was back already. Personally I'm not a fan - don't hate him but not a big fan - he needs thicker skin IMO. I absolutely agree that the game is better if he and Jordan are playing well though. That actually leads to a question. Would we be more excited if there were a rivalry between Brooks and Rory or if we had the full gamut of JT, Jordan, Dustin, Brooks and Rory in the mix. The latter is asking for a lot.
  6. This one is in my wheel house - I'm 63 and play with lots of guys like your father in law. He doesn't want to invest a lot of scratch and yet the idea of moving up some in technology is appealing and fun for him. I'd highly recommend Ping G or G30 irons with an R flex graphite (yes I know he should go get fit but he's not going to unless you buy him a gift certificate for the fitting.) Just do the Ping online static fitting to figure out what color code he needs - he'll be very happy and won't spend a lot of money - I'm in no way suggesting that Ping is the best or only option just the simplest - you don't have to worry should I make sure they are bent flat or upright or whatever - just order the color. What about driver? If it's also 20 years old he has way more to gain there than with irons. You could go with something that's about 4 years old for under 100 and he would be super happy. Tell him good luck from all of us! Also let us know what he ends up with.
  7. I’ve recently developed it and just play through it - I usually get loose while I’m playing and don’t notice it - afterwards is when I have issues. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
  8. It’s easy to get that data for yourself - that is personal data that gives reasonable proximity to the hole for your game. Generally speaking it’s under $200 and it’s invaluable. Why guess or debate it? Just get the data and adjust your game accordingly? Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
  9. First off 250 is well above average for distance - about the average distance of a scratch golfer and longer than the average LPGA player who would have very little difficulty breaking par from 6700. Having written that it’s not the same. Your course will have different course ratings from each set of tees which will give you an indication of the difference - I’m guessing it will be about a stroke and a half. To add to the confusion you could play 2 different courses where the 6300 yard courses is rated more difficult than the 6700 yard one but that’s not what you are asking. It’s not cheating, there’s a rating from each set of tees - unless you are planning to play in those tournaments or you play in some sort of group that plays the longer ones play the shorter ones and enjoy it. There’s nothing here that let me move up a set at 60. I got to move up at 55 and was very competitive for a few years after that. But at 63 I’m not - those youngster hit it too far for me - I still have nearly 2 years for my next move up. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
  10. I just snagged one of the OP's recent post to comment. Originally lofts were tweaked by touring pros in the 80's (at least if my memory serves correctly) for gapping purposes. This actually started because guys (Seve, Tom Kite) wanted to have a more lofted wedge in their bag, took out say a 4 iron and strengthened some stuff like 5,6,7 to fill the gap. Then guys like Greg Norman came along and because they were having issues with launching the ball too high, with too much spin (balata) they strengthened all of their lofts and added their extra wedge between PW and SW. At that point there was a general industry standard but it started to erode as OEMs noticed all sorts of opportunities for club making (some marketing, some game improvement - I don't pretend to be prescient that I might know what was going through their minds). However and here is my answer to the OP - this was nothing new. A number of years back when we were having this debate Golf Spy Barbajo produced a number of golf ads from the 1940's and 50's that marketed for guess what? Distance irons - Hogan, Wilson, big names associated with classic quality marketed to the public that they could hit those irons farther than their competitors. I sympathize with those who have trouble properly gapping - that's why you need to trusted fitter who's willing to stick with you until you have the gaps right. It's also why I've become convinced that you need a good tracking program to be sure you've got the gapping right. I know this is a big deal to some people to me it's not - so long as I know how far that I hit each one of the clubs in my bag and with what type of ball flight I'm good to go. Appealing to golfer's egos is nothing new though.
  11. I would still ask if you had the data to back what you’re writing - Golf is a funny game, it may seem like you are more accurate from 140 than from 80 because your expectation is so much greater from 80. It could be though that your proximity to the hole is in fact better at 80. Having a shot tracking system of some sort will help make your practice and course strategy better. It will answer the questions that you are asking. For example if you are hitting 80 percent of your fairways at 290 yards and shooting in the high 70’s you have a significant flaw somewhere else. The general rule is the closer you can safely hit it to your target the lower the score you will shoot. If that’s not happening you are either taking too many penalties (including hitting it in the trees or fescue) or your wedge game needs work, Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
  12. If you’re looking to shoot par you should check your stats to see if reality matches perception. What is your actual proximity to the hole with your 60 vs your 8 iron? Are you as consistent and accurate with the club that leaves you 140 as the driver that leaves you 80? I know that I’ve wasted plenty of shots in my life because I thought something that turned out to be wrong. Yes in answer to your original question. I’ve often played a hole backwards in my mind. Good luck! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
  13. I have two fiends that have bought Ping G410 max drivers this season. Also a friend who used tru fit to buy his driver. One of the Pros at my club is doing SuperSpeed. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
  14. I didn’t quite know how to title this one. About a month ago I went for what I thought was going to be an hour long lesson. As I was warming up on our back range I kept hitting 9 iron after 9 iron 30 feet right of where I was trying to aim - the shots were well struck but no matter what I did they went right. My teacher arrived just as I was letting out an exasperated cry after yet another shot. “Hit one and I will stand behind you to check your alignment.” I hit one, same result. Here’s what he saw. My feet were aligned straight at my target but my shoulders were aiming on the line my ball was starting. Further my back foot was flared out making it difficult for me to get aligned properly and creating some other issues. I guess this happened either because I had gained so much weight or during my weight loss. Even there way he had me square the back foot and hit a few shots - while it felt uncomfortable there was no longer a need for a lesson. Since that day the old Rev has returned, consistent solid hit strikes through the bag with just a touch of draw, lots of them. I’m writing this as a reminder that sometimes it’s the simple things and it’s important to periodically check your fundamentals, grip, set up, alignment, posture. That often needs a second set of eyes but it can make a works of difference. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
  15. I’m a 2 by his definition but the deeper dive is that I don’t play enough competitive rounds to really improve - hoping to change that in the upcoming year. Lots of wisdom in this piece. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
  16. Shot scope requires wearing a watch but no phone. It has several different options including a shot tracking only option. I’ve been please with it. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
  17. I should state that my “bias” comes because I’ve gamed something before and it worked. I’ve had lots of fittings but only one where everything was on the table and that only for driver. It was a surprising result but I played very good golf with that driver. So what my “bias” does is it gives me a starting point - since there is plenty of good stuff out there I rarely get past two brands before I find what works. It’s actually much bigger news that an OEM is making something that’s NG tha something that’s high quality. IMO that was the huge news from the ball test. A top OEM is producing a sub standard ball that is negatively impacting people’s performance. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
  18. And this week it’s on grainy tiff eagle, last week it was on Poa and next week, bent. :) Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
  19. You and I are in solidarity in regards to Palmer courses. Even though it’s a beautiful property I’m even meh about Bayhill. For real Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
  20. Chipping and putting yesterday Full shots today Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
  21. He’s a plus 2 and 8 years my junior - enough said. :) Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
  22. I’ve found through time that Ping and Mizuno Drivers work best for my swing (must be their design theory). I start with them and rarely stray although the R11s that I won through MGS and SLDR have had stints in my bag - long but not forgiving enough for me. I’m a Ping guy with fairways and irons - I’ve strayed plenty but end up here always. Terry Kober for wedges - whatever he is calling his wedge at the moment, that’s what’s in my bag. Mallet carefully fitted putter - this club never changes - the one my EVENRoll Er 5 replaced was in 10 years. It’s been in 3 now with no plans to come out. Pro VIx type of ball - it stays in the whole season, too. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
  23. Just what the lovely Laura said when I told her he would be her ring bearer if she had her wedding here. [emoji141] Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
  24. This little guy was fiercely guarding the 17th fairway. Didn’t stop me from splitting it and having a great look at birdie. :) Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
  25. Sadly I played great - why? Because I was testing golf balls. At least two balls a hole and often 3 on the front nine. On the back I played 2. I was 2 over on one of the balls that I played throughout the round. I was one over whenever I played my gamer but did not play it on every hole. Wish I had Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
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