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  1. The other point is the mental side of the game. It's one thing to play weekends as a scratch golfer knowing that your job during the week is putting food on the table. It's another knowing that the putt your setting up for will make the difference if you get paid that week.

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    And this week it’s on grainy tiff eagle, last week it was on Poa and next week, bent. :)

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  2. Hmm. General, I prefer courses that aren’t Bermuda, but that’s all I get to play here in the South. I can’t STAND Arnold Palmer designs!!
    Drivers: I really don’t like TaylorMade anymore, as they seem so cheaply made, and look it as well.
    FW: I only use them off the tee, and I like smaller, compact heads with weight forward.
    Hybrids: I’ve been playing one since 2014, and I just can’t see spending the money for another one with a fitted shaft since it’s only used sparingly. I like compact heads here as well.
    Irons: minimal offset, but some, and I prefer “traditional” distances and spin. Forged is preferred, but not necessary. Just give me bigger than a butter knife, but not a thick top line.
    Wedges: ugh. I’ve never really loved any wedge I’ve ever played. They all suck to me. NEVER raw!! Yuck! I dislike wedges....
    Putters: Just give me a fitting, and let’s go. No Odyssey for me as I think they’re complete hype. No Toulon, no Scotty, no stuff made in a garage as it’s hype too. Ping and SeeMore are about it. Cleveland is ok as well. Evnroll seems legit, but I’d have to get fitted for one...
    Balls: X, and never again with a Callaway ball! TM, Titleist, Bridgestone, and Srixon. Vision as well out of Australia: Great people!!!
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    You and I are in solidarity in regards to Palmer courses. Even though it’s a beautiful property I’m even meh about Bayhill.

    For real

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  3. I’ve found through time that Ping and Mizuno Drivers work best for my swing (must be their design theory). I start with them and rarely stray although the R11s that I won through MGS and SLDR have had stints in my bag - long but not forgiving enough for me.

    I’m a Ping guy with fairways and irons - I’ve strayed plenty but end up here always.

    Terry Kober for wedges - whatever he is calling his wedge at the moment, that’s what’s in my bag.

    Mallet carefully fitted putter - this club never changes - the one my EVENRoll Er 5 replaced was in 10 years. It’s been in 3 now with no plans to come out.

    Pro VIx type of ball - it stays in the whole season, too.

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  4. Sadly I played great - why? Because I was testing golf balls. At least two balls a hole and often 3 on the front nine.

    On the back I played 2. I was 2 over on one of the balls that I played throughout the round. I was one over whenever I played my gamer but did not play it on every hole.

    Wish I had

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  5. Solid. 
    Meaning my game (these days anyway) is good all around. I'm playing in a narrow band of scoring 72-75. I keep thinking i'm going to at least shoot even or perhaps break par! but just can't overcome myself. LOL
    Funny thing is.... i'm getting older and better. Go figure. 

    Good to hear - helps to confirm my hopeful!

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  6. Which also leads to another point.  It's kind of the same argument you could make for minor league baseball players.  Those guys all either think or know they have the game to compete at the highest levels, but the results indicate that they are just scratching the surface of the elite, and their income reflects it.  So how long does a guy who can drop a 64 on a regular golf course without even trying, keep grinding away on the Korn Ferry, or even missing 5 or 6 cuts on the PGA Tour year in and year out?
    The travel, the grind, the wear and tear on a vehicle, your body, and your mind, all seemingly without much payback or reward.  Most of those guys have the thought in their head that "this is my week" and that they are just one shot or one putt away from breaking out and collecting that big check that will propel them to the next level.
    I might be wrong in guessing this one, but I would bet that there are a handful of guys out there somewhere who have the game, both mentally and physically, to compete on the PGA Tour, but opt not to for personal reasons.  The older I get the more I dislike travelling all the time.  In your 20's and 30's you don't think about travel and the stresses that it brings, because it's seemingly a lot of fun to be in a new town every week, and getting to see a lot of new places and people.  But once you hit 40 those sorts of things aren't all that much fun anymore.  And I am willing to say that I am sure there are a few guys with the natural talent and game to go pro, but opted not to because they'd rather be home every night with the wife and kids.  And frankly, the older I get the more value I place on family and relationships with loved ones.  
    I've also got to think that if you are playing golf to just chase a paycheck, versus actually loving the game, you'll fail 9 times out of 10.  No matter how good you are, you really need to love what you are doing to go all the way in anything in life, golf or baseball included.

    Very good post -

    Many times that guy/gal will stop playing golf altogether - we have one of them just getting back into the game for fun after taking a number of years off - he played at Florida - he said it’s hard to wrap his mind around the thought that playing golf can be fun.

    That’s sad. :(

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  7. Hopeful

    Like so many age and demands of life have robbed me of what was once a solidly consistent golf game. I was the most boring player you ever wanted to see play for a long time - tee ball in the fairway, approach on or around the green, next shot by the hole, putt it in, par, move on. Very few birdies, fewer doubles, lots of rounds under 75.

    Then it went away

    Now I’ve gained back a good deal of yardage through SuperSpeed training and of late have gotten some consistency back through a set up change. Sadly the competitive part of my season has ended so this will have to wait until Spring to truly test. However I am able to practice and play through the winter so I’m... hopeful! :)

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  8. So wanted to hit long shots today but I needed to do short game stuff as part of a testing opportunity - in theory today was my day off but in reality two very sick people plus the ongoing Penny Van saga made that impossible.

    Practice was fun, a fellow school grandfather was working on his short game. He’s a very strong player - we tried to match shots and also see who could get up and down the most.

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  9. 1. Lightning

    2. Extremely heavy rain but in Florida that’s generally going to be accompanied by lightning.

    3. Some sort of significant injury -

    4. Extreme pace of play - but that’s usually in conjunction with an injury - I will generally endure unless my back gets so tight that I can’t loosen it.

    5. Darkness with no chance of any light for more than a hole.

    The last time that I came off the course was after 9 two years ago - it had started to rain and one of the rangers met us in the fairway to tell us it was only going to get worse.

    It’s pretty rare for me to quit in the middle of a round. I don’t play enough as it is. :(

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  10. Nice thread - I used to think about this more frequently than I do now because I rarely play a new course and when I do it’s one that has a good reputation going in.

    Good conditions especially greens, pace of play, a variety of tee options and nothing too tricked up. That sounds about right

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  11. what is it you are "trying again on..."?

    This has come up in a number of threads here and in another forum that I was once a part of and in 19th hole discussions among friends.

    There’s a huge gap between guys on tour and that 38 year old at your club who is always shooting rounds in the 60’s.

    Because golf is a non contact sport that pits golfer against course far more than golfer against golfer people are lulled into thinking they could have played in tour, if only.

    The gap is just as big as other sports, it’s just that you aren’t going to get hurt when your 68 at Bushwood turns out to be an 85 at Bayhill.

    In regards to distance it is certainly true that not everyone who hits it a long way is a successful tour player but you better hit it a long way if you want to play on tour. 280 is a long way by the standards of the weekend warrior - that’s entry level on tour - you best be extremely good in other areas if you average 280 on the PGA or European Tours.

    Distance or more accurately strokes gained driving is the biggest difference between Joe Scratch and Joe pro. There are differences across the board statistically but that’s the biggest one.

    There are stats out there that help this discussion and in today’s world it’s easy enough for a guy to keep his own stats - you can compare and see where you stand or where that scratch guy at the club stands.

    At my club the “scratch” guys are young stud pluses just out of college because we cut them a nice price break and it’s a great place to play/practice. They would blow away Joe Scratch. We also get an influx of Canadian Tour guys in February and March. They’re very good - only a few of them have matriculated to the Korn Ferry.

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  12. You're already received lots of good advice - In the end you need to go with what you like - I have far more game improvement in my irons than my handicap might indicate but it's because my swing profile fits a wider sole plain and simple - I have just gotten accustomed to the look although the jump from the G30 W to the SCOR 48 is pretty radical - I just trust that I can hit each well and live with the look.

    I don't know what you mean by getting older - are you moving into your 40's, 50's, 60's, 70's?  That makes a huge difference - regardless I think that getting older is best handled by the shaft - a different shaft can help with trajectory just as easily as club head type.

    There is no right or wrong answer to the question of which is best at the top end of the club - the proper question is which is best for you.  I would strongly suggest you look at the Ping Long game gapping thread in the member review section and you see four different players who went for a Ping fitting and received 4 very different solutions - I know that my gapping at that end of the bag is far better than it was prior to that fitting and I would never have stumbled upon it by myself.


    I'm all for blending but again you need to watch your gapping at the transition points - because launch characteristics are different between iron types lofts are different - you can't assume that a 22 degree utility iron is going to be the proper fit after a 25 degree player's iron or distance iron for that matter - you have to test it out first to make sure it's right - for you!

    Finally I don't know what your budget is but there is a line called Sub 70 that is quite good - you could save lots of dough by going with those clubs and use it for lessons or a range membership to help further you along the way to that goal of a 10. 


    Good Luck!

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  13. I will try again on this - the way courses that touring pros play are set up is 4 to 5 strokes more difficult than the average course that a scratch golfer plays -


    Even the tougher courses that we play or are members at are not set up like a tour event - I’m reminded of that every time I go to the Valspar and see the pin on 5 tucked behind a deep trap, with the wind blowing the opposite way, the green like cement running around 13.


    My course is tough - well tougher and longer than what the average scratch guy plays - it’s course rating is 74.4 and slope 144. It’s in primo shape and it has hosted tour events, in the old silly season - in order to host a regular tour event the rough would need to be brought in and thickened, the greens firmed up and rolled and 7 converted to a par 4.


    The 66 these guys that you are seeing these guys shoot bear no resemblance to a 66 in a PGA tour event. Heck, I shot a 66 once, for real, in a competition - there was no way I was taking that game down route 43 to Brown Deer Park, the easiest course on tour and shooting even par 71 with it with the course set up used for the GMO.


    There is the same gap between Brook’s Koepka and the industrial league golf guys as there is between LeBron and the church league hoops guys - the gap just looks different in golf and doesn’t feel the same because no one is getting posterized in golf.


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  14. I found that, in the main, Kirke is lousy at giving lessons. It's a lot of, "Come on, just do it like this," as if I'm not trying


    That’s pretty funny


    I once paid a lot of money for trumpet lessons with one of the top trumpet players in the Country.


    That was his teaching style - for $100 an hour in 1976! It was worth it just to stand next to him and hear him play -


    So what will Kirke do with his off season?



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  15. Corey Pavin’s Cleveland 4 wood on the 18th at Shinnecock. I remember watching with my family on Sunday; to this day, my father and I still talk about what a great shot he hit that Sunday.

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    Now they have wedges :)

    It was a great shot

    How about David Toms’ hole in one on Sunday to win the PGA or Bob Tway’s bunker hole out?

    I’m thinking of more of these as we go on

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  16. Glad to see this thread still has legs.

    I would remind that I’m not saying that everyone should switch to fewer wedges, I’m saying everyone should analyze his game to check on club usage and effectiveness of that usage.

    Don’t just use 4 evenly gapped wedges because Dave Pelz says you should. What if you have pulled your 185 yard club for that extra wedge and you never use the thing but you have 10 185 yard shots a season and when you look at that distance you’re taking over 4 shots to get it in the hole from there?

    At our level it’s about making pars and bogeys, not birdies. Even though my mind says birdie with a wedge in my hand I don’t often make one. I don’t have enough practice time for that.

    Fully agree with Chisag about flighting it down - I like piercing, spinning wedges, much easier to control.

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