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6.8 Handicap... just paid the $99 for 6 months of access... I'm excited to better track stats and have some better course management... I was hesitant to sign up as my game isn't "fully online" from a back injury last year... but now is the time for now. I'm excited to see how it goes.

I'm pretty sold on the concept of a high bounce sand wedge and a low bounce lob wedge... I don't always think through which bounce I need for the shot, but it's been interesting to think about my wedges as more than just the loft on the club... I've been grinding my short game due to a back injury, so I've spent way too much time thinking about this stuff.

Define demanding. They aren't blades or muscle backs... I've bounce around from a 4-15 handicap over the past 20 years, and played Taylor Made Burners for the majority of it... These are as forgiving as those and feel 10x better. I'm currently playing Adams CMBs (basically cavity backs with tungsten in the toe) and find them slightly more foriving than the 639 CB (I have the 5 iron) but it's not a TON different... The 699s are definitely more forgiving... I mishit my 699U 4 iron on Saturday and ended up 10 yards short when I expected to be 40 yards short... To me, that's the main difference... massive mishits aren't as punished with the 699s... slight mishits aren't dead with either... I had planned on getting a mixed set of the CBs and MBs at one point, but 2020 was a mess... I'm enjoying my (new to me) CMBs right now... maybe by the time I wear them out Sub70 will have a tungsten toe CB offering.

Have the low bounce jb in 58 and it’s great... have a 286 in 54 and it’s great, too... I think it’s comparable to any modern wedge. I replaced sm6s with the sub70 and don’t miss anything.

Hi jay! So happy to see you guys so busy. Appreciate the time you spend on forums answering questions and helping out. Hope all is well.

That’s awesome! Seems like you should have picked up a bag from them, though!

Thanks! I'm assuming it's still Jay running their social media, so I enjoy giving him grief every once in awhile... he's used to me by now.

I'm really happy with the 286 and JB combo... I feel like it gives me tons of options around the green... I like the Sub70 wedges, I don't like my current wedge game!

Sure, come into a thread and actually explain things about the clubs that you make instead of relying on my vague descriptions and terrible pictures...

If you want to play a urethane ball (higher spinning around the greens) buy a Kirkland ball from Costco. if you don’t care about spin, the srixon soft feel will be fine.

Yeah, since I like the launch of my hybrid for hitting greens, I often wonder if I should have swapped the order of the two.. I don't love hitting my 4 utility into greens... it's OK, just not ideal. I think it's a fun few slots... I've been without a 3 wood for a bit and it really only hurts me on 1 hole... I'm still planning on getting a 3 wood, but might eventually replace it with a 4 wood...

Everyone’s bag is different, but I split the baby and went with a 4 utility iron and 3 hybrid... it’s good to have the options off the tee and out of the woods and rough... each one gets used for a variety of punch shots... I wish I hadn’t gotten my 4 utility long, though... it’s a 3/4 extra and I could have gone standard... choking up is fine most of the time, but sometimes I wish I could choke up more... oh well. if I can sort out my 3 wood slot I’ll be done with clubs until I convince myself to drop money on new irons... I’m happy with my cmbs but the forged faces show wear quickly... (I bought them in like new condition last season). I spent 25 years playing cast irons that still look great, so seeing wear spots develop is hard! it would probably be easier if the wear spots were where they are supposed to be!

@NotBrianim not sure how best to take comparison photos, but here you go... these both have probably 75 swings in them if you are curious about wear.

It’s fine, my visor needs have been met for this month. I don’t think there is a ton of difference, the sole grind and bounce options are different... I like the classic sole on the 286 for standard shots and the more aggressive grind on the jb for opening it up and playing more flop shots.

With sub70 prices, everyday is like winning a contest. #adcopy (full disclosure, I get paid in visors... and by that I mean Jason once sent me a visor)

I’m sure you’ll need a second set soon...

I need to just pay for the subscription... just haven't pulled the trigger! I'm really interested in the more indepth stuff and think it will help me better commit to shots.

I’m long enough to play the tips at my home course, but much prefer the whites (2nd tees)... it actually allows more decision making for me as I don’t have to hit driver, can hit into par 5s and I just generally enjoy it more... ive played shorter tees and don’t enjoy the course as much... a couple big yardage swings makes good holes into mediocre holes for me... im lucky to play the same course frequently, so it’s easy to try different tees and find the right balance. If a system works for you, great, use it and hopefully you have fun and consistently pick the right tees. The guys playing from the tips don’t have a system and are going to play from the back regardless of what anyone tells them.

If you have 45 minutes of range time, you can definitely get some improvement in... just depends what you want to do! Adam Young has a bunch of stuff on differential training. Making yourself hit heel And toe shots to learn how to adjust where you are hitting the ball... hitting draws and fades (and straight shots) to better control your path. You can also start learning a clock wedge system... worry less about the number the range ball travels and instead focus on hitting them the same Distance... 1/4, 1/2 and 3/4 wedge swings and just work on making a repeatable motion (and make sure the ball is going the same distance)... take those swings to the course and figure out what they do with your gamer ball. Improve driver launch parameters... learn how to hit up on the ball and make a good transition. Just build confidence with your driver swing... do some “fast” swings and push your club head speed... speed training might also be a good use of this time and doesn’t require a range. I really like my seemore tempo mat... it doesn’t require a ball, but can use one. Just focus on developing tempo and a good takeaway to follow through... no range required, but can be used on a practice green. ladder drills with chipping and putting... either just constantly hitting past one ball And short of a target, or set up a 3 foot section with one foot markers, and putt into the first foot from 5-10 feet, 2 feet from 10-15 feet and 3 feet from 15+ feet

I think fitting went from being undervalued to overvalued in the past 10 years... I think they can be a great tool to make sure your using the right equipment, but I’m not confident that the clubs themselves will change dispersion a huge amount (short of buying the rocket launchers that create more dispersion in length). my bag might have 8 new clubs in it, but I don’t really think new equipment is super important... I’ve become more fixated on having the tools I need for the shots I want to hit... fitting is a part of that, and I know which shafts I get along with mostly from fittings... but it was only a part of the process for getting new stuff...

Yeah, the lack of shot link is silly... The other side of the GIR being opinion is that means the first putt counts as a putt... so it would up the putt count. From a brief glance, lpga players hit more greens in regulation by about 7% (slightly more than one green a round) and have 1 more putt a round... I’d say there is some causation there... more greens in regulation means more putts on average...

Interestingly, I was looking up fairways hit and the lpga was about 10% ahead of the pga... 75 vs 85 for the top players... I can’t imagine that women’s putting is measurably worse if you compared them apples to apples... I’m sure Lou stagner has the data on it somewhere.

These are at the top of my List for my next set of irons... love my cmbs (and they are new to me as of last year) but I’m already eyeing replacements as the faces show wear.

I haven’t watched enough lpga on tv to confirm my suspicions... but I’m willing to bet the coverage is different between the two tours... PGA coverage tends to show the best shots, so you see more long putts go in and they show less misses...

Did you ever find anything? Seemore can sell you a better cover... love mine.