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  1. 22 hours ago, GolfSpy Stroker said:

    @GolfSpy Barbajo has some Edison wedges as well and really likes them - feel free to PM him about them

     

    23 hours ago, Kenny B said:

    If you like the SCORs, you'll like the Edisons.  I bought one at 49º to replace my 50º SCOR.  Personally, I can't tell any difference.  TK says lower flight, spins more than other Tour wedges, but I probably don't have enough swing speed.  He never mentioned how the Edison compares to the SCOR, but with the weight distribution, his claims seem reasonable.  

    Talk to @Josh Ross.  He bought a set of Edison wedges and seemed to like them last I heard.

    Have a set of Edisons - 49-53-57 degrees.  Like them very, very much. Great forged feel and they spin like crazy. Terry Koehler touts the fact they have more mass high, which is where we mere mortals tend to miss. He's definitely on to something because that's the same thing Cleveland/Callaway has taken with their CBX-type wedges, and it reflects the changes Cleveland made to the ZipCore line - maybe not as extreme, but the same basic idea. 

    Terry's an interesting dude - people either love him or hate him, and I think he's fine with that. He'll tell you what he thinks and leave it up to you to, which is pretty much all you can ask. Other than that, all I can say is I like the wedges, although they're not my favorite in the sand. For that, I still love my old Hogan Riviera.

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  2. 18 hours ago, huskie55 said:

    im not familiar with the 90 compression ball is that the STAFF MODEL?

     

    Are you saying another tour ball??

     

    thanks

    Yep - that's the Staff Model ball at around 97 compression.  The new ball is going to be very interesting to say the least. It's fair to say it's probably something that has never been done in modern times. And it's sure to be a bit, uhhh, polarizing.  

    Now there's a tease for you....

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  3. Update -- look for a V6 replacement to be announced fairly soon, with D7 replacements in mid-January.  Also something interesting in the ball category by the middle of next month. 

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  4. 9 hours ago, AH1980MN said:

    Great- so now that I've set my sights on D7 forged and am waiting "patiently" for prices to come down, there's a V6 replacement coming?! Different categories, I know, but it seems I'm on the fence in many categories...

    They've been talking about a V6 replacement for a while, and it will definitely fall under the Staff Model banner like the blades, wedges and utility irons (my favorites!). You'll have to wait another year for the D7 Forged to go into closeout though - they're pretty strict on 2-year cycles and those are at the tail-end of the first year. It would not be a surprise, though, to see them come out with a special or limited edition D7 Forged this year in black. They did that with the C300 Forged - just to give the product a little boost in year two. 

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  5. The clock on the wall says it's time for a D7 driver/metal wood/hybrid refresh, as well as a D7 iron update. They usually announce these in early-mid January. There's also a long-rumored update to the FG Tour V6 irons coming - to be branded Staff Model. We shall see. And we may see a Staff Model branded driver, as well. 

    And to echo @fozcycle and others, the D7 irons have been very successful (remember, successful for Wilson and successful for Callaway are two different successfuls), and the D7 driver is sneaky good. Launch Pad? Yeah, we'll see...it'll get its two year run and we'll see what they do with the category. 

    Their global marketing director was let go a few weeks ago - no word yet on a replacement, so we'll see how that all plays out. 

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  6. On 10/4/2020 at 11:45 AM, brendalonian said:

    What brings you to MyGolfSpy? Do you already know any other Spies? As I mentioned in my introductory paragraph, between high school and the age of 30 I only played a few times per year. I didn't take the game seriously at all and my equipment reflected that. Until the Spring of 2020 I was gaming the same equipment for the previous 18 years. A couple of years ago I took my early 2000's era driver in for re-shafting and the fitter laughed at me. So instead of having it re-shafted I played without a driver in the bag. When I started playing more consistently I determined that it was time to start upgrading my equipment. As such, I began researching clubs and MyGolfSpy was impossible to overlook. To be honest, at first I was a little put off by the name, "MyGolfSpy." I didn't understand what the site was supposed to be, because I would only end up on it by clicking through to specific articles from Google searches. Over time, the writing hooked me and got me to proactively visit the site. I was reading so many product reviews and product announcements and would be so pleased when I'd open up an article and see @GolfSpy Barbajo's name in the byline. I also think that consumers are savvier than ever and realize that OEM's & golf media companies are in bed together. It is hard to give credence to product reviews that you believe have been paid for by the brand being reviewed. The MGS mission of being an independent, unbiased and data-driven review platform is a breath of fresh air. 

    I have started interacting with other Spies through the forum but do really know any yet.

     

    Thank you for the shout-out @brendalonian - you can be my agent any time!!

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  7. Every golf season is the same for me - try gaming new stuff that we've done feature articles on until mid- or late-July, and then go back to my 2002 vintage MacGregor VIP 1025 CB/MB's that were purchased on eBay. I had them reshafted (with old Hogan Apex 4's) and adjusted 1.5 degrees flat - so they're what @BIG STU would call MacHogan's

    Have generally had good luck on eBay, but then again I look for oddball/older stuff. The most recent purchase was a Callaway X Hot 2Deep 2 wood - had one several years ago and traded it in and regretted it the very next day. Finally found a replacement. Love that club.

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  8. 1 hour ago, fozcycle said:

    How do the Edison’s compare to SCOR or Hogan Tk-15’s....all designed by Terry K?


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    I never gamed the SCOR's, but did game the TK15's - which I loved.  Another one of those clubs that make me ask what the hell I was thinking when I got rid of them...

    I'd say the V-soles are very similar, but the CG is considerably higher. Terry designed these for regular golfers, so I'd say they're more forgiving than the TK's.  Which I liked. A lot. 

    Did I mention that? 😉

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  9. Fan of the D7 Forged as well. If you get a chance, try Wilson's Staff Model Utility irons to fill in the gap between your 5 iron and three wood. the 21 and 24 degree irons are sweet, and very easy to hit. 

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  10. On 7/25/2020 at 10:58 PM, HardcoreLooper said:

    Have you hit any short shots out of fluffy rough high on the face of the Edisons?  I've slid the club right under the ball so many times, hit it high off the face and had it go nowhere.  I'd love something that would help out with those.

    I think you'll find the Edison's will help, but not necessarily cure, that particular issue.  Hitting a wedge is such a glancing blow anyway, and fluffy lies high on the face make it even moreso. The added high mass does help...to the point that instead of dumping it in the trap in front of the green, you may very well carry the trap, So you got that going for your. Which is nice...

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  11. On 7/25/2020 at 4:46 PM, revkev said:

    It’s probably just me but I love the look of those KBS tour graphite shafts. I noticed them in the senior tour event today and see they offer them in the Edison’s


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    I'm working on a project with the KBS TGI 80's - I'll let you know how it works out. 😉

     

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  12. 20 hours ago, aerospace_ray said:

    Thanks for sharing your experiences/reviews. Few questions. What is it about the V-sole that "takes getting used to"? Is your divot pattern different? Take more turf, less turf? 

    Finding the Edisons easier to hit on full shots - maybe it's the weighting, maybe it's the sole, but since taking a couple of rounds to adapt, I can't say I've hit anything terrible "fat" recently, and the divots are nice little patches as opposed to big chunks of turf.  Can't really explain why I find them easier to hit other than the higher CG and greater hi-low MOI. the ZipCores are noticeably better than the RTX-4 in this respect, but I would say the Edisons are even more forgiving. That higher CG also helps with spin.

    Worked with the V-sole better during my round yesterday. It's hard to explain, but the bounce is just plain weird with Edison - the V-sole is fairly pronounced so it takes some practice to figure out how to hit different shots. I'm finding it relatively easy to hit decent flops with the 57, and the 53 is my go-to wedge for 20 to 40 yard spinners.  They hop a couple of times and come to a screeching halt. I guess the best answer is the sole is different enough - bounce-wise - to require some time to adapt. Felt like I was getting the hang of it yesterday.  Not sure that's a terribly specific answer, but it's the best I got...

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  13. 11 minutes ago, GolfSpy Stroker said:

    you mentioned you like the Edison on full shots and the Zipcores around the green - would you consider a combination of both or do you like to have matching wedges?

    Actually did play a mixed set Sunday - Edison 49 and 53, Cleveland 60. Seemed to work okay.

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  14. 22 minutes ago, revkev said:

    It's so funny - having not paid much attention to wedges for a while (because I love my SCORs so much), I've started to of late, (because time marches on and the SCORs are getting long in the tooth.)  I have a set of Hogan TKs in the closet, I bought them on the cheap, but I'm not in love with them so I've developed a wandering eye.  I currently bag 13 clubs so this will allow a slot for an additional wedge and I've thought that I would start with something very bouncy (I'm not great out of the sand as I've probably demonstrated when we've played together.)

     

    Intuitively I knew this was a Terry Koehler project the second I saw the name Edison - man I've become a golf geek. 🙂

     

    So my question, in regards to the 1.5 flat v. neutral I'm curious if you could quantify the difference in accuracy or dispersion.  I'm generally 2 flat and am currently testing Wilson D7's v. my PIng G30's and the D7's are getting trounced.  I tried Foz's D7's pre-pandemic and hit them great but am also thinking that his were 2 degrees flat (he and I generally play to similar specs in our equipment).   Even though that's not a wedge thing reading this here makes me wonder if I shouldn't get the 7 iron bent 2 flat and retest it v. the Ping.  For now though could you give us an idea of the differences that you are experiencing upright verses flat?

     

    Thanks as always, old man.  

    Old man???  What old man???

    Found this chart online:

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    Kinda fits for me - found with the Clevelands, being too upright for me, my misses would be more left than anything. Also found  the right lie has made for more consistent overall ball striking, especially since my irons are 1.5 flat as well. Going from a bit flat to standard lie may have been part of the full shot problem. 

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  15. 10 minutes ago, GolfSpy Stroker said:

    What is your zipcore makeup and why did you choose the bounces you did?

    Also - what do you think of the new shaft.
    This is what Cleveland says:
    "Dynamic Gold Spinner gives you everything you love in a Tour Issue wedge shaft—stability, control, and consistency—but it’s built to help you generate extra spin and tour-level stopping power. It’s an entirely new offering from True Temper with a similar profile to Dynamic Gold S200 but specifically designed for wedge play."
    Do you like/dislike/notice any difference?

    ZipCore is 52-56-60, all standard bounce - it was the sample set they sent for the release article. That makeup didn't really fit my gamers loftwise, but I don't think I would have chosen a different bounce option in any case.  Now that I think on it, one of the reasons I prefer the Edison's on full shots is the fact they're 1.5 degrees flat, while the Cleveland's are standard lie. The devil is always in the details.

    I do like the shaft - haven't really had enough work with it on full shots to give an evaluation, though. It's obviously a good bit heavier than the KBS 105, but the KBS does spin adequately for me on full shots. More work is needed on that...

    More disclosure - while the Clevelands are samples sent for the first look article, I did buy the Edison wedges. 

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  16. So I've had a set of Edison wedges for about three weeks now, and have been alternating between using those and the new Cleveland ZipCore wedges. Have a few impressions to share on the Edison's - and the ZipCores, for that matter. 

    First the Edison wedges:

    My set makeup is 49-53-57, as determined by Edison's WedgeFit section on their website. Had mine built 1.5 degrees flat with midsize grips and KBS Tour 105 shafts in stiff. I've probably played 4 rounds with them - enough to reach a few conclusions:

    1. Feel is exceptional - I know it's not an indicator of performance, but you know it when you hit is perfectly and you know it when you don't. They do provide the feedback you need. 

    2. When you don't hit it perfect, you aren't overly punished. That's the real story with Edison - they're pretty forgiving. There's plenty of weight high on the face (my "miss"), and with other wedges there's a noticeable loss of both distance and spin. You'll still lose some distancer and spin with Edison, but not nearly as much. It's basically the difference between the front of the green and the front bunker. 

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    3. These do create spin. Hit a low spinner Sunday from about 40 yards that actually felt a bit thin, but it hopped twice and then stopped dead, about 12 feet from the pin. Of course, I missed the putt.  Damn wedge!

    4. When it comes to full shots, I prefer these over the Cleveland's - very consistent and solid. Partial shots around the green the Edison V-sole takes some getting used to. There's no real "bounce" on them, so you do have to learn how to manipulate the club for each shot you're trying to hit. Cleveland also has a V-sole, but it's not as pronounced as Edison, making the wedge more conventional. If that's what you're used to, it may take you a while to get used to the Edison. I know a  lot of Score and original Hogan TK-15 wedge users have reported similar experiences. 

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    5. Not sure what to make of Edison's new Money-Back guaranty policy. They'll custom-build you a set of wedges, and you can play them for as long as you need to - Terry Koehler says 4 to 6 rounds should be enough - and if you see an improvement, keep them.  If you don't like them, send them back and he'll refund your money.

    The website says the limit is 45 days, but Terry says 4 to 6 rounds, however long that takes. I'm sure there will be a little give and take, but if you're intrigued by the wedges, it's not a bad proposition at all - if you're willing to take that leap of faith.  The good news is Koehler isn't some newbie to the industry - he's been around a while and does have a bit of street cred in certain circles. He has a lot of friends in the business, as well as some enemies, and he's pretty outspoken and irreverent, which can rub people the wrong way. 

    But he does make a pretty good wedge. 

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    6. My plan to keep them in the bag and relearn how to use the V-sole. My best short game came while playing the Hogan TK-15's, but as I recall it did take a while to get the hang of that sole around the green. It'll give me something to do for the rest of the summer. 😉

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    Cleveland ZipCore Impressions:

    1. Feel, performance are noticeably different from the RTX-4, at least for me. RTX-4 is a really good wedge, but the feel was always a bit harsh for me. Whatever it is about ZipCore, Cleveland improved the feel considerably.

    2. Full shots - acceptable, but not as acceptable as the Edison's. That could be a combination of things - maybe the shaft, maybe the CG - but the Edison's performed better on full shots. Again, I did like the ZipCore's much more than RTX-4 on full shots. 

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    3. Around the green - ZipCore really shines. Plenty of spin, easy to manipulate the face, can hit 'em high, low, with spin or with run fairly easily. 

    4. It might just be the finish, but the face on the ZipCore just looks larger than the RTX face. I'm sure it's an illusion, but it was pretty startling the first time I tried them. 

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    5. Satin finish is nice, but I'm really looking forward to the black finish they're planning for later this year. 

    6. Cleveland's thing is groove technology. They do Rotex milling, they have microgrooves, and they push the boundaries when it comes to depth, spacing and sharpness. There's definitely more groove tech here than with the Edison wedges, and it's noticeable on partial shots, chips and pitches. 

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    Any questions on the Edisons or the Clevelands, fire away...

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  17. 6 hours ago, jlarose said:

    So what’s the point of this technology versus using an app to track your stats?  Does it give you accurate carry distance?  I’m not seeing the benefit of the technology over let’s say TheGrint App or GolfShot App.  I really want to buy one just not sure why I should.  Any thoughts?  Can anyone convince me to buy one over the other?  Thanks in advance.

    Hmmm, where to start?  

    First things first, it automatically registers your stats as you play - you don't have to do much of anything. It knows what club you hit and where you hit it from. For example - it knows you're using your driver for your tee shot, and then it knows you're using, say, you're 8-iron for your next shot, and from where you're hitting your 8-iron. From that, it knows how far you hit your driver. It basically uses the GPS to pinpoint where you're hitting from and it uses the technology in the strap and the RFID tags to know which club you're hitting and from where. 

    On the green, since you have a tag with your putter, it knows where your first put is, and using the Pin Collect function you can tell it where the pin is and how many putts you took to hole out. 

    The rest of the story is the actual data presentation. You get distances for each club, as well as what it calls P-Average, which basically culls out things like punch outs, half shots or really, really bad tee shots to give you an accurate idea of your "good" shots. You also get stats like proximity to the hole for approach shots with different clubs, short game and putting stats, etc. It's all presented on a personal dash board on their website and on the app. You will probably have to do a little post-round editing once you upload the data from the watch to your app or computer, but it's easy enough to do.

    Aside from all that, you get a pretty decent GPS watch and a way to remember bucket list rounds. 

     

    Not sure if any of this helps - but to me, that's the point of this technology,. 

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