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  1. I think you would have to practice quite a bit with both putters in order to ensure it wouldn't seriously mess with your stroke. And I'd definitely steer clear of mixing putters with drastically different designs - like toe balanced vs. face balanced.

  2. There's actually 3 versions, IIRC.

     

    1) Ping had the original version that had a slightly larger nickel insert, but it was very expensive -- both to make and sell. This is the version some of their Tour guys used.

    2) So, they came out with a version that had a slightly smaller nickel insert to sell to the masses.

    3) Then, they came out with a version that had an insert of copper or some other metal of a bronze-type color.

     

    Of course, the ones with the larger nickel insert are the ones that are supposed to be of some value (what kind of value, IDK).

     

    I wish I had bought the first version you mention when they were still relatively cheap. Now they are going for over $300 on the Bay. :)

  3. I didn't read all the thread...but this thread reminds me of what some of my other golf boards call a player with one brand all throughout their bag (and often with a bag to match, lol) -- those players are affectionately called "douchebags". LOL

     

    Honestly, it's not meant as a put-down....just a descriptive to indicate the brand allegiance.

     

    Not sure you could call anyone a "douchebag" and it not be a put-down. But OK...

  4. I pitted the Nike Str8-Fit against the Zero Limit and the only reason the Nike won out was because you can adjust it between a flat and upright lie angle in addition to the face angle (open or closed). I'm 6'4 and being able to adjust the lie angle upright resulted in improved accuracy and more fairways hit. But, the ZL is a REALLY good driver. All the distance of the Cobra L series without the annoying, ear shattering sound.

  5. A lot of drivers have come onto the market since Cobra released the L4V in 2007. In fact, Cobra itself has already released the L5V with adjustable face technology and the Zero Limit. However, sometimes the latest isn't always the greatest and the L4V is still VERY popular with Cobra fans. So....

     

    Last year, I started out the season needing a new driver. I had gamed my Ping G2 for years and thought an update in technology would help my game. My search was been well chronicled including some time spent with the Ping G10 and the new Cleveland Launcher. Both are good in their own right, but unfortunately I couldn't find the correct head/loft/shaft combination to suit my game. I went back to the drawing board and did more research. The L4V was receiving rave reviews from what seemed to be a very loyal message board following. I was intrigued and decided to give it a try.

     

    Pros

     

    L4V stands for Limit 4 Variables and Cobra designed this driver to reach the limits on all four of the USGA defined performance variables: Maximum COR (.830), maximum head dimensions (5" by 5"), maximum volume (460cc), and MOI. The most apparent of these is the size of the head - the L4V seems ginormous at address. This inspires a ton of confidence to bomb away but players who prefer a smallish head probably need to look elsewhere. The other technology clearly visible is the carbon composite crown which in my opinion looks wicked cool and futuristic.

     

    Another great thing about the L4V is it includes the best driver head cover I've ever come across. It is made with high quality materials and the magnetic enclosure makes taking the club in and out a quick and painless operation. Sometimes little nuances make a huge difference and Cobra evidently recognizes this.

     

    OK, enough with aesthetics you say! How does the driver perform? I've never been a huge fan of composite drivers, but with the L4V Cobra has found the right mix of face and crown materials to optimize performance and enhance feel. After a dozen rounds logged with the L4V in my bag, I can honestly say it is hands down the longest driver I'd ever hit.

     

    There are three different models (X, F, and M) - each with Mitsubishi Rayon Diamana Red Board shafts with distinct flex and kickpoint combos. My mid to high nineties swing speed put me right between the F and M models, but I eventually opted for the M. The determining factor was the 2-degree closed face, which gave me a predictable high draw ball flight that consistently took the right hand side out of play. As a result, I began hitting more fairways.

     

    Cons

     

    The only consistent negative comment I've heard about the L4V is the sound it produces at impact. This driver is LOUD. It sounds like a M-80 going off in a coffee can. More than once, I've had groups in front of me in the fairway or on the green turn and look when I tee off. I get a lot of undue attention on the practice tee. It doesn't bother me now and in fact I've come to like it. But, Cobra should package the L4V with ear plugs (for your playing partners).

     

    Final Word

     

    I'm very particular on drivers. Good drives can set the tone for a round and nothing beats standing in the middle of the fairway while your playing partners poke around for their ball in hazards or in the woods. The Cobra L4V is a terrific driver if you can live with some of its quirky characteristics. I can given how it is benefiting my game and it will likely be a mainstay in my bag for a very long time.

     

    Update

     

    If you notice, the L4V in my bag has been replaced by the Nike Str8-Fit. I finally decided while distance was spectacular with the L4V, my ball flight was too high and here in the windy Midwest that is an issue. I thought about re-shafting, but I ended up going with a 9 degree in the Nike. Once a club ho, always a club ho. :lol:

  6. Well Taylormade said they would not send us anything to test until we had a forum...lol. I guess the blog format is not enough for them since they can't control the content. So maybe now we can get some of their balls to hit :lol:

     

    That's pretty snarky of Taylormade to do that. Wow.

  7. Ball preference is so subjective. The only way to know if a ball will work for your game is to play it. That is true will all equipment but I think for even more so with balls. There are so many variables at work.

     

    With that said, I haven't tried the Penta yet. I'm not sure my game justifies the cost. :lol:

  8. So what club do you drop to carry one of these? Is there a need to bag more than one?

     

    When I game the Niblick, I pick the club that I know I will use the least for a particular course (usually my 5 wood or one of my wedges). You could also take out the club that it would replace based on how far you hit the Niblick on full shots. Like I said in the review, for me that was my 50 degree gap wedge.

  9. I've heard nothing but good things about Tom's work. That Back Thunder finish looks awesome. Black oxide is a pain (especially with the temperature changes and precipitation here in the Midwest) and the last thing you want is your expensive putter to rust up.

  10. First off, Tiger isn't a Billionaire any longer. Half of that is probably sitting in a Swiss bank account with Elin's name on it. If you want to play, then be prepared to pay... :lol:

     

    I think its possible that Tiger could switch if he had a direct hand in the development of the putter. He is very exacting when it comes to his equipment. I remember reading about how he can detect when his back-up Scotty is off by a gram or two in weight. Totally unreal.

  11. Over the past couple of months I have been experimenting around with the Cleveland Niblick. For those of you who haven't seen it, the Niblick is a "short game hybrid". According to the company, it combines the best features of a wedge, putter, iron and hybrid to create the "ultimate hybrid scoring club". It looks like a chipper but with 42 degrees of loft it can also be used for full shots which increases its utility. Chip, pitch, approach, and recovery shots are all possible with this club. Cleveland has come up with a new product category here. And its like nothing you've gamed before.

     

    Pros

     

    Many mid to high handicap golfers lose valuable strokes by failing to get up and down - hitting chips and pitches fat or sculling them over the green. If you struggle at times with that portion of your game then this club is for you.

     

    The Niblick has an upright lie angle with putter length, 8 degrees of bounce, and very effective alignment aides. After some adjustment, a normal chipping stance with a putting stroke yielded shots that stayed low and checked up quickly.

     

    Cleveland has incorporated all the goodies from its popular CG14 wedges including the milled zip grooves and the vibration damping gelback technology. The result is soft feel and enhanced spin around the green. During my first round with it in the bag, I chipped in two shots from the fringe on very fast greens. This is something I can get used to.

     

    The Niblick is also very forgiving on full shots. It has a heavy swing weight and as a result it took time to dial in distances. But after some practice, I found it to be a very stable and forgiving club from the fairway and a wonder from the rough. Everyone will be different, but I hit the Niblick on full shots the same distance as my gap wedge.

     

    It is also an excellent recovery club. During one round, my driver kept leaving me under tree cover and I effectively used the Niblick to chip back out into the fairway.

     

    Cons

     

    OK, this is not the cleanest club you will ever look down upon at address. For those who play game improvement and hybrid clubs it will not be a huge transition, but I suspect players who game a more traditional set will find the topline and offset decidedly unappealing.

     

    Players who put a Niblick in their bag will face a hard decision on what club to take out. Depending on which loft is chosen, for most this club will replace a gap or pitching wedge. But that will be a hard pill to swallow for some because a skilled wedge player will lose some versatility around the greens by doing that. However, I would argue that a skilled wedge player isn't the target demographic for this product and the rest of us are in denial.

     

    The biggest issue perhaps is perception. Purists will scoff at the Niblick. Mike Stachura, Golf Digest's Equipment Editor in a recent article suggested it was a "moral outrage" and called it a "pathetic crutch". I've had a couple of playing partners accuse me of playing an illegal club (its not). This is a frivolous reason not to play a new category of equipment and I'd imagine many of the same things were said about hybrids when they first arrived on the scene. But the stigma associated with this club is still worth noting.

     

    Final Word

     

    If there are days when you struggle with your game around the greens, then having the Niblick in your bag is like carrying a warm security blanket. Not all of us have time to become expert wedge players and therefore this product definitely fills a niche and I would highly recommend at least giving it a run. You might just find it will shave a few strokes off your score, reduce your frustration level, and increase your enjoyment of the game.

     

    The Niblick is available from Cleveland Golf and is sold at most major golf outlets. It is available in lofts of 37 and 42 degrees and retails for $109.99.

  12. ...do the head covers that Rife include with their putters really blow.

     

    After being a long time Scotty owner, I picked up a Rife Abaco. The Abaco is a great combination of looks and forgiveness and it yields the truest roll on a well struck ball of any putter I've ever played. But for god sakes Rife - put a little effort in the head covers. It would be nice if Rife took a page out of Scotty's handbook and included a nice AM&E cover with the Island series. Now I have to go out and invest in one separately.

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