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On 9/20/2022 at 9:12 AM, Kenny B said:
First, check how far you hit these clubs on a launch monitor to get a comparison with 2 years ago. Losing over a club distance in two years seems like quite a lot, but you are comparing distance on a launch monitor with actual on course yardage.
How are you launching your irons compared to 2 years ago? If your launch is lower, it could be swing speed loss or technique. A fitter will help you with the shaft weight and flex; we can't do that.
Yes, we all lose distance with age and a change may be in order. However, a lot of the distance loss could be in your physical condition compared to two years ago. I know I neglected that as I got older. Core exercises, improved delivery of the club, and speed training can help. At 75 I gained a club distance over last year.
Those are good points! A few things have changed in those two years. I'm 68 and clearly losing clubhead speed. On top of that, I've been in lessons since March of this year and my pro has been making some significant changes in my swing. I guess there is a good chance my swing is a bit tentative due to the ongoing swing changes. Hopefully as time goes on, I'll get more efficient and recover some speed. I used to have an enterprise launch monitor, but something broke inside of it- I understand it's a bad motherboard. When I got my Flightscope I was really excited. After about 6 months the buzz wore off and I rarely used it- like maybe once per year to check my club gaps. I'm not willing to buy a maintenance agreement for over $1,000 per year for something I doubt I'll use very often. I may buy an inexpensive personal launch monitor, something like a Rhapsodo or a Mevo but I doubt I'll use them very much.
I am certain my swing has been fundamentally flawed for many years. As you suggested, my physical condition has been neglected. I think any length I used to have was the product of strength overcoming poor technique and poor conditioning.
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On 9/20/2022 at 5:33 AM, RickyBobby_PR said:
Ignore flex. First theres no industry standard for flex and one companies senior flex could be another companies regular or it could be softer. Second the stiffness one needs to look at is the stiffness profile of the shaft. That’s butt stiffness, mid section stiffness and tip stiffness.
Lighter doesn’t guarantee faster. What matters is how the shaft weight and feel once it’s installed in a club feels to the golfer. If a shaft is too light it could cause the golfer to change their swing and affect swing speed
Get fit, but make sure it’s from a reputable fitter. It will give you an idea of what works and doesn’t work for you and take the guessing out of it
I'd love to get fit by a reputable fitter. I'm not sure who the reputable fitters are in either Central Ohio or Southwest Florida. We have True Spec and Club Champion, but from what friends have told me both are out of my price range. One buddy told me he paid $400 for a driver fitting at one of those.
My golf club does fittings. Iron fittings are $150 and I would pay that. It's done by our club's pros. I'm just not sure if they are good fitters.
Is anyone familiar with fitters in Columbus, Ohio or the Fort Myers/Bonita Springs/Naples Florida areas?
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I have a few pair of white golf pants. I rarely wear them anymore, because for the most part I wear shorts.
- artful_golfer, Kenny B and GolfSpy TCB
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As I age, I keep losing distance. There's no surprise there. I moved up a tee a couple of years ago so a well struck driver ends up in reasonable positions. I've noticed lately I've lost about a club and a half on irons and hybrids. I've played my current irons for about 7 years or so. They have reasonably strong lofts and 85 gram R flex steel shafts.About two years ago my 7 iron with a steel R shaft carried an average of 153 yards ( based on a Flightscope X2Elite launch monitor), now just 2 years later my 6 iron with a steel R shaft will come up 5-6 yards short of 150 yards. I hit the ball pretty straight - with a tight draw with the current irons.
I'm considering getting fit for new irons and wonder if I'll get any additional distance from a lighter shaft with probably senior shafts.
What should I expect? I'm pretty satisfied with my current irons, I just have begun to hit them about 15 yards shorter and it's making golf much harder for me. Has anyone made this switch to lighter softer graphite shafts? What kind of results did you see? Do you have any advice or suggestions?
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I belong to two clubs, one in the north, one in the south. Neither one has yardages on the sprinkler heads anymore. The northern one does have plaques in the fairway at 100, 150, 200 and even 250 on par 5s. The Southern one has no markers for 100-150-200.
I use a laser rangefinder, but I would be fine with just yardages marked to the center on sprinkler heads and pacing off the distance from there.
When I took up the game in the 80s, I just used the 100, 150 yards bushes. For distance to the pin, I just assumed if a pin was in the back I should play and extra 8 yards from center, likewise a front pin I took off 8 yards. I've never been good enough that being off by 3-4 yards made much difference
The advantage to today's distance finding technology is it helps me play a little faster.
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On 5/13/2022 at 6:46 AM, Headhammer said:
$2 Garden rod used as alignment stick, swing plane stick, hip rotation tool
$20 Putting mirror
How do you use it as a hip rotation tool?
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Great questions all.
I'm against counterfeiting. It's just blatant theft. I would want people to know somethings was counterfeit before they bought it. I'd like to dry up the demand for counterfeit goods.
I doubt I'd say anything to someone who has a counterfeit club, unless they knew it was counterfeit. I would be nice and let them know I think it's wrong.
- tony@CIC, cycleguy55, BIG STU and 2 others
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Like @revkev I'm older than most posters. I've had lots of instruction and unfortunately very little coaching.
When I've played my best for extended periods of time, seasons or years, I had the luck to have a good coach.
I also think the PGA teaches pros to be instructors, how to teach the golf swing, how to fix a golf swing. Beyond that, they teach them how to run a business.
I think as a student, getting a coach requires they are available to you, perhaps to go out on the course somewhat regularly.
I think it's getting easier to coach due to the availability of simulators.
FWIW, my first coach put together a terrific program. I was a beginner with a 36 handicap. He had me take a driving range lesson weekly, he gave me a playing lesson weekly and we would play 18 holes weekly. He even took me to the local PGA pro-ams 3-4 times. When we started, I couldn't break 100. After 6 months of this, I shot 78 in a pro-am and my handicap dropped to 12. Obviously the 78 was an outlier :).
The second coach played 18 with me about once a month, gave me playing lessons about every six weeks, and a handful of driving range lessons. This dropped my handicap from 11 to 5 over one season.
Unfortunately, as I got older my game got worse and I am no longer a single digit player.
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Great find @cnosil. Thank you for posting it!
- sirchunksalot and cksurfdude
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I agree with @revkev A good instructor, alignment sticks and a launch monitor. In addition to those, I've had good success with the Tour Striker Planemate and Smartball and a golf club for stretching to increase flexibility and ability to turn.
- revkev, Bulldog and sirchunksalot
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@OHgolfer2Nice post! What do you think is the reason for the extra 15-20 yards? Is it better contact or higher clubhead . speed? and assuming the OH in your handle means Ohio? If you are interested, there is a strong Ohio group on here. Regular outings etc.
@Lacassem@Getoffmylawn Are you having any challenges integrating each separate movement into one smooth swing? Did you have any problems with the relax portion, especially in protocol 3?
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Is the Planemate beginning to run it's course? This had a lot of discussion here and around the interwebs and a lot of discussion on social media for about 18 months. I noticed there doesn't seem to be much buzz around this online anymore.
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On 10/1/2020 at 8:55 AM, revkev said:
That’s less than an hour from me. We will have to get together before March - we’ve got several
MGS guys in the Tampa Bay area.
Safe travels down.
Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpyWe also head to Florida for the winter. We're a little south of Ft. Myers in Bonita Springs. If you'd be willing to let an old hacker join, I'd love to play if possible.
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On 10/1/2020 at 4:14 PM, revkev said:
So I did my maintenance work out today. A coworker challenged me to add 22 push ups to any work out that I do in October for Veteran suicide awareness month. I do a regular workout twice a week that includes a number of push ups so no problem, right.
These swings must engage the same muscle group because I struggled to do 22 at the end of my session. Did them though.
Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpyCongrats! That's an impressive effort for a great cause!
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Nice 2nd Protocol review! Do you think the clubhead speed variances between the different weight clubs was more due to your move and the weather? I was a little surprised the different clubs didn't increase at the same rates over time. @tony@CIC
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On 9/17/2020 at 7:24 AM, MaxEntropy said:
I did my second session of ASD 3 last night. Overall, my balance was a little better, but still a little tricky to quickly get reset and swing. I forgot to record the swings, so I'll do it next week.
Have you incorporated that feel in your on course swing? If so, have you noticed any difference in ball striking or length you hit clubs doing that?
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I haven't been posting my results mainly because I'm still in the intro protocol for another two weeks and because I'm really more interested in what others have to say. I'm only five weeks in and I took a week off when my back was in some pain. I just want to share that I'm a senior in my late 60s and I've lost a lot of speed in the last several years. In July, I checked my clubhead speed with my driver and it was 75-79 mph. I even took out an old Callaway Razr Hawk driver that is my wife's old driver and only swung it at 78-79 mph! I looked at my old data from 2016 and found my 9 iron was 78-79 mph at that time. I got the Super Speed system and a Swing Speed Radar. I had a hard time the first session getting the GREEN club to 80 mph. Now five weeks in, I have the yellow and green club hitting 101-102 and the blue club going 99-100. I checked my Ping G30 and am swinging it around 89-91 mph. That's easily 10 mph +. Like so many have said, I find this system works, even for old guys.
- revkev, MattF, SuperSpeed Golf and 2 others
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7 hours ago, MaxEntropy said:
My final review has been posted in the following link:
Scroll down until you see the BIG TEAL TEXT
I hope you enjoy the review as much as I have the process!
Well written review @MaxEntropy , Thank you for posting it.
You hit on something at the end that I was just thinking about. I used to have a lot of lower back pain and I thought it was exacerbated by practicing. Once I started on Super Speed a month ago, my lower back pain has disappeared, just like you mentioned in your review. Oh and while I'm just in the intro protocol I've gained more than I expected when I do the workout.
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16 minutes ago, tony@CIC said:
It's my irons and wood/hybrids that I see the big difference. But then I have more confidence in those clubs then my driver. Even thought I'm pretty accurate with my driver. With my driver, I'm so focused on path that I don't just swing away like with other clubs.
Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpyThat's interesting. I think I'm gaining a little off the tee, but I can't be sure. Columbus has been in a dry spell for a while and the ball is running in the fairway. My instructor mentioned he thought my clubhead speed is higher in a lesson when I was hitting a 6 iron. I think my carries haven't changed much. Time to get on the Flightscope I guess.
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19 minutes ago, tony@CIC said:
That's interesting - I haven't had a back swing reading on my PRGR LM. are you setting it up differently?
Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpyI'm using a Swing Speed Radar.
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On 9/1/2020 at 2:17 PM, tony@CIC said:
Same here - speed fluctuations due to a lot of factors. I no longer look at my daily numbers but instead weekly trends. Longer term I'll probably abandon the weekly trends for monthly trends.
Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpyAre you seeing a difference in how far you hit your irons?
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On 8/29/2020 at 3:59 PM, MaxEntropy said:
Lol, same. The other issue I've had with it is when I do the little forward swing like Daisy in the demo, the radar will occasionally pick up that little swing, so I've had a bunch that read like 25-30.
Haha- one of the things I've learned from using the Super Speed sticks is that my backswing is consistently at 25 mph on the radar unit. I never even thought about backswing speed before.
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Shafts and iron distance
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I'm not sure, maybe I misunderstood him. Maybe it was the additional cost over a standard driver. I do remember something about a $900 driver.