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Steward Golf Q Follow – Official MGS Forum Review by PMookie
My Game and a little about me
 
I live in West Monroe, LA, which is in the Northeast part of the state, 4 ½ hours North of New Orleans, 3 ½ North of Baton Rouge, and I’m only about 45 miles from the Arkansas line, 55 from Mississippi.  I’m 53 years old, and I’ve been playing since I was little. I learned to play at Pat’s Par 3 in Ypsilanti, MI, now called Miles of Golf. My Dad was a high school golf coach, and my first official tournament was the Ann Arbor Junior Open in the summer of 1982, finishing third. I play to a 4.7 GHIN as I type this, but my lowest ever score is just 74.
 As far as testing the Stewart Q, I’m going to be testing it on the course I play all the time, and I will perform some tests in my backyard as we have a pretty good slope that I wouldn’t find on local courses. One thing I’m really happy to learn is that my greens fees will be going from $48 per round to just $20 per round because I’ll be walking! BONUS!!!
I’ve watched a few video reviews of the Q Follow on YouTube, and read some reviews on various sites online. There only a few issues I’ve seen with the device and one was posted here on by someone who also posted the same issue over on WRX, and it’s an issue with the handle coming apart from the cart. I’ve also seen it mentioned that there are some who had carts that simply couldn’t go straight (others had corrected the issue themselves), and some “jumpy carts”, so we’ll see. For something that costs $2,700, I don’t foresee many problems, but that’s why we’re testing isn’t it?
 So, that’s about it for me for now. I really look forward to getting the cart and getting it out in the backyard, and on the course. Thank you, MGS and Stewart, for the opportunity to be a tester! I greatly appreciate it, and I look forward to y’all’s questions all along the way.








Stewart Q Follow- Official MGS Forum Review by PMookie
First Impressions:
From the moment the Q Follow arrived at my door I was impressed! The box had a great look to it with the big “Q” on the side, the styrofoam that encased the Follow had the Stewart logo on it, and there was a BUNCH of information in the box to guide a user! Really nice. Once I got the Follow out of the box and was able to look it over, I really didn’t want to get the thing dirty! I’m big on how rims/tires look on cars… I don’t like huge ones, but I like them to look “muscular”, different. Well, the Follow has just that, and add the red accent behind the wheels?! Wow! Next were the carbon accents, the finish of the body, all of it black… Man! Such a great looking cart! I took a bunch of pics and added them in my “unboxing” so you can see them there. Add to all of this the CART BAG that showed-up a few days later and I was completely taken-aback! I even mention in one of my videos that it’s an impressive looking machine! 
As far as getting the Q Follow on the course the first time, and getting it underway, I found it to be VERY easy to learn the controls and to get used to them. I had not “practiced” at all at home before I took it out of my vehicle and began to guide it across the parking lot to the driving range before my round, so I was a little nervous, but there was no reason to be. Easy-breezy. I used the arrows on the remote to guide it at first, but once I got on the first hole I engaged “follow mode” and was highly impressed! It worked just as I’d hoped it would by staying right behind me. It really did feel like I had my own personal caddie! So many people at the course stopped to take a look because I’m the only person that plays there that has a remote controlled cart. I had a number of people ask me about it, I could hear folks say, “Look at that,” and even had a college kid tell me how cool it was. Overall, all things included, I was quite impressed. 





5 out of 5 stars!
 
Aesthetics: 
I mentioned a lot in the first impressions paragraph above about the aesthetics, so I won’t belabor the point too much, but I found this to be a beautiful machine, and the carbon accents do add a degree of refinement to it for sure. Are they worth an additional $300? Nope, but they sure look good! I’m going to take a minute here to talk about the bag, even though it isn’t being reviewed… Aestheically, it’s gorgeous. It has some of the same carbon looking accents, the red coloring on it really pops especially since it’s “shiny”, and the Stewart logo on the ball area looks awesome! Really cool!

5 out of 5 stars!
 
The Numbers:
This didn’t really apply to our review so I’m giving a perfect score anyway…
5 out of 5 stars!
 
On-The-Course:
The Q Follow performed better than I expected on-course. Follow mode was fantastic and I ended-up using it about 80% of the time the last two rounds I played using it. The MAIN feature of this cart is the follow mode, and I wouldn’t want any other remote control cart if it didn’t have this same ability! Really, it’s that good! I was able to trust it to follow me up-and-down hills, mounds, across “bridges”, and even up to the teeboxes and it never wavered, fell over, or had any issue keeping-up. There was only ONE time it had difficulty and I showed that in a video. The issue, I believe, was that my bag just didn’t weigh enough to keep the cart tilted forward so it got “caught” on a steep incline. The instructions for the Q Follow to have one’s bag weigh around 31 pounds (not sure how many “stones” that is for those across the pond, HA!) and I would say that would be one piece of advice I would “follow” (ha!) for anyone that gets one of these. Weight of one’s bag DOES make a difference in performance, not just going up hills, but in the general on-course performance it’s smoother and not as “jerky”. 

5 out of 5 stars!
 
The Good, the Bad, the In-Between:
Well, one thing I have not mentioned until this point was that when my Q Follow was taken outside for the first time to try and practice, I started to “unfold” it and the right “fender” or “wing” fell right off. It was broken… Wow. A $3,100 machine and the carbon wing was already an issue. It turns out that the piece is not carbon at all, just plastic finished to look like carbon, and the two connections are VERY flimsy, thin pieces that can break easily. It was a complete bummer, and I was pretty upset. A positive about having something broken? I was able to test the customer service right away! I emailed them and had a response within an hour or two that new ones were on their way. The new pieces arrived just two days later, but no instructions were in the box. The wings are not “snap-on”, they are “screw-in”, so I had NO idea how to replace the wing. I email again, and I get the response within hours. Stewart sent me two wings, and I was glad they did because it turned-out the left wing was broken as well! Ugh. Not a good look, again, for SUCH an expensive machine. I got both wings on after a little difficulty, but I would definitely suggest that Stewart design those parts to be a little thicker, and able to take a beating. The Q Follow is going to be folded, and unfolded many times over years I would hope, and flimsy plastic isn’t going to cut it long-term. I was not impressed by how cheap the wings were, and I’m glad I didn’t have to pay the excessive fees to replace them. On that note, all of the accessories are over-priced in my estimation. We didn’t get anything that wasn’t made of plastic or rubber, so for someone to pay $40 for a phone holder is a bit much for a $.10 piece of rubber. I guess they figure one is spending three-grand so money isn’t an issue… Maybe, I just think it’s excessive.


2 out of 5 stars!
 
Play it or Trade it:
There is NO doubt it’s a PLAY IT! 100%, no questions asked. It’s a great machine, and I REALLY enjoy it! I still need to calibrate the thing so it stops drifting left, but it has been awesome to go to the course and walk 9 again once-a-week. The Q Follow REALLY makes the rounds more enjoyable. I can stay in-tune with my round, but not have to PUSH or CARRY my bag. I can hit the “follow mode” button, put the remote on my rear pocket, and just walk. It’s fantastic. I thoroughly enjoy it!
5 out of 5 stars!
 
Conclusion:
The Q Follow is a great looking remote control cart that does everything Stewart says it does, and it does it with flying colors! It’s simple and intuitive to use, the follow mode is amazing, it really is like having one’s own caddie, and outside of some manufacturing shortcuts, it’s something I think anyone would enjoy having! If one can afford it, I say “go for it”!
 
FINAL SCORE: 27/30
Literally, the only issue I had was with the wings and the lack of quality in their construction, but everything else about the Q Follow was top-notch and lived-up to its billing. 

 

October 2022- Final Review!
Intro
Hey MGS, my name is Andrew and I am from Cleveland, OH. I can’t say enough how appreciative I am that I was selected to test the Stewart Q Follow Electric Caddie. A big thanks to both Stewart Golf and MGS for this amazing opportunity. I am an avid walker and initially started out by carrying my bag about 3 years ago. In the Fall of 2019, I received my current push cart, the Caddytek 3 wheel, so far it has been good, it holds everything I need within an arm’s reach and is very dependable. 
I play at a small semi-private course that averages about 4-5 miles of walking per round. The course itself is quite difficult playing about ~6,700 yards with a slope of 140 from the 1 up tees. I play about 50 rounds a year and I am ~9 handicap. 
Please see the comment section for my full intro!
Final Review
I will admit I have put my Q follow through just about everything possible: I have played a full round during the a steady rain, up/down hills, through thick and wet rough, and lastly through an area of brush that was just cut down a few weeks ago. Time and time again the Q follow showed its durability by being up to the task.
 
 
 
First Impression 5/5 
The Q follow came packaged well, definitely sturdy enough to handle today’s shipping and delivery. The Q follow was much smaller than I anticipated for an electric caddie. It folded up compactly, but I’ll admit I did have to use the instruction manual to figure out how to correctly open and close the caddie. It was a fun experience taking it out for the first time at home that night, I was using the remote and also follow mode to take it not only up and down my driveway but even on the sidewalk throughout the neighborhood. I’m sure my neighbors looked twice when they saw a cart following me down the street.


 
 
 
 
 
Aesthetics 5/5 
The Q follow has a simple design, outside of seeing it move you might not be able to tell it’s much different than other caddies. I will say the fenders which have a carbon fiber looking appearance help to add a bit of flare and style. I also find it nice that Stewart kept the logo small on the cart, they didn’t place it somewhere largely in plain sight for advertising purposes.

 
The Numbers 5/5
It is hard to objectively quantify this portion of the testing because it’s a cart. I will say for using a personal exertion scale after using my Caddytek and the Q follow, from 0-10, where 0= sitting on the couch and 10= running a marathon I would say using the Caddytek I would be at a 6-7/10 at the end of rounds, and physically I would feel very spent. Playing back to back days really took a toll on my body. With the Q follow I am at a 3-4/10 and back to back days are very doable. I do find I have more energy at the end of rounds and I am able to keep up my distance with big shots on the last 3 hole stretch. 
The Good, Bad, and In Between 3.5/5
Good- The Q follow does exactly what it is advertised to do. Follow mode works fantastically for open areas. The remote has good accuracy and control. The battery life is as advertised if not better. I’ve used it back to back days for 36 holes and still had more than 20% left. The cart is also extremely easy to steer around the greens and hazards, I have no worries about manually adjusting it for proper positioning in these areas. The app for battery life also seems to be spot on which is a major plus for on course use and charging.

 
 
 
The In Between- This is more personal for me, I don’t like the fact that it requires a bigger staff or cart bag. I understand it needs extra weight to create stability and these bags help to provide that. However, swapping out my bag every time I go to the range is a bit of a pain and the bigger bags take away from me trying to be simplistic. I also wish they designed the remote a bit differently, if the easiest way to use follow mode is with the remote clipping to your belt or back pocket, I think it would be easier if it had side triggers for the stop button on one side and the follow mode on the other side. It would allow you to engage and disengage a bit easier. The last thing is course dependent, a wide open course would allow you to use the follow mode quite frequently versus a course that is tighter with bridges and hazards like mine you may find at times you have to use the remote feature more than the follow mode to protect the cart.

The Bad- The plastic handle. It feels too flimsy and easy to break for something that can run upwards of $2,500 to $3,000. In Stewarts defense, if the cart is used the right way as the directions state, you can easily manipulate the cart and maneuver it without putting any stress through the handle. You aren’t able to put any torque through the handle to pull or lift the cart sideways like a typical pull cart. I also think I may be the only one in the group but I did have the cart fall on its side on the course during my first session, and no harm was done at all to the handle. The design still requires some adjustments to keep up with its competitors. 
Play it or Trade it 5/5- In no way shape or form am I getting rid of the Q follow. It’s a fantastic Follow cart, It’s helped me have more energy at the ends of my rounds, so much that I’ve been able to get a workout in or go for family walks/hikes after playing golf. It will also help me save money during the hot summer days when playing on the second day of a back to back when I may want to take a cart. It also fits perfectly into my car trunk with my staff bag!

TLDR- The Q follow by Stewart is a premium electric caddie with a follow feature. If you’re tired of using a pull cart and don’t want to use a cart the Q follow is the electric caddie/cart for you. It can handle all the terrain and be used rain or shine. It does have some negatives such as the price- ~$2,500-3k, and the handle feels a bit frail. Overall the Q follow is a great product for anyone in the market for an electric caddie let alone a follow cart. The Q follow has turned into one of the hottest talking points at the course over the last few weeks!

Final Score 23.5/25
 
 
 

MyGolfSpy Official Review
Stewart Q Follow By sirchunksalot
Here's a link to my pre-testing review:
https://forum.mygolfspy.com/tests/45-stewart-q-follow-electric-caddie/?do=findComment&comment=10325
 
Stewart Q Follow Final Review
It’s been a fun walk these past few weeks testing the Stewart Q Follow. I’ve had a great time putting this trolley through its paces on the course and around the house. As someone who just started walking, I can say it brings a special enjoyment to the game being able to walk the course and soak in all it has to offer instead of zipping along in a cart. Thank you Stewart Golf and MyGolfSpy for allowing me to be a tester of such a fine product.
First Impressions 5/5 stars
Pulling the Stewart out of the box, I was immediately impressed with how good it looks. It was folded up compactly and felt sturdy. Opening it up was a breeze, push a couple of buttons and it was ready to go. I’m ashamed to admit this, but closing it back up the first time took a minute because I didn’t see the button on the bottom of the handle you have to push to fold it back up.

My first experience navigating it was just pure fun. I placed my bag on it and ran it through my yard and the neighbors yard. The remote fit nicely in my hand and it didn’t take long for me to get the hang of controlling it.
Aesthetics 5/5 stars
This is one good looking golf cart. It has a minimalistic design that is still able to draw the attention of onlookers on the course.  

The carbon looking fenders contrast nicely against the matte black color of the rest of the Stewart. There is also a section of carbon below the handle near where it folds sporting a “Q” logo. They also added a nice touch to the button on the frame of the handle by adding the British flag to it.


It's well designed to fold compactly and fits well into the trunk of my VW Jetta along with my bag, leaving room to spare for my work boots, golf shoes, golf balls, and any extras I choose to have in there.

The Numbers 3.5/5 Stars
This is going to be an unorthodox portion of this review and I would like to give @GolfSpy_BOS the credit for coming up with the idea for this part. The push/electric cart isn’t a typical forum review where we can give hard data on how a club improves your game.
I was able to play a round with @Tom the Golf Nut and compare the Stewart to the MotoCaddy. We had a race down one fairway where the MotoCaddy took home the prize due to its quick acceleration. At its top end, the Stewart was able to keep a respectable pace but couldn’t catch up.

Also during that round, I noticed smoother, quieter turning and better downhill braking from the MotoCaddy.
Comparing the Stewart to my push cart, I noticed a drastic increase to my stamina during and after my rounds. It was really evident after the round with Tom where I woke up at 3:30, drove 157 miles, walked a hilly course, and drove back home. I still had energy and was not passing out when I walked through the door at home. On a typical work day where I wake up at the same time I’m usually fighting to stay awake on the 25 mile drive home.
I also saw better scoring and play on all but one round during the testing period. I blame myself for that outlier, I lost focus and my game suffered from my mental lapse.
Rounds are more enjoyable being able to take in the sights and sound of the course compared to rushing along in a cart. Maneuvering the trolley let me focus on something other than my game and kept me from dwelling on bad shots.
On the Course 5 of 5 Stars
The Stewart did everything you would ask for during a round. It carried my clubs and kept them secure, even in some less than desirable places. I took it up hills, down hills, into the woods, and through a gully on my course where it had no business being without incident. It did turn over on me once on a steep side hill, scuffing the handle, but it’s not designed for those and was totally the fault of the driver.
I love follow mode and think it’s the defining characteristic of the cart. It allowed me to simply stroll along the fairway with both hands free and let me take the opportunity to drink water and film without having to worry about manning the remote.
The Q Follow also garnered quite a bit of attention from fellow golfers. I received a lot of comments and some questions that allowed to talk both about the cart and the forum. I’m also sure there’s a post out there somewhere on social media with a video because one guy asked me to navigate over toward him.
The Good, The Bad, and the In Between 3/5 stars
Good:
Setup of the cart is simple, you push a button and lift the front wheels, set it on the ground and maneuver the bag holder into place, and push another button to lift the handle assembly. After that, you just place your bag on the trolley, secure it, and turn the cart and remote on.
I can’t say enough how much I love follow mode. There’s something nice about clipping the remote in your belt and walking along with the cart behind you. It frees up your mind and lets you simply enjoy the walk.
The Stewart is easy to charge, the battery snaps loose and you pick it up, insert the charging cable into the color coded ports, and you’re good to go.

Speaking of charging, the 36 hole battery is lives up to its name. I’ve played mostly nine hole rounds and seen a loss of about 22% after each round.
Bad:
I would be remiss not to bring up the handle design, I think it’s a weak point in the trolley and could snap if the cart fell over. It flexes when manually turning the cart and I use caution when I turn it by hand. I know there’s a lot that goes into engineering a product like this, but I would like to see some reinforcement in the handle in future models.

20220926_165321.mp4 Downhill braking is a little weak. I tried to stop the Stewart while hitting a shot on a downhill lie at Tom’s course and it kept going at a moderately fast clip. It took a few tries to get it to slowly roll so it wouldn’t run away from me. I’ve also seen it roll back down hills when I’ve attempted to stop it to pick a club from my bag.
There have been times when follow mode loses connection. I’ll be walking down the fairway and won’t hear the sound of the motors and look back to see the Q Follow sitting in place. I had that happen three consecutive times on one hole and had to walk back to it and engage follow mode again.
The In Between:
Since they’re not officially a part of the review, I thought I'd say thank you to Stewart Golf for including some extras to add to the enjoyment of this testing. The bag, phone holder, umbrella tube, and ball holder are all great products and add to the utility of the Q Follow.


I stated early on that this is a heavy product, but when I compared it with the MotoCaddy they were similar in weight.
It’s a bit more expensive than its competitors ($3100 with 36 hole battery), but follow mode is a pretty unique feature that allows you to focus on the walk instead of keeping your attention on the cart.
Play It or Trade It 5/5 stars
I truly believe the Q Follow has added it my enjoyment of walking and leaves me less exhausted after my rounds. It’s fun to control and have behind me when I want to free my hands up on the course. As fall golf has arrived, I’ll be spending most of my time with it on the course.
TLDR
The Stewart is a quality and fun product that can make your walk less tiring. It’s easy to control and follow mode is a great feature that you don’t see in some of the other popular electric carts. It performs well on the course and can take on some of the toughest terrain.
It’s not without issues, losing connectivity with the remote during follow was my biggest peeve.
It’s a premium product with a fairly premium price, but if you’re looking for an electric trolley it's one I would recommend looking at.
Final Score 26.5/30 stars
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Greetings Spies.  My name is Bill and I reside in southwest Montana. I'm ecstatic and honored to have been selected among the thousands of who applied to test the Stewart Q Follow Electric Caddie.  A HUGE THANK YOU to the folks at Stewart Golf and MyGolfSpy for providing this great testing opportunity!!  I find these forum-based product reviews to be very informative and meaningful.  Marketing claims are "put to the test" by fellow amateur players with no strings attached.  I have used these reviews as part of my recent equipment changes and will do my best to provide you all with a meaningful review of the Stewart Q Follow Caddie.

Please check out my introduction/bio here.  
So as many of you may know, through our discussions on the forum, my preferred mode of travel on the course is walking. 
18th hole at Wine Valley during this years PNW Spy Meet-up.

Unless the course does not allow walking, I rarely opt for an electric/gas cart. To be brutally honest, I just don't like bouncing around, getting in/out and traversing the fairway.  Further, many courses limit where power carts can go (i.e. 90 degree rule, off fairways altogether, and green approach areas).  I prefer the cadence that walking affords - allowing me to think about the upcoming shot (or blowing off steam from the previous shot 😊). If I want to stay in the shade of a tree line as the group makes its way down the fairway, or just mosey along enjoying the sights, I have that option. Plus, it's great exercise and helps keep me stay loose - especially on colder days. I recently upgraded from a Sun Mountain Speed Cart to a Caddy-Tek EZ-V8 (which I did an unofficial review on here). 
I've seen some of the various electric walking carts on courses and always was interested in them. At 62 years of age, I'm still in pretty good shape but will admit that some course terrain is beginning to tax the legs and lungs a wee bit.  Having a multi-mode, powered push cart seems like a great option. So when I saw the opportunity to test the Stewart Q Follow Caddie, I was really excited. From what I've read, this looks to be an industry leader in lightweight, compact design, and follow/tracker technology.
A few questions that immediately come to my mind and are of interest include;
battery life and how much it drops off (or not) during a round or even 27 holes recharging time stability on side hills ability to power through heavy rough and uneven terrain do I have to switch out of follow mode when walking onto the greens and tees? how easy is it to drive/steer using the remote? and, ultimately for me, will having the powered functionality offer a seamless transition from my many years using a simple push-cart? If you have any specific questions or things you would like myself and other testers to investigate, please reach out to us and we'll do our best to cover them in our reviews. 
 
Final Review - Stewart Q Follow Golf Trolley
 First Impressions (4 of 5 stars)
Once again, I want to open this review with a HUGE Thank You to both Stewart Golf and MGS for providing us the opportunity to test/review the Stewart Q Follow Caddie.  I don't mind repeating myself in saying that these forum product reviews are of more value to me than most all other reviews I read.  In fact, now when I consider buying new golf products, I always check to see if a forum, Hit Squad, or both have been done when whittling down information leading to a buy or move on decision.
My initial impression of this product was very well engineered and excellent build craftsmanship.  The shipping box was heavy duty and packing protection top notch. The packing arrangement makes for easy removal and, perhaps as important, easy to repack (I had the opportunity to test this out with our move to AZ).  Help instructions are in the right places - isn't that so often overlooked these days. My shipment had definitely seen some rough handling, and gave the protective packaging a serious test.


Upon getting the cart out and unfolded, I was quite impressed by its look - which I would describe as quite modern, stylish, and sleek.  The "black carbon" version we received has some nice accents (wheel fenders) that give it just the right amount of "pop".


Little details like pressed-fit, sealed wheel bearings, and cooling fins on the drive motor, are not features one would see on low end products.

The key technology of the Stewart Q Follow is the Bluetooth follow mode. With that function selected, the cart is seeking the handheld pendant. When I first trialed this in the yard, it was without a bag on the cart, and I found the cart quite erratic.  At first, I thought it was due to not holding the pendant still (as in clipped to my belt) but, after getting the clubs aboard, the cart became quite steady.  It still makes some jerky direction changes but nothing excessive.  The bottom-line is that the follow technology works as advertised.  Soon into my third round, I began not really thinking about the cart too much and just felt confident my clubs would be within arm's reach when I got to my ball.
Personally, I found trying to hook the pendant onto my belt or pants/shorts pocket each time I selected "follow" a pain.  Upon arriving at the ball, you can stay within the "no follow" zone, and it won't attempt to move to you.  But, on a several occasions, I would just get outside that range while setting up for the shot and the cart you suddenly swivel and move towards me. What worked best for me was simply carrying the pendant in my hand as I walked to my ball, then place it on my bag, take the shot, pick up the pendant and start walking.  My testing showed the carts steering to be nearly identical whether on my belt or in my hand.  I even swung the pendant around while watching and the carts steering was hardly affected at all.
 
Aesthetics (5 of 5 stars)
I really like the look of the cart. As I mentioned above, it has a very modern look with just enough bling in the right places. The light grey rubber handle inserts and bag strap, the exposed carbon fiber basket-weave fenders, grey wheel rims, and red inner wheel covers blend really well. Overall, it is quite compact folded up and not as large as one might think a "battery powered" cart would be.  

The battery nest fits perfect and simply blends into the cart base for a streamline look.


The Numbers (4 of 5 stars)
Unlike the accuracy of a range finder or carry distance for clubs, this category for a bag cart is a bit challenging.  But, I will touch on a key thing that can definitely effect "one's numbers (scoring)" and that is fatigue.  I've used non-motorized golf push carts for the better part of 45 years and while their designs have evolved to make them more compact and feature rich, they still require manual labor.  As we get older, that effort becomes more and more noticeable.  On courses with significant elevation and slope changes, I've really started to notice that my stamina wanes as the holes roll along.  Add in some heat index and that just makes manual carts feel heavier with each passing yard.
The rounds I have played using the Stewart Q Follow Caddie have significantly reduced the level of fatigue I feel as compared to my manual push cart. I cannot yet equate better scoring with the Stewart Q but it stands to reason that being less fatigued over the course of a round will more likely than not help ones scoring.

On The Course (4.5 of 5 stars)
The Stewart Q Follow worked better than I expected in both manual drive and follow modes. I say better than expected because I had visions of looking back for my clubs only to see them some distance back and off-track. I used the follow mode about 90% of the time and it always kept up with me.  With the exception of it finding a pothole as it left the cart path and falling over, it never had an issue.

The first course I tested on had a really good mix of terrain. The carts paths are mostly gravel and some not so smooth.  There were plenty of bumps and lumps which did tend to knock the steering off course a bit, but the tracking technology did a very good job of making corrections.  It did get a bit jumpy at times when this happened, but nothing all that drastic. 
While the cart does well going up hills, going down steep hills isn't so good - particularly if you walk at normal pace.  What I found worked was to just walk slow and kind of guide it along close behind. On a few grades, I noted the brakes having to engage to slow travel and skid the wheels. Of course the instructions suggest using manual steering and use of the handle in these situations, but what fun is that? 🙂.
The course also had plenty of side hills and I purposely walk up the slopes and in a zig-zag manner to see how the tracking worked.  It did a good job making steering adjustments but definitely was working the two wheel motors pretty hard.  Still, I was quite impressed with its ability to keep up.

The Good, the Bad, and the In-between (3.5 of 5 stars)
The "good" points are:
The cart is very compact folded up which will really help those driving cars with limited trunk space. It is very easy to unfold and refold once you get the sequence down. Battery life is as advertised. We received the 36 hole battery and, following each of my 18 hole rounds, the app showed close to 60% remaining. The battery app is easy to use and provides status whether connected to the cart or charging cords. The quick dis-engage design of the rear wheels, for full manual mode, is very easy.  Removing and replacing the battery is easy and the recharge time for it and the remote pendant as described in the user manual. The cart adjusts well to the players walking pace.  I found this really helpful when slowing down and "helping" the cart through odd terrain.  This even works on moderate downhill grades. Switching to manual/pendant steering is easy and one quickly gets the feel for how much left and right arrow is needed to make course adjustments. The cart had very ample torque and climbing power.  I took it up a few quite steep inclines and it had no problem.  The two "wheelie wheels" do a great job at keeping the cart from tipping over backwards.  The "bad" points are:
The handle is a bit on the flimsy side.  On several holes with moderate contours around the greens and tees, I dis-engaged the rear wheels from the motor and pushed the cart.  I found the amount of flexing in the handle a little concerning.  When using my current cart, I sometimes will give it a pretty hefty shove going over curbs. I would be concerned about this handle holding up under similar situations. To be fair, maybe it will sustain way more flexure and stress than I think... but it just made me nervous. Storage is pretty much non-existent. I found myself really missing the mesh cargo net bag, storage tray, and zippered storage pocket on my current Caddy-Tek cart. For me, this was a big negative that affected scoring. The "In-between" points are:
The cart folded is a bit heavy and I could see this maybe being an issue for older folks (even more so for women) lifting in/out of car trunks. It seems the "glide stop" mode should be the default.  The carts stops quite abruptly if this mode is not on, and I should think most users will want this on... so why not make it the default? The cart does work fine with lighter than optimum weight bags, but the tradeoff is that the cart tends to pop wheelies a bit more when starting off and when following up steeper inclines. Play it or Trade it? (4 of 5 stars)
To be brutally honest, I'm on the fence on this one.  I walked one of my (new to me) courses today using my cart and was taking note of all the uneven surface changes I went through moving from greens to tees.  Most of the cart paths stand several inches higher than the ground and I could see myself having to do quite a bit of "helping" the Stewart Q cart through this - whether in follow or manual steering.  Staying on the concrete paths would be a solution but there are a good many more direct/shorter paths through packed gravel that the walking folks use. I need to get a few rounds in with it on the courses here to make this final decision.  I do think it will help reduce fatigue, especially on hot days, and that is a BIG incentive. While my Caddy-Tek cart is quite light and easy to push, I still feel it towards the end of rounds.  I'm definitely going to put the Stewart Q through more paces and testing here and see how it works out.
One factor I'm interested in is battery life and and adverse effects of use and storage in hot climates - like Arizona hot in summer months. They recommend charging at near room temps, which is fine and doable, but what about use and storage in a garage that's near 100F?
I'm quite sure I would not have spent the MSRP for this cart.  I had previously looked at battery powered, manual steer units and opted not to invest the $700 to $1000 for some of those. I do think the build quality and technology are excellent, and the follow mode a really helpful feature, but the price seems a bit high IMO.
Conclusion
In a nutshell, the Stewart Q Follow Caddie is the real deal and does what it was designed to do.  With the exceptions noted above and two key design aspects (weak handle and virtually no storage), the cart manual and follow steering modes work very well. It works well over moderately uneven terrain; gravel paths, over tree roots, and low curbs (say up to an inch).  Straight out of the box, the cart is assembled and, with the help of fantastic instructions, requires only a few base and handle movements to be ready to load your bag and head off to the tee.  After the round is done, the fold and store sequence is very easy and surprisingly compact.  It is a little on the heavy side and could be an issue for some lifting into and out of deep trunks. 
The ability to quickly disengage both the rear wheels is great in the event of either the cart or pendant batteries running out, a system malfunction, or forgetting to bring the pendant with you (which I nearly did 😬 ). With the wheels disengaged, the cart feels very much like any other push cart.  It rolls along fine but keep in mind the weight of the battery will require expending a few more calories.  It's also worth noting that the handle is no where near as rigid as most carts and tends to twist/flex a bit if pushing forward over curbs, cart paths, etc.  There are other reviews on this product where handles breaking have happened - so just something to consider and remember when using.
It seems to work well with various golf bags.  I used my Sun Mountain Four 5 kickstand bag and it had no issues.  Stewart Golf does recommend using a bit heavier bags to minimize "wheelies" during drive motor starts, but I did not find that an issue.  While perhaps not optimum, it's nice to know the cart can be used with a pretty wide range of bags.
The $2699 to $3099 MSRP (depending on options) is pretty high as compared to other battery powered, manual pendant steer carts.  Because I'm not real familiar with the competing products, I won't try and justify the cost of this product except to say I think the Stewart Q Follow is a top-shelf product with respect to engineering and build quality.  
I think the bottom-line is that if you really love to walk but are finding doing so with a manual push cart too taxing, and you want a high end, quality built cart with state-of-art follow mode feature, the Stewart Q Follow should definitely be on your list.  I must say that the follow mode is quite cool.  Simply walking from shot to shot with "Stewey" tagging along and having your clubs there when you get to the ball could be habit forming.
Thank you for reading this review.  Be sure to check out the "comments" section with the many posts we testers made chronicling our experiences using this product.  Also, check in periodically as myself and the other testers will be adding more findings in the comments section as we get more experience using the product.  
Final Score (25 out of 30 stars)
 

EDEL E.A.S. #4
The Official MyGolfSpy Forum Review by
Sluggo42
 
Looks (9 out of 10 points)

 
 I have always loved the “Fang” shape/style on a putter. The only other “fang” I ever owned was the good old Tommy Armor TA3, which coincidently also won “most wanted” mallet style putter a few times. That’s a great little putter, which i got for $79 from Dicks sporting goods a few years ago. 
The Edel E.A.S #4 is not a putter that jumps off the page when looking at it, but rather draws you in with the simplicity of its general unassuming presence.

The round grip is so simple and basic, yet it’s one of the secrets to its accuracy.

The hexagon dimpled face, and the alignment plate are really the only differentiating aspects from a really basic fang style putter.

I remember reading different articles when I was researching these putters, and I recall a few people having major problems with the alignment plates looks. And then claiming they would never use a putter with such an ugly plate.

 
It makes me laugh at how people can be so judgmental about something so trivial, when actually they might be the person who could really benefit from the system. Look at the pictures we are all posting and if you find the looks to be so bad that you wouldn’t use it, and then please tell me why in the comments section.
It’s clean and simple really, as seems to be the case with most of the classic clubs, like some good old Mizuno blades, right? The putter cover is a thing of beauty though, and the soft black rabbit fur on the inside is luxurious. (no real animals were harmed, and its not real rabbit fur….c’mon man!)
 
 
Sound & Feel (10 out of 10 points)
From the very first putt to the last putt I’ve taken since taking possession of “Adele”, this has been the best feeling, as well as an exceptionally good sounding as any putter that’s ever been in my bag. Its similar, yet slightly softer than may Evnroll, but has a very similar sound. It’s a solid knock that isn’t hollow or mushy in any way. Kind of how a forged blade feels on a flush strike, vs. a hollow filled club. It just tells you it was a clean strike.
 




Basic Characteristics (20 out of 20 points)
I spent an hour and a half on the practice green while getting fitted, so I had numerous putts as I was getting used to its feel and distance attributes. By the time my fitting was done I had already bonded to the club in an almost intimate way. 
My aim is true -  (Elvis Costello, 1977)
For once in my life with a putter, this is true. The ball actually goes where I aim. Point and shoot actually works now. 
Distance control now actually means something as I am rarely more then a few feet away for my second putt, the counter balancing in the grip creates this ability.
 
I will use this putter from the fringe almost always, unless I have sprinkler heads in my way. Its much more consistent than chipping for me.
 
On-Course Performance (30 out of 30 points)
This is where this putter shines. I wasn’t ever the greatest putter, and part of the fitting process showed at least one reason why. With the use of the reflective mirror on the putter face, and the laser pointer, it showed that I wasn’t seeing the proper aim to the cup. From about six feet, my aim was a foot off, again and again. Then, the same thing happened when I first started aiming with the Edel putter. Kevin, using a simple magic marker, kept changing the alignment marks until suddenly I was aiming straight at the hole, again and again. I guess everyones brain sees things slightly differently, so just one mark doesn’t necessarily work for everyone. 
So every round I was always missing many putts that I thought I should have been making, or at least be closer. 
I was always in that 34-36 putts per round. I used to laugh to myself when I would read fellow spies talking about sub 30 putt rounds and I always secretly thought they were full of it. 
And I would also like to stress that “putts per round” can be a very misleading stat, as there are so many variables involved with that stat..   Buuuttttt….
Then I suddenly started having sub-30 putt rounds, and I’m talking 26-27 putt rounds, and was scoring well too. But even if I had a round in the 80’s I was still way under 36 putts. I started making some of the 6-8 footers that were a guaranteed miss before. 
 As always, the most difficult putt is the pressure putt. In fact, they came up with a name for it, they call it the yips. Most everyone has experienced the feeling. A 4 footer to win the day, and you pull it left. Dad gummit! It happens in even the best of families. The best cure is being absolutely sure your put will go by simply trusting your aim to be true and letting it happen. 
This putter will give you that trust, and the more putts you make, the more you trust in it. It’s a win-win. I’ve made more pressure putts with Adele, than I ever made with my previous putters. And that is because, I was never really sure of my aim before. Now I am much more sure of my aim, and that’s the first half of the equation. Now I need to just make a pure stroke, and it’s in. If I mess that up its on me, and not the putter.
The final analysis is that I am indeed making more putts. 
 
I never really knew much about the Edel company, and always thought of them as more of a boutique company that made a higher quality club. The E.A.S. putter has done nothing but reinforce this thought. Edel make good stuff, period
It seems these days that there is always some way to improve something with next years model right? But sometimes they get it right and there isn’t really any reason to change. It is my opinion that the E.A.S #4 is correct right now. Don’t change a thing, and just keep making putts.
What I love about this putter is in 3 areas. 
 
1. the round grip - It forces me to really look at the face and alignment plate to get the correct aim
2. the alignment plate - thru trial and error, its the one that allows MY brain to aim correctly
3. the counter balanced grip – It has been perfectly balanced to allow MY brain to choose how far I’m going to hit the ball. 
I think the really cool deal with this putter is that its structured to allow your brain to do the putt programming subconsciously, and it turns the putt into a simple underhanded toss where you don’t have to really think about it, you just “feel” it.
 
Miscellaneous (9 out of 10 points)
Everything about this putter is simple and sweet. From the gorgeous classic head shape to the counter balanced round grip. Heck, even the head cover is a beautiful stitched leather, with a strong magnet to keep it closed.

 

It’s also got a soft furry insides that snuggles the head with its warm hug. The actual fitting process with my fitter “Kevin” was the chord that made this putter into a song. That is what makes this putter, “the” putter.




Play it or Trade it? (20 out of 20 points)
There is absolutely no doubt, this putter will be in my bag till the day they pry it from my cold dead hands, ha-ha. One of the tightest choking points in golf is on the putting green, right? Having the clarity of mind that you know you can put down the roll you want, helps remove the sinister slice of self-doubt. In fact, what happens is that you actually start thinking you can make any putt, and you actually get bothered when you don’t 
I think this flat-stick benefits everyone who plays it, but in my mind, the deathly serious player is the guy this putter is tailor made for. It is made for the guy who has money on every stroke. It is made for the guy who understands the absolute need for perfect accuracy under pressure. This is the guy who doesn’t blink at a larger price tag, because he understands this is the one stick that gets hit more than every other stick in his bag. This is the putter that actually will shave a stroke or two off an already low index.



Conclusion
In conclusion, I couldn’t be any happier with a putter. I almost loved my Tommy Armor TA3, and I really liked my Evnroll ER3, but “Adele” completes me. It’s as close to an extension of my brain to my hand, like a simple underhanded toss can get. I see it, and the putter rolls it. Unfortunately my brain doesn’t always see correctly, but that’s not the putters fault. If I read it right, the putt has a very realistic chance of falling into the cup. The more I play, it seems the better my putting gets.
Sure the price tag is a bit shocking at first glance, but if you really think about it and what you get for your money, its not that bad.
Almost all the Scotty Camerons, and Evnrolls are over $300 right? Usually more I might add. Then, if you add in a custom fitting, that’s going to add an additional $150, so right there you’re at $450.
Now, can you honestly tell me that the driver in your bag didn’t cost a similar number? And do you hit your driver 30 times a round? Because you hit your putter that many time, give or take a few. And yes, we all know a 3” putt is equal to a 280 yard drive. Not as thrilling for sure, but the scorecard doesn’t know the difference.
If you are really serious about the game and would like a real chance at shaving a few strokes off the index, I think the Edel EAS system is a real way to achieve results, that doesn’t require a total relearning of how to swing a club. You will just aim better, and have a closer second putt. And fewer 3-putts will certainly result in lower scores right? 
 
FINAL SCORE  98 out of 100
This putter is as close to perfect as it gets. The reason a putter was invented was to hit the little ball into the hole. In order to do that you need to be able to aim it correctly, and then have the correct speed to make it all come together.
Your brain is the computer that programs the event and the Edel EAS putter is the tool that completes the process. If you are serious about the game, you owe yourself to give them a look.
**********
Some new stuff!
**********
The weight kit arrived!

It cost me $75, so I’m really hoping for some results. Today’s round was hot and dry, not my normal dewy morning with wet greens. They were tight and fast and I was going long. Tomorrow I’m expecting a similar day, so I’ll install a heavier weight that’s supposed to slow my stroke down. They are sized at 5, 10, 15, 20, 25 grams.


The stock one is 15 grams. It’s pretty interesting how much weight difference there really is between the 5 and the 25g weights.
they did come in a nice little zippered case that will stow easily in your bag, so you’re always ready for adjustments depending on what the practice green tells you before you’re round.


Its got a nifty little wrench included in the kit, so a quick weight change should be a snap. 

 

I’ll post some  thoughts after tomorrow’s round…
 
UPDATE….
so last week I played at a track with way faster greens, so I figured what a good time to try a heavier weight. So I pulled the 15g, and screwed in the 25g nugget. I didn’t really expect to notice much as c’mon, whats 10g right?
well lemme tell you! It felt significantly heavier. I honestly couldn’t believe it. So I figured what the heck, let’s go up to the practice green and see what it does. The first few rolls were tentative so I was a bit short, expecting the giant hammer of Thor to crush the ball. So then I just let it flow and it suddenly felt superb. I didn’t shoot lights out or anything, but my distance was excellent. 
 
so then I forgot all about it until this mornings round, which was chilly with a heavy dew on the greens. I putted ok, but was mad that I didn’t remember to change out the weight for a light one, as this is how they’re supposed to work. But, I’ll remember this tomorrow morning and try going light. It will be interesting to see how it works…
more to follow…
 
 

EDEL E.A.S. #4
The Official MyGolfSpy Forum Review by
Sluggo42
 
Looks (9 out of 10 points)

 
 I have always loved the “Fang” shape/style on a putter. The only other “fang” I ever owned was the good old Tommy Armor TA3, which coincidently also won “most wanted” mallet style putter a few times. That’s a great little putter, which i got for $79 from Dicks sporting goods a few years ago. 
The Edel E.A.S #4 is not a putter that jumps off the page when looking at it, but rather draws you in with the simplicity of its general unassuming presence.

The round grip is so simple and basic, yet it’s one of the secrets to its accuracy.

The hexagon dimpled face, and the alignment plate are really the only differentiating aspects from a really basic fang style putter.

I remember reading different articles when I was researching these putters, and I recall a few people having major problems with the alignment plates looks. And then claiming they would never use a putter with such an ugly plate.

 
It makes me laugh at how people can be so judgmental about something so trivial, when actually they might be the person who could really benefit from the system. Look at the pictures we are all posting and if you find the looks to be so bad that you wouldn’t use it, and then please tell me why in the comments section.
It’s clean and simple really, as seems to be the case with most of the classic clubs, like some good old Mizuno blades, right? The putter cover is a thing of beauty though, and the soft black rabbit fur on the inside is luxurious. (no real animals were harmed, and its not real rabbit fur….c’mon man!)
 
 
Sound & Feel (10 out of 10 points)
From the very first putt to the last putt I’ve taken since taking possession of “Adele”, this has been the best feeling, as well as an exceptionally good sounding as any putter that’s ever been in my bag. Its similar, yet slightly softer than may Evnroll, but has a very similar sound. It’s a solid knock that isn’t hollow or mushy in any way. Kind of how a forged blade feels on a flush strike, vs. a hollow filled club. It just tells you it was a clean strike.
 




Basic Characteristics (20 out of 20 points)
I spent an hour and a half on the practice green while getting fitted, so I had numerous putts as I was getting used to its feel and distance attributes. By the time my fitting was done I had already bonded to the club in an almost intimate way. 
My aim is true -  (Elvis Costello, 1977)
For once in my life with a putter, this is true. The ball actually goes where I aim. Point and shoot actually works now. 
Distance control now actually means something as I am rarely more then a few feet away for my second putt, the counter balancing in the grip creates this ability.
 
I will use this putter from the fringe almost always, unless I have sprinkler heads in my way. Its much more consistent than chipping for me.
 
On-Course Performance (30 out of 30 points)
This is where this putter shines. I wasn’t ever the greatest putter, and part of the fitting process showed at least one reason why. With the use of the reflective mirror on the putter face, and the laser pointer, it showed that I wasn’t seeing the proper aim to the cup. From about six feet, my aim was a foot off, again and again. Then, the same thing happened when I first started aiming with the Edel putter. Kevin, using a simple magic marker, kept changing the alignment marks until suddenly I was aiming straight at the hole, again and again. I guess everyones brain sees things slightly differently, so just one mark doesn’t necessarily work for everyone. 
So every round I was always missing many putts that I thought I should have been making, or at least be closer. 
I was always in that 34-36 putts per round. I used to laugh to myself when I would read fellow spies talking about sub 30 putt rounds and I always secretly thought they were full of it. 
And I would also like to stress that “putts per round” can be a very misleading stat, as there are so many variables involved with that stat..   Buuuttttt….
Then I suddenly started having sub-30 putt rounds, and I’m talking 26-27 putt rounds, and was scoring well too. But even if I had a round in the 80’s I was still way under 36 putts. I started making some of the 6-8 footers that were a guaranteed miss before. 
 As always, the most difficult putt is the pressure putt. In fact, they came up with a name for it, they call it the yips. Most everyone has experienced the feeling. A 4 footer to win the day, and you pull it left. Dad gummit! It happens in even the best of families. The best cure is being absolutely sure your put will go by simply trusting your aim to be true and letting it happen. 
This putter will give you that trust, and the more putts you make, the more you trust in it. It’s a win-win. I’ve made more pressure putts with Adele, than I ever made with my previous putters. And that is because, I was never really sure of my aim before. Now I am much more sure of my aim, and that’s the first half of the equation. Now I need to just make a pure stroke, and it’s in. If I mess that up its on me, and not the putter.
The final analysis is that I am indeed making more putts. 
 
I never really knew much about the Edel company, and always thought of them as more of a boutique company that made a higher quality club. The E.A.S. putter has done nothing but reinforce this thought. Edel make good stuff, period
It seems these days that there is always some way to improve something with next years model right? But sometimes they get it right and there isn’t really any reason to change. It is my opinion that the E.A.S #4 is correct right now. Don’t change a thing, and just keep making putts.
What I love about this putter is in 3 areas. 
 
1. the round grip - It forces me to really look at the face and alignment plate to get the correct aim
2. the alignment plate - thru trial and error, its the one that allows MY brain to aim correctly
3. the counter balanced grip – It has been perfectly balanced to allow MY brain to choose how far I’m going to hit the ball. 
I think the really cool deal with this putter is that its structured to allow your brain to do the putt programming subconsciously, and it turns the putt into a simple underhanded toss where you don’t have to really think about it, you just “feel” it.
 
Miscellaneous (9 out of 10 points)
Everything about this putter is simple and sweet. From the gorgeous classic head shape to the counter balanced round grip. Heck, even the head cover is a beautiful stitched leather, with a strong magnet to keep it closed.

 

It’s also got a soft furry insides that snuggles the head with its warm hug. The actual fitting process with my fitter “Kevin” was the chord that made this putter into a song. That is what makes this putter, “the” putter.




Play it or Trade it? (20 out of 20 points)
There is absolutely no doubt, this putter will be in my bag till the day they pry it from my cold dead hands, ha-ha. One of the tightest choking points in golf is on the putting green, right? Having the clarity of mind that you know you can put down the roll you want, helps remove the sinister slice of self-doubt. In fact, what happens is that you actually start thinking you can make any putt, and you actually get bothered when you don’t 
I think this flat-stick benefits everyone who plays it, but in my mind, the deathly serious player is the guy this putter is tailor made for. It is made for the guy who has money on every stroke. It is made for the guy who understands the absolute need for perfect accuracy under pressure. This is the guy who doesn’t blink at a larger price tag, because he understands this is the one stick that gets hit more than every other stick in his bag. This is the putter that actually will shave a stroke or two off an already low index.



Conclusion
In conclusion, I couldn’t be any happier with a putter. I almost loved my Tommy Armor TA3, and I really liked my Evnroll ER3, but “Adele” completes me. It’s as close to an extension of my brain to my hand, like a simple underhanded toss can get. I see it, and the putter rolls it. Unfortunately my brain doesn’t always see correctly, but that’s not the putters fault. If I read it right, the putt has a very realistic chance of falling into the cup. The more I play, it seems the better my putting gets.
Sure the price tag is a bit shocking at first glance, but if you really think about it and what you get for your money, its not that bad.
Almost all the Scotty Camerons, and Evnrolls are over $300 right? Usually more I might add. Then, if you add in a custom fitting, that’s going to add an additional $150, so right there you’re at $450.
Now, can you honestly tell me that the driver in your bag didn’t cost a similar number? And do you hit your driver 30 times a round? Because you hit your putter that many time, give or take a few. And yes, we all know a 3” putt is equal to a 280 yard drive. Not as thrilling for sure, but the scorecard doesn’t know the difference.
If you are really serious about the game and would like a real chance at shaving a few strokes off the index, I think the Edel EAS system is a real way to achieve results, that doesn’t require a total relearning of how to swing a club. You will just aim better, and have a closer second putt. And fewer 3-putts will certainly result in lower scores right? 
 
FINAL SCORE  98 out of 100
This putter is as close to perfect as it gets. The reason a putter was invented was to hit the little ball into the hole. In order to do that you need to be able to aim it correctly, and then have the correct speed to make it all come together.
Your brain is the computer that programs the event and the Edel EAS putter is the tool that completes the process. If you are serious about the game, you owe yourself to give them a look.
**********
Some new stuff!
**********
The weight kit arrived!

It cost me $75, so I’m really hoping for some results. Today’s round was hot and dry, not my normal dewy morning with wet greens. They were tight and fast and I was going long. Tomorrow I’m expecting a similar day, so I’ll install a heavier weight that’s supposed to slow my stroke down. They are sized at 5, 10, 15, 20, 25 grams.


The stock one is 15 grams. It’s pretty interesting how much weight difference there really is between the 5 and the 25g weights.
they did come in a nice little zippered case that will stow easily in your bag, so you’re always ready for adjustments depending on what the practice green tells you before you’re round.


Its got a nifty little wrench included in the kit, so a quick weight change should be a snap. 

 

I’ll post some  thoughts after tomorrow’s round…
 
UPDATE….
so last week I played at a track with way faster greens, so I figured what a good time to try a heavier weight. So I pulled the 15g, and screwed in the 25g nugget. I didn’t really expect to notice much as c’mon, whats 10g right?
well lemme tell you! It felt significantly heavier. I honestly couldn’t believe it. So I figured what the heck, let’s go up to the practice green and see what it does. The first few rolls were tentative so I was a bit short, expecting the giant hammer of Thor to crush the ball. So then I just let it flow and it suddenly felt superb. I didn’t shoot lights out or anything, but my distance was excellent. 
 
so then I forgot all about it until this mornings round, which was chilly with a heavy dew on the greens. I putted ok, but was mad that I didn’t remember to change out the weight for a light one, as this is how they’re supposed to work. But, I’ll remember this tomorrow morning and try going light. It will be interesting to see how it works…
more to follow…
 
 

Callaway Epic Speed – Official MGS Forum Review by MaxEntropy

Intro
First, thanks to MGS and Callaway for the opportunity – it is always an honor to be able to see how new products perform in the hands of an “ordinary Joe.”
My name is Blake and I am a 53-year-old living in Akron, Ohio. I caught the golfing bug after graduating from college in 1991 (Go Zags!) and generally played a couple times per month through the 1990’s into the early 2000’s, with a few years of playing in leagues that got me on the course more. With the help of a couple friends and a single lesson that corrected a huge swing flaw, I got my “unofficial” handicap down to around a 14 (18 holes). At that time, my game was all about distance. I could not hit a wood to save my life, so 4i was my go-to off the tee. A solid strike was usually in the 240-yard range, so I saw no need to really worry about woods.
Life smacked me in the face pretty hard in the mid-2000’s and my clubs stayed in the basement for the better part of ten years. A friend encouraged me to get out with him a few times in the mid-2010’s and I’ve become fanatical about golf since then and I joined MyGolfSpy in 2017 in my pursuit of learning more about equipment, techniques, rules, etc.
By the time I started playing again, age had started catching up with me and I had become more out of shape than I would prefer. I can’t even hit a 4i anymore, much less get 240 out of it, so it became apparent to me I needed to figure out how to hit a driver.
For my age/handicap, I am pretty long and being an official tester for SuperSpeed last year was a great help. My baseline swing speed was 102 mph and I peaked at 120 mph near the end of the test period. I have taken the PRGR radar to the course with me a few times, and I will still typically be in the 110-mph range. Not bad for an out-of-shape old(er) fart! I’ve been in a league now for 4 years – I started as a 10 HC (9 holes) and have dropped steadily to the point that about 3 weeks ago I dropped to a 6.  In my opinion, there are two primary reason for the improvement: 1) I am slowly figuring out how to swing a driver (trial and error); and 2) I have become more risk averse when I am in trouble. I used to favor the “spectacular” shot with the low probability of success because DAMN it feels good when you pull it off that 1 time out of 50! Now, I’m more likely to take my medicine and rely on scrambling to minimize the damage. Even then, execution is sometimes an issue.
I wish I could say I have an Ernie Else or Fred Couples swing, but I don’t. I tend to have quick-ish tempo with an aggressive transition. See for yourself…
Swing1.mp4
This video was taken the day after going to the gym for the first time in over a year – not optimal swing, but you get the idea.
My typical ball flight is high, usually with some fade to it. Historically, the banana slice has been my big miss, but over the last few years, I’ve developed a terrible two-way miss when swinging driver with near equal probability the ball is going left or right. 🤦‍♂️

It’s not as bad as it seems, though…oh who am I kidding, it SUCKS! How do you play to your tendency when there isn’t one?!?!? The image above is all drives since I started using Arccos (Aug 2019). The left misses tend to be less tragic than the right on average, so I still play for the ball wanting to go right. From my fitting, I learned that my path is fairly consistent (at least it was that day), so getting/keeping the face where it needs to be is a big issue, which leads to driving being my biggest weakness. The closer I get to the hole, the stronger my game becomes with putting being my biggest strength.

Arccos also tells me that, even though my accuracy off the tee is detrimental, my distance is a strength. Over the last 20 rounds:

My current gamer is a TaylorMade M5 9* I purchased from @MattF in the offseason after he bought his new Titleist. He was playing it with an EvenFlow Blue (stiff), but it also came with a Tensei CK Orange (stiff). Although I had never been fit, I had played around enough at hitting bays in various stores to know that something about the CK Orange agreed with my swing. It didn’t take me long to figure out the CK Orange was my clear choice. I have one of the weights in the “low” position and the other set to “draw”. This has resulted in much better ball flight so I can now get some roll out of my drives! I also love the sound the M5 makes on solid contact. I don’t even really know how to describe it, but it almost seems wood-like rather than metallic to me. Whatever it is, it’s a great sound!
I have this strange mental conflict when it comes to pulling a driver – I know the stats generally say SEND IT and I probably get myself into more trouble than I should by being aggressive (especially with the width of my dispersion cone), but my primary goal with driver is pretty simple – hit the ball as far as I can and hope it ends up some place that leaves me a shot at the green. Most of the courses I play don’t have super long rough, so there really isn’t too much of a penalty for missing the fairway – just give me a shot and I can score better.
I typically play tees in the 6200-6500 yard range. At that length, I probably have the ability to reach about half of the par 5’s in two, depending on the course. At our league course, reaching 3 of the 4 of them in two is not a problem with a decent drive and the 4th is gettable with two perfect shots (which means I’ve never reached in 2). Our league course also happens to be relatively short (5900 yards from the tees we play) so many of the par 4's are little more than a wedge to the green if my drive is in play.
Why did I sign up for the Speed rather than the Max LS? When the announcement first came out, I was attracted to the Max LS due to its design goal of killing spin. Then reading Tony Covey's release article, I saw the following statement: “LS is a relative term. The Epic Max LS is low spin relative to the Epic Max but should generate appreciably more spin than the Mavrik Sub Zero did. In fact, if you’re looking for a new Callaway driver that offers launch and spin characteristics on par with last year’s Sub Zero, your best bet is the buy the Epic Speed and turn the loft down by one degree.” He also made a comment to the effect that the Speed version should be the best fit for the majority of golfers. Good enough for me!
First Impressions
Disclaimer: I have preconceived notions about Callaway – I am not really a fan of the company as a whole. They strike as more of a marketing machine than someone making technological advances and letting the product speak for itself (right or wrong, that’s my perception). A friend has some Apex CF16 irons that I’ve hit a few times, and I don’t like them. The ball test 2 years ago (and the backlash from Callaway employees on social media) did nothing the dissuade my thoughts. With that said, I played a RAZR Fit 3 wood for a few years that I absolutely loved and have considered testing it against my current Bridgestone 3W. I am also a fan of the Stroke Lab putter I tested a couple summers ago, so even with my thoughts about the company, I like to think I am open-minded enough to play what helps me score better.
These days, even though the marketing hype around Jailbreak/AI Speed Frame and Flash Face are substantial, the technology behind the marketing at least sounds legit to me. According to Callaway, both Flash Face and AI Speed Frame are intended to help with forgiveness by maintaining speed on off-center strikes. Is this true? So far, I have seen some very good forgiveness on balls hit very high on the face, so that’s encouraging. Nothing in on the heel or too far out on the toe just yet, so we’ll have to see.
I understand my inability to hit a driver consistently is very much a “me” thing, but the questions I have is will the forgiveness built into these heads help? What role will playing a shaft that is closer to optimized mean for me? I won’t recap my shaft fitting – it’s described in detail in the comments, but I ended up with the Epic Speed 9* with the MMT 70 X-stiff. I ordered an Align grip, but due to an error in the build, it is currently on a MMT 70 Stiff shaft sitting in my basement. I blew a fairly new SuperStroke Cross Comfort Midsize off my old SW and it is now on the Epic. The good news is that, time permitting, I can do some testing with the Stiff version to help determine if any improvement is related to the shaft, the head, or both.
In the short time I have played the M5, I have grown to like it, so in order for the Epic Speed to kick it out of the bag, I am going to need to see something substantial to warrant it. For me, that means a measurable (statistically significant) improvement in dispersion, preferably with similar distance. I need something that finds less trouble! I saw a comment from @chisag in one of the threads related to distance. Something to the effect that a shot on the same line as his 260-yard drive in the rough that carries 300 will find a lot more trouble. This fact is not lost on me and had me concerned during the SuperSpeed testing. Specifically, that I was going to find myself in more trouble in new places that were previously unreachable to me. Fortunately, I can only think of a couple occurrences where that has likely been the case, but I hope the Epic Speed is able to help as much as it can in the hands of someone like me.
Let’s get on to the pictures….


The glossy black carbon fiber crown is very attractive to me. I typically prefer more of a matte finish because smudges show up so easily with high gloss. With the black MMT shaft and gray grip, I think the package looks very good to me.

The head shape is nice and looks good behind a ball. One thing I have noticed is that if I let a driver sit on the ground how it wants to naturally, the M5 wants to open up the face, whereas the Epic Speed stays pretty neutral. I wonder if this tendency has any effect on me psychologically, thinking I have to try to get the face square knowing it wants to be open. Real effect or placebo, I have no idea, just a thought.

I tried to do my best to make sure the perspective was the same in the above pics. Although I failed, I think it does illustrate my point – the M5 naturally wants to sit open.
The graphics on the sole are OK – a little busier than I prefer, especially without any weight tracks to add to it, but I do like the color scheme. This is of no concern to me as I never see the sole except when I am taking off/putting on the head cover (or posing it for pictures).

I really like the head cover. Yes, it is a tight fit initially, but it has already started to loosen up some. My only concern is it being primarily white – me and white don’t mix. I’m sure I’ll find a way to spill coffee on it even though I almost never have coffee on the course. I am being careful, though. I want it to look as pristine as possible for as long as possible.
My primary intention with testing is to rent some simulator time to get firm numbers on both drivers – hopefully enough swings to determine whether any differences are statistically significant. Do those numbers translate to the course?

Thanks again to MGS and Callaway. It's time to have some fun!
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8/22/21

Callaway Epic Speed – Final Review by MaxEntropy
I’ve now had the properly-spec’d driver in my hands for about 7 weeks. In that time, I have had 3 good range sessions (and 1 not-so-good), played 117 holes of golf, and spent an hour on a simulator. (There was also a range session and 36 holes with the Epic Speed head and the wrong shaft). On the course, I made no effort to do and A versus B testing – my driver swing is too inconsistent, so I saw little value in trying it. At the range was a different story – almost all focus was on pounding the ball with the competitors – TaylorMade M5 with Tensei CK Orange S versus Callaway Epic Speed with Mitsubishi MMT 70 X. I tried hitting 5 or 10 at a time with each, hoping to establish some sort of a groove. In the simulator, I wanted to make sure I was doing as well as could be with each so hit as many as was required to end up with 15 “acceptable” shots each (i.e. neglecting tops and obviously bad contact) before switching clubs.
On to the results….
One of my primary goals with this test was to see if my accuracy would be improved. I am plenty long for my age and handicap but tend to spray the ball too badly (see shot distribution in the Intro which is all driver shots since I started using Arccos until I put the Epic Speed in play). Whether any resulting improvement is related to a properly fitting shaft or the Callaway head (or combination of the two), I don’t really care. I believe the only way I could truly separate the head from the shaft would be put a CK Orange in the Epic, but that is not likely to happen. If you recall, Callaway made a mistake on my original build and sent an MMT 70 S. I did make some effort to see some shaft effect (at least S versus X in the MMT).
I have spilled some of the beans already in this and other threads – the Epic Speed/MMT 70 X really has almost become an anti-left machine for me. This is great news as it allows me to go back to playing for a fade/slice. There are still occasions where I hit the high, wipey fade, but I know that is more of a “me” problem and no technology is going to fix that.
Here are some Arccos screen caps. First is my driver dispersion and distribution since I started using the M5…


My average dispersion is nearly 75 yards wide (I assume the ellipse contains ~50% of the shots) with extremes spanning almost 160 yards(!!!!!) and the most probable result is left. I struggled to pick a target line with this data in mind, so I would typically aim towards the center and pray for the best. FYI – the 311 was real – I smoked that ball but got an atypical August-like bounce and roll in June.
Now looking at the same data for the Epic Speed…


Average dispersion has gone down to something more like 55 yards and, if I neglect the one way, way left (that one was a wind-aided brutal pull, toe-hook. Fortunately, the hole it happened on has plenty of bail-out room over there), the overall span is down to “only” 120 yards. I am also now hitting more fairways with more misses being on the right. I would argue with time this will get even better. Now that I can have almost no thought about the left (most of them are toe-hooks), I am getting more and more confident about aiming up the left side without fear of a looming pull/pull hook. As I have been looking at the data to write this, it is just giving me more confidence. FYI – the 331 was aided by cart path, so it is not real, unfortunately.
Anyway, on to the grades…
Looks (8 out of 10)
The package is generally attractive, and I like how the club sits very neutral on the ground (unlike the M5 that likes to sit open). I docked a couple points just because I am not a big fan of glossy finishes – they show smudges and water marks too easily. The graphics on the sole are OK to me – perhaps a bit busier than I like, but since I almost never see them, it doesn’t really matter. The current colors are certainly better than the orange of the Mavrik, in my opinion. Combining the black head with the black MMT shaft with very little graphics and gray SuperStroke grip makes a sexy package.
Sound and Feel (9 out of 10)
The club feels great and, although I am addicted to the sound of the M5, this one produces a very satisfying, albeit more metallic sound than the TaylorMade. Strangely, the sound is completely different than the Epic Max LS a good friend of mine purchased this year. I docked it 1 measly point for a very minor aerodynamic issue – the club whistles. I assume this is due to air passing over the hosel screw cavity at around 105 – 110 mph. Fortunately, I only notice it during practice swings, but I assume it still happens on real swings.
Basic Characteristics (18 out of 20)
I ordered the 9 deg head and currently have the hosel set to -1 and neutral. This combination has given me closer to the ball flight I have been searching for. It still seems a bit higher than the M5 but is perfectly acceptable and I now am getting some roll on all but the dampest of courses. I cannot assess the workability of this club as I never try to work the ball. Clearly the accuracy is an improvement over the M5 at equal distance. Jailbreak and Flash Face are also for real! Both are intended to help maintain ball speed on off-center strikes, which I read as forgiveness. Generally, I do decent job of hitting near the center of the face with typical misses being either very high on the face or out towards the toe. In both cases, I’ve ended up with pretty ridiculous distance out of these misses, frequently still ending up in the 250+-yard range, so I give this club very high marks for forgiveness. In terms of adjustability, other than the hosel, there is none, whereas the Epic Max LS has an adjustable weight. I can only assume it was deemed unnecessary for their target demographic, but I docked them two points for the lack of a weight track.
On-Course/LM Performance (30 out of 30)
To try to get some firm numbers I rented a bay at the Golf Galaxy near me. They have updated both of their hitting bays with all new screens, projectors, and switched from Foresight to Trackman. I took the Epic Speed (with both the MMT 70 X and the MMT 70 S) and the M5. I used my own balls – TM TP5 Pix. After warming up with the Orange Whip, I hit just a few leisurely drives to make sure I felt loose. I started with the Epic Speed with the MMT70 X. My routine was to hit as many balls as needed until I had 15 “good” shots. “Good” was determined entirely by carry distance as a measure of how solid the contact was. I did not want to start getting too subjective with left/right issues, especially given the amount of time I had in the bay, so anything with a carry less than 235 was excluded, everything over that was included, regardless of direction.

To me, the most shocking thing was the amount of spin with the 70 X, especially if you compare it to what was nominally the same head/shaft combo from the fitting (* in the table is data from the fitting). Why did I gain nearly 500 rpm? I guess the main point, from a statistical perspective, is there is almost no difference between any of these combinations from a distance perspective. The dispersion chart shows the MMT 70 X (purple) as the best, followed by the MMT 70 S (blue), and the M5 (red). The red dot at the top of the chart is a good example of my filtering criteria – it was solid contact, carried over 250, but was nearly 20 yards further left than anything else.

To-date, the on-course performance has been very good to me – I’ve nearly double my fairways hit and almost eliminated one side of the course. What’s not to like about that?!?!? Unfortunately, this has not translated to lower scores – I guess that happens when you have a great driving day but can’t hit an iron to save your life or you putt like garbage. As I stated in my intro, I would be willing to sacrifice some distance for improved accuracy. Fortunately, that does not appear to be needed. According to Arccos and Trackman, distance has stayed the same. I think there is still “meat on the bone” where distance is concerned if I can lower the launch/spin just a hair, although with no more adjustments I can make, that means tweaks to my swing (not a bad thing, but more time consuming).
Both the launch monitor and the on-course data seem to confirm each other – distance is essentially the same and dispersion is greatly reduced with the Epic Speed.
Based on this experience, I have to be honest and say that this club has somewhat changed my opinion about Callaway. There are still some preconceived notions that will need to be overcome, but this experience goes a long way towards swaying me.
Miscellaneous (0 out of 10)
When I first received the driver, I was jacked up and ready to roll. Then I discovered they sent the wrong shaft (MMT 70 S instead of MMT 70 X). They rectified the situation fairly quickly and even let me keep the “wrong” shaft. If this had been a “one-off” mistake, I would be more willing to overlook this, but Callaway had build errors on 3 out of the 4 of us. To me, that seems very unprofessional for a company with Callaway’s overall reputation. Does this kind of thing happen to normal paying customers? Was the process different due to this being a forum test? We know the specs were accurate when they left MGS. Maybe I’m being harsh here, but 3 out of 4 clubs wrong is not good and delayed things quite a bit.
Play It or Trade It (20 out of 20)
I know the fight was close for a couple of the other testers, but for me, there really is no debate. I was hoping for better accuracy and got it. I was willing to accept a loss in distance, yet I’m seeing at least the same. How much is due to the head? How much is due to the shaft? I don’t know and I don’t care. Is anybody interested in buying an M5 with two shafts?
Conclusion
TL;DR – For this particular 53 year old with a relatively high swing speed, the Epic Speed has dramatically improved my accuracy and almost eliminated one side of the course for me. Expectations in this sport being what they are, is it actually reasonable for a 14-ish handicap to expect any better than what I saw the last couple months? I kind of doubt it. With improving self-awareness, I am working on the big miss to the right, but the left misses are almost becoming a fluke, which opens my comfort level for proper targets given my natural shot shape. If I can continue to whittle away at the dispersion, I can’t see how my scores would not improve over time – more shots at the green will lead to lower scores.
Final Score (85 out of 100)
Thanks, again to MyGolfSpy and Callaway for the awesome opportunity!
Time to go hit more bombs….
 

Callaway Epic Speed Driver – Official MGS Forum Review by Rob Westendorf (Siamese Moose)
Intro
Let me start by thanking MyGolfSpy and Callaway Golf for this wonderful opportunity! I will do my best to live up to everyone's expectations.
I am 61, and currently have a 6.4 handicap. I have been as low as a 2 about a decade ago, but in the last four years really turned into a "senior" golfer. I've been through two back surgeries and a right shoulder A/C joint repair, and have consequently lost about 15 mph on my driver speed, and a lot on my back stamina. Due to these injuries my swing had become a miserable patchwork of compensations and band-aids, and last year I started working again with my old instructor (Steve Nelson, Miles of Golf - Cincinnati) to build a new swing that's easier on my body as well as more effective. The changes are quite large, so I am still working on eliminating years of muscle memory. I don't have a video of my old swing, but it was ugly enough that it would frighten you. My new swing has a medium to medium-quick tempo (down from super quick), and I am still working on slowing it down further, which is where I am getting my best results. My swing speed is 94-95 mph, and I generate very low spin numbers. My driver flight is about medium height, usually very little curvature, often a slight pull. Compared to my friends, driving is one of my strengths. I was fitted last October for a Ping G410 with an Aldila NV2K orange shaft in stiff at 45". I have been very happy with this driver, and it's hard to imagine doing better. We will see! I like being aggressive with the driver. I usually choose tees in the 6400 yard range, and for most local courses that gives me at least one chance to reaching a par 5 in two in most rounds. 
My comments for this review are going to run a couple weeks behind the other testers. I recently suffered a cras h in a bike race, and have a hairline fracture of my T6 vertebrae, and a rather painful contusion on my back. I have started playing again, but I'm not yet swinging freely, so it's hard to make judgements on a driver. For that same reason I don't yet have a video of my driver swing, but I do have this with a hybrid:

Hybrid Swing.mp4 I was fitted for the Epic Speed by Eric Hensler (also Miles of Golf), and the stock Project X HZRDUS Smoke IM 10 was the best fit. Eric fitted me to 44.75", but unfortunately the club was delivered at 44" However, a new shaft should be here soon. In the meantime there's nothing stopping me from playing it at the shorter length. That means, however, that I should be able to get some numbers on the two different shaft lengths, which is a common topic of discussion here. I will add that my instructor generally prefers seniors to go with a longer shaft, not for swing speed, but in that it promotes a flatter swing that is more around the body, and for most of us that is a more comfortable and repeatable motion.
Update: When I went to my range to get Trackman numbers my fitter pointed out that the shaft included was NOT the one he fit me for. The colors are near identical, but instead of the HRZDUS SMOKE IM10, what arrived was the HRZDUS SMOKE Green PVD, which is a $345 upcharge model. The bend profiles are quite different, and the Trackman numbers (in the comments thread) bear out the the Green was far too low spin for me.
First Impressions
The club is gorgeous! It's a nice gloss black with a simple alignment mark (Callaway's trademark chevron), and while "Epic" is written across the back edge, I don't notice that at address. Compared to my G410 it has a very simlar shape, just slightly shorter heel to toe and slightly deeper:
The first shaft delivered, the SMOKE Green, is a beautiful deep green that nicely compliments the green accent color of the head:
The proper shaft that followed is similar looking if you don't know the full range, but obviously different when placed side by side:
Too bad the SMOKE Green shaft isn't right for me. It's real purrty!
Callaway touts it's "Jailbreak Speed Frame" construction, which they say "Improves stability in horizontal and torsional direction for increased ball speeds across the face." My big miss, which comes when I'm tired, is to lose my spine angle and pull up and away on the downswing, leading to hits high on the toe. Improved performance on that miss is my Holy Grail, and that might well be the aspect I'm looking for the most from this club.
As I mentioned, I got fit for this club. I could have easily have gotten the loft right myself, and the slight draw bias matches the weight settings I have my my Ping. The fitting was primarily about the shaft. I learned long ago that I like counter balanced shafts, going back to the old Harmon Tour Design HTD series of the 90's. It's why I have Aldila NV shafts in all of my woods. The HZRDUS Smoke is right in there, and i liked it as soon as I first tried it in the fitting. We tested at 44", 44.75", and 46" (the three lengths Eric had available). My center hits at 44.75" were better than at 44", but at 46" I was awful. So 44.75" it is! Like most modern drivers it has an adjustable hosel, but unlike my Ping, where the adjustments are fine tuning, the Callaway has bigger changes. I essentially have four options: Standard loft and lie (10.5° and 59°), +2° loft and standard lie, +1° loft plus draw lie, and -1° loft and draw lie. Based on my earliest swings I won't be changing from the standard setting. 
I have played a little with the club so far, but since my back is still crash sore, I don't want to pass any judgement this early. My intial impression is good, but I have no numbers yet. (I will make one early observation: compared to the G410 the sound is a lower pitched "thwack", and it sounds more powerful, and I like it.) Going forward I will be playing as much as I can, and whenever possible will hit both the Epic and G410 and chart my results. I have a Trackman session scheduled for July 27th, and I plan to have numbers for both drivers, as well as both shaft lengths for the Epic. I should also have a video of my driver swing up soon as well. Wish me luck in healing, and thanks again to Callaway for the opportunity! 
Update 19 August, on to my final review!
Looks: 9 out of 10 points
The head is a pretty classic shape, a little deeper than broad, with what Callaway calls a mid footprint. The top is a deep gloss black, and you can just see the carbon weave under the finish. The standard Callaway chevron is a nice simple alignment mark that I really like. It has "Epic" written on the trailing edge with a few green lines, but this is nice and subtle, and I never noticed it at address except when looking at it critically for this review. I frankly don't care about the looks of the sole, since I don't see it once it's out of the bag, but the white and green graphics look decent against a real nice black chrome background. If you want a formal traditional look, this isn't quite it, but I think having the slight showiness calls attention to the high tech nature of the design. I can't take any points off for the head alone. My one point off is for the shaft, and I'm probably not being fair here. There is nothing wrong whatsoever with the dark charcoal of the SMOKE IM10 shaft. However, I fell in love with the rich green of the SMOKE Green shaft originally sent by mistake, so by comparison, the IM10 shaft costs a one point deduction. My regular driver is a Ping G410, with the turbulators and a matte finish, and I like the Epic Speed looks significantly better.
Sound and Feel: 8 out of 10 points
I tried to record the sound to compare it to my Ping, but my phone video quality is not good enough to tell a what I think is a rather distinct difference. Whereas my Ping has a higher pitched metallic note, the Epic Speed is a deeper sound that doesn't make me think it's hitting a metal face at all. It's a solid thwack. It's an exaggerated comparison, but the Ping is more like an aluminum baseball bat, while the Callaway is more a major league wooden bat. For my taste, the Callaway wins hands down. (I'll point out, however, the Ping sound is not objectionable like some of the other brands I've heard, just not as sexy to my ear.)
Describing feel is difficult for me. I don't have much sense for different sensations, especially compared to how I hear others describe their experiences. Hit dead center, the club feels really solid. Hit on the toe, the club still feels really solid. If that's due to the Jailbreak technology, I'd say it works. Hit on the heel, the club feels even more solid. This is where I'm taking off two points. I don't think mishits should ever feel better than good strikes. I asked my playing partners to just listen to my drives, and estimate the strike quality just on sound. They could tell if I hit it thin or way on the toe, but they also described my heel hits as sounding like I really pured one. 
Basic Characteristics: 18 out of 20
I'm not a "player" when it comes to driving. I just want it to start on line with minimal curve, and preferably the same curve very time. I don't try to work it. I want predictability. My whole life I've hit it low. It's only since I got the Ping last year that I've hit a mid trajectory ball. The Epic Speed is very close to the Ping. The Trackman numbers say I hit it marginally higher (93' vs. 87'), but there's not enough difference for me to eyeball it. My full Trackman charts are in the comments thread, but the averages are: 
  Shaft Club Speed Ball Speed Launch Angle Spin Rate Land Angle Height Carry Total Ping G410 Aldila NV 2K Orange 91.5 136.4 16.1 2178 36.1 87 222.8 248 Callaway Epic Speed SMOKE IM10 90.7 135.7 16.7 2339 38 93 223.5 246.2 Callaway Epic Speed SMOKE Green 90.7 134.9 16.4 1890 34.4 82 219.1 244.2 (Note: I edited out one shot from the SMOKE Green shaft, as it was a massive outlier.)
There's very little to pick between my Ping and the Epic Speed with the IM10 shaft. As a scientist by trade, I'd say they're the same within statistical allowances. I included my numbers from the "wrong" shaft (SMOKE Green). A great many people post here with the same question, "Can I really change spin that much with a different shaft?" Based on a nearly 500 rpm difference between the two SMOKE shafts, I'd answer that as "Yes!" FWIW, the manufacturer describes the IM10 as a mid-low launch and spin shaft, and the Green as low for both. I'd bet if you used their mid or mid-high launch and spin models the difference would become even more pronounced.
I tried to quantify forgiveness by tracking my numbers for mishits on the course, as well as by trying to intentionally create mishits using Trackman. Those numbers were a confusing mess, so I can't reasonably claim any firm conclusions. My impressions, however, were that my more extreme misses, especially on the toe, did better with the Epic Speed than the G410. I can remember a few swings that were just awful that were only 20 yards shorter than average. That's about half the loss that I expected. My heel misses, on the other hand, tended to be further left with the Epic Speed, including a couple lost balls.
I tried a final range session yesterday, where all I did was change the hosel settings and look for differences. These numbers were worthless also. I found that, because I sole the club before starting my swing, that the head would always end up in the same orientation, regardless of hosel setting. I think I was adjusting my hands and arms to the way the club lay, and negating the hosel changes. If you hover the club (which my instructor wants me to do, but I just can't manage to make it work) I'm sure it would show a greater impact. Note that the Epic Speed does NOT have adjustable weights. Callaway says it's a "semi-draw flight bias", and it certainly seems to be about the same as my G410 with the weight set in the "draw" position. My inability to make any changes to ball flight is why I deducted a couple points.
On Course Performance: 29 out of 30 points
The range is fine for testing, but on the course is where it matters. I've played mostly the Epic Speed since receiving it, but I also have a number of rounds where I hit both it and my Ping from the same tee for comparison. (I did not do this when it slowed down play, or generally late in a round when my swing started getting less predictable.) I can't measure carry on the course, but I can get total yardage. I measured accuracy by a personal judgement of quality of 0 to 5, where 0 means I hit it exactly where I intended (not neccesarily the center of the fairway), and 5 is a lost ball. Those averages are:
  Yd Quality Ping 231.6 1.53 Callaway 225.1 1.71 Not much difference here, but a small edge in both measures to my Ping. My best judgement of why the Ping edged out the Epic Speed is the shaft. I think the Aldila NV2K is about as perfect as it gets for me, and just edges out the SMOKE IM10. The Aldila, however, is a $100 upcharge shaft, while the IM10 is stock, so it means the overall Ping price is higher. Still, that small difference in these numbers is why I took points away. I would dearly love to put my Aldila shaft in the Epic Speed and confirm my suspicion. I understand why every manufacturer has it's own hosel system, but right now I really wish there was a standard.
I'm not good at trying to be super aggressive with the driver. When I try to "really bomb one!" my tendency is to get quick, both in takeaway and in transition, and my hands race ahead of my body. All too often it's a short pop fly to right field. However, as testers we're asked to get out of our comfort zone and challenge the club and ourselves, so I tried it more than a few times. (Note: I did not include these results in the "quality" number in the chart above.) I failed more often than succeeded. These attempts account for almost of of the balls I've lost since this test started. (To be fair to Callaway, I tried the same thing with my Ping, with generally the same results.) When it worked, though, I had a few monster results. I had a handful of 250 yard carries, and a couple in the 290 range with roll. 
Overall, the Epic Speed performed quite well for me, just a couple inches from perfect. The performance on toe misses means that Callaway's Jailbreak technology really has made more of the face faster. The feel and sound are awesome, and I hope they never change it. Looking closer at Callaway's product matrix, I think I might be better served by the Epic Max, though Callaway's online model selector does recommend the Epic Speed for me.
Miscellaneous: 7 out of 10 points
This is about little things. The box it came in is a marvel of packaging. Everything was not only well protected and secure, but the box didn't have all of it's parts glued together. It was easy to disassemble, and I didn't need a knife to get it into the recyle bin. The head cover is well made and fits snugly, though all of the white on it is starting to show more dirt than I'd like. (But then, I use an MGS headcover anyway.) All of my interactions with Callaway were through MGS, so I can't ding them for the slight slowness between being selected as a tester and getting something to test. Where I am deducting points is the club coming with the wrong shaft. That's serious. I would not have realized it if I hadn't gone back to my fitter for Trackman numbers, but then again, if I had ordered it through him he would have known it was wrong before I ever got it in my hands.
Play It or Trade It? 18 out of 20 Points
Most of us never get the chance to test a driver over two months, not to mention comparing it to a club that my fitter says is an exceptionally good fit for me. If I were to compare this to the Cleveland or Wishon drivers I had at this time last year, it would be a slam dunk into the bag, and you'd have to kill me to take it away. At $530 list I'm not going to be changing drivers very often, but it's certainly in the range of fair compared to competitors. I'm a little torn right now. I think the performance improvement on toe misses is attractive enough that I am seriously considering buying an Aldila shaft to see if my performance suspicion is right. (Actually, the more I think about it the more likely I am to do it. I used to do a bunch of clubmaking, and I miss tinkering.) It's been a while since I had a Callaway club, and I'll admit that I thought they were a step behind in technology, just a step ahead of most in marketing. I don't feel that way any longer.
Conclusion
This is a damn fine club! In performance it comes out to 99% of a club my fitter says is an exceptional match, and it did so without the upcharge shaft in my G410. It looks better than the Ping, and it sounds better than any other current driver I've heard. I know most of the people who read this are probably stronger hitters than I am, but I am a Senior, and probably closer to the average strength player than most of you. The draw bias in this club is perfect for most of us, and sometimes I think not having adjustable weights is a good thing (my friends who tinker have screwed themselves up). I'm going to keep the club and reshaft it, and see if I can push it past my previous 100% level.
Final Score: 89 out of 100

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Introduction
First off thanks to MSG for selecting me as a tester for the Epic Max LS and for Callaway for offering the testing opportunity. I started golfing with my Dad around 12 and played a lot in high school before a lull around college, but now I am back. I have been getting more serious about the game in the past couple years, and as a person who works with data well MSG was a site I really liked.
So… about that golf game. I have been self-taught all this time (code for never 100% sure what I am doing and always working on something) but have backed into a halfway decent game. Putting is probably the strongest part of my game with things getting worse the further back from the green we go. Which of course means driving is the biggest issue. I have always fought a slice and now that I understand the swing more adding too much dynamic loft. This means I am always down to try a new driver to help get that swing into shape.

EpicDriverSwingShorter.mp4 So, with this test I am looking forward to working with a driver that has a more forward center of gravity to help with dynamic loft and to keep the spin manageable. Of course, Callaway’s biggest driver story has been jailbreak now the AI Speed Frame coupled with the AI Flash Face. To go with this speed Callaway has moved their low spin version in their more forgiving driver shape, now its speed and forgiveness, what’s not to like. To top it off the rear movable weight can affect COG and closure rates of the clubs. What can’t this club do? The real question is does it matter? Well let’s get busy finding out.
Testing Strategy
To that end I want to be transparent about how I am testing the driver on performance. My current gamer is Cobra SZ Extreme at 9° that will serve as the comparison. There is a local location with a GC Quad where I can collect data including head data. So here are they ways I will be testing.
Shot Scope for strokes gained data Measured GC Quad performance including Ball speed Spin Rates Dispersion Ball speed retention of off-center hits (I mean I never mishit it) Launch Etc. I hope to deliver some cool looking charts about this data to make it exciting. I know exciting charts is a bit of an oxymoron but trust me I do that for a living. The overall goals will be if this driver can reduce spin and manage launch without sacrificing dispersions this will be a home run of a test. 
First Impressions
It all started as all these tests do, with a long brown box…



 
The only tool for a job like this, the golf swiss army knife,  I knew my Dad gave this to me for a reason . Opening this was like Christmas in the summer! The box was very well packed and looked well cared for, and there was a great attention to detail. I also really like the personal card with the specs of your order on it. As my first MSG test I might just have to frame this on and put in in my office 
First impressions are that this club looks absolutely great. With the shiny carbon crown, chev log and small epic and the back of the club head. A nice clean look, with that hint of tech, a nice balance for sure. The sole of the club has a nice color scheme, with the carbon toe section. I really like my choice of the HZRDUS Smoke Black and the Lamkin UTx with green cap, which in all honesty color matching was the main reason for picking that grip. It was a good call by me as the club looks sharp. Will it help me hit it better of course no, but I sure will look good slicing it into the woods.
The bottom might be a little busy for some but coming from the Cobra SZ Extreme it looks almost a bit understated by comparison. Speaking of comparisons, the shape is indeed elongated some, that more modern look, and very similar to the SZ Extreme. One change is obviously the Max LS has the weight adjustability which the fiddler in me will probably mover around way too many times.
One tiny negative is that the head cover is currently a bit tough to put on, but I am sure that will get easier as I use it more, which of course will be a lot now. Overall, this is everything I expected and more. I can't wait to get to the range and the course and give this a baby a whirl. And early returns are that if you hit the ball as you intend then yes it does go well off the tee. Stay tuned for more!
 
 


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Final Review - 8/23
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Final Review
Well, it has been a fun summer with the Epic and as my first MSG testing opportunity I have really enjoyed the process. Getting to take a good look at a great new club and compare to my current gamer has been an amazing opportunity. Again, thank you so much to the MSG team and Callaway I am truly grateful. So, lets dive on in and see if the driver lived up to its name…
Looks - 10 out of 10
Right from opening that wonderful big brown box on my door step this driver has looked amazing. I love the simple black top with the carbon starting to show through, simple chev alignment aid is just perfect. I also am a fan of an elongated driver look like the SZ Extreme and the Max LS is in that mold, though makes sense as I still have a soft spot for my old ’07 TM Burner. Then on the sole I really like Callaway’s color choices, as green is a personal favorite. The toe piece is a nice design choice and I think adds some nice pop to the bottom of the club. The sole might seem busy compared to a TSi3 say, but a step down from my Cobra SZ or the Rad Speed so I think it fits in that middle ground. I also enjoyed how the shaft and grip I choose to fit the color way of the driver for one complete package.
Sound and Feel - 8 out of 10
Overall, I have enjoyed both the sound and feel of the club. I have found the sound to be more muted than my Cobra. More like a dull ping, like a cowbell with the end covered say, whereas the Cobra had that high pitch to it that was less pleasant. I still would have preferred a bit more muted on the sound, that duller Taylormade crack that sounds more like a baseball bat, but the Callaway is still very good. Personally, feel is something that I struggle to tell the difference on with many clubs and is not something that would affect how I feel about a club as long as it performs. The Callaway and my Cobra both feel similar with a nice solid feeling, which after camping reminds me of hitting a tent stake into the soft ground, that last strike when you hit the ground and the stake there is a firm feel with some rebound. Solid but with that face flex as the ball takes off, sorry to those that use campers that is the best comparison I got right now.
Basic Characteristics - 19 out of 20
Now to the basics of the club and what I have felt about it. My first swing with the driver was on course and it did not disappointment. A nice low fade to the middle of that fairway. Coming into this test understanding more how I deliver the club I was hoping for a club that could help lower launch and spin, and well the Epic Max LS with their more forward CG did the trick. This driver has definitely brought the launch down, even on my bad swings versus my Cobra. With that has come a more controllable spin as well. When working on a launch monitor, I noticed the immediate effect in my dynamic loft coming down at least a couple degrees to pull that launch down and spin.
I did get to play around with the sliding weight and hosel adjustments which does help control the launch and face closure rate when using the weight. In testing both on the launch monitor and driving range the forgiveness has been exceptional. It has tightened my dispersion and I have found the confidence to hit driver on tighter holes again. Just check out this one range session where the Epic took the Cobra to the cleaners.
Club
Swing Speed
Ball Speed
Total Distance
Fairway %
Epic Max LS
100.8
145
258
70%
SZ Extreme
101.2
137.9
246.3
40%
 
To pair with this forgiveness the distance potential has been really great. Especially in my last GC Quad session, as seen in the images here, the Epic has come alive. When getting the ball position right the Epic just dominated. Getting dynamic loft down to 18, still hitting a few degrees up on it, resulting in low 2000s spin with launch in and around 15 leading to multiple balls carrying 270 and rolling out to just over 290, the final rows of the GC Quad data below. These are numbers I have not seen with my Cobra and I think really speaks to its power. One thing I wanted to include but lost with a failed GC Quad data export was the ball speed on mishits, one of Callaway’s big claims. Though anecdotally the smash factor on off center hits did seem to be a bit better on Callaway, though its tough to say without that data (shakes fist in the air).



The only small nitpick is that head does seem a bit slow higher on the face, when hitting one higher on the face on course and on the monitor took off a bit more speed that I would have liked, but again a very small issue.
On Course Performance - 28 out of 30
As mentioned previously the first ball on course was my first swings with the club and the Callaway went off out without a hitch. A nice lower fade to center cut and this was a pattern that continued where this club really performed. Even when swinging poorly this club fit me much better. It reduced my curvature left to right and lowered the peak height. Of course, it was not immune to my really bad swings, but keeping that more forgiving shape with the more forward CG feels like it delivered the best of both worlds. On a number of occasions when hitting the SZ Extreme and the Max LS side by side the Callaway was hitting it longer on average and in a much better window almost every time.
The driver really came alive in my last round at Owls Nest where I hit multiple drives over 260 even on a windy day. I hit the driver on a few holes where it might have been a bit silly, and it still delivered. It even helped me play a slightly longer tees than I normally do and still never had more than a 7 iron into any par 4s, which when I normally play these tees there are couple holes with much longer second shots. Really the only reason I took a couple points off is because there have been a few balls that felt like ok hits but then they go much shorter than expected given the feel of strike. Overall, though as seen in the shot scope highlights below this club has delivered. I was only gaining about 0.6 shots against a 5 handicap for the season, but in the rounds with just the Epic I am gaining 1.5 shots off the tee versus a 5 cap, now that’s an improvement. In that final round at Owls Nest, I actually hit it so well I gained 0.62 shots against a scratch golfer off the tee. Now that is Epic!


 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Miscellaneous - 7 out of 10
From the packaging to the custom order slip the little extras has been great with the Epic. The only nitpick was that the head cover is a bit hard to put on at first, it’s a tight squeeze for sure. Though I will say I love the look of the headcover itself. I even like the simple headcover wrench as well that was included. Only other points lost, as other have mentioned, was for the shaft issues everyone had, I was the lone lucky one to have the right shaft from the start.
Play It or Trade It - 20 out of 20
Well this should come as no surprise to anyone who has followed along or read this far, but I love this club and it will be staying the bag for sure. The driver has done everything I was looking for it to do. It lowered the launch and brought the spin down even with poor swings. With the SZ it was tough to get the spin below 3000 on even good swings, and with the Epic it does that easily and with the right delivery I can get it spinning around 2100 for some serious distance increase. The movable weight has also helped me swing with confidence to hit a slight fade instead of a slice as well. Though I felt this might be the case when I did True Golf Fit this spring the Epic Max LS was the second-best option for me and the first was a SIM. Both are forward CG, low spin heads which made the SZ Extremes days numbered and well they have come to a close. The Epic is a driver that just works for me and that is priceless it might be $530 but I see no need to change it any time soon so it is worth that investment.
Total – 92 out of 100
I came into this year having gained some speed it felt like my driver and the delivery I was making with it were off. So, I decided to see if I might get to test the new driver from Callaway knowing this driver might fit my new swing better. From swing one this driver has delivered. My spin dropped, my launch dropped, and I started hitting it longer that I had been by about 10 to 20 yards. This trend continued on course and on the launch monitors. Each time I came to put the SZ Extreme up against the Epic Max LS the Cobra just didn’t stack up. Then in my last round with the Epic the result was put beyond a shadow of a doubt with distance and consistency that I have not had for a long time in a driver. So, the winner by knockout is the Epic Max LS.

MyGolfSpy- Callaway Epic Max LS Review
Stage 1 Introduction/Initial Impressions
 
I can’t thank MGS enough for the opportunity to review another product and especially one so coveted as the Callaway Epic Max LS! I was fortunate enough to review and test Bridgestone e12’s back in 2019 (or as we know it the Pre-Covid era…) I guess I didn’t mess that review up enough for them to banish me to the cellar of the forum, so again thank you MyGolfSpy for the opportunity.

As for myself, I’m a 37-year-old civil engineer from the beautiful Cumberland Plateau in Tennessee. I live in what is known as the “Golf Capital of Tennessee”. Crossville, TN is a wonderful place to visit, vacation and play golf as there are several courses with great layouts. I have played golf for almost 30 years now and played all sorts of sports growing up. I was fortunate to play baseball in college at Tennessee Tech University and have spent my after-college competitiveness solely on golf. I have probably improved from a 12 handicap in college to my peak last year of 4.2 GHIN. I’m currently carrying a 5.1 but we had a new addition to my family last summer and its be harder to sneak out and get rounds in for the past 12 months.  
 

I am blessed with a wonderful garage practice area complete with a SkyTrak, Bridieball Putting green and other various golf improvement tools. So, while the rounds have been slimmer so far this year, I have practiced more than ever. I really feel confident every time I step up to hit the ball and there is never that feeling uncertainty over the ball.

As for my game, I feel like the strength of my golf game comes from my ability to create speed and distance with the driver and use my wedges to hit greens and give myself opportunities for bridies/pars. Of course, with distance sometimes comes inaccuracy as I often have more “Penalty” strokes in a round than I would prefer due to OB and hazard balls. I’m always looking for increased accuracy and dispersion with the driver and am excited to see how the EPIC Max LS compares to my current Ping G410LST.
In 2018 after reading MGS reviews/tests and taking instruction from a local PING pro I decided to get fitted for the Ping G400. The pro fit me into a PING G400 LST, that eventually cracked and was replaced with a PING G410 Plus that I swapped for a PING G410 LST last fall. I have been super pleased with the change as I’m certainly a golfer that needs to keep his backspin numbers down with the driver. Typically, I carry the driver around 275-280 yards with a swing speed around 110-115. With a strength of my game being my distance, I like to take advantage of it as often as I can on par 5s and be as aggressive as I can reasonably be. My strategy being to hit second shots as close to the green as possible on every par 5.

Over the past year I have changed ball flight with my driver from someone who has always fought a fade/slice to hitting a more draw bias. It has been challenging but getting to practice whenever I want has been key to making slight adjustments to my swing. I added a new set of irons to my bag as well, playing the new Mizuno JPX-921’s.
But enough about myself, y’all didn’t come here to date my golf game, y’all came for the Bombs, activated calves and the shiny new Callaway Driver!
On June 18th this beauty arrived on my doorstep, it was a bittersweet arrival as Callaway sent a stiff shaft and not X stiff flex shaft that I was fit for.

The actually fitting was an adventure all itself, as I was notified I had been selected for this test a few days before a 10 day vacation, so I had to drive an hour during the vacation to the closest PGA Superstore to try out shafts and clubhead lofts. Of course, any reason to visit a PGA Superstore is always a plus for any vacation. 

The fitting was probably one of my worst driving sessions in months but after trying out half a dozen X stiff shafts I settled on the stock MMT 60. The shaft felt extremely similar to the KuroKage shaft that is currently in my Ping G410 driver. After my original driver fitting in 2018, I have come to realize the importance of being fit for the proper shaft, especially for the longest and fastest swinging club in your bag. If I could only be fit for one club in my bag it would certainly be the driver.
The PGA Superstore fitting was also the first opportunity to put the Callaway Epic Max LS against my current gamer. With both clubs having 9 degrees of loft, similar X shafts and weights set to fade bias, my initial impression is this is going to be a very close contest to see which club comes out on top, as the ball speed, backspin and sidespin numbers were all extremely similar.

When I compare the two drivers’ side by side, I will have to say I’m excited that the Epic Max LS seems to have a smaller profile and slightly larger footprint. The shape reminds me more of the G400 LST I had a few years ago. While I have never been a huge fan of the Callaway chevron for alignment, I also didn’t like the Ping turbulators at first either and have grown to love them.

Let’s talk about the “Jailbreak Speed Frame” for a moment, as a structural engineer I’m very familiar with how frames work and where they are supposed to reinforce structural members. I can see a benefit to the frame over the two Jailbreak bars to give added reinforcement to the face structure. I think the claim from Callaway is that the reinforcement helps with off-center hits. It makes sense to me that by reinforcing the bottom and crown of the club you are restricting the twisting forces that would be on the clubface during an off-center hit. What I’m not certain of is how much the impact of a golf ball on the clubface puts stress on the bottom and crown of the club. I would think perhaps with the thin metal of the crown and sole it might have added benefit, but we shall see.

Once the correct shaft arrives (and I’m praying it will be very soon) I’m ready to hit the ground running with testing and comparing the clubs. I’ve got the SkyTrak ready to give me accurate numbers as well as an opportunity to run different tests every day and look closely at ball speed and spin numbers. I’ve also got several upcoming tournaments and practice rounds I’ll be playing in the next few weeks, so I’ll have lots of course experience with the Epic Max LS as well.

It’s going to take a lot to knock the Ping G410 LST out of my bag. I’ve already shared some screen shots from a round on Father’s Day weekend where the ole Ping was already starting to put up a fight. If the Callaway can do as it claims and keep mishits straighter and can tighten my dispersion, then it will certainly win the spot in the bag. I’ve always been a golfer that makes a decision with a club and sticks with it until the club has become technologically obsolete, so having two drivers only one generation apart to choose from is going to be new ground for me. Hopefully in the coming weeks it will become abundantly clear which one works best for me and my journey will help those of you reading make a decision on what’s right for your game.
I can’t emphasis enough how thankful I am that MGS entrusted this test and review to me and I’ll work hard to pay back that trust.
 
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Final Review
Again, I can’t thank MyGolfSpy and Callaway enough for allowing me to test and review such an amazing product. Due to a mistake in the original club building I have been using the Callaway Epic Max LS for exactly one month. In those four weeks, I’ve played in several tournaments, rounds on the course, driving range sessions and hundreds of balls hit on a Skytrak Launch Monitor. I’ve done my best to test every faucet of the driver in comparison to my current gamer, a Ping G410 LST. I hope these scores, testing data and review gives everyone who reads it a firsthand account of the club and if it would fit their game.
Looks (9 out of 10)
The Callaway Epic Max LS really is a sharp looking club. The shape and glossy black crown of the club are appealing to the eye. The round footprint of the club is classic. The face graphics look tough and give you the impression the sweet spot is huge and covers most of the face, which it feels like sometimes when you hit it off-center.

I’m not a huge fan of the color scheme, a darker green might have looked sharp next to the gray, white and black. The chevron alignment aid isn’t my favorite either, but I was not a fan of Ping turbulators when I first began playing them. I did mention in the comments earlier that during testing I kept getting the feeling the chevron alignment aid feels slightly on the heel, and I mean millimeters from center but just not quite in the middle. I’m sure it has to do with the actual center of gravity of the entire club, not just the center of the face or where it sets on the crown of the club. 
Overall, the club is very appealing to look at when set up to the ball and really gives the player confidence to make a swing that would result in some serious bombs. I have some very minor issues with the appearance but it’s a very attractive driver.
Sound and Feel (9 out of 10)
The feeling of impact with the Epic Max LS is firm and quieter than the Ping G410 LST. The best thing I can compare it to is the feeling of a hammer hitting a nail versus a tennis racket hitting tennis ball. The G410 LST certainly gives the feeling like it springs the balls off the club face more but from my testing that doesn’t result in faster ball speed or longer carry distance. I rather enjoy the quieter sound at impact, especially when most of my practice comes indoors. I've tried to capture the sound on the following video, you can hear a clear difference. 
Basic Characteristics (20 out of 20)
 
There isn’t a single category that I can think of where the Epic Max LS underperformed the G410 LST. Both had similar trajectory, launch, workability, ball speed. The clear edge going to the Epic Max LS in carry distance, accuracy, and forgiveness. Balls hit off center had a remarkable ability to carry much further than anticipated and curve less. During testing on my Skytrak launch monitor, the Epic had a significantly lower standard deviation (29.1 to 44.4) of shots hit offline from the average yards offline, meaning the dispersion should be tighter.
 

 
With extensive testing I can say with a degree of certainty that the Epic Max LS is longer, the caveat being that it’s not significantly longer. Most of the testing showed it carried 1-3 yards longer on similar swings. Ball speed was very similar with slight differences. Off-center hits with the Epic Max LS did seem to create more ball speed than off-center hits with the G410 LST. That may lead to credence that the “Speed Frame” does what it says, providing more ball speed and less side spin than other drivers.
 
On-course/LM Performance (30 out of 30)
 
On the course, I didn’t notice huge differences in performance, I felt like poor swings resulted in poor shots and good swings resulted in good shots. I didn’t find myself longer on the course with the Epic Max LS than the Ping G410 LST but if my Skytrak is telling me it carries 1-3 yards longer, I’m not sure that’s something noticeable on the course. It certainly didn’t change the clubs I hit into greens from what I have in previous rounds.
 
Where I do feel like there is room for the Epic to solidify itself in my bag is with accuracy, shot dispersion and mishits. The G410 LST has never provided the consistency and accuracy I felt like I was getting with my G400 LST. While I haven’t noticed a huge improvement on the course, I have noticed differences on my Skytrak. Ball hits off-center, usually on the toe, come off hot and straight as if they had been squared up. There were at least half a dozen balls I hit that I would assume would carry short and left but instead just kept going with balls speeds over 170 mph and landing very close to where I wanted them. The following screenshots were all on center-toe hits.  
 

 
The requirement I put on the Epic Max LS to make it into my bag was that it would tighten my shot dispersion and give me more accuracy off the tee. One of the glaring weakness is my game is the penalty shots my driver costs me each round in hazards or OB. While my distance helps making up some of those shots in a typical round if I can eliminate one or two OB balls each round that would be Epic.
 
Miscellaneous (4 out of 10)
 
There are a few little things that I felt like could have gone better with this test and the Epic Max LS. The most frustrating would have to be a mistake in shipment. Callaway originally sent a stiff shaft instead of the extra stiff shaft I needed for the test. I wasn’t the only tester in which this happened to but for whatever reason I had to wait nearly 5 weeks to receive the replacement shaft that I needed to conduct the test. I can’t complain too much as Callaway did eventually remedy the issue. It just limited the amount of time I was able to test the product properly. Another small issue would have to be the headcover was extremely tight to take on and off the club, which is not a big deal as I've got a sweet white Mizuno headcover I use for my driver. 
 
Play it or Trade it (20 out of 20)
 
Let’s see what club will be donning my white Mizuno head cover drum roll please….
 

 
 
 
Well, if you’ve been reading along that was anticlimactic. This session about a week ago on my Skytrak is what really cemented it in the bag. 
 

 
I will be certainly putting the Epic Max LS into my bag. It was slightly longer than my current driver and provided improved accuracy with both center and off-center hits. I would however probably not go out and buy one if I had a driver one to two generations old. While I feel like it beat my G410 LST in accuracy, it constantly reminded me of the accuracy with my G400 LST and didn’t seem so drastic I would feel the need to purchase one. Of course, I’m a golfer that believes it’s the Indian and not the arrow when it comes to equipment.
 
The Epic Max LS is designed for golfers that create a lot of backspin on the tee and are looking to lower those numbers to maximize their distance and accuracy. Its certainly top notch for this generation of equipment. If you are someone who needs lower spin off the tee and want to replace a driver older than 3 years I would certainly recommend purchasing the Epic Max LS.
 
If I apply these same metrics for my Ping G410 it would score in the mid to upper 80’s due to how much I like that club. In fact, a part of me wanted it to out preform the Epic Max LS for various reasons but I can’t overlook the improvements that I feel the Epic Max LS provides. Its going in my bag and not likely to come out any time soon.
 
Final Score: 92 of 100
 
Again, Thanks MGS for entrusting this test to me and Callaway for providing the equipment for an unbias testing platform. 
 

 

EDEL E.A.S. #4
The Official MyGolfSpy Forum Review by
Sluggo42
 
Looks (9 out of 10 points)

 
 I have always loved the “Fang” shape/style on a putter. The only other “fang” I ever owned was the good old Tommy Armor TA3, which coincidently also won “most wanted” mallet style putter a few times. That’s a great little putter, which i got for $79 from Dicks sporting goods a few years ago. 
The Edel E.A.S #4 is not a putter that jumps off the page when looking at it, but rather draws you in with the simplicity of its general unassuming presence.

The round grip is so simple and basic, yet it’s one of the secrets to its accuracy.

The hexagon dimpled face, and the alignment plate are really the only differentiating aspects from a really basic fang style putter.

I remember reading different articles when I was researching these putters, and I recall a few people having major problems with the alignment plates looks. And then claiming they would never use a putter with such an ugly plate.

 
It makes me laugh at how people can be so judgmental about something so trivial, when actually they might be the person who could really benefit from the system. Look at the pictures we are all posting and if you find the looks to be so bad that you wouldn’t use it, and then please tell me why in the comments section.
It’s clean and simple really, as seems to be the case with most of the classic clubs, like some good old Mizuno blades, right? The putter cover is a thing of beauty though, and the soft black rabbit fur on the inside is luxurious. (no real animals were harmed, and its not real rabbit fur….c’mon man!)
 
 
Sound & Feel (10 out of 10 points)
From the very first putt to the last putt I’ve taken since taking possession of “Adele”, this has been the best feeling, as well as an exceptionally good sounding as any putter that’s ever been in my bag. Its similar, yet slightly softer than may Evnroll, but has a very similar sound. It’s a solid knock that isn’t hollow or mushy in any way. Kind of how a forged blade feels on a flush strike, vs. a hollow filled club. It just tells you it was a clean strike.
 




Basic Characteristics (20 out of 20 points)
I spent an hour and a half on the practice green while getting fitted, so I had numerous putts as I was getting used to its feel and distance attributes. By the time my fitting was done I had already bonded to the club in an almost intimate way. 
My aim is true -  (Elvis Costello, 1977)
For once in my life with a putter, this is true. The ball actually goes where I aim. Point and shoot actually works now. 
Distance control now actually means something as I am rarely more then a few feet away for my second putt, the counter balancing in the grip creates this ability.
 
I will use this putter from the fringe almost always, unless I have sprinkler heads in my way. Its much more consistent than chipping for me.
 
On-Course Performance (30 out of 30 points)
This is where this putter shines. I wasn’t ever the greatest putter, and part of the fitting process showed at least one reason why. With the use of the reflective mirror on the putter face, and the laser pointer, it showed that I wasn’t seeing the proper aim to the cup. From about six feet, my aim was a foot off, again and again. Then, the same thing happened when I first started aiming with the Edel putter. Kevin, using a simple magic marker, kept changing the alignment marks until suddenly I was aiming straight at the hole, again and again. I guess everyones brain sees things slightly differently, so just one mark doesn’t necessarily work for everyone. 
So every round I was always missing many putts that I thought I should have been making, or at least be closer. 
I was always in that 34-36 putts per round. I used to laugh to myself when I would read fellow spies talking about sub 30 putt rounds and I always secretly thought they were full of it. 
And I would also like to stress that “putts per round” can be a very misleading stat, as there are so many variables involved with that stat..   Buuuttttt….
Then I suddenly started having sub-30 putt rounds, and I’m talking 26-27 putt rounds, and was scoring well too. But even if I had a round in the 80’s I was still way under 36 putts. I started making some of the 6-8 footers that were a guaranteed miss before. 
 As always, the most difficult putt is the pressure putt. In fact, they came up with a name for it, they call it the yips. Most everyone has experienced the feeling. A 4 footer to win the day, and you pull it left. Dad gummit! It happens in even the best of families. The best cure is being absolutely sure your put will go by simply trusting your aim to be true and letting it happen. 
This putter will give you that trust, and the more putts you make, the more you trust in it. It’s a win-win. I’ve made more pressure putts with Adele, than I ever made with my previous putters. And that is because, I was never really sure of my aim before. Now I am much more sure of my aim, and that’s the first half of the equation. Now I need to just make a pure stroke, and it’s in. If I mess that up its on me, and not the putter.
The final analysis is that I am indeed making more putts. 
 
I never really knew much about the Edel company, and always thought of them as more of a boutique company that made a higher quality club. The E.A.S. putter has done nothing but reinforce this thought. Edel make good stuff, period
It seems these days that there is always some way to improve something with next years model right? But sometimes they get it right and there isn’t really any reason to change. It is my opinion that the E.A.S #4 is correct right now. Don’t change a thing, and just keep making putts.
What I love about this putter is in 3 areas. 
 
1. the round grip - It forces me to really look at the face and alignment plate to get the correct aim
2. the alignment plate - thru trial and error, its the one that allows MY brain to aim correctly
3. the counter balanced grip – It has been perfectly balanced to allow MY brain to choose how far I’m going to hit the ball. 
I think the really cool deal with this putter is that its structured to allow your brain to do the putt programming subconsciously, and it turns the putt into a simple underhanded toss where you don’t have to really think about it, you just “feel” it.
 
Miscellaneous (9 out of 10 points)
Everything about this putter is simple and sweet. From the gorgeous classic head shape to the counter balanced round grip. Heck, even the head cover is a beautiful stitched leather, with a strong magnet to keep it closed.

 

It’s also got a soft furry insides that snuggles the head with its warm hug. The actual fitting process with my fitter “Kevin” was the chord that made this putter into a song. That is what makes this putter, “the” putter.




Play it or Trade it? (20 out of 20 points)
There is absolutely no doubt, this putter will be in my bag till the day they pry it from my cold dead hands, ha-ha. One of the tightest choking points in golf is on the putting green, right? Having the clarity of mind that you know you can put down the roll you want, helps remove the sinister slice of self-doubt. In fact, what happens is that you actually start thinking you can make any putt, and you actually get bothered when you don’t 
I think this flat-stick benefits everyone who plays it, but in my mind, the deathly serious player is the guy this putter is tailor made for. It is made for the guy who has money on every stroke. It is made for the guy who understands the absolute need for perfect accuracy under pressure. This is the guy who doesn’t blink at a larger price tag, because he understands this is the one stick that gets hit more than every other stick in his bag. This is the putter that actually will shave a stroke or two off an already low index.



Conclusion
In conclusion, I couldn’t be any happier with a putter. I almost loved my Tommy Armor TA3, and I really liked my Evnroll ER3, but “Adele” completes me. It’s as close to an extension of my brain to my hand, like a simple underhanded toss can get. I see it, and the putter rolls it. Unfortunately my brain doesn’t always see correctly, but that’s not the putters fault. If I read it right, the putt has a very realistic chance of falling into the cup. The more I play, it seems the better my putting gets.
Sure the price tag is a bit shocking at first glance, but if you really think about it and what you get for your money, its not that bad.
Almost all the Scotty Camerons, and Evnrolls are over $300 right? Usually more I might add. Then, if you add in a custom fitting, that’s going to add an additional $150, so right there you’re at $450.
Now, can you honestly tell me that the driver in your bag didn’t cost a similar number? And do you hit your driver 30 times a round? Because you hit your putter that many time, give or take a few. And yes, we all know a 3” putt is equal to a 280 yard drive. Not as thrilling for sure, but the scorecard doesn’t know the difference.
If you are really serious about the game and would like a real chance at shaving a few strokes off the index, I think the Edel EAS system is a real way to achieve results, that doesn’t require a total relearning of how to swing a club. You will just aim better, and have a closer second putt. And fewer 3-putts will certainly result in lower scores right? 
 
FINAL SCORE  98 out of 100
This putter is as close to perfect as it gets. The reason a putter was invented was to hit the little ball into the hole. In order to do that you need to be able to aim it correctly, and then have the correct speed to make it all come together.
Your brain is the computer that programs the event and the Edel EAS putter is the tool that completes the process. If you are serious about the game, you owe yourself to give them a look.
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Some new stuff!
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The weight kit arrived!

It cost me $75, so I’m really hoping for some results. Today’s round was hot and dry, not my normal dewy morning with wet greens. They were tight and fast and I was going long. Tomorrow I’m expecting a similar day, so I’ll install a heavier weight that’s supposed to slow my stroke down. They are sized at 5, 10, 15, 20, 25 grams.


The stock one is 15 grams. It’s pretty interesting how much weight difference there really is between the 5 and the 25g weights.
they did come in a nice little zippered case that will stow easily in your bag, so you’re always ready for adjustments depending on what the practice green tells you before you’re round.


Its got a nifty little wrench included in the kit, so a quick weight change should be a snap. 

 

I’ll post some  thoughts after tomorrow’s round…
 
UPDATE….
so last week I played at a track with way faster greens, so I figured what a good time to try a heavier weight. So I pulled the 15g, and screwed in the 25g nugget. I didn’t really expect to notice much as c’mon, whats 10g right?
well lemme tell you! It felt significantly heavier. I honestly couldn’t believe it. So I figured what the heck, let’s go up to the practice green and see what it does. The first few rolls were tentative so I was a bit short, expecting the giant hammer of Thor to crush the ball. So then I just let it flow and it suddenly felt superb. I didn’t shoot lights out or anything, but my distance was excellent. 
 
so then I forgot all about it until this mornings round, which was chilly with a heavy dew on the greens. I putted ok, but was mad that I didn’t remember to change out the weight for a light one, as this is how they’re supposed to work. But, I’ll remember this tomorrow morning and try going light. It will be interesting to see how it works…
more to follow…
 
 

Greetings Spies.  My name is Bill and I reside in southwest Montana. I'm ecstatic and honored to have been selected among the thousands of who applied to test the latest Evnroll series putters.  A HUGE THANK YOU to the folks at Evnroll and MyGolfSpy for providing this the numerous other product tests!!  I find these product reviews to be very informative and meaningful.  Marketing claims are "put to the test" by fellow amateur players with no strings attached.  I have used these reviews as part of my recent equipment changes and will do my best to provide you all with a meaningful review of the Evnroll ER5v putter.


A little about me.  I was introduced to the game by my Dad at 5 years old growing up in Ft. Lauderdale, FL and played on the JGA for a few years before the family relocated to Sacramento, CA. I have always played the game but, like so many, went through periods where I played quite a bit and then not as often.  For a brief time, I had a 9 handicap which is my personal best. After 30 years working in aerospace, I retired early and my wife and I moved away from soggy and very busy Puget Sound to the rural life in MT.  We live here until the snow fly's (I use porch snow shoveling events as my indicator 🙂), and then we head south to AZ for winter.  This affords me lots more golf and fly fishing time when I'm not working around the mini ranch with River, our yellow lab.



I really love the game and work at getting better at it.  That said, having gone through a period in my early 20's where I went through a swing change, got completely frustrated, and was no longer enjoying just playing, I now try not to take things too seriously.  I'm currently at a 12 handicap and while I really want to once again break 10 simply refuse to allow the journey to become a millstone.  
Overall, my putting has been a pretty average part of my game - neither a major impediment or advantage.  I have been wielding a PING B61 since 1987 when I used the $100 gift certificate from a company tournament to purchase it from the pro shop.  That "fitting" was all of about 15 minutes of me picking through and rolling stuff of the rack and, though I occasionally tested other putters over the years, none ever proved to be worth the investment.  For those who have come to know me through the forum, I tend to be a bit data driven, fuss the details, and labor over equipment decisions 😄.
As part of my bag fitting this past winter at TrueSpec Scottsdale, I had a "proper" putter fitting.  On the short list of performers was the Evnroll ER5.  I held off on procuring one as I was also fitted for and purchased a set of Srixon ZX5's with composite shafts.  So imagine my excitement when I saw the "Evnroll Putter Testers Wanted" announcement 😲.... and then the "Testers Selected" announcement.

First Impressions
To be quite honest, I've always had a rather not so enamored reaction to the large MOI, mallet and semi mallet design putters.  Like the move from my McGregor persimmon driver to my first Great Big Bertha to my current G410, the traditionalist in me has me feeling dubious and the suspicious part of me thinking I'm just falling for slick, without substance, marketing.  But, I watch a lot of tour golf and it's quite clear that these newer design/technology flat sticks are heavily favored.
The ER5v is a mallet design but of a smaller overall size envelope.  It is subtle as compared to a number of the more wild looking design profiles on the market.  To my eye, that is a positive.  I chose their "midsize pistol grip" as it is similar to the stock PING grip I've been using for so long.  It looks and feels very nice and, although a bit larger, should be an easy adjustment.


The quality of machining is top shelf and I really like the way it looks at set-up position.  The two alignment dots on the ridge and alignment line are also similar to my B61 and that too should help make the change pretty seamless.

As for the head cover, WOW, a thing of beauty and something brand new for me.  I have never had a head cover for a putter.  These are very well made, fit like a glove, and the magnetic latch is solid. I requested a black cover simply because I was afraid of a white one getting soiled. But now having it in hand, I'm happy they sent the white one.

I spent about 2 hours this morning on the practice green just getting the feel of the putter before delving into comparative testing. My initial impression is that it feels quite different than my PING, slightly heavier, and definitely more solid on contact.  The B61 is 351g and the ER5V 380g.  One would not think 29g difference would be that perceptible but is most definitely is.  
Some of you may know that I just recently changed to a left hand low grip and it has been proving very beneficial - particularly on putts 5 feet and closer.  I felt like I was not losing any gains from those distances.  Lags from 30 feet took a little more time to dial in but, by the end of the session, felt comparable to my PING.  
 

PXL_20210717_180656423.20210717_120740.mp4 So now onto the "meat and potatoes" that is the biggest aspect of Evnroll putters... "Sweet Face Technology". Guerin Rife's patented, novel design of variable spaced face grooves aimed at zero dispersion. The key being that the entire putter face is the "sweet spot" as opposed to the competition having a small, centered sweet spot. Like the other testers, I'm very intrigued by the design and claims, and want to put this to the test.


I'm planning to use the current MGS Putter Testing protocol as part of my review https://mygolfspy.com/how-we-test-putters/, but with some slight modifications.  I'll share the details of that in upcoming posts.  If you have any ideas about testing or questions about the putter, please let me know.
This is going to be a fun test and I sure hope many of you will follow along as the four of us put these latest Evnroll putters to the test. 


 
 

 
Evnroll ER5v / Stage Two Review / by FIXYURDIVOT
This has been a really fun review to do and I once again want to say Thank You to the folks at Evnroll and My Golf Spy for the opportunity!  Hopefully I have sufficiently done my part in providing a thorough review and in adding meaningful content to the ever growing library of product tests/reviews.  I can say first hand that these reviews have become my "go to" source when wanting to get the scoop on new and old gear.  Having candid feedback and scoring from peers is way more valuable to me than most all other sources.  So here goes... lets add yet another one to the MGS vault 👍.

Putters are truly, as so many state, such a personal and unique club within our bags.  They come in a seemingly endless mix of designs - from the completely esoteric to the mundane. They are the single most used arrow in the quiver and responsible for roughly 35% of most average amateur scores.  
Personally, it is a club I payed very little attention too over my 55 years of play and, although I occasionally grabbed one in a pro shop to test out, never felt any would offer an advantage to my 30+ years in the bag PING B61.  Hey, I'm used to it, and if I want to get better at putting, it will be 90% technique and 10% putter... or so I thought.
As it happened, I recently committed to a Left Hand Low grip while playing with some fellow spies at this years PNW Spy Meet-up.  I had briefly tried using this a couple years earlier but it felt weird and I gave up on it. This time I was able to get past the awkward stage and get to where it feels "normal", and I'm seeing some improvement.  Most importantly being my starting line and secondary make percentage on short putts.  So, the timing of this test opportunity, combined with the fact that the ER5v ended up the putter of choice from my True Spec fitting was simply awesome!
If you've been following my Stage One and the test thread discussions, you'll know that I had two key tests I wanted to complete as part of the performance aspect of the ER5v putter:
Strokes Gained Test Validate "Sweet Face/Zero Dispersion" Claim The Strokes Gained Test was a slightly modified version of MGS's Putter Testing Method. Where they test SG between various testers, I simply compared my B61 to the ER5v.  I also revised how putts were made from the 5, 10, and 20 foot distances.  Instead of repeating a series of putts from one location, I arranged a wagon-wheel spoke pattern around the hole.

The test consisted of (5) putts around hole, from all three distances, (5) times - for a total of 75 putts.  Each putt not holed was putted out and total strokes counted for each ball rolled.  This data was entered into a spreadsheet and, using the provided calculations, yielded the following results.

The Validate "Sweet Face/Zero Dispersion" claim consisted of trying to replicate robot putter test results with heel, center, and toe strikes.  The basis of Evnroll's "zero dispersion" is that the milled groove pattern is of such design that, regardless of whether you contact the putter face, balls struck in the same manner (face path and force) will rollout to the same distance.  Hey, that is some heady stuff right there - a very bold claim. I don't know about you, but a putter that keeps my off center hits from diverging away from the target is definitely of interest.

To test this, I putted balls from a single spot at a distance of 20 feet. My gut told me the effect (if there indeed was one) would be easier to see on long putts. I recorded how putts ended up; short, long, left and right of the hole. I added line marks on the top rail for the heel and toe hits.  These were the results of that testing.

Testing Summary
Clearly the Strokes Gained test indicates improved performance over the B61.  In particular is the gain on the 5 foot putts.  A potential of nearly 1.7 stroke per round would be very welcomed.  With all other aspects of my game kept in current form, this alone might finally get me to my 10 handicap goal!  To really validate this, one or two more repetitions of the 75 putt test should be done... but I like what I see thus far.  If you really want to compare some putters against your "Billy Baroo", I highly recommend using this SG analysis.
As for the "Sweet Face/No Dispersion test, it was much less revealing.  I think it is simply too difficult to repeatedly control face path and impact force to the degree necessary to validate rollout distance and dispersion.  I used the B61 as a comparison point since it has no grooves at all. I tested both in the house on short/dense pile carpet and on the practice green.  Overall, I could make a weak case for the ER5v offering better dispersion and more consistent rollout. I will say that toe hits on the ER5v did seem to move back from right to left - the reasons for this are discussed in an independent lab, robot putt test using the ER1.  Regrettably, I'm going to have to rely on this labs and Guerin Rife's robot putting tests for this claim... but I do believe there is benefit.

PXL_20210806_183310324.mp4 Scoring
Looks (8/10)
The ER5v is, IMO, an eye grabber.  It strikes a very good balance of bling and subtlety. The mallet style head has the tell-tale wings which are inherent of high MOI putters but it has a streamline look and far from the Marvel comics, exotic winged designs some have within its design group. The quality of machining is top shelf and the distinctive red Evnroll logo on the face looks perfect.  The black color/red end cap midsize pistol grip I chose is of very good quality and has a slightly soft feel.  Having tried several of the SuperStroke type grips, I find this a nice compromise to those and the stock PING pistol grip - definitely larger but no overly so. 
The headcover is very nice looking, well made, and fits perfect.  It's hidden magnet closure makes opening and closing easy.  Not ever having had a putter headcover, I feel like "I've arrived" 😆.

My only reduction in score comes from the back portion alignment mark.  First that the paint fill is a wee bit inconsistent, and second, that it is black color.  The top rail has no line but rather two unfilled/painted dots.  I think these would be much more helpful if filled with white paint and perhaps allowing the customer to choose the alignment mark paint fill color (black, white or ??).  To be fair, Evnroll's on-line order form does allow upcharge addition of a top rail align mark, no marks top or back, and color fill options. But they should, IMO, offer choice of fill or no fill and color, on the stock dots and hatch section line, as the no upcharge options.

Sound & Feel (10/10)
I would describe the sound of the ER5v as a moderate tick - definitely not ringy or loud.  Unfortunately I have very little experience with other putters to compare it too and to be fair, club sound is not an overly important factor to me.  I don't notice any difference when hitting across various places on the face - center strikes, toe and heel strikes sound the same.  My apologies but this is one characteristic I'm not able to offer much help with. Here is a recording of what it sounds like.

PXL_20210728_193211104.mp4 As for feel, that is much more important to me and I would describe this putter as solid and authoritative. The 380g head weight is quite a change from the B61 (351g) but I do like that added heft. Strikes feel very solid and center strikes feel different than extreme toe and heel strikes.  This is a nice attribute, especially when practicing as you get (or at least I do) a different feel in my hands.
Basic Characteristics (17/20)
I have been able to play 5 rounds and spend somewhere on the order of 6 hours on practice greens using/testing the putter.  I am finding it a bit more accurate than my current gamer and the aforementioned SG analysis confirms this. Distance control is good and it seemed I was able to very quickly adjust to it.  I feel much more confident rolling short range putts with the ER5v.  Perhaps it's the overall size envelope that evokes sense of confidence - ala the 460cc driver? The longer backend and alignment stripe seems to fit my sightline well and it's similar to my current putter.
This being a high MOI design putter, it is intended to help with face path stability and reduced twisting on off center strikes.  My True Spec fitting found this mallet and a semi-mallet style as my best fit and, based on the limited time I've used the ER5v, I feel it performs as intended.  
I find the putter to be very playable from all green slope conditions.  I recall my True Spec fitter saying my B61's loft was 5 degrees and this putter is 2 degrees (which he said is the new normal) and that I might find rolls through taller grass requiring a bit more force. A recent round had "greenskeeper woke up on the wrong side of the bed pin placements" and I'm not sure there was a flat lie within 10' of the hole on most greens but I putted just fine. As for apron and fringe rolls, the putter is adept at those as well.  I holed one from the apron and banged another off the pin from the fringe. 
On-Course Performance (26/30)
Pretty much straight away, I found a good groove with the ER5v. I thought it would take longer to adjust to such a big shift in size envelope and weight, but it did not.  Now I will say a good portion of my putting confidence has come from the LHL grip change, but rolling this putter seems to have added even more confidence.  Total putts in the 5 rounds I've played the putter have been 34, 32, 30, 34, 31.  This is pretty consistent with my numbers playing my gamer but one key difference is that I'm getting closer to and past the hole a bit more often.  This is resulting in fewer knee-knockers which the SG numbers show is my largest gain.  
Miscellaneous (10/10)
For many this may be of little importance but I love putter designs that allow you to scoop up the ball. The B61 is among the best I've ever seen/tried doing this and, having become so used to using this for over 3 decades, it's a feature I want.  At True Spec, I attempted this several times and had balls rolling every which way across the studio.  The rear "hatched out" potion of the putter certainly looks capable of this feat but I walked away from that fitting not thinking it was likely.
Much to my surprise however is that, with a little practice, the ER5v does do a pretty good job of scooping up balls.  Still not as efficient as the PING but I'm getting the hang of it and, with a little practice, should have it mastered.

PXL_20210721_211135338.mp4 One thing we have not talked about, that is a particularly cool feature of the "v" models, is the ability to swap out shafts. While the vast majority of us probably won't do so, this affords a nice modular aspect to the design.  With putter fittings becoming more common, it could prove beneficial whereby the head is optimal but a different shaft might be needed.  Much like drivers and woods, we are finding the ability to swap shafts very useful... kudos to Evnroll for adding this capability to their putters!
Play It or Trade It? (20/20)
What, not already obvious? 😆  Umm, yea, this putter is definitely staying in the bag. Simply based on the strokes gained test alone, my gut tells me it's conservatively worth a stroke/round.  For whatever reason, I feel more confident with it - particularly at close range where I tend to give away too many strokes.  Any club change takes a little time to adjust to its nuisances and I'm quite certain my performance with this putter will only improve with time.  

Conclusion
The ER5v and I just flat out "hit it off". Definitely a drastic change in design and weight from my gamer but it feels very natural in my hands - making the LHL feel more normal if that makes any sense. These putters are of top shelf quality and packed with GI technology.  While I couldn't definitively validate the "Sweet Face/No Dispersion" claims, we have seen independent tests that show it's definitely not all marketing hype.  One can argue "low vs. no dispersion" is more appropriate but regardless it does what it is designed to do - help us putt better.
Bottom line is that, if you struggle with dispersion from off center strikes and resultant inconsistent rollout distances, Guerin Rife's novel groove design will help with that.
I would not hesitate to recommend anyone looking to make a putter change/upgrade to include Evnroll among your list of candidates!
Thank You again to Evnroll and MGS for this amazing opportunity!
Final Score (91/100)

Hi Everyone.  First of all, a huge thank you to Evnroll and MyGolfSpy for the testing opportunity.  This forum is by far my favorite on line.
A little background:  I'm 64 years old and started playing golf in my mid 30's.  Until the last 2 or 3 years, my handicap stayed in the 12 to 14 range.  It is now around 9 and dropping.  In case you're wondering, retirement helps your scores😉 I play 2 or 3 times a week, weather allowing.  I have never been a big hitter and getting older hasn't helped, but the modern golf ball and long shafted, oversize drivers have helped me maintain most of the distance I had in my 30's.  My bag currently consists of a Ping G425 driver, Taylormade HL 3 wood, Callaway Heavenwood, Cobra 8 wood and PXG original generation 0211 irons.  My current flat stick is a Ping Sigma2 Anser (more on that later). I have about 8 sand wedges and lob wedges I rotate for no good reason, but chipping and pitching have historically been a strength of my game. From the beginning, my putting has been a weakness of my game.  Take a peek at my avatar.  When I first started playing, I used a Wilson 8800 putter thanks to my admiration of Ben Crenshaw's stroke.  Sadly, my putting stroke wasn't nearly good enough for that Wilson putter.  I think it had the sweet spot the size of a gnat's backside.  I also had a lot of arc in my stroke that led to inconsistency. 
After a few years of trying a lot of putters, I picked up a semi-mallet Odyssey putter that worked much better for me.  It also had a larger grip, which I think lessened the arc in my swing.  I still wasn't what I would call a good putter.  After a few years, I went to a Ping Craze E, which was a huge mallet.  With an oversize grip, it worked pretty well but, naturally, it went sour after a while.  Then came a Taylormade Spider and then a Happy mallet. 
About a year and a half ago, I borrowed an old Ping Pengyo putter from a buddy.  He is very tall and the putter was 36 inches with a huge grip.  Suddenly, I became a good putter!  My stroke smoothed out and my speed control improved dramatically.  After 6 months of putter bliss, the buddy moved out of state and took the putter with him.  Aarrrgh!  No amount of begging and no amount of money would convince him to let me keep the putter. 
Enter the Ping Sigma 2.  I ordered it at 36" with an oversize grip.  It works pretty well, but not as well as the old Pengya.  I am hoping that the Evnroll will have some of the mojo of that old Ping.
A couple of shots of the putter.  As you can see, it's a variation on the classic Ping/Scotty Cameron blade shape.  Everything about the putter exudes quality.  The finish is top notch and the head cover is a magnetic model that won't fall off.

I went to the putting green yesterday to give it a whirl.  The weight is lighter than my Ping, despite being over length.  On center strikes, it has a nice soft feel and sound.  When hit on the heel or toe, it sounds and feels "clang-y".  I did notice that speed didn't suffer much on off center strikes.
 



 
At the putting green I was pushing a lot of putts.  I was hoping I would be able to correct that for this morning's round.  Unfortunately, that wasn't the case.  I had to really concentrate on releasing the putter through impact or the ball went right.  At the moment, I don't know if the problem is alignment or something else.  I use an alignment mark on my ball and set the putter perpendicular to that, but it is certainly possible my stance was closed and I didn't realize it.  I'll go back to the putting green Monday and see if I can work out the problem.  Even though I struggled with the line this morning, the speed control was good and I took 28 official putts, plus 3 from the fringe.
I'll post more results and photos after the putting session Monday.
MONDAY'S RESULTS:
After a long session at the putting green, I have to say this putter is the bee's knees, the cat's meow, the real stuff.  Obviously, the earlier problem pushing putts was user error.  Really, was there ever any doubt?  I started with some short, straight putts and then moved to longer putts and breaking putts.  Below is a pic of the result of 3 putts from 12 feet:
 
 
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I stupidly took one of the balls out of the cup before thinking to take the pic.  2 out of 3 from 12 feet and almost perfect speed on the miss.
Here's a pic of 3 putts from 60 feet:

The worst putt here was 4 feet away and that was the one that got past the hole where the green slopes down to the edge. 
We are having a dangerous heat wave here but I plan to get in a round in the next few days using my Shot Scope V3 to track my putting stats. 
I have mentioned the grip on this putter only in passing.  It is a Gravity grip.  I don't think you would say it is a counter balanced grip but it is a similar idea.  There is a metal bar inside the grip on the underside that runs the length of the grip.  Evnroll claims that it makes it harder for the player to rotate the face away from square.  At the putting green, I was starting almost everything on the line I had picked, so maybe there is something to it.
THE LATEST 18:
I played this morning at a course I play maybe 8 times a year.  The putter was working extremely well.  The distance control was just about perfect on every putt.  I started the putts on the lines I picked on every putt but one and that one was a 20 footer that missed the hole by 4 inches on the left after a pull.  I had 29 putts, but that doesn't tell the whole story.  I didn't hit anything close all day and had 7 one putts and no 3 putts.  If this keeps up I'll be buried with this putter. 
Below is a quick video of one of the most important performance aspects of a putter:
IMG_1805.MOV
And I would like to point out that was off a down slope.  Very handy for swiping up the ball after you've shot yourself out of the hole!
 
Now for the ratings:
Looks:  5 Stars  Obviously, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  I've decided to score this category based on the quality of construction and finish.  Both are top notch.  The putter has a quality look and the finish is impeccable. 
Sound & Feel:  5 Stars  The putter really shines in this category.  The ball feels and sounds just a tiny bit soft coming off the face, but, at the same time, very solid.  If you put a terrible stroke on the ball, then you will get a little bit of a clanky feel and sound, but you have to miss the sweet spot by a lot for that to happen.
Basic Characteristics:  5 Stars  Evnroll gives you a choice of hosel styles with each head, allowing you to pick one that fits your eye and stroke.  I ordered one of the choices to fit well with a slight arc and it worked beautifully for me.  They have options for those with a straight back through stroke and those with a lot of arc in the stroke.  I think this is a huge plus.  It helped me start most putts on the line I had chosen. 
On-course Performance:  5 Stars  Using this putter, my ability to hit my line and my speed control have improved dramatically.  Evnroll makes a big deal of their "Sweet Face Technology."  Well, they should.  It flat out works.
Miscellaneous:  4 Stars  I'm dinging them one star here because the packaging wasn't the best I've seen.  There was no padding to protect the putter from shipping company gorillas.
Play it or Trade it:  5 Stars  This putter is firmly ensconced in my bag.  At this point, any other club in my bag is replaceable.  Not the Evnroll.
 
 

Evnroll ER5v Introduction
 Howdy! I am Corbin Jeffs from College Station, Texas, and I will be getting married in September this year.

I really appreciate Mygolfspy and Evnroll for giving me the opportunity to test the ER5v. For the last 2 years, I have managed a Commercial Driving Academy, and recently transitioned doing it for the local college. I started playing golf almost 10 years ago, and started at the same course I am now back as a member at, The Golf Club at Texas A&M. I served in the US Army, and now I volunteer to help coach the Texas A&M Corps of Cadets (future Military Officers) golf team. Although I coach more than I play, I really enjoy helping young students with the challenges of golf and as they are maturing into young adults. I have started working on my game again, my goal was to get below a 5 handicap by the end of 2021 and I have been as low as 6.6, so let’s see if this putter and the work I am going to put in on the practice green will get me there.
 
I came to Mygolfspy because of these forum reviews, mainly the Superspeed reviews, and because of the success the testers had I bought the set. It transformed my game and I improved so much. So I always will test in hopes others can make informed decisions to improve their game, as I have made in my own. In my bag, I recently added the Cobra Radspeed Driver because of the massive distance gains helping lower my spin. I am averaging over 20 yards longer over the Ping G410 LST. I have the Sim Max 3 wood, which I use primarily off the tee. The biggest change to my bag is I replaced my 3 and 4 irons with the TSi2 18* and Ping G410 22* hybrids, and I am so much more confident hitting greens from a long ways away. I have the 639 CB/MB combo set from Sub70, and they are probably what gets noticed the most in my bag. My Mizuno T20 wedges have been really solid for me this year. The final slot has been the putter I have the most confidence in that I have ever used so far, the Odyssey 2 Ball Ten S with Triple Track, so this should be a great head to head battle.

Driving and putting are the two strengths of my game, so when I was announced with this opportunity I was excited. I have always been drawn to blade style putters, but a year ago when I went through a putter fitting it was suggested I use a mallet, and I have not gone back to a blade since that day. I have used Scotty Cameron, Ping, Taylormade, and Evnroll.

Putting stroke.mp4 I have a slower tempo, with a slight arc to my stroke. I like to run my putts in with some speed on the short ones, but on longer putts I tend to leave short. My miss is typically a pull to the left. Since using the Odyssey 2 Ball, I am confident in short and mid-range putts, and honestly probably make more than I should according to my buddy. My lag putting cannot be blamed on the putter, and I have improved, but some added confidence in the longer putts would be amazing.
My first impression of the ER5v, is everything I hoped it would be, and more. I have always like this style of head shape, and but the way Evnroll cuts away from the topline into the hatchback/ fang area really frames it well at address. The nearest store that carries Evnroll for me is 90 miles, and when selected I drove there to test the different hosels, could not test it with the ER5v, because those do not stay in stock very long. For me it was between the short slant and short plumber, and I went with the short plumber’s neck. I really liked the way it sat at address, and I was more comfortable with it in my stroke. They had a perfect practice mat at the store and I was rolling putts in with ease with the short plumber’s neck. I was torn on what grip I was going to choose, and ultimately I went with the Gravity Grip. It is much bigger than what I am used to, but I did like how I felt squarer while trying the different styles. I ended up choosing the ER5v, 35 inch Short Plumber with the Gravity Grip. 




One thing Evnroll claims that I am really looking forward to testing head to head is the Sweet Face Technology. I have had the Evnroll ER2 in the bag and loved it. I am no robot, but I will do my best to test the groove technology, the 2 dot system on breaking putts, and test to the best of my ability on the distance control on off centered putts. I am also, going to put it head to head against my Odyssey 2 Ball Ten S Triple Track on distances of 5, 10, and 20 feet and keep track of my make percentages and 3 putts from those distances. I will also, using my Puttout Gates, and I have a yard stick and see which one will stay on line better. To earn a spot in my bag will be tough over the 2 Ball Ten, it has been really good for me. Although, if the ER5v can limit my 3 putts, and if it can somehow find a way to hole more putts I will gladly put it in the bag. If you have any other requests of what you would like to see tested just let me know. I am really looking forward to this test! 
 
STAGE TWO- EVNROLL V- SERIES PUTTER
OFFICIAL REVIEW BY CJEFFS12
 
Intro-
Let me start off by saying this was by far the most fun and work I have done in a review so far.  I spent a lot of hot, sweaty humid days down here in Texas, on the Golf Club at Texas A&M’s practice greens.  With that said I am so appreciative of this opportunity to have tested the Evnroll ER5v with short Plumbers Neck.  I kept track of the numbers from distances of 5,10, and 20 feet from 5 spots around a hole. I also, tested it on a ruler to check on how it does staying on my target line, and I also tested to the best of my ability strike location and the groove technology. I also kept track of how many putts I had per round as I played.

LOOKS (10 out of 10)-
I went with the ER5v which is the Hatchback model, or fang style, and this is by far my favorite looking putter. One thing that really stands with the Evnroll over other heads I have seen in this style, is how defined the lines are on the head. It looks like it is carved, not just one flowing piece. With the topline cut in a way that where they cut down the fangs, and it looks like two separate parts. This really helped me with alignment because it is a square bar, and made it easy to know when it was square at address. Another great feature was the back cutout was the moon shape between the tip of the fangs. It created an almost mirror effect with the golf ball to aide in center strike and setup. I really like the way that the head sits with regards to the hosel, it just really looked proper to my eye. The fangs were a good length, not too long like some I have seen, and with the inside part was cut in straight lines and defined it created an almost railroad effect. The two lines would create parallel lines along my target line, which helped me aim. The defined lines that make this putter look so amazing, make aligning and aiming this putter so easy.

SOUND AND FEEL (6 out of 10)-
For the last year I have had an insert putter, and maybe more muted sounding. The Envroll was very tingy sounding, almost like I was putting with a tin can or can of soup. I thought it was because I was using a firm golf ball, Pro V1x, so I bought some Pro V1, and it was the same. I do feel the sweet spot strikes were a bit better sounding than off center strikes.  It is not offensive to me, but sounds is the hardest thing for me to explain due to my reduced hearing in my left ear. The feel for me was just as I like, solid. I never felt like I had any balls jump off the face, and I could easily tell where I struck on the face. This was every evident when I did the strike test, and never once did I have a question when I was getting the toe and heel strikes.  When I did hit one off center I could tell where on the face I struck it, but I did not feel like the putter face would twist. It was very stable, and very forgiving, which is where The ER5v really stood out when it comes to my putting numbers, and how confident I would become with this putter. There was one round I felt like every putt was going to fall even on my dreaded downhill right breaking putts.  
 
BASIC CHARACTERISTICS (19 out of 20)-
I said in my introduction, that I thought it was going to be hard to beat the Odyssey 2 Ball Ten S with Triple Track, as it is a really good putter for me. Yet, the Evnroll ER5v, is an outstanding putter for me. When it comes to accuracy, throughout the week at night, I will putt on my mat and put down a 4 foot ruler to check start line and if I can roll it straight. I kept track of 100 putts and with the Evnroll I had made it all the way off on 96, and with the Odyssey I made it all the way off on 92. I also, track of 100 putts from 5 spots around a hole from 5 10 and 20 feet. I kept track of make percentage, number of 3 putts from each distance, I also include PGA make percent just so I can keep myself in check. Obviously I am on a putting green, but before I saw these stats I really thought they made way more than the average. Here was my results…
 
EVNROLL TESTING TRACKER
DISTANCE
MAKE
ATTEMPT
PERCENT MADE
PGA MAKE %
3 PUTTS
5 FOOT
84
100
84%
80%
0
10 FOOT
41
100
41%
41%
0
20 FOOT
12
100
12%
13%
1
ODYSSEY 2 BALL TEN TRIPLE TRACK S
DISTANCE
MAKE
ATTEMPT
PERCENT MADE
PGA MAKE %
3 PUTTS
5 FOOT
77
100
77%
80%
0
10 FOOT
33
100
33%
41%
0
20 FOOT
9
100
9%
13%
6
                         
There were several days where I felt like I couldn’t miss with the Evnroll from 5 feet. To me where the Evnroll really stood out to me was at 20 feet, and how consistently close my balls were finishing to the hole compared to the 2 Ball Ten. It shows in the number of 3 putts I had with the 2 ball compare to the Er5v. I really had to grind on some putts coming back with the 2 Ball Ten, but with the Er5v I had so many tap ins or inside 3 feet putts I hardly stressed when I was on the 20 footers with it. Which leads me to the Strike/ Groove Technology test between the two models. I was torn on how I wanted to test the strike test, Evnroll has a great video of robot testing and how well the groove technology works. I am far from a robot, and if this technology was going to work it needs to work on my free swing. So, I would address putts out the middle, off the toe and off the heel. I was surprised on how difficult it was to purposely miss-hit it a putt.
CENTER STRIKE TEST EVNROLL

ODYSSEY CNETER STRIKE TEST

EVNROLL TOE STRIKE TEST

ODYSSEY TOE STRIKE TEST

EVNROLL HEEL STRIKE TEST 

ODYSSEY HEEL STRIKE TEST

On the miss-hits is where I noticed the Evnroll shined and the Odyssey struggled. Even on miss hits the Evnroll would tend to be inside the length of the putter, but for the 2 Ball Ten S there would be atleast one per group that would finish outside the length of the putter. I used the Evnroll every time so show a consistent representation for distance around the hole. This confirms what I was seeing from the 20 foot test, and how well I was able to not 3 putt with the Evnroll due to it really holding its line and consistently finishing around the hole.
ON COURSE PERFORMANCE (28 out of 30)-
I was able to get the ER5v, out on the course quite a bit. At first, I was not sure if I wanted to take a wedge out of the bag and still bring the 2 Ball Ten S out as well. I did not, I only took the ER5v, and it never came out the bag since. In my 20 rounds before the ER5v, I was averaging 34.1 putts per round, in the rounds I had with the ER5v I averaged 31.6. I even had one round with no 3 putts!! I found that I could be more aggressive with my lines and speed, which in turn helped me sink more putts especially in key moments of my matches with my buddies. The ER5v, even helped me sink a huge birdie putt to win a match. It was so good one day, my buddies laughed about not allowing the ER5v in our money matches. Where I struggled at first with the Er5v, was putts on the fringe. Yes, I am from Texas, but I don’t use the Texas wedge all that often. I wanted to use the putter as often as I could, and in as many situations as I could. I had a 20 foot putt for eagle, with the first 5 feet through the fringe, and I embarrassingly left it well short. I noticed that I had to hit it noticeably more firm when on the fringe, and I improved a lot with those shots after that moment. I think it is because it starts rolling on the ground almost instantly, and I practiced it more after that putt. It was a learning moment, and now I have a new shot to use on the course. Overall, this putter has saved me 3 shots a round on the green, and it is very surprising due to my horrendous ball striking during this test, and I will keep posting as I get more rounds under the belt. I am very optimistic as I am working with the pro on my ball striking, that my handicap will go down. Swing changes are hard lol. When asked about how my impressions on Evnroll, and my opinion on the direction they should go moving forward, I would say I am impressed. I have used Evnroll before, but I did not get along with a face balanced model. I hope they will never go away from the groove technology, nor the added hosels of the V-series. They are game changers, and I do believe I will be an Evnroll customer as long as this continues.
 
MISCELLANEOUS (7 out of 10)-
There was some confusion at the beginning on how the ordering was going to happen, but once we placed the order, my putter came in quickly. I really like the quality of the headcover, it is a really soft leather, but more importantly it stays on. With other putter covers the magnet or Velcro would not hold and I would lose it. I haven’t had that issue at all. Another thing is the Gravity grip, I really like the idea behind it, but find it too big. I would wonder if they could make a similar shape but a little more narrow. The ER5v really caught the eye of the Pro at my course, and would always come by and roll some putts with it, and my playing partners always hated to see it in the bag, so that’s how I know it is good.
 
PLAY IT OR TRADE IT (20 out of 20)-
This has been in my bag since I received it, and it is staying there. I may dabble with trying a different putter grip, but it is staying in the bag. Being confident on putts inside 10 feet that I feel will go in the hole, and not worrying about 3 putting as much is huge for my game. I think anyone who miss hit putts should really look into this putter.
CONCLUSION-
I am really thankful for the opportunity of testing the Evnroll ER5v, I put a lot of hours on the practice green to get the data for this test. I tested it alongside my Odyssey 2 Ball Ten S with triple track, and saw improvements from 5 10 and 20 feet. On the course I was 3 putts better a round on average, and one round with no 3 putts. I could see a difference in my lag putting with the Evnroll ER5v. I really like the looks, and this may well be my favorite putter, so I can easily overlook the sound of the putter. I will continue to put the groove technology to the test, and keep practicing these distances so see how the numbers hold up over time. If anyone wants a forgiving putter, or struggles with 3 putting, I really believe they should give the Evnroll a try!
FINAL SCORE: 90/100  
 

I would like to thank My Golf Spy and Evnroll for the opportunity to be a tester for one of the new V series putters.  I will be testing a 34” Evnroll ER11v with the long plumber neck. I have a slight arc to my putting stroke.  I have been an off and on golfer since my mid-20s, after getting out of the Army in the late 80s. I was born and raised in the San Francisco Bay Area and grew up across the street from a golf course, but I never played the game as a kid. I once came home from school to find a broken bedroom window and a golf ball on my bed. That golf course was Sharp Park Golf Course in Pacifica, CA. It was designed by Alister MacKenzie. The first course I ever played a full 18 holes on though was Harding Park. That was well before it was managed by the Arnold Palmer Company and before it became a TPC site.

My professional life started in the US Army where I was trained to maintain and repair medical equipment. I got out of the army and joined a medical imaging equipment manufacturer where I worked for 31 years. That company had moved me all over the U.S. My first move took me from California to Connecticut for several years. It was in CT that I recorded my one and only eagle. It was in league play, and it was a pitch in on a par 5 on the 9th hole at Grassy Hills Country Club in Orange, CT. Work then moved back across country to the Seattle area. There were several courses I enjoyed playing in Washington. Walter Hall in Everett, WA was my home course. In 2018, my wife and I moved cross country again to be closer to family. This time to Central New York, just outside of Syracuse. In 2019 my job changed and joined the ranks of semi-retirement which now allows me more regular golf, weather permitting as I am fair weather golfer.
My current home course is Radisson Greens in Baldwinsville, NY. It is an 18-hole par 72 course at 6360 yards from the white tees. The course was designed by Robert Trent Jones, Sr. I purchased a Monday through Thursday membership there this year and I get out a couple of times a week weather permitting. The course is very challenging, but I love the layout. It is tree lined and tight in spots. I do have an uncanny knack for finding trees especially on hole number 5 and water on hole number 3.
I do not have a handicap, other than my swing. I generally shoot around 100. Most recently I have seen improvements in my putting and wedge play. My real struggle has been off the tee. The “How’d You Play” section of the forum has me looking at my game more closely. Reading the posts of others has inspired me to pay more attention to all aspects of my game.
I play golf because I enjoy being out walking the course and if good scores come than it is a bonus. I also am an equipment junkie. I remember reading Golf Equipment Magazine (one of those paper things that was out before the internet 😄). If I had the means, I would probably be a putter collector. I just love the aesthetics of good golf equipment design which explains why I installed BB&F Co. Valentina ferrules on my irons. I also have a small collection of third party designed headcovers, mostly Rose & Fire with a couple of Scotty Cameron’s thrown in for good measure.

On the equipment front, my first set of clubs was a Wilson box set with wooden woods. From there my bag make up has changed but my woods have seen the most changes. I have rotated through a lot of TaylorMade Divers and fairway woods, but I eventually switched to Ping. My Ping G400 Max was the first time I was fitted for a club, and I have yet to find a reason to change it. My iron history is small starting with Dunlop DDH II, TaylorMade Super Steel, Ping G25 (I won these through work) which brings me to my current set of PXG 0211. The PXG clubs entered my bag mostly because of price. The For Heroes Program PXG offers was just too good of a deal to pass up. The PXG 0341 3 wood is the best performing 3 wood I have ever had in my bag. My wedges have either been Cleveland or Callaway. My putter history was primarily Anser style putters. They include two TaylorMade putters the last being the Rossa Daytona 1. I gamed Odyssey Metal X Milled #2 but I did not like the feel of it. It was a My Golf Spy review and Most Wanted win that led me to trying Evnroll putters for the first time. I ended up with a mallet putter for the first time when I purchased the ER7. I was initial attract to the idea of a higher MOI putter but really like the feel and consistency of the roll the ER7 gave me. I am also a member of the “Pushcart Mafia” with a Clicgear 3.5+ pushcart.
What’s in my bag?

Bag: TaylorMade Supreme Hybrid Stand Bag
Driver: Ping G400 Max 10.5°
Shaft: Project X HZRDUS Smoke Black 5.5
Grip: Golf Pride MCC Plus 4 Teams
3 Wood: PXG Gen 1 0341 15°
Shaft: Project X EvenFlow Blue 5.5
Grip: Golf Pride MCC Plus 4 Teams
Utility: New Level Golf 18° Utility Iron
Shaft: Mitsubishi Kura Kage Black 70IR S-Flex
Hybrid: Ping G30 19°
Shaft: Ping TFC 419H Regular Flex
Grip: Golf Pride MCC Plus 4 Teams
Ping G410 Crossover 4
Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei Blue Regular Flex
Grip: Golf Pride MCC Plus 4 Teams
Irons: PXG 0211 5 – GW
Shafts: True Temper Elevate 95 w/VSS Regular Flex
Grip: PXG Lamkin Z5
Wedge: Callaway Mack Daddy CB 54°/14° W Grind 
Shafts: KBS 105 Hi Rev 2.0 Wedge Flex
Grip: Callaway Golf Pride SG-1
Putter:  Evnroll ER7 34”
Grip: Evnroll non-taper 1.2
Pushcart:
Clicgear 3.5+
Rangefinder:
Mileseey PF210
Bushnell NEO Ion GPS watch
Ball:
Kirkland Signature 3 piece
 
July 14, 2021 - First Taste
I ventured out to the practice green at a local course, Hickory Hill, for my first putts out of my basement with the ER11v. I also brought my current gamer, ER7,  to do some quick comparisons.

I putted a bit to get a feel for the green then proceeded to using the Strokes Gained Putting system developed by Columbia Business School professor, Mark Broadie for MGS. Initial impressions. I prefer the look of alignment aids on the ER11v over the ER7. I prefer the sound and feel of the ER7. As for the strokes gained numbers, that will have to wait. 
 
I will be taking the ER11v out for round tomorrow. More to come
July 15, 2021 - First Time on the Course
The putter performed really well for me for the first time out. I played a quick 9 and was most pleased. I had four 1 putts, including a 15 footer on number 9. There was only one disaster hole. I would attribute that to operator error. I total misread and I pulled the putt to boot. I ordered a Joby Gorilla Pod to take videos on the course which will arrive on July 16th. 

 
Not gonna lie. I love the way this putter looks.
 
Stage Two – Evnroll V Series Putters – Official MGS Forum Review by @MattWillGolf
 
Intro
I tested this putter on the course, on a PuttOUT mat in my basement and on the practice green. On the practice green I used the Strokes Gained Putting system developed by Columbia Business School professor, Mark Broadie. I did this over several sessions on the green to compare the ER11v with my current gamer, the ER7. Both putters are 34-inch mallets having a high MOI. The ER11v head weighs 365 grams and the ER7 is 370 grams.
Looks (10 out of 10 points) 
The putter I tested was a 34” ER11v. It is a mallet putter with a long putter neck designed for a putting stroke with a slight arc. I found the graphics to add to the shelf appeal. I really liked the black head with silver weights. The design is very clean at address. I found the alignment aids, a single dot and 2 lines along the length of head to be complementary and really focused me at address. The rear of the putter is slightly framed at address. I am very pleased with the design. The black anodized head, simple neck, black shaft, and black Tour Tac Grip really come together to make a putter that for me inspired confidence. The putter’s appearance is what initially attracted me to choosing this putter. I like the looks much better than my current putter. As I have had this putter in my bag, I am noticing some wear marks on the anodized black finish. I generally remove the putter cover on the first green and store during the round.
 Sound & Feel (9 out of 10 points)
 The ER11v “feels” sharper at contact and the sound is something I would describe as crisp. It reminds if a rap of the knuckle on a very solid wooden door. There is a noticeable difference when compared to my ER7. I prefer the sound of the ER7. But honestly if I didn’t have the ER7 to compare it too I would probably give the score here a 10. I conducted a feel test between the 2 putters. I donned a pair of noise canceling headphones and turned up the volume and played R.E.M.’s Eponymous album. Then proceed to hit a series of putts. I could detect no difference in feel. So, for me the only difference is sound. I won’t label the sound of the ER11v as bad. I simply prefer the softer sound of the ER7. This is chalk up to the 303 stainless steel vs. anodized 6061 aluminum. I thought the sound would bother me a little more on the course but when the putts started falling, I forgot about the sound. This putter has far better than sound and feel than one of my previous putters, the Odyssey Metal X Milled #2.
 Basic Characteristics (20 out of 20 points)
 I gave the ER11v a workout on my PuttOUT mat. I found little difficulty with distance control and accuracy. This putter as with my ER7 are very stable. I also found that the alignment lines on the putter were great help in keeping the putter on path. I used Craftsman Laser as an alignment line as well as the lines on the putting mat. On the course I still have issues reading putts and there is nothing a putter can do to help that, but I can say that on the course putts go where directed. The size of the head gives me confidence in sing the putter from the fringe or out of the rough. The putter’s forgiveness is excellent as it is with my ER7. The “Sweet Face” Technology was something I wanted test a bit further, so I performed a mini strokes gained test at 3 points on the face. Instead of comparing putters I compared face positions. I called them “Left”, “Center”, and “Right”. I used the alignment aids as centering for each segment of the face. The center of the face offered 2.4 stokes gained over the left and center positions. Take that for what its worth given my putting skills. The TourTac Grip feels nice, and it appears to be a bit smaller than the grip on my ER7.

 
 
On-Course Performance (30 out of 30 points)
 When I was selected to do this test, I started keeping putting stats as I played each round before receiving the ER11v for testing. I generally play 9 holes a couple of times a week. With rounds leading up to testing I got on the course 8 times, and I averaged 16.875 putts per nine holes. With the test ER11v I was only able to get out 6 times with my back acting up. For those six rounds I averaged 16.667 putts per round. I honestly didn’t expect a great deal of difference between the two Evnroll putters. But I can report that on the course I did make more longer putts with the ER11v. The one putt that really stood out was one from the fringe that was over 30 feet. The looks of the ER11v inspired confidence. I often use a putter when close to the green from rough depending on the lie.
 I performed the Strokes Gained Test on four different occasions on two different practice greens in my area. As the test is described I putted out five times each from 5 feet, 10 feet, and 20 feet with both the Evnroll ER7 and ER11v.  
 With testing I found that my overall average for the two putters from 5 feet 1.55 putts, from 10 feet was 1.7 putts and from 20 feet was 2.05 putts. For the same distances the ER7 averaged 1.6 putts at 5 ft., 1.7 putts at 10 feet and 2.1 putts at 20 feet. The ER11v averaged 1.5 putts at 5ft, 1.7 putts at 10 and 2.0 putts at 20 feet. For 18 holes the Strokes Gained Potential was 1.2 strokes in favor of the ER11v.
 
Miscellaneous (8 out of 10 points)
The design of the putter had an added feature that I disregarded at first but found it to be most useful on the practice green. This feature will be greatly appreciated by those of us afflicted with less than perfect backs. The ER11v has a circular cut out perfect for retrieving balls off the green. The packaging was simple and my putter arrived safely. Maybe a bit more packaging to keep the club more secure would be nice. My point of reference is PXG and Callaway. I really like the design of the ER11 V Series head cover, but I do miss the ball marker that was part of the ER7 head cover. The ER11 head cover mimics the looks of the putter down to the silver embroidery that mimics the putter’s weights. The magnetic closure works well, and the lining is nice and soft. This cover will cause me to put my 3rd party Velcro head cover in the drawer as I have gotten so used to the magnetic closure. My area of concern though is with the durability of the anodized finish as I am starting to see some wear marks on some of corners and edges.

  

 
Play it or Trade it? (20 out of 20 points)
 I will keep this simple. This putter is staying in my bag. It will be replacing my ER7. This checks all the boxes on the course. The looks and feel inspire confidence. I have sunk the longest putts I have ever sunk with this putter. I use it from the fringe and rough depending on the lie. The mass of the putter gives the confidence to get through the ball. The only issues I have on the greens are not from the putter but are with my greens reading ability. This putter goes where its aimed. Given the neck options offered by Evnroll, there is version of the ER11v for any stroke arc. And they offer an arm lock version as well. I was sold on the face technology long before this putter arrived. If you prefer a mallet then this one is highly recommended.  
 Conclusion
Thanks to My Golf Spy for this opportunity. It was fun to try something new and get a bit out of my comfort zone. Thanks to my fellow testers for your posts that planted seeds in my head on the test process as it was my first. @fixyurdivot for the example of the strokes gained table. I was struggling with how to get that across in my review. And thanks Evnroll for such a great putter to test. Well before this test was announced the ER11v caught my eye. And from my perspective it met all my expectations. This was a difficult comparison in that I was sold on the Evnroll “Sweet Face” technology with my ER7 going into this test. Both putters are mallets and the only differentiator for me was looks. I do like that the V Series has multiple neck options that support virtually any putting stroke. Evnroll now offers custom paint fill as a purchasable option. I must say I would have enjoyed putting a personal touch on my putter with some orange replacing the red. I am a San Francisco Giants fan after all 😊. If you are in the market for a new putter Evnroll needs to be on your short list. And if you want a high MOI mallet then the ER11v should be at the top meriting a look.
 
Final Score: 97 out of 100
Update 9/12/2021
I decided to switch back to my Evnroll ER7. I believe in the Sweet Face Technology but this was purely because of the sound. The firm, crisp, click just threw me off. I played my first 9 hole round today since switching back and recorded 14 putts over the 9 holes with 2 one putts and the rest were 2 putts with zero 3 putts this included a chip in for par on the first hole. 🙂  
Update 2/12/2022
The winter months have me putting in the basement. I broke the ER11v again. It’s been rolling really well and I’m not as put off by the sound. I definitely like alignment aids on the back of the mallet. Which begs the question, how often to golfers switch between putters?
 

Introduction
This introduction post will be in two parts: what I thought of my putting going into my fitting, and then my expectations and first impressions when I received the Edel EAS 4.0 putter.
Here are my thoughts on my putting going into my fitting:
I'm a decent putter, and it's a strength of my game, relative to handicap. I've got years of on-course stats to back this up, including Arccos the past two years. Over my past 15 rounds, Arccos has my putting SG equal to a 7-handicap. I average just over 30 putts per round. There's a consistent pattern in that data, though: I'm a better putter (by SG) from 10–25' than I am from 0–10'. This is true in the data for virtually every round I play. I miss short putts far too often. Going into this test, this is my highest priority. As for my actual setup and stroke: I've posted about this before, that I don't see the correct line correctly. I can set a 4' ruler on the correct line for a straight 8' putt, aligned with a laser. If I turn off the laser and address a ball at the end of the ruler, the ruler will look to me as though it is pointing almost outside the cup on the left. I have tried moving my head and body around to all sorts of angles without success. If I address a putt from the left side, the line looks correct. Using a home putting analyzer (SwingByte), I therefore tend to aim about 2° right of the cup. My stroke is quirky. Early on, I read Dave Pelz and decided to work on a SBST stroke. Like many who attempt that, I actually ended up with a stroke that tends to move outside the line on my backstroke. Coming into impact, I close the face relative to address, which starts the ball on the correct line, though a line to the left of where I was aimed. On a normal straight putt, my predominant miss is a pull. I'm intrigued, obviously, to see if any of the myriad alignment options on the Edel change my perception of the line. I'm also probably more interested to see if their torque-balanced putter, combined with custom weighting and their grip options, can mitigate some of my tendency to come outside the line on my backstroke.
Of the four headshapes, the rounded back mallet appeals to me subjectively the least: it's just not a shape I've ever really loved. My baseline expectation is that I'd end up with the fanged mallet: I am currently playing with the Toe Up version of the Odyssey Seven. But if I end up with either of the blades, that is no problem either.
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And here is the video I shot to jumpstart my review on the day I received my Edel:
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FINAL REVIEW
The bones of this review were written over a year ago. Although I started writing it, I never completed it, and that isn’t acceptable. I apologize to Edel and to the community for not getting this final review done in a timely manner. In the spirit of better late than never:
I’m going to lead with the conclusion: the Edel EAS 4.0 is a very good putter—and a better experience, if you can go get fitted.
Look and Feel
This is a challenging category to rate the Edel, for several reasons. There is, of course, the undeniable subjectivity in rating the looks of a putter. But there’s also a difference between putters that exist almost entirely to look pretty (see Tyson Lamb) and putters that exist merely to be functional (see LAB) regardless of appearance.
Edel’s priority is function. That explains the interesting cavities in the sole of the putter: they are designed to put this putter (like the LAB, the Odyssey Toe Up line, and Axis1) in the torque-balanced category. The most obvious indication of this is that my Edel 4.0 is neither face-balanced nor does it have toe hang: it rests with the toe up:

Because the design of the putter is built around function, I don’t think it’s as overtly “pretty” as some flatsticks. Looking down at my Edel, I don’t adore the onset hosel, for instance.
But granting that function is favored over form, the actual quality of the Edel is quite high. The detailing of the head is top-notch. The face groove pattern is distinctive and eye-catching (not at address, mind you). All in all, I give the Edel high marks for looks, especially in comparison to some of the monstrosities created to have the same function.
As for feel: if I were benchmarking putters, the Edel would sit as a standard for neutral. I don’t mean that in a bad way, as though it’s mediocre. The idea is that the Edel face is neither harsh nor mushy. It is precisely what I would expect of a milled face metal putter without some kind of plastic/polymer insert. I find it utterly unnoticeable, in the best possible way.
Accuracy
[Keeping this paragraph from the first version of my review; update after the second full season below.] I’ve played just over 35 rounds (mostly 9 hole) with my Edel now. (I wish Arccos had a functioning “compare this date range to that date range” function, like Game Golf has). So while this comparison isn’t perfect, it captures almost all the rounds I have played with my Edel vs. the previous 35:

You can see from the orange vs. grey line that I started out hot, but that my recent rounds with the Edel haven’t been nearly as good.



 
Because I can’t go back and tell Arccos to show me the numbers for the rounds just preceding getting the Edel, I’ll pull up this image from the MGS archives. This includes my first round with the Edel, but with the nine prior rounds before getting it.

[Update after second season]
The one benefit of taking so very long to post this review is that, whether I intended to do so or not, I can do some longer-term stat tracking. Unfortunately, the news isn’t all that good. Here are the Arccos putting numbers for the final 25 rounds of last season:


There’s nothing pretty here. Obviously, it’s tough to control for all variables. A big one: I began last season with a commitment to heads up putting (looking at the hole on virtually every putt). That wasn’t working out for me. So I was flailing around for much of the end of the year last year, trying to find something that might work. I have a hard time blaming the putter for this, but it certainly suggests that finding a good putter isn’t a cure-all.
Conclusion and Takeaways
If you’re reading this, you’re likely (at some level) kicking around whether an Edel putter is right for you. If that’s the case, you probably fall into one of three categories.
The person buying an Edel off the rack
If you’re only interested in the Edel putter as a putter, here’s what you’re getting: a nice putter that’s probably the best-looking of any of the torque-balanced options. Edel isn’t really competing with Scotty Cameron or Bettinardi—not because their putters aren’t of that caliber, but because Edel’s first priority is a specific tech rather than a specific look. The reality is: you can go buy an Edel off the rack or from their website. And you'll get a good putter. But you're really missing out on much of the genius behind this putter: its modular aiming system and the knowledge of the fitters.
The person who already has a putter well-fitted
This was my situation. My fitting process confirmed much of what I already knew about my putting and my preference in putters, which was encouraging. I have confidence that my Edel is well-suited for my stroke.
The person without a fitted putter getting fitted for an Edel
This is the person who has the most to gain from an Edel putter. If you either have never really tinkered with different putters, or if you tinker with every kind of putter because you don't know what you're actually looking for, the Edel fitting and putter stand to give you the most bang for your buck. You will learn how your body type should cause you to favor a particular way of swinging the putter. You'll learn about how you see the line of putts. The knowledge from the fitting alone is worth half the price of the putter, because it will allow you not only to purchase the best Edel for your game, but also give you confidence when you insist on buying yet another putter down the road (because most of us are kind of like that).
Bottom line for me: right at the moment, it's likely that I'll begin my 2023 season with an Odyssey 2Ball Ten in my bag. But I just put an Garsen grip on my Edel, and the early results are quite promising. The Odyssey might be the starter, but the Edel is going to be first off the bench if the Odyssey falters even a little bit.

EDEL E.A.S. #4
The Official MyGolfSpy Forum Review by
Sluggo42
 
Looks (9 out of 10 points)

 
 I have always loved the “Fang” shape/style on a putter. The only other “fang” I ever owned was the good old Tommy Armor TA3, which coincidently also won “most wanted” mallet style putter a few times. That’s a great little putter, which i got for $79 from Dicks sporting goods a few years ago. 
The Edel E.A.S #4 is not a putter that jumps off the page when looking at it, but rather draws you in with the simplicity of its general unassuming presence.

The round grip is so simple and basic, yet it’s one of the secrets to its accuracy.

The hexagon dimpled face, and the alignment plate are really the only differentiating aspects from a really basic fang style putter.

I remember reading different articles when I was researching these putters, and I recall a few people having major problems with the alignment plates looks. And then claiming they would never use a putter with such an ugly plate.

 
It makes me laugh at how people can be so judgmental about something so trivial, when actually they might be the person who could really benefit from the system. Look at the pictures we are all posting and if you find the looks to be so bad that you wouldn’t use it, and then please tell me why in the comments section.
It’s clean and simple really, as seems to be the case with most of the classic clubs, like some good old Mizuno blades, right? The putter cover is a thing of beauty though, and the soft black rabbit fur on the inside is luxurious. (no real animals were harmed, and its not real rabbit fur….c’mon man!)
 
 
Sound & Feel (10 out of 10 points)
From the very first putt to the last putt I’ve taken since taking possession of “Adele”, this has been the best feeling, as well as an exceptionally good sounding as any putter that’s ever been in my bag. Its similar, yet slightly softer than may Evnroll, but has a very similar sound. It’s a solid knock that isn’t hollow or mushy in any way. Kind of how a forged blade feels on a flush strike, vs. a hollow filled club. It just tells you it was a clean strike.
 




Basic Characteristics (20 out of 20 points)
I spent an hour and a half on the practice green while getting fitted, so I had numerous putts as I was getting used to its feel and distance attributes. By the time my fitting was done I had already bonded to the club in an almost intimate way. 
My aim is true -  (Elvis Costello, 1977)
For once in my life with a putter, this is true. The ball actually goes where I aim. Point and shoot actually works now. 
Distance control now actually means something as I am rarely more then a few feet away for my second putt, the counter balancing in the grip creates this ability.
 
I will use this putter from the fringe almost always, unless I have sprinkler heads in my way. Its much more consistent than chipping for me.
 
On-Course Performance (30 out of 30 points)
This is where this putter shines. I wasn’t ever the greatest putter, and part of the fitting process showed at least one reason why. With the use of the reflective mirror on the putter face, and the laser pointer, it showed that I wasn’t seeing the proper aim to the cup. From about six feet, my aim was a foot off, again and again. Then, the same thing happened when I first started aiming with the Edel putter. Kevin, using a simple magic marker, kept changing the alignment marks until suddenly I was aiming straight at the hole, again and again. I guess everyones brain sees things slightly differently, so just one mark doesn’t necessarily work for everyone. 
So every round I was always missing many putts that I thought I should have been making, or at least be closer. 
I was always in that 34-36 putts per round. I used to laugh to myself when I would read fellow spies talking about sub 30 putt rounds and I always secretly thought they were full of it. 
And I would also like to stress that “putts per round” can be a very misleading stat, as there are so many variables involved with that stat..   Buuuttttt….
Then I suddenly started having sub-30 putt rounds, and I’m talking 26-27 putt rounds, and was scoring well too. But even if I had a round in the 80’s I was still way under 36 putts. I started making some of the 6-8 footers that were a guaranteed miss before. 
 As always, the most difficult putt is the pressure putt. In fact, they came up with a name for it, they call it the yips. Most everyone has experienced the feeling. A 4 footer to win the day, and you pull it left. Dad gummit! It happens in even the best of families. The best cure is being absolutely sure your put will go by simply trusting your aim to be true and letting it happen. 
This putter will give you that trust, and the more putts you make, the more you trust in it. It’s a win-win. I’ve made more pressure putts with Adele, than I ever made with my previous putters. And that is because, I was never really sure of my aim before. Now I am much more sure of my aim, and that’s the first half of the equation. Now I need to just make a pure stroke, and it’s in. If I mess that up its on me, and not the putter.
The final analysis is that I am indeed making more putts. 
 
I never really knew much about the Edel company, and always thought of them as more of a boutique company that made a higher quality club. The E.A.S. putter has done nothing but reinforce this thought. Edel make good stuff, period
It seems these days that there is always some way to improve something with next years model right? But sometimes they get it right and there isn’t really any reason to change. It is my opinion that the E.A.S #4 is correct right now. Don’t change a thing, and just keep making putts.
What I love about this putter is in 3 areas. 
 
1. the round grip - It forces me to really look at the face and alignment plate to get the correct aim
2. the alignment plate - thru trial and error, its the one that allows MY brain to aim correctly
3. the counter balanced grip – It has been perfectly balanced to allow MY brain to choose how far I’m going to hit the ball. 
I think the really cool deal with this putter is that its structured to allow your brain to do the putt programming subconsciously, and it turns the putt into a simple underhanded toss where you don’t have to really think about it, you just “feel” it.
 
Miscellaneous (9 out of 10 points)
Everything about this putter is simple and sweet. From the gorgeous classic head shape to the counter balanced round grip. Heck, even the head cover is a beautiful stitched leather, with a strong magnet to keep it closed.

 

It’s also got a soft furry insides that snuggles the head with its warm hug. The actual fitting process with my fitter “Kevin” was the chord that made this putter into a song. That is what makes this putter, “the” putter.




Play it or Trade it? (20 out of 20 points)
There is absolutely no doubt, this putter will be in my bag till the day they pry it from my cold dead hands, ha-ha. One of the tightest choking points in golf is on the putting green, right? Having the clarity of mind that you know you can put down the roll you want, helps remove the sinister slice of self-doubt. In fact, what happens is that you actually start thinking you can make any putt, and you actually get bothered when you don’t 
I think this flat-stick benefits everyone who plays it, but in my mind, the deathly serious player is the guy this putter is tailor made for. It is made for the guy who has money on every stroke. It is made for the guy who understands the absolute need for perfect accuracy under pressure. This is the guy who doesn’t blink at a larger price tag, because he understands this is the one stick that gets hit more than every other stick in his bag. This is the putter that actually will shave a stroke or two off an already low index.



Conclusion
In conclusion, I couldn’t be any happier with a putter. I almost loved my Tommy Armor TA3, and I really liked my Evnroll ER3, but “Adele” completes me. It’s as close to an extension of my brain to my hand, like a simple underhanded toss can get. I see it, and the putter rolls it. Unfortunately my brain doesn’t always see correctly, but that’s not the putters fault. If I read it right, the putt has a very realistic chance of falling into the cup. The more I play, it seems the better my putting gets.
Sure the price tag is a bit shocking at first glance, but if you really think about it and what you get for your money, its not that bad.
Almost all the Scotty Camerons, and Evnrolls are over $300 right? Usually more I might add. Then, if you add in a custom fitting, that’s going to add an additional $150, so right there you’re at $450.
Now, can you honestly tell me that the driver in your bag didn’t cost a similar number? And do you hit your driver 30 times a round? Because you hit your putter that many time, give or take a few. And yes, we all know a 3” putt is equal to a 280 yard drive. Not as thrilling for sure, but the scorecard doesn’t know the difference.
If you are really serious about the game and would like a real chance at shaving a few strokes off the index, I think the Edel EAS system is a real way to achieve results, that doesn’t require a total relearning of how to swing a club. You will just aim better, and have a closer second putt. And fewer 3-putts will certainly result in lower scores right? 
 
FINAL SCORE  98 out of 100
This putter is as close to perfect as it gets. The reason a putter was invented was to hit the little ball into the hole. In order to do that you need to be able to aim it correctly, and then have the correct speed to make it all come together.
Your brain is the computer that programs the event and the Edel EAS putter is the tool that completes the process. If you are serious about the game, you owe yourself to give them a look.
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Some new stuff!
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The weight kit arrived!

It cost me $75, so I’m really hoping for some results. Today’s round was hot and dry, not my normal dewy morning with wet greens. They were tight and fast and I was going long. Tomorrow I’m expecting a similar day, so I’ll install a heavier weight that’s supposed to slow my stroke down. They are sized at 5, 10, 15, 20, 25 grams.


The stock one is 15 grams. It’s pretty interesting how much weight difference there really is between the 5 and the 25g weights.
they did come in a nice little zippered case that will stow easily in your bag, so you’re always ready for adjustments depending on what the practice green tells you before you’re round.


Its got a nifty little wrench included in the kit, so a quick weight change should be a snap. 

 

I’ll post some  thoughts after tomorrow’s round…
 
UPDATE….
so last week I played at a track with way faster greens, so I figured what a good time to try a heavier weight. So I pulled the 15g, and screwed in the 25g nugget. I didn’t really expect to notice much as c’mon, whats 10g right?
well lemme tell you! It felt significantly heavier. I honestly couldn’t believe it. So I figured what the heck, let’s go up to the practice green and see what it does. The first few rolls were tentative so I was a bit short, expecting the giant hammer of Thor to crush the ball. So then I just let it flow and it suddenly felt superb. I didn’t shoot lights out or anything, but my distance was excellent. 
 
so then I forgot all about it until this mornings round, which was chilly with a heavy dew on the greens. I putted ok, but was mad that I didn’t remember to change out the weight for a light one, as this is how they’re supposed to work. But, I’ll remember this tomorrow morning and try going light. It will be interesting to see how it works…
more to follow…
 
 

EDEL E.A.S. #4
The Official MyGolfSpy Forum Review by
Sluggo42
 
Looks (9 out of 10 points)

 
 I have always loved the “Fang” shape/style on a putter. The only other “fang” I ever owned was the good old Tommy Armor TA3, which coincidently also won “most wanted” mallet style putter a few times. That’s a great little putter, which i got for $79 from Dicks sporting goods a few years ago. 
The Edel E.A.S #4 is not a putter that jumps off the page when looking at it, but rather draws you in with the simplicity of its general unassuming presence.

The round grip is so simple and basic, yet it’s one of the secrets to its accuracy.

The hexagon dimpled face, and the alignment plate are really the only differentiating aspects from a really basic fang style putter.

I remember reading different articles when I was researching these putters, and I recall a few people having major problems with the alignment plates looks. And then claiming they would never use a putter with such an ugly plate.

 
It makes me laugh at how people can be so judgmental about something so trivial, when actually they might be the person who could really benefit from the system. Look at the pictures we are all posting and if you find the looks to be so bad that you wouldn’t use it, and then please tell me why in the comments section.
It’s clean and simple really, as seems to be the case with most of the classic clubs, like some good old Mizuno blades, right? The putter cover is a thing of beauty though, and the soft black rabbit fur on the inside is luxurious. (no real animals were harmed, and its not real rabbit fur….c’mon man!)
 
 
Sound & Feel (10 out of 10 points)
From the very first putt to the last putt I’ve taken since taking possession of “Adele”, this has been the best feeling, as well as an exceptionally good sounding as any putter that’s ever been in my bag. Its similar, yet slightly softer than may Evnroll, but has a very similar sound. It’s a solid knock that isn’t hollow or mushy in any way. Kind of how a forged blade feels on a flush strike, vs. a hollow filled club. It just tells you it was a clean strike.
 




Basic Characteristics (20 out of 20 points)
I spent an hour and a half on the practice green while getting fitted, so I had numerous putts as I was getting used to its feel and distance attributes. By the time my fitting was done I had already bonded to the club in an almost intimate way. 
My aim is true -  (Elvis Costello, 1977)
For once in my life with a putter, this is true. The ball actually goes where I aim. Point and shoot actually works now. 
Distance control now actually means something as I am rarely more then a few feet away for my second putt, the counter balancing in the grip creates this ability.
 
I will use this putter from the fringe almost always, unless I have sprinkler heads in my way. Its much more consistent than chipping for me.
 
On-Course Performance (30 out of 30 points)
This is where this putter shines. I wasn’t ever the greatest putter, and part of the fitting process showed at least one reason why. With the use of the reflective mirror on the putter face, and the laser pointer, it showed that I wasn’t seeing the proper aim to the cup. From about six feet, my aim was a foot off, again and again. Then, the same thing happened when I first started aiming with the Edel putter. Kevin, using a simple magic marker, kept changing the alignment marks until suddenly I was aiming straight at the hole, again and again. I guess everyones brain sees things slightly differently, so just one mark doesn’t necessarily work for everyone. 
So every round I was always missing many putts that I thought I should have been making, or at least be closer. 
I was always in that 34-36 putts per round. I used to laugh to myself when I would read fellow spies talking about sub 30 putt rounds and I always secretly thought they were full of it. 
And I would also like to stress that “putts per round” can be a very misleading stat, as there are so many variables involved with that stat..   Buuuttttt….
Then I suddenly started having sub-30 putt rounds, and I’m talking 26-27 putt rounds, and was scoring well too. But even if I had a round in the 80’s I was still way under 36 putts. I started making some of the 6-8 footers that were a guaranteed miss before. 
 As always, the most difficult putt is the pressure putt. In fact, they came up with a name for it, they call it the yips. Most everyone has experienced the feeling. A 4 footer to win the day, and you pull it left. Dad gummit! It happens in even the best of families. The best cure is being absolutely sure your put will go by simply trusting your aim to be true and letting it happen. 
This putter will give you that trust, and the more putts you make, the more you trust in it. It’s a win-win. I’ve made more pressure putts with Adele, than I ever made with my previous putters. And that is because, I was never really sure of my aim before. Now I am much more sure of my aim, and that’s the first half of the equation. Now I need to just make a pure stroke, and it’s in. If I mess that up its on me, and not the putter.
The final analysis is that I am indeed making more putts. 
 
I never really knew much about the Edel company, and always thought of them as more of a boutique company that made a higher quality club. The E.A.S. putter has done nothing but reinforce this thought. Edel make good stuff, period
It seems these days that there is always some way to improve something with next years model right? But sometimes they get it right and there isn’t really any reason to change. It is my opinion that the E.A.S #4 is correct right now. Don’t change a thing, and just keep making putts.
What I love about this putter is in 3 areas. 
 
1. the round grip - It forces me to really look at the face and alignment plate to get the correct aim
2. the alignment plate - thru trial and error, its the one that allows MY brain to aim correctly
3. the counter balanced grip – It has been perfectly balanced to allow MY brain to choose how far I’m going to hit the ball. 
I think the really cool deal with this putter is that its structured to allow your brain to do the putt programming subconsciously, and it turns the putt into a simple underhanded toss where you don’t have to really think about it, you just “feel” it.
 
Miscellaneous (9 out of 10 points)
Everything about this putter is simple and sweet. From the gorgeous classic head shape to the counter balanced round grip. Heck, even the head cover is a beautiful stitched leather, with a strong magnet to keep it closed.

 

It’s also got a soft furry insides that snuggles the head with its warm hug. The actual fitting process with my fitter “Kevin” was the chord that made this putter into a song. That is what makes this putter, “the” putter.




Play it or Trade it? (20 out of 20 points)
There is absolutely no doubt, this putter will be in my bag till the day they pry it from my cold dead hands, ha-ha. One of the tightest choking points in golf is on the putting green, right? Having the clarity of mind that you know you can put down the roll you want, helps remove the sinister slice of self-doubt. In fact, what happens is that you actually start thinking you can make any putt, and you actually get bothered when you don’t 
I think this flat-stick benefits everyone who plays it, but in my mind, the deathly serious player is the guy this putter is tailor made for. It is made for the guy who has money on every stroke. It is made for the guy who understands the absolute need for perfect accuracy under pressure. This is the guy who doesn’t blink at a larger price tag, because he understands this is the one stick that gets hit more than every other stick in his bag. This is the putter that actually will shave a stroke or two off an already low index.



Conclusion
In conclusion, I couldn’t be any happier with a putter. I almost loved my Tommy Armor TA3, and I really liked my Evnroll ER3, but “Adele” completes me. It’s as close to an extension of my brain to my hand, like a simple underhanded toss can get. I see it, and the putter rolls it. Unfortunately my brain doesn’t always see correctly, but that’s not the putters fault. If I read it right, the putt has a very realistic chance of falling into the cup. The more I play, it seems the better my putting gets.
Sure the price tag is a bit shocking at first glance, but if you really think about it and what you get for your money, its not that bad.
Almost all the Scotty Camerons, and Evnrolls are over $300 right? Usually more I might add. Then, if you add in a custom fitting, that’s going to add an additional $150, so right there you’re at $450.
Now, can you honestly tell me that the driver in your bag didn’t cost a similar number? And do you hit your driver 30 times a round? Because you hit your putter that many time, give or take a few. And yes, we all know a 3” putt is equal to a 280 yard drive. Not as thrilling for sure, but the scorecard doesn’t know the difference.
If you are really serious about the game and would like a real chance at shaving a few strokes off the index, I think the Edel EAS system is a real way to achieve results, that doesn’t require a total relearning of how to swing a club. You will just aim better, and have a closer second putt. And fewer 3-putts will certainly result in lower scores right? 
 
FINAL SCORE  98 out of 100
This putter is as close to perfect as it gets. The reason a putter was invented was to hit the little ball into the hole. In order to do that you need to be able to aim it correctly, and then have the correct speed to make it all come together.
Your brain is the computer that programs the event and the Edel EAS putter is the tool that completes the process. If you are serious about the game, you owe yourself to give them a look.
**********
Some new stuff!
**********
The weight kit arrived!

It cost me $75, so I’m really hoping for some results. Today’s round was hot and dry, not my normal dewy morning with wet greens. They were tight and fast and I was going long. Tomorrow I’m expecting a similar day, so I’ll install a heavier weight that’s supposed to slow my stroke down. They are sized at 5, 10, 15, 20, 25 grams.


The stock one is 15 grams. It’s pretty interesting how much weight difference there really is between the 5 and the 25g weights.
they did come in a nice little zippered case that will stow easily in your bag, so you’re always ready for adjustments depending on what the practice green tells you before you’re round.


Its got a nifty little wrench included in the kit, so a quick weight change should be a snap. 

 

I’ll post some  thoughts after tomorrow’s round…
 
UPDATE….
so last week I played at a track with way faster greens, so I figured what a good time to try a heavier weight. So I pulled the 15g, and screwed in the 25g nugget. I didn’t really expect to notice much as c’mon, whats 10g right?
well lemme tell you! It felt significantly heavier. I honestly couldn’t believe it. So I figured what the heck, let’s go up to the practice green and see what it does. The first few rolls were tentative so I was a bit short, expecting the giant hammer of Thor to crush the ball. So then I just let it flow and it suddenly felt superb. I didn’t shoot lights out or anything, but my distance was excellent. 
 
so then I forgot all about it until this mornings round, which was chilly with a heavy dew on the greens. I putted ok, but was mad that I didn’t remember to change out the weight for a light one, as this is how they’re supposed to work. But, I’ll remember this tomorrow morning and try going light. It will be interesting to see how it works…
more to follow…
 
 

EDEL E.A.S. #4
The Official MyGolfSpy Forum Review by
Sluggo42
 
Looks (9 out of 10 points)

 
 I have always loved the “Fang” shape/style on a putter. The only other “fang” I ever owned was the good old Tommy Armor TA3, which coincidently also won “most wanted” mallet style putter a few times. That’s a great little putter, which i got for $79 from Dicks sporting goods a few years ago. 
The Edel E.A.S #4 is not a putter that jumps off the page when looking at it, but rather draws you in with the simplicity of its general unassuming presence.

The round grip is so simple and basic, yet it’s one of the secrets to its accuracy.

The hexagon dimpled face, and the alignment plate are really the only differentiating aspects from a really basic fang style putter.

I remember reading different articles when I was researching these putters, and I recall a few people having major problems with the alignment plates looks. And then claiming they would never use a putter with such an ugly plate.

 
It makes me laugh at how people can be so judgmental about something so trivial, when actually they might be the person who could really benefit from the system. Look at the pictures we are all posting and if you find the looks to be so bad that you wouldn’t use it, and then please tell me why in the comments section.
It’s clean and simple really, as seems to be the case with most of the classic clubs, like some good old Mizuno blades, right? The putter cover is a thing of beauty though, and the soft black rabbit fur on the inside is luxurious. (no real animals were harmed, and its not real rabbit fur….c’mon man!)
 
 
Sound & Feel (10 out of 10 points)
From the very first putt to the last putt I’ve taken since taking possession of “Adele”, this has been the best feeling, as well as an exceptionally good sounding as any putter that’s ever been in my bag. Its similar, yet slightly softer than may Evnroll, but has a very similar sound. It’s a solid knock that isn’t hollow or mushy in any way. Kind of how a forged blade feels on a flush strike, vs. a hollow filled club. It just tells you it was a clean strike.
 




Basic Characteristics (20 out of 20 points)
I spent an hour and a half on the practice green while getting fitted, so I had numerous putts as I was getting used to its feel and distance attributes. By the time my fitting was done I had already bonded to the club in an almost intimate way. 
My aim is true -  (Elvis Costello, 1977)
For once in my life with a putter, this is true. The ball actually goes where I aim. Point and shoot actually works now. 
Distance control now actually means something as I am rarely more then a few feet away for my second putt, the counter balancing in the grip creates this ability.
 
I will use this putter from the fringe almost always, unless I have sprinkler heads in my way. Its much more consistent than chipping for me.
 
On-Course Performance (30 out of 30 points)
This is where this putter shines. I wasn’t ever the greatest putter, and part of the fitting process showed at least one reason why. With the use of the reflective mirror on the putter face, and the laser pointer, it showed that I wasn’t seeing the proper aim to the cup. From about six feet, my aim was a foot off, again and again. Then, the same thing happened when I first started aiming with the Edel putter. Kevin, using a simple magic marker, kept changing the alignment marks until suddenly I was aiming straight at the hole, again and again. I guess everyones brain sees things slightly differently, so just one mark doesn’t necessarily work for everyone. 
So every round I was always missing many putts that I thought I should have been making, or at least be closer. 
I was always in that 34-36 putts per round. I used to laugh to myself when I would read fellow spies talking about sub 30 putt rounds and I always secretly thought they were full of it. 
And I would also like to stress that “putts per round” can be a very misleading stat, as there are so many variables involved with that stat..   Buuuttttt….
Then I suddenly started having sub-30 putt rounds, and I’m talking 26-27 putt rounds, and was scoring well too. But even if I had a round in the 80’s I was still way under 36 putts. I started making some of the 6-8 footers that were a guaranteed miss before. 
 As always, the most difficult putt is the pressure putt. In fact, they came up with a name for it, they call it the yips. Most everyone has experienced the feeling. A 4 footer to win the day, and you pull it left. Dad gummit! It happens in even the best of families. The best cure is being absolutely sure your put will go by simply trusting your aim to be true and letting it happen. 
This putter will give you that trust, and the more putts you make, the more you trust in it. It’s a win-win. I’ve made more pressure putts with Adele, than I ever made with my previous putters. And that is because, I was never really sure of my aim before. Now I am much more sure of my aim, and that’s the first half of the equation. Now I need to just make a pure stroke, and it’s in. If I mess that up its on me, and not the putter.
The final analysis is that I am indeed making more putts. 
 
I never really knew much about the Edel company, and always thought of them as more of a boutique company that made a higher quality club. The E.A.S. putter has done nothing but reinforce this thought. Edel make good stuff, period
It seems these days that there is always some way to improve something with next years model right? But sometimes they get it right and there isn’t really any reason to change. It is my opinion that the E.A.S #4 is correct right now. Don’t change a thing, and just keep making putts.
What I love about this putter is in 3 areas. 
 
1. the round grip - It forces me to really look at the face and alignment plate to get the correct aim
2. the alignment plate - thru trial and error, its the one that allows MY brain to aim correctly
3. the counter balanced grip – It has been perfectly balanced to allow MY brain to choose how far I’m going to hit the ball. 
I think the really cool deal with this putter is that its structured to allow your brain to do the putt programming subconsciously, and it turns the putt into a simple underhanded toss where you don’t have to really think about it, you just “feel” it.
 
Miscellaneous (9 out of 10 points)
Everything about this putter is simple and sweet. From the gorgeous classic head shape to the counter balanced round grip. Heck, even the head cover is a beautiful stitched leather, with a strong magnet to keep it closed.

 

It’s also got a soft furry insides that snuggles the head with its warm hug. The actual fitting process with my fitter “Kevin” was the chord that made this putter into a song. That is what makes this putter, “the” putter.




Play it or Trade it? (20 out of 20 points)
There is absolutely no doubt, this putter will be in my bag till the day they pry it from my cold dead hands, ha-ha. One of the tightest choking points in golf is on the putting green, right? Having the clarity of mind that you know you can put down the roll you want, helps remove the sinister slice of self-doubt. In fact, what happens is that you actually start thinking you can make any putt, and you actually get bothered when you don’t 
I think this flat-stick benefits everyone who plays it, but in my mind, the deathly serious player is the guy this putter is tailor made for. It is made for the guy who has money on every stroke. It is made for the guy who understands the absolute need for perfect accuracy under pressure. This is the guy who doesn’t blink at a larger price tag, because he understands this is the one stick that gets hit more than every other stick in his bag. This is the putter that actually will shave a stroke or two off an already low index.



Conclusion
In conclusion, I couldn’t be any happier with a putter. I almost loved my Tommy Armor TA3, and I really liked my Evnroll ER3, but “Adele” completes me. It’s as close to an extension of my brain to my hand, like a simple underhanded toss can get. I see it, and the putter rolls it. Unfortunately my brain doesn’t always see correctly, but that’s not the putters fault. If I read it right, the putt has a very realistic chance of falling into the cup. The more I play, it seems the better my putting gets.
Sure the price tag is a bit shocking at first glance, but if you really think about it and what you get for your money, its not that bad.
Almost all the Scotty Camerons, and Evnrolls are over $300 right? Usually more I might add. Then, if you add in a custom fitting, that’s going to add an additional $150, so right there you’re at $450.
Now, can you honestly tell me that the driver in your bag didn’t cost a similar number? And do you hit your driver 30 times a round? Because you hit your putter that many time, give or take a few. And yes, we all know a 3” putt is equal to a 280 yard drive. Not as thrilling for sure, but the scorecard doesn’t know the difference.
If you are really serious about the game and would like a real chance at shaving a few strokes off the index, I think the Edel EAS system is a real way to achieve results, that doesn’t require a total relearning of how to swing a club. You will just aim better, and have a closer second putt. And fewer 3-putts will certainly result in lower scores right? 
 
FINAL SCORE  98 out of 100
This putter is as close to perfect as it gets. The reason a putter was invented was to hit the little ball into the hole. In order to do that you need to be able to aim it correctly, and then have the correct speed to make it all come together.
Your brain is the computer that programs the event and the Edel EAS putter is the tool that completes the process. If you are serious about the game, you owe yourself to give them a look.
**********
Some new stuff!
**********
The weight kit arrived!

It cost me $75, so I’m really hoping for some results. Today’s round was hot and dry, not my normal dewy morning with wet greens. They were tight and fast and I was going long. Tomorrow I’m expecting a similar day, so I’ll install a heavier weight that’s supposed to slow my stroke down. They are sized at 5, 10, 15, 20, 25 grams.


The stock one is 15 grams. It’s pretty interesting how much weight difference there really is between the 5 and the 25g weights.
they did come in a nice little zippered case that will stow easily in your bag, so you’re always ready for adjustments depending on what the practice green tells you before you’re round.


Its got a nifty little wrench included in the kit, so a quick weight change should be a snap. 

 

I’ll post some  thoughts after tomorrow’s round…
 
UPDATE….
so last week I played at a track with way faster greens, so I figured what a good time to try a heavier weight. So I pulled the 15g, and screwed in the 25g nugget. I didn’t really expect to notice much as c’mon, whats 10g right?
well lemme tell you! It felt significantly heavier. I honestly couldn’t believe it. So I figured what the heck, let’s go up to the practice green and see what it does. The first few rolls were tentative so I was a bit short, expecting the giant hammer of Thor to crush the ball. So then I just let it flow and it suddenly felt superb. I didn’t shoot lights out or anything, but my distance was excellent. 
 
so then I forgot all about it until this mornings round, which was chilly with a heavy dew on the greens. I putted ok, but was mad that I didn’t remember to change out the weight for a light one, as this is how they’re supposed to work. But, I’ll remember this tomorrow morning and try going light. It will be interesting to see how it works…
more to follow…
 
 

EDEL E.A.S. #4
The Official MyGolfSpy Forum Review by
Sluggo42
 
Looks (9 out of 10 points)

 
 I have always loved the “Fang” shape/style on a putter. The only other “fang” I ever owned was the good old Tommy Armor TA3, which coincidently also won “most wanted” mallet style putter a few times. That’s a great little putter, which i got for $79 from Dicks sporting goods a few years ago. 
The Edel E.A.S #4 is not a putter that jumps off the page when looking at it, but rather draws you in with the simplicity of its general unassuming presence.

The round grip is so simple and basic, yet it’s one of the secrets to its accuracy.

The hexagon dimpled face, and the alignment plate are really the only differentiating aspects from a really basic fang style putter.

I remember reading different articles when I was researching these putters, and I recall a few people having major problems with the alignment plates looks. And then claiming they would never use a putter with such an ugly plate.

 
It makes me laugh at how people can be so judgmental about something so trivial, when actually they might be the person who could really benefit from the system. Look at the pictures we are all posting and if you find the looks to be so bad that you wouldn’t use it, and then please tell me why in the comments section.
It’s clean and simple really, as seems to be the case with most of the classic clubs, like some good old Mizuno blades, right? The putter cover is a thing of beauty though, and the soft black rabbit fur on the inside is luxurious. (no real animals were harmed, and its not real rabbit fur….c’mon man!)
 
 
Sound & Feel (10 out of 10 points)
From the very first putt to the last putt I’ve taken since taking possession of “Adele”, this has been the best feeling, as well as an exceptionally good sounding as any putter that’s ever been in my bag. Its similar, yet slightly softer than may Evnroll, but has a very similar sound. It’s a solid knock that isn’t hollow or mushy in any way. Kind of how a forged blade feels on a flush strike, vs. a hollow filled club. It just tells you it was a clean strike.
 




Basic Characteristics (20 out of 20 points)
I spent an hour and a half on the practice green while getting fitted, so I had numerous putts as I was getting used to its feel and distance attributes. By the time my fitting was done I had already bonded to the club in an almost intimate way. 
My aim is true -  (Elvis Costello, 1977)
For once in my life with a putter, this is true. The ball actually goes where I aim. Point and shoot actually works now. 
Distance control now actually means something as I am rarely more then a few feet away for my second putt, the counter balancing in the grip creates this ability.
 
I will use this putter from the fringe almost always, unless I have sprinkler heads in my way. Its much more consistent than chipping for me.
 
On-Course Performance (30 out of 30 points)
This is where this putter shines. I wasn’t ever the greatest putter, and part of the fitting process showed at least one reason why. With the use of the reflective mirror on the putter face, and the laser pointer, it showed that I wasn’t seeing the proper aim to the cup. From about six feet, my aim was a foot off, again and again. Then, the same thing happened when I first started aiming with the Edel putter. Kevin, using a simple magic marker, kept changing the alignment marks until suddenly I was aiming straight at the hole, again and again. I guess everyones brain sees things slightly differently, so just one mark doesn’t necessarily work for everyone. 
So every round I was always missing many putts that I thought I should have been making, or at least be closer. 
I was always in that 34-36 putts per round. I used to laugh to myself when I would read fellow spies talking about sub 30 putt rounds and I always secretly thought they were full of it. 
And I would also like to stress that “putts per round” can be a very misleading stat, as there are so many variables involved with that stat..   Buuuttttt….
Then I suddenly started having sub-30 putt rounds, and I’m talking 26-27 putt rounds, and was scoring well too. But even if I had a round in the 80’s I was still way under 36 putts. I started making some of the 6-8 footers that were a guaranteed miss before. 
 As always, the most difficult putt is the pressure putt. In fact, they came up with a name for it, they call it the yips. Most everyone has experienced the feeling. A 4 footer to win the day, and you pull it left. Dad gummit! It happens in even the best of families. The best cure is being absolutely sure your put will go by simply trusting your aim to be true and letting it happen. 
This putter will give you that trust, and the more putts you make, the more you trust in it. It’s a win-win. I’ve made more pressure putts with Adele, than I ever made with my previous putters. And that is because, I was never really sure of my aim before. Now I am much more sure of my aim, and that’s the first half of the equation. Now I need to just make a pure stroke, and it’s in. If I mess that up its on me, and not the putter.
The final analysis is that I am indeed making more putts. 
 
I never really knew much about the Edel company, and always thought of them as more of a boutique company that made a higher quality club. The E.A.S. putter has done nothing but reinforce this thought. Edel make good stuff, period
It seems these days that there is always some way to improve something with next years model right? But sometimes they get it right and there isn’t really any reason to change. It is my opinion that the E.A.S #4 is correct right now. Don’t change a thing, and just keep making putts.
What I love about this putter is in 3 areas. 
 
1. the round grip - It forces me to really look at the face and alignment plate to get the correct aim
2. the alignment plate - thru trial and error, its the one that allows MY brain to aim correctly
3. the counter balanced grip – It has been perfectly balanced to allow MY brain to choose how far I’m going to hit the ball. 
I think the really cool deal with this putter is that its structured to allow your brain to do the putt programming subconsciously, and it turns the putt into a simple underhanded toss where you don’t have to really think about it, you just “feel” it.
 
Miscellaneous (9 out of 10 points)
Everything about this putter is simple and sweet. From the gorgeous classic head shape to the counter balanced round grip. Heck, even the head cover is a beautiful stitched leather, with a strong magnet to keep it closed.

 

It’s also got a soft furry insides that snuggles the head with its warm hug. The actual fitting process with my fitter “Kevin” was the chord that made this putter into a song. That is what makes this putter, “the” putter.




Play it or Trade it? (20 out of 20 points)
There is absolutely no doubt, this putter will be in my bag till the day they pry it from my cold dead hands, ha-ha. One of the tightest choking points in golf is on the putting green, right? Having the clarity of mind that you know you can put down the roll you want, helps remove the sinister slice of self-doubt. In fact, what happens is that you actually start thinking you can make any putt, and you actually get bothered when you don’t 
I think this flat-stick benefits everyone who plays it, but in my mind, the deathly serious player is the guy this putter is tailor made for. It is made for the guy who has money on every stroke. It is made for the guy who understands the absolute need for perfect accuracy under pressure. This is the guy who doesn’t blink at a larger price tag, because he understands this is the one stick that gets hit more than every other stick in his bag. This is the putter that actually will shave a stroke or two off an already low index.



Conclusion
In conclusion, I couldn’t be any happier with a putter. I almost loved my Tommy Armor TA3, and I really liked my Evnroll ER3, but “Adele” completes me. It’s as close to an extension of my brain to my hand, like a simple underhanded toss can get. I see it, and the putter rolls it. Unfortunately my brain doesn’t always see correctly, but that’s not the putters fault. If I read it right, the putt has a very realistic chance of falling into the cup. The more I play, it seems the better my putting gets.
Sure the price tag is a bit shocking at first glance, but if you really think about it and what you get for your money, its not that bad.
Almost all the Scotty Camerons, and Evnrolls are over $300 right? Usually more I might add. Then, if you add in a custom fitting, that’s going to add an additional $150, so right there you’re at $450.
Now, can you honestly tell me that the driver in your bag didn’t cost a similar number? And do you hit your driver 30 times a round? Because you hit your putter that many time, give or take a few. And yes, we all know a 3” putt is equal to a 280 yard drive. Not as thrilling for sure, but the scorecard doesn’t know the difference.
If you are really serious about the game and would like a real chance at shaving a few strokes off the index, I think the Edel EAS system is a real way to achieve results, that doesn’t require a total relearning of how to swing a club. You will just aim better, and have a closer second putt. And fewer 3-putts will certainly result in lower scores right? 
 
FINAL SCORE  98 out of 100
This putter is as close to perfect as it gets. The reason a putter was invented was to hit the little ball into the hole. In order to do that you need to be able to aim it correctly, and then have the correct speed to make it all come together.
Your brain is the computer that programs the event and the Edel EAS putter is the tool that completes the process. If you are serious about the game, you owe yourself to give them a look.
**********
Some new stuff!
**********
The weight kit arrived!

It cost me $75, so I’m really hoping for some results. Today’s round was hot and dry, not my normal dewy morning with wet greens. They were tight and fast and I was going long. Tomorrow I’m expecting a similar day, so I’ll install a heavier weight that’s supposed to slow my stroke down. They are sized at 5, 10, 15, 20, 25 grams.


The stock one is 15 grams. It’s pretty interesting how much weight difference there really is between the 5 and the 25g weights.
they did come in a nice little zippered case that will stow easily in your bag, so you’re always ready for adjustments depending on what the practice green tells you before you’re round.


Its got a nifty little wrench included in the kit, so a quick weight change should be a snap. 

 

I’ll post some  thoughts after tomorrow’s round…
 
UPDATE….
so last week I played at a track with way faster greens, so I figured what a good time to try a heavier weight. So I pulled the 15g, and screwed in the 25g nugget. I didn’t really expect to notice much as c’mon, whats 10g right?
well lemme tell you! It felt significantly heavier. I honestly couldn’t believe it. So I figured what the heck, let’s go up to the practice green and see what it does. The first few rolls were tentative so I was a bit short, expecting the giant hammer of Thor to crush the ball. So then I just let it flow and it suddenly felt superb. I didn’t shoot lights out or anything, but my distance was excellent. 
 
so then I forgot all about it until this mornings round, which was chilly with a heavy dew on the greens. I putted ok, but was mad that I didn’t remember to change out the weight for a light one, as this is how they’re supposed to work. But, I’ll remember this tomorrow morning and try going light. It will be interesting to see how it works…
more to follow…
 
 

Hello fellow spies! First off I would like to thank MyGolfSpy and Edel for allowing me an opportunity to be fit for the first time for any club in my bag and have a chance at improving my putting game.  I have been playing this crazy game we all love and hate sometimes for over 20+ years and play to about a 15 handicap.  I would consider my putting game to be the strong part of my game even though I average about 36 putts a round, so I can't wait to see how getting properly fit will improve my putting statistics.  First impressions of the Edel EAS 4.0 putter I was fit for; I love the overall shape as it is not a overly large head but on the other hand it does not look like a premium putter in my opinion and unsure if some golfers will pay the premium price for it.  I might have to consider a custom paint job once my review is completed 👍.  Now on to the fun part....testing, stay tuned. 

Stage Two/Final Review
Edel EAS 1.0 Puttter – Official MGS Forum Review by Stuart Marler (AZstu324)

As we’re all concluding our Stage 2 reviews and final words, I’ll say that this is probably the most difficult test that I’ve been involved with for MGS. To quantify the performance-related qualities and improvements from one putter to the next, was quite the task. In order to formulate a baseline of what I’m looking to accomplish, I asked 10 people this simple question:
What makes a good putter?
The most common answers were the following: Feels good off the face, Soft feeling, looks and feels good, gives me confidence, Enough weight in the head, gets the ball rolling quickly, made for my putting stroke i.e. Straight back and forward, Slight/moderate/strong arc, etc.
The common theme here was that all of the answers were really just regurgitated marketing specs we see bottled up and sold with the stock floor putters that we mostly find at the box stores. Sure, good feeling and looks are important, and performance is equated to feel and the ability to get the ball rolling, but is that all that people look for when trying to find the perfect putter that will help shave strokes off their game?
Not all putters are created equal. That’s a fact. What I found out through this specific test is that most putters aren’t even created for the person using them. Sure, they might look and feel nice and make the user excited about using them, but that is about as far as it goes for the most part. Before the testing began, I was certain that my "previous" (spoiler alert) gamer was as good as a putter could get. It felt soft and looked really nice. With plenty of practice, I was feeling pretty confident with most putts inside the 5’ range. Anything 8’ and longer, to me was just a “close your eyes and hit the ball” range. I didn’t understand until now that even 30 foot putts can be approached with confidence given the putter is fitted and built correctly.
 
Looks (9 out of 10 points) 
General Shape: The EAS 1.0 is a traditional “Anser” style putter head. It’s probably the most timeless and recognized design that you will find in production. The Anser was originally designed by Karsten Solheim (Ping) in 1966 and has become the brand name that everyone specifically correlates to an object.. like Q-tip, BandAid, or Chap-Stick, “Anser” is the common rectangle cavity-back style putter with the weight pushed out to both the toe and heel.  
Graphics & aesthetics: Edel did a great job at keeping top portion sleek and clean while adding some nice and unique touches to the bottom. The EAS 1.0 is just slightly oversized but nothing dramatic and is absolutely a work of art within itself.


How does the overall look come together?: From the finish of the steel, to the various milling patterns on the face and bottom, to the color choice of almost blood red and black highlights, the look of the putter is stunning. It kind of reminds me of a modified and restored classic car (Resto-mod). It’s got timeless lines and a very classic elegance. Under the hood and at the 4 corners however, the thing is juiced up with the most modern tech to help it perform way outside of its classic presence. It’s a true sleeper and I love that about it!
Appearance compared to other similar clubs: The appearance is what I would say is the least attractive selling-point about the putter. I don’t mean that in any way as a knock. The putter looks fantastic in every way that a putter should look but it’s not in any way calling out for attention. I’ve played with numerous people over the past couple of months and not one has asked what putter I’m using. Sure I get a lot of “great putt!” “Nice roll” “awesome lag” “great read!”, but not once have I caught anybody eyeballing my putter to see what instrument I’m wielding to execute such shots. Again, another testament to how little people actually correlate good putting to custom fit and built putters. It’s almost like it’s still the unknown in the golf equipment and fitting realm.
Other unique details (i.e. alignment aids, coloring, blur, etc.): As we’ve all mentioned in our initial write-ups, the Edel EAS putter isn’t just a putter. It’s an experience. Each of us worked with a fitter in person and were assigned alignment inserts based on our individual tendencies. My alignment insert was the “plug socket”. It consists of 2 lines toward the face and 1 line toward the back. This is supposed to help neutralize my setup as I had a tendency to aim slightly left and push a hair right to compensate.
 
Sound & Feel (10 out of 10 points)
 
The Edel EAS, at least the 1.0 has 2 different sounds and feelings. Similar to a good set of forged blades, this putter provides adequate audible and sensory feedback that corelates to how the ball was struck. Too much toward the toe or heel and you get a clicky tick off the face. Being that that entire putter from the butt of the handle to the floor is more “connected” with counter-weights and just overall more substantial build materials, you get some really good sensory feedback when you’re not hitting the center. Off-center hits offer a less than optimal feeling but I can actually appreciate that as it really lets you know you need to get your act together. I’ve also found that even strikes with the face too lofted or de-lofted provide the same type of clicky feedback.
A strike on the center plate of the face however, and delivered at the correct angle, provide a sound and feeling that is ultra-satisfying. It’s not so soft that the feeling and sound is muted, but more a semi-soft knock with the ball springing off the face with a very reactive and pure roll. Overall I actually appreciate the sensory feedback as this allows me to make appropriate adjustments throughout the round to find and maintain my best putting stroke when things start out a little sideways on the green.
 
Basic Characteristics (18 out of 20 points)
Accuracy: Of course, accuracy when talking about a putter can be extremely subjective. After all, a putter (or any club for that matter) is only as accurate as the stroke used to swing it. When the stroke is true and natural, the putter is a laser beam. When the stroke or setup is off, the putter provides every bit of feedback needed to bring everything back into a harmonious rhythm.
Distance Control: This is something that I have been gushing about from the get go. Lag putting has always been somewhat of a mystery to me. “How am I supposed to roll a ball 15’, 20’, 30’ across the green and have any control over where it stops?”. The reason I always had issues with this is because I was using a putter(s) that would get lost through a substantial swing and I just didn’t have any way to know how far to move back and then forward. With a perfectly fit and constructed putter like the Edel EAS, I feel the whole putter through the entire stoke. 
Stability of Stroke: This is where the concept of "counter" and "torque" balancing really shows up to present itself. The concept of torque balancing suggests that we shouldn't be putting so much emphasis on the various different stroke characteristics each player applies i.e SB/SF or various arc, but argues that there really should be only 1 effective stroke that everyone should be using. That's is a straight forward and straight back swing. Traditional methods however, state that not everybody's biomechanics are suited for a SF/SB swing, therefore the need for various balancing characteristics in traditional putters. Torque balancing along with proper putter construction for the individual, should allow each person the ability to apply a SB/SF putting stroke without having to manipulate their swing movements. 
Forgiveness: As I mentioned in the “Feel/Sound” section, the putter offers some great sensory feedback when a less than quality stroke and/or strike is put on the ball. What I’ll add in this section though is that direction and distance suffer very little. It’s like a parent telling a child, what they did was wrong but without actually punishing them for behaving badly. In the end, the kid gets away Scott free.. and so does the person using this putter in many instances. 
 
On-Course Performance (28 out of 30 points)
This is the area that I think was the most difficult to quantify. I use a Garmin Vivoactive 3 watch with a really great golf app. This keeps track of all of my stats from tee to green. Before starting this testing process, my average putts per round were regularly in the mid 30’s. My average score per round was roughly 10-15 over par. Almost from the moment that I put the Edel EAS into play, my average PPR have dropped drastically from 2.4 putts to 1.6 avg. That’s pretty drastic when you figure that the difference between 34 putts and 29 putts is 5 strokes gained per round without improving any other areas of my game.
 
Final Performance Comments:
Pressure: When I’ve got the Edel in my hands and I’m lining up and scoping out a putt, It’s almost like I’m saying “c’mon, WE can do this” as if we’re working as a team. I don’t think I’ve quite kindled that kind of relationship with any other club in my bag. Maybe it’s weird.. but that’s the kind of connection I’ve come to form with this putter.  
Overall I’m pleased with everything that this putter brings to the table. Look, sound, feel, performance.. it’s all there and I wouldn’t change a thing. The subtle uniqueness and Edel-specific design queues are right up my alley.
Anything Missing?: If I were held at gunpoint to come up with a single item that I don’t quite find to be in line with the rest of the putter, I would say the alignment plate. The different alignment options are truly essential to the custom Edel process. The plate and it’s attachment method might use a hair more refinement. There are tiny gaps that sometimes get grains of sand trapped inside and I’ve had to go in with a needle to clean them out. I don’t know enough about the manufacturing process but if it were possible to custom mill the alignment aids upon order, but that might help clean things up a hair. That said, I understand that over time, it may be necessary to change the alignment aid so that would defeat that purpose of interchangeable plates. Again, this is a splitting hairs kind of thing and wouldn’t deter me in the slightest.
Did it help improve your scores?: Did my scores improve? Yes. Was it because of the putter? No. For what it’s worth, I would say that the putter itself didn’t improve my scores, but IMO, it’s not as simple as putting a putter in my hands that magically makes putts from any distance. As a reminder, the Edel EAS is not just a putter but it’s an experience, a system, a process. While the putter itself won’t make all of the putts magically drop, what it does do is influence the player to practice regularly, instill confidence, calm the nerves and become better acquainted with the most important club in the bag
How, if at all, did this product change your overall impression of Edel?: I’ve known of Edel for a few years now. A while back when I ventured down the “single length” rabbit hole, Edel was at the forefront of the charge to push the concept. When a young kid named Bryson DeChambeau came onto the scene, he was geared up with Edel single length clubs. Like other individual designers in the industry such as Ralph Maltby and Tom Wishon, David Edel is what you get when you cross a genius, mad scientist, and golf enthusiast, and a guy who just doesn't give a spit about what the rest of the mainstream world says golf needs to be..  and the products that he creates are truly unique AND packed with performance to back up the claims.
 
Miscellaneous (10 out of 10 points)
Of course, this is where I’m supposed to talk about subtle differences that set this putter aside from the rest. What I really what to emphasize (again) is that owning an Edel putter isn’t just owning a putter. Sure you can own a Scotty, a Ping, an EVNROLL, Even a Bettinardi, and many other names out there. And yes, there are a lot of good putters that you can buy off the shelf, and customize, modify, etc. When you own an Edel however, and go through the fitting process, have the club built specifically for you by Edel, and then shipped directly from Liberty Hill, TX to your doorstep, you’re making a personal statement and commitment to improving as a golfer. Showing a commitment and willingness to putting in the work needed to reach that next level of personal playing performance.  
 
Play it or Trade it? (19 out of 20 points)
Play it, Play it, Play it! As an official Edel Club inductee, I now feel an obligation and responsibility to wield this club with pride, respect, and honor, both for the brand and for the goodness of the game. Yeah those are a lot of goofy, overly dramatic words, but this is exactly the spirit that Edel as a company upholds with every club that it offers. It’s more than just a brand. Brands are sold at retail stores. Edel defines those who are in pursuit of the purity of the sport in a world where flash, and overly complicated tech and design can start to muddle what we’re all really after. Don’t get me wrong, performance tech and evolution are still an important part of the game we’re all here to celebrate, but Edel has far from forgotten that tradition and history is still very much a part of what makes this game so great and they continue to bind history and tradition with Evolution and modern tech.   
Conclusion
To wrap this all up, I just wanted to throw in one final thought. During the testing process, I had considered taking my current gamer and making similar adjustments. It was even requested by a few followers. My thought was that I could add weight down the shaft, extend the shaft 2”, throw some lead tape on the head, and get a heavier grip to counter balance the butt section. Ultimately, as I thought more about doing that, I also thought more about how much of a Frankenputter I would end up with and wasn’t completely sure if I would be doing it accurately. I also remembered that the purpose of this entire test was to compare a shock “shelf” putter to that which Edel offers. That in itself is a testament to what the overall experience encompasses when working with Edel and a custom fitter. You buy a “shelf” putter from Edel and you're getting the entire experience. They’re building the club according to my individual fitting specs and they’re all truly professionals at what they do from the fitter to the builder. The end product is clean and all of the tech is tucked and disguised nicely under the hood. What you end up with is a 100% custom-spec’d and crafted putter. I use the word crafted because that’s really what Edel is doing for the individual. They are making 1-off models for each person who places an order and that’s absolutely worth every penny spent!
 
Final Score: 94/100
 
The rating system doesn't allow for 1/2 stars so lets say I'm giving this a solid 4.5 stars instead of 4. 
To start this off, I'd like to give an immense thank you to both MGS and Edel for creating this opportunity. The chance for a select few of us to be part of something that not too many people will get to do in their golfing life and that is being fully fit for a custom-built putter. Before coming into this, my experience with putter fitting was limited to the following: you putt with too much toe hang so pick another putter that's more upright. OK now you have an arc in your stroke.. you get a blade. Ok which grip do you like.. ok there's your "putter fitting". 
MY GAME
I've been playing golf for nearly 30 years. for 25 of those I pretty much had no Idea what I was doing. It really wasn't until I stumbled upon the MGS community that I started to really take the game more seriously and actually start to study it. Over the years, I've come to rely on the MGS community for so many golf and non-golf related topics so much that I wear it on my sleeve.. well my bag anyway. I'm 100% self-taught but claim to have a decent enough eye and understanding of mechanics to be able to emulate and repeat what I see on TV and YouTube. According to my Garmin Golf stat tracker, I'm a 3.4 index.. but for starters, that's not an established handicap as I technically don't have one. And that's me playing my 80% of my rounds at my executive course where I'm a member and I know every nook and cranny. Most full-length courses that I play, I shoot high 70's to low 80's so I'm giving myself a more realistic handicap of around 8. That said, I'm hoping that one day I'll be able to be involved with a program similar to what GOFTEC offers and have some proper swing analysis and training. 

 
MY PUTTING
Up until the last year, putting has really been a wall of frustration for me. I remember looking back at rounds in the high 80's thinking that if I had made all of those 3 footers.. or even 1-2 footers, I'd be 6 strokes lower. With the Pandemic and having more time at home, I decided to go all-in on putting practice and learn more about my stroke and build more confidence with the putter. I put in some decent time with the putting mat trying to create a solid repeatable putting stroke as well as feeling more comfortable with a putter in my hand. The putting practice paid off and I was no longer fearing those "should make" 1-2-3 footers. I have still had my struggles however with distance control and alignment. For starters, I've found that with my current putter (Cleveland HB Premier #4) anything outside of 12', the feel of the head seems to get lost and I'm unable to put a proper roll on the ball without seeing less than optimal skips and bounces. Another issue is getting my putt property lined up with my intended direction. Hitting a straight putt isn't the problem.. so much as being properly squared up with my intended line. So I'm hopeful that with all of the tech that goes into this putter, I'll start to see these areas improve. 

THE PUTTER
The putter showed up well-packaged in a quite secure and stout Edel branded box. After watching @GolfSpy MPR's unboxing, I was thinking maybe I'd be seeing a weight kit with the putter. I didn't get a weight kit... But that's actually VERY OK by me. The last thing that I need is a means by which to mess up my whole fitting by giving me extra weights to mess with.. because if you give me matches.. I will burn myself. 


I did however find that in addition to the putter, Edel did include a nice little gift. I'm very much a hat guy and the hat they sent me was right up my alley! Right color, right style, very unbranded but specific to Edel. It's one of those "in the club" type of hats and I love it!


THE PUTTER
The putter itself is noticeably heavier. Based on the specs of how the putter was fit and built, I'd speculate that it's a good 100g+ heavier than my Cleveland HB Premier #4. The grip section alone has an 80g grip with a 40g counter-weight.  The shaft is counter-balanced with 30g. 


As you can see, per the spec sheet above and pics, I was fit with the EAS 1.0.  As I mentioned previously though, per the Blast Motion software, my typical contact is .2 to.4* open at impact. When I'm pushing, it goes to about .5 to .6* open. My fitter Aram at Golf-Tec mentioned that this is relatively neutral compared to most. Within 10', even .5* open is going to go in given my aim point and read is accurate. So while I was never fit into a blade (Answer) style putter, I was able to determine for myself over the past year that it really is the best fit for my setup. I have a tendency to aim slightly to the left as the blade-style putter looks a little more open to my eye and my miss is typically a slight push so in theory, while I'm aimed left, I'm pushing straight down the target line. 
As for my specific specs, and how my weaknesses were addressed without causing me to lose my strengths: The putter was built at 36" with a lie of 74*. For comparison, my Cleveland was 34" and sat at about 70*. Aram wanted to get me slightly more upright in my stance but more importantly move me closer to the ball as to allow my arms to hang without becoming disconnected from my body. In doing the ball drop test I was typically in the right spot with my eyes just slightly behind the ball, but I was just way too bent over and standing much too far away from the ball. Another point relating to my biomechanics was that I was also putting with the butt end much too close to my hips which also forced a lot of my shoulder and body rotation as everything was kind of stuck inside and rotating everything was really the only way that I could get the putter to work. In other words, my arc was pretty severe and just needed to be tamed down. 

As for the hosel, I was fit with the "back-set" option. This is something that I'm definitely going to have to spend some time with getting used to. In David Edel's words, its pretty much a left-handed forward set on a right handed head. Most of us are used to seeing some variation of forward-set hosel, especially with mallet style putters. The look of the Back-set is that of the putter head sitting slightly in front of the hands at address. This is another fitting trick to help neutralize the open face a little as well as tame a little bit of the arc in the putting stroke. As you can see from the pics, this creates the perfect toe-up or "torque-balancing" that the Edel putters are really making a strong charge for in the putter space. 



The overall weighting and counter weighting is also something that's very different to me, and not what I'm used to a putter feeling like in my hands. Aside from the hefty 80g rubber grip, there is a 40g counter weight and a 30g shaft weight. As you can see in the photo above, this brings the total weight to a stout 619g vs the pretty standard 497g Cleveland #4. As @GolfSpy MPR mentioned in his post, the club seems strangely but very appropriately heavily weighted. One of my weak spots was my tempo through the putt being much too quick. I would have a good pace going back but then speed up through impact and this was a major culprit to my distance control.. or lack thereof. If the head alone feels too heavy, the tendency is to rush it through impact. After spending quite a lot of time indoors with the putting mat and working with a metronome at about 100 BPM, I'm really finding the benefit of all of the counter balancing. The ability to move all of that evenly distributed mass at a more even tempo really seems to work well for that distance control. 
Alignment: I was fit with 2 lines up front and 1 in the back. I really liked how the 2 up front frame the ball while the 1 in back helps to concentrate on getting my eyes in the right spot over the ball. 


I did have a chance to take the putter for a spin on Saturday at a 2 person scramble. That was literally after unboxing it Friday and hitting about 20 putts with it before going to bed. I'm not really going to count that as its 1st real round as I hadn't even had time to even acquaint myself with it. I just went in with my normal setup, same stance, grip pressure and tried to formulate a stroke throughout the round. So basically my game plan was.. no game plan. While I didn't putt my best round (putts within 10' were hit and miss, and I missed more 3 footers than I'd care to admit) what I did notice was that my lag putting and distance control was off the charts fantastic! Lag putting was something that I had struggled with, with the Cleveland. Anything outside of 15' was just typically "close my eyes, swing, and pray to the golf gods that I'd be within 5-10'. The problem that I was having was that I just couldn't generate enough controllable force without skipping the ball a good 4 or 5 times before it took to rolling. I had quite a few lengthy putts that not only were within 5' but some were well within 3'. I attribute this to having more mass with more momentum, but also having more control of all of the mass and not the feeling of the club disappearing in my hands when having to apply a lengthy stroke. 
Here are just a few more pics of the putter as well as the Cleveland HB #4. As you can all see, this is a beautifully crafter putter. 


 
 



INTRO CONCLUSION
My intensions throughout this test are to do do a few different things. One of the interesting bits about the putter testing experience is that there's not much of a roadmap to follow. Sure there are plenty of driver and iron testing examples to draw from but the putter is something that relatively limited.. and especially with the custom-fitting piece added. 
What I hope to accomplish:
Reduce my average PPR from around 34 to below 30. 
Quantify the difference (improvements or decline) with real numbers
Help others justify if paying the difference in price and going through the process is really worth it
 

EDEL E.A.S. #4
The Official MyGolfSpy Forum Review by
Sluggo42
 
Looks (9 out of 10 points)

 
 I have always loved the “Fang” shape/style on a putter. The only other “fang” I ever owned was the good old Tommy Armor TA3, which coincidently also won “most wanted” mallet style putter a few times. That’s a great little putter, which i got for $79 from Dicks sporting goods a few years ago. 
The Edel E.A.S #4 is not a putter that jumps off the page when looking at it, but rather draws you in with the simplicity of its general unassuming presence.

The round grip is so simple and basic, yet it’s one of the secrets to its accuracy.

The hexagon dimpled face, and the alignment plate are really the only differentiating aspects from a really basic fang style putter.

I remember reading different articles when I was researching these putters, and I recall a few people having major problems with the alignment plates looks. And then claiming they would never use a putter with such an ugly plate.

 
It makes me laugh at how people can be so judgmental about something so trivial, when actually they might be the person who could really benefit from the system. Look at the pictures we are all posting and if you find the looks to be so bad that you wouldn’t use it, and then please tell me why in the comments section.
It’s clean and simple really, as seems to be the case with most of the classic clubs, like some good old Mizuno blades, right? The putter cover is a thing of beauty though, and the soft black rabbit fur on the inside is luxurious. (no real animals were harmed, and its not real rabbit fur….c’mon man!)
 
 
Sound & Feel (10 out of 10 points)
From the very first putt to the last putt I’ve taken since taking possession of “Adele”, this has been the best feeling, as well as an exceptionally good sounding as any putter that’s ever been in my bag. Its similar, yet slightly softer than may Evnroll, but has a very similar sound. It’s a solid knock that isn’t hollow or mushy in any way. Kind of how a forged blade feels on a flush strike, vs. a hollow filled club. It just tells you it was a clean strike.
 




Basic Characteristics (20 out of 20 points)
I spent an hour and a half on the practice green while getting fitted, so I had numerous putts as I was getting used to its feel and distance attributes. By the time my fitting was done I had already bonded to the club in an almost intimate way. 
My aim is true -  (Elvis Costello, 1977)
For once in my life with a putter, this is true. The ball actually goes where I aim. Point and shoot actually works now. 
Distance control now actually means something as I am rarely more then a few feet away for my second putt, the counter balancing in the grip creates this ability.
 
I will use this putter from the fringe almost always, unless I have sprinkler heads in my way. Its much more consistent than chipping for me.
 
On-Course Performance (30 out of 30 points)
This is where this putter shines. I wasn’t ever the greatest putter, and part of the fitting process showed at least one reason why. With the use of the reflective mirror on the putter face, and the laser pointer, it showed that I wasn’t seeing the proper aim to the cup. From about six feet, my aim was a foot off, again and again. Then, the same thing happened when I first started aiming with the Edel putter. Kevin, using a simple magic marker, kept changing the alignment marks until suddenly I was aiming straight at the hole, again and again. I guess everyones brain sees things slightly differently, so just one mark doesn’t necessarily work for everyone. 
So every round I was always missing many putts that I thought I should have been making, or at least be closer. 
I was always in that 34-36 putts per round. I used to laugh to myself when I would read fellow spies talking about sub 30 putt rounds and I always secretly thought they were full of it. 
And I would also like to stress that “putts per round” can be a very misleading stat, as there are so many variables involved with that stat..   Buuuttttt….
Then I suddenly started having sub-30 putt rounds, and I’m talking 26-27 putt rounds, and was scoring well too. But even if I had a round in the 80’s I was still way under 36 putts. I started making some of the 6-8 footers that were a guaranteed miss before. 
 As always, the most difficult putt is the pressure putt. In fact, they came up with a name for it, they call it the yips. Most everyone has experienced the feeling. A 4 footer to win the day, and you pull it left. Dad gummit! It happens in even the best of families. The best cure is being absolutely sure your put will go by simply trusting your aim to be true and letting it happen. 
This putter will give you that trust, and the more putts you make, the more you trust in it. It’s a win-win. I’ve made more pressure putts with Adele, than I ever made with my previous putters. And that is because, I was never really sure of my aim before. Now I am much more sure of my aim, and that’s the first half of the equation. Now I need to just make a pure stroke, and it’s in. If I mess that up its on me, and not the putter.
The final analysis is that I am indeed making more putts. 
 
I never really knew much about the Edel company, and always thought of them as more of a boutique company that made a higher quality club. The E.A.S. putter has done nothing but reinforce this thought. Edel make good stuff, period
It seems these days that there is always some way to improve something with next years model right? But sometimes they get it right and there isn’t really any reason to change. It is my opinion that the E.A.S #4 is correct right now. Don’t change a thing, and just keep making putts.
What I love about this putter is in 3 areas. 
 
1. the round grip - It forces me to really look at the face and alignment plate to get the correct aim
2. the alignment plate - thru trial and error, its the one that allows MY brain to aim correctly
3. the counter balanced grip – It has been perfectly balanced to allow MY brain to choose how far I’m going to hit the ball. 
I think the really cool deal with this putter is that its structured to allow your brain to do the putt programming subconsciously, and it turns the putt into a simple underhanded toss where you don’t have to really think about it, you just “feel” it.
 
Miscellaneous (9 out of 10 points)
Everything about this putter is simple and sweet. From the gorgeous classic head shape to the counter balanced round grip. Heck, even the head cover is a beautiful stitched leather, with a strong magnet to keep it closed.

 

It’s also got a soft furry insides that snuggles the head with its warm hug. The actual fitting process with my fitter “Kevin” was the chord that made this putter into a song. That is what makes this putter, “the” putter.




Play it or Trade it? (20 out of 20 points)
There is absolutely no doubt, this putter will be in my bag till the day they pry it from my cold dead hands, ha-ha. One of the tightest choking points in golf is on the putting green, right? Having the clarity of mind that you know you can put down the roll you want, helps remove the sinister slice of self-doubt. In fact, what happens is that you actually start thinking you can make any putt, and you actually get bothered when you don’t 
I think this flat-stick benefits everyone who plays it, but in my mind, the deathly serious player is the guy this putter is tailor made for. It is made for the guy who has money on every stroke. It is made for the guy who understands the absolute need for perfect accuracy under pressure. This is the guy who doesn’t blink at a larger price tag, because he understands this is the one stick that gets hit more than every other stick in his bag. This is the putter that actually will shave a stroke or two off an already low index.



Conclusion
In conclusion, I couldn’t be any happier with a putter. I almost loved my Tommy Armor TA3, and I really liked my Evnroll ER3, but “Adele” completes me. It’s as close to an extension of my brain to my hand, like a simple underhanded toss can get. I see it, and the putter rolls it. Unfortunately my brain doesn’t always see correctly, but that’s not the putters fault. If I read it right, the putt has a very realistic chance of falling into the cup. The more I play, it seems the better my putting gets.
Sure the price tag is a bit shocking at first glance, but if you really think about it and what you get for your money, its not that bad.
Almost all the Scotty Camerons, and Evnrolls are over $300 right? Usually more I might add. Then, if you add in a custom fitting, that’s going to add an additional $150, so right there you’re at $450.
Now, can you honestly tell me that the driver in your bag didn’t cost a similar number? And do you hit your driver 30 times a round? Because you hit your putter that many time, give or take a few. And yes, we all know a 3” putt is equal to a 280 yard drive. Not as thrilling for sure, but the scorecard doesn’t know the difference.
If you are really serious about the game and would like a real chance at shaving a few strokes off the index, I think the Edel EAS system is a real way to achieve results, that doesn’t require a total relearning of how to swing a club. You will just aim better, and have a closer second putt. And fewer 3-putts will certainly result in lower scores right? 
 
FINAL SCORE  98 out of 100
This putter is as close to perfect as it gets. The reason a putter was invented was to hit the little ball into the hole. In order to do that you need to be able to aim it correctly, and then have the correct speed to make it all come together.
Your brain is the computer that programs the event and the Edel EAS putter is the tool that completes the process. If you are serious about the game, you owe yourself to give them a look.
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Some new stuff!
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The weight kit arrived!

It cost me $75, so I’m really hoping for some results. Today’s round was hot and dry, not my normal dewy morning with wet greens. They were tight and fast and I was going long. Tomorrow I’m expecting a similar day, so I’ll install a heavier weight that’s supposed to slow my stroke down. They are sized at 5, 10, 15, 20, 25 grams.


The stock one is 15 grams. It’s pretty interesting how much weight difference there really is between the 5 and the 25g weights.
they did come in a nice little zippered case that will stow easily in your bag, so you’re always ready for adjustments depending on what the practice green tells you before you’re round.


Its got a nifty little wrench included in the kit, so a quick weight change should be a snap. 

 

I’ll post some  thoughts after tomorrow’s round…
 
UPDATE….
so last week I played at a track with way faster greens, so I figured what a good time to try a heavier weight. So I pulled the 15g, and screwed in the 25g nugget. I didn’t really expect to notice much as c’mon, whats 10g right?
well lemme tell you! It felt significantly heavier. I honestly couldn’t believe it. So I figured what the heck, let’s go up to the practice green and see what it does. The first few rolls were tentative so I was a bit short, expecting the giant hammer of Thor to crush the ball. So then I just let it flow and it suddenly felt superb. I didn’t shoot lights out or anything, but my distance was excellent. 
 
so then I forgot all about it until this mornings round, which was chilly with a heavy dew on the greens. I putted ok, but was mad that I didn’t remember to change out the weight for a light one, as this is how they’re supposed to work. But, I’ll remember this tomorrow morning and try going light. It will be interesting to see how it works…
more to follow…