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  1. My Pings, I started at green dot many years ago, and the last fitting I had, I was a little stiff that day and coming over the top. They wanted to put me into red dot just to negate the over the top pull I had going on that day. I'm 6'2" and have never needed a flat lie angle. It felt like a total bandaid fix to me. I ordered blue dot and they've been great. Soft stepping AND more swingweight to soften the flex? Which shaft? Are they SURE its the right shaft? I used to grip down. I am much happier playing the proper length now. I agree that consistency goes up. Especially if you have a shot you really need to grip down on the club. You get onto the steel that much faster. Soft step and more weight to soften the flex sounds like they're fighting the shaft's characteristics quite a bit? D4 is not super heavy (my PW is D4) but once you get up to the long irons, it can get heavy. I keep it D3 these days. I used to play as heavy as D8, but over the top tendencies were worsened. I much prefer the lighter SW now.
  2. To be clear: there is no reason this program can't "work." But, all the risk is on YOU as the consumer. How much backlash was there when all the risk was on the seller on Ebay? A lot. So I'm surprised when a similar scenario gets any amount of support. Having lived in this world for a while now, not everything always runs just as planned, and if it means having a headache to then contend with, I think we can all agree there are enough headaches in life. The potential risk, to me, is not worth doing Bstone's job for them to get their product in my hands. They are a huge corporation. Tell them to cut loose with the purse strings already instead of championing their cheapskate end-around of the retail market. Granted, the retail market largely is dying on the vine, but its all about sending a message about what you will accept as a consumer. Bstone irons are nice. They're forged. But others make forged irons too, and you can see them in person and maybe even be fit for them. I haven't any affiliation to Bstone so strong that I'll support this model over the more serious committment other OEMs have made to the American market. Bstone has needed to crap or get off the pot for a long time in the U.S. with respect to clubs. Would you rather see annoying David Feherty commercials, or see them use money for getting product out there for people to actually demo? You know my vote.
  3. You guys said it was a great program based on what? Nothing. You didn't even read it. So its time to call the one guy who DID read it and pass along the correct info a "conspiracy theorist?" How's that work?
  4. You didn't read any of the terms, obviously. Its not a SET of golf clubs. Its two 7 irons and two 5 irons with two different shafts. A $700 hold on your CC is atrocious, as is not having any legal ground to stand on if anything goes wrong in the process. 21 days includes transit both ways. So that whittles down your window considerably. Cause I sure as heck wouldn't push the envelope there. And in that span of time, you have to get them adjusted on your own dime, with the outstanding caveat that they could declare them "damaged" as part of that process. Sounds like a potential nightmare at minimum.
  5. I like it when I have a good product in hand already and don't have to upgrade. Thanks.
  6. Entering into mandatory arbitrtion services like this automatically waives your traditional right to class action if they do screw people over. Do you want to waive all your rights? Because you have none under this program. Its why I call it complete s***. And all arbitration actions are covered by confidentiality clause. So you'll never know if others are getting screwed.
  7. Hitting off astroturf for the fitting by any chance?
  8. As always, read the terms. http://testdrive.bridgestonegolf.com/corporate/terms Your 21 day rental period starts the moment you click yourself through checkout. Shipping times back and forth are included. If your demos are not received by 5PM on the 21st day, you get charged the full hold amount on your card, which is nearly the cost of a full set of irons. Then, if you have any disputes, you will be ironically using "JAMS, Inc." a mediation firm of their choosing to do battle with. Caveat emptor. Holy s***. Pathetic. Didn't notice any privacy terms outlined either. They get to sell your data, more than likely to make more money, given they have all your info after checkout. Perusing some complaints over the years against "JAMS" and how they stack everything in the favor of their corporate partners with hand-picked arbitrators and contractual obligations to find in favor of their clients, you'd be well-served to avoid this.
  9. I have the 59's already. The shafts in them currently are no longer an option for me, so looking to do a re-shaft on them. But, if the 15's were a patent improvement in forgiveness and maybe the cavity insert feels a little better, I may have considered just trading them in and having the a set of the 15's built. After eying up the 15's in the local big box, I didn't see a huge difference from my 59's, so I just wanted some feedback on these areas I mentioned if someone had a chance to hit both. Sounds like your experience kinda backed my impressions.
  10. I have a fitting coming up on Tuesday. Haven't swung a club since my last round circa November 8th I want to say. I've been in poor health, slept on my left wrist wrong, and have no idea how I'll be swinging. This is as "blind" a scenario as I can think of going into a fitting. My chances of swinging well I put at next to none, but I'm gonna give it a go and see what happens. (I need the specs to order a G30.) At least if my health continues to suck, I'll have a driver appropriate for my new feable swing. (I'm guessing; can't wait to see what my SS is these days. #Sarcasm.) It's gonna be interesting. I've known the fitter for over 10 years. They used to just chuckle at my carry distances. They'll probably wonder what the hell happened to me.
  11. So 8 year olds having smart phones is the justification? This is the norm? Sad. I cringe when I see 8 year olds indoctrinated so early in life. But, its getting to the point some can't remember what life was like even a couple decades ago. This is not progress you're witnessing. Its a technologically-fueled societal regression. And everyone thinks they're so much "smarter" for it. Because you've been told you are. When they show you primates can operate the things, does this make humankind "smart" for being able to use a "smart" phone? Hardly. When the iWatch is attached to your wrist with a steel band you can't cut off, it won't seem quite as fun. Until then...
  12. 39. Old enough to know better. Many whom have been playing the music were older than myself, so you'll have to put away the age card. That's like asking how old are you if you have an iPhone in this day and age. People older than me play lots of video game and whatnot. I use a laser rangefinder. My Jeep has satellite wifi, bluetooth, and can probably scratch my ass for me with a button push I have yet to discover. I worked I.T. for over a decade. I am not anti-technology. I am pro on-course ettitquette.
  13. I've always liked their irons, but this is pretty blatantly a cost-saving measure on their part to skip the retail model. You do too many things like this and people start to feel every cent is measured for profit. That's kind of the way the biz has been going for a while, and peoples' reactions to such practices will be mixed. Considering the global Bstone fortune, it feels cheap on their part. Don't call people "pissy" for having well-formed opinions. That is unfair.
  14. Lack of money is the issue with participation. This music thing only adds expense. Golf is the best game I've ever played. It makes me sad that people insist that it change for reasons other than the true issue, which is financial access for many. People aren't avoiding taking up the game because they can't do whatever they please out there. Its just too expensive. And I'm not banging away on my keyboard with a frown. Sorry to burst that image for ya. See how far from the truth you get protecting your own self interest here? Again, this is the reaction you get in person when having to ask people to change their behavior. Human nature. Don't put people in that position.
  15. Nice way to not supply irons to retailers. Definitely limitations. The only overlength options I saw were +1 inch. Cost savings for Bstone marketed as being for your benefit. Have a head go flying during testing and take out your buddy? Who's responsible at that point? Bstone? The fitter that bent them? They're pushing a legal envelope there. Surprising it got the green light.
  16. I took time out of my last visit to Golf Galaxy to let them know how much I disapprove of their selling these things in their store, prominently displayed at the checkout line, no less. They had blank looks on their faces of course, but I felt better saying something anyway. It would be one thing if it filtered onto the course via other stores. But specifically making this seem acceptable is over the top WRONG. Ricky Flower's on my list too for promoting a Cobra specific one. When did golf become so boring we need these electronic distractions? I don't run into many good golfers who listen to music on course. (Ya, I know, you and your buddies, yada yada.)
  17. Just because your ettiquette infraction is one of the newest types of infractions out there and hasn't YET turned into a fiasco, doesn't mean it isn't an infraction of ettiquette. See, most whom have grown up playing this game for decades never imagined people being so brazen about their own "enjoyment" being brought out onto the course like this. Its only in this very me first society we have now that it's suddenly even considered appopriate on the course. So, bad behaviors have led to justifications of all sorts. THAT is why ettiquette is rapidly dying on the vine. Caddyshack made this very clear. The biggest baffoon on the course did this. Its why it was so funny. Because who could imagine someone out on the course being so self-serving with a car stereo going? I could care less if its in peoples' own groups. But, to date, their music is heard by others on the course many times in my experience. It almost compounds the ettiquette infractions. Like, not only do they not wait til you clear the box to pull up their cart, you now get to hear their music as they approach. Things like that where they think their music is never heard by anyone. No, its been very noticeable on course up here. Enough so that I have formed this opinion of it. Its already getting to be a problem, and will only get worse. Edit: post #666. LOL!
  18. Money is funny to say the least right now the world over. Everyone is cashing in before the global economy is tanked again. Looking for a home right now, I cannot believe what the market is like. Absolutely insane with all the cheap money floating about. Houses are selling in DAYS from listing. Golf courses are some of the only large parcels of undeveloped land in a traditional sense. Foreign investors snapping it up is not a good thing. Most every course around here is such prime land to be developed. I worry about all the courses regardless of whom may be buying them. The housing bubble in China is so huge, they can't even keep it all in China now.
  19. Check the poll, indeed. 71 percent answered something other than outright acceptance. That's telling. How is letting your kids yell on the course and not say anything to correct them NOT an ettiquette issue? How is honking one's horn in the parking lot distracting people NOT an ettiquette issue? How is that different from talking in your backswing? It's not. But, if it suites your music argument, it is. VERY convenient. I mean, I'm on your side on the ettiquette issues you cite. I think I have a good grasp on this.
  20. Beer cans strewn into the woods/everywhere. Lazy effing drunks. Sunflower seeds. Driving carts where they don't belong and causing damage. People whose buddies have poor ettiquette and don't say anything to them.
  21. No jump required. They are one in the same. Each example of "noise" you cite is an ettiquette issue as well. Pretty annoying when others don't consider your experience as important as theirs, huh?
  22. Its sad there's even the media connotation that he is "avoiding" the event. His friend died. He's going to a funeral.
  23. Someone in this very thread has affected me with their music more than once. There, I said it. I don't wanna start anything, but it has to be said.
  24. Odd. Yeah, you're really gonna throw those rich guys for a loop. That put up the money you win on tour. Bubba likes social media, right? #perspective, son.
  25. Tiger only needs to be there if and only if the media can control themselves and ignore him completely if he's 20 shots out of the lead or misses the cut. To date, they have proven they just can't help themselves. And it really strengthens my perceptions of how many "hangers-on" there are in golf and especially the golf media. Did anyone else ever elicit a "Tiger-proofing" of Augusta? Anyone? He was special. Was being the operative word. Now its devolved into a sideshow more akin to Daly than the former world #1.
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