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On 5/26/2020 at 11:09 AM, Berg Ryman said:
Ok, so I've played 36 holes over the past 72 hours with these irons and have some opinions, some ok, some that raise a slight red flag. Scoring wise I didn't really keep a running score, only kept notes of good swings, save for starting with a birdie on the first hole of the season for the third straight year.
The Positives
- I love the sound of these irons, as it's been said in this thread so far it has a distinct feel, almost like a crack and that's pretty true to form. They feel solid and sound solid, regardless of where you strike the ball, and that's something I can get behind.
- The finish is holding up pretty damn well, and given where I was hitting some shots that's an impressive feat. The club frames the ball well, especially the famous white line-up line on the bottom of the clubs
- My my Modus, what a nice feeling shaft. It really feels like I can be more aggressive on swings with it and it makes the irons feel wonderfully balanced and swingable.
The Negatives
- Distance so far has been lacking. Part of me wonders if this is because my swing is still in early days, but yesterday shots were coming up 5+ yards short of what I would have expected. I will put some blame of this on me because my swing is a bit of a shambles right now, but I will keep checking these numbers, especially when I get Arccos up an running on these bad boys.
- I know many of you see SGI irons as irons with training wheels, but let's be real, a bad swing = a bad result. I've adjusted to the wedges length and the short irons as well, but the longer irons will decidedly take time. I haven't struck a good 4 iron yet in multiple attempts and 5 iron is a rare beast at this point in time as well.
What Comes Next
Well, what comes next is some range sessions this week/weekend leading to one of the more interesting decisions I've made in a while. I signed up just under the wire to compete in the Local Newspaper Amateur qualifying tournament in 6 days. Yep, you read that right, a guy with a swing that isn't ideal with a bag he's pretty much played only 2 rounds with is gonna try and make the cut in a local amateur tournament after not playing in one for nearly... 8 years? What's the worst that can happen?
Nice write up!
Are you playing at Cazenovia Country Club or Timber Banks for the qualifier? I played a practice round at Timber Banks the other day...it is in the best shape that I have ever seen it. Greens were fast AND rolling true. Good luck to you in your quest!
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21 hours ago, Sluggo42 said:
You will like those as well. I got the 60° instead of the 58 that I was used to. One wouldn’t think there’s much difference, but there really is, and I’m still getting used to it...
Thanks. I was concerned about that as well. I have played a 52, 56, and 60 for over a decade. Hopefully I adjust quickly to the 50, 54, and 58.
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Was looking at the specs and I noticed the PW is 46 degrees and my current GW is 52 degrees. I was concerned about gapping issues....and I needed new wedges so I ordered the Hogan Equalizer wedges in 50, 54, and 58. It just seemed right to get new wedges from Hogan since they supplied an iron set free for testing (abuse).
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Thank you for this wonderful opportunity! I only hope my review can be helpful. Very excited!
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Hogan PTX Pro/Icon Combo Iron Set - Official MGS Forum Review by JOEN
A big thank you to Hogan golf and mygolfspy for the opportunity to test these clubs. I am very grateful.
Introduction
First, a little about myself. I am 50 years old and have been playing this game for forty years. My handicap can fluctuate from 1.8 to 4.8. I have never been able to get to scratch despite my best efforts. According to Shot By Shot, a strokes gained app that I have used over the past two years, here is how my game breaks down into a handicap:
As you can see, the weak part of my game are the approach shots. I typically get 148 yards of carry from my seven iron. I hit a small draw with my irons and a bigger draw with my driver. My miss is to the left, and I do fear the left side of the golf course as a result. My current set, prior to testing, are Mizuno JPX 850 irons 7 through gap wedge. The five and six are the Cleveland Launcher HB irons. I have been professionally fit twice before, and both fittings gave me the exact same recommendations. Standard length clubs, standard grip size, and two degrees flat. I did not get fit for the Hogan’s given the current situation in the world; however, I felt comfortable going forward with these current specs.First Impressions
The dog immediately approved of the Hogan irons. He was a little upset that there was not a milk bone in the box like the packages that come from 1-800 pet meds. Hogan cannot be faulted for this oversight.
The irons are beautiful in my opinion. Such a classy looking golf club. I think Ben Hogan himself would be proud.
I was a little concerned when I noticed that my seven iron was missing some paint fill. Lack of quality control in this area immediately made me wonder what else was lacking that was not visible (inconsistent lofts, lie angles, etc.) to the naked eye. It certainly seemed to me that someone took a shortcut in the quest for perfection.
I chose the combo set because I had already crafted a combo set for myself. I was very excited to see how a professionally produced set would measure up. I wanted consistent gapping between the clubs, and most importantly, no hot spots on any of the clubs which would produce inconsistent yardages. Inconsistent distances will not be tolerated by this tester. My other important….although a bit subjective…..factor is how the clubs feel when hitting a shot.
Most of my testing was done on course, and a little was done indoors on my Skytrak.
Grading
Looks (10 out of 10 points)
These clubs are stunning. I don’t want to sound like a Hogan fan boy, but they have a timeless shape. These are the Bo Derek of irons. Graphics are not obnoxious, just the right amount of pop. No gaudy colors. The combination set blends well together in my opinion. These clubs are just as nice looking as anything else on the market. I believe Hogan has hit a homerun with these clubs. The only problem I see with the business model of direct to consumer is the lack of shaft options at this point in time. The grips that come standard were a little weird feeling at first, but I have gotten used to the sensation.Sound And Feel (9 out of 10 points)
These clubs have a muted crisp feel to them. I love the sensation when you pure a shot. The only thing that bothers me is I have difficulty telling where on the club face I mishit the ball. The solution to that problem? Don’t mishit the ball. LOL
Basic Characteristics (20 out of 20 points)
These clubs are dead on accurate. Yardages are repeatable. That goes for the Equalizer wedges I also purchased to make sure I had no gaps between the PW and gap wedge. I get the same distance with these clubs as my previous Mizunos. These are not “distance” clubs. These are players clubs in my opinion. Trajectory was mid for my golf swing, and that includes the wedges. You are punished for your mishits, but not excessively so. As I said, these clubs are for players. These clubs feel automatic in my hands. I can draw or fade these irons on command. The five iron is a little wonky in my hands, but I have always struggled with a five iron for some unknown reason. The hybrid, in my hands, truly has an anti left bias built into it. Very much appreciated as I fear the left side as I previously statedOn Course Performance (30 out of 30 points)
Now, I have struggled this summer because I took multiple lessons to overhaul a flaw in my swing, and I also took a short game lesson. I have dropped my handicap a full stroke since using these clubs, but I am not sure it is from the clubs or my lessons starting to pay off. I have shot a personal best of 68 with the Hogans in hand after shooting a 70 the day before. I had six birdies in my personal best round. I had seven birdie looks inside of fifteen feet (realistic chance in my opinion), and I made six of them. I have had multiple tap in birdies (more than usual) with these clubs during the testing period. My strokes gained handicap has dropped to a 4 from an 11 using these clubs. That is what they call the “proof in the pudding.”
Please note the spin that these clubs produce and the stopping power on the green. The turf interaction with the V sole is outstanding. V sole is fantastic for wedge shots out of the bunker as well. I am digging the V sole, although they tend not to dig as much. Apologize for the very bad joke!
Miscellaneous (5 out of 10 points)
The missing paint fill from the seven iron really disturbed me.Play It Or Trade It (20 out of 20 points)
These clubs will be in my bag for a long time. You will have to pry them out of my hands. The five iron is the only exception to that comment. It may be replaced with a Hogan hybrid. I did not deduct points for the five iron, as I feel that is something lacking in my own swing. The important thing with any club, from your driver to your putter, is that you believe in them. I believe these clubs......Conclusion
Don’t overlook these clubs if you are in the market. At this price point and quality, they are a steal.Final Score (94 out of 100 points)
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8 hours ago, tony@CIC said:
Are those perforations in the toe? If so your feet might get a bit wet in soggy grass.
Yes they are. I believe they are listed as water repellent while the BOAs are waterproof. With that said...my round this morning was with wet grass....and I was missing plenty of fairways this morning so they got put to the test. My toes did not get wet at all. So I guess they are water repellent. Lol. Would I wear them on a day with rain forecast....no I would not.
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Just bought and tried out a pair of these shoes. I normally get a 40% discount, but because of COVID it was increased to a 60% discount with free shipping. I couldn’t resist at $52. ASICS golf shoes have never been beautiful in my minds eye, but these were tolerable so I pulled the trigger.
These are quite comfortable. Now I would not say they are as comfortable/cushioned as the Puma golf shoes, but these are a much more stable shoe with a solid heel counter. They readily accommodate an orthotic and the toe box is quite roomy even at a regular width. They appear to be true to size. They do not appear to be available in wide widths.
The shoe appears to be well made. Good torsional stability and the forefoot breaks at the appropriate spot. Insole is removable. If anyone is on the fence about this shoe, I give it my professional seal of approval.
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4 minutes ago, CarlH said:
I don't care for any setup that does not allow the ball to go into the hole. Bouncing it off the cup or plastic or whatever doesn't hole the ball. I don't understand why we can't just have normal cups and remove the ball by grasping it with two fingers and not touching anything but the ball --- but I'm also just glad we're able to play golf, even if some of the added precautions make it seem odd.
I hear you loud and clear.....I am just glad golf courses have been opened back up. Totally saving my sanity!!!!
I have also thought that filling the cups with liquid hand sanitizer would solve this problem as well.
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My answer to this question until last night was “No.”.
Consider this a Public Service Announcement as well. It is a good idea to pad the crossbar of your golf net frame....not just the side posts. I have a nice black eye today.Just so you all know. I merely switched to a lower lofted club and continued to hit balls while icing my eye between shots. Padding will go up today.
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13 hours ago, sirchunksalot said:
Excuse the fact I haven't combed it, I was letting it dry after washing it.
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Wow. She did a nice job! I retract my “Thats what they make hats for” statement.
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23 minutes ago, sirchunksalot said:
I'm about to let my wife give me a quarantine haircut. Hair might be gone soon....
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That’s what they make hats for.....
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3 minutes ago, bens197 said:
NYS public courses are back open under strict orders.
I thought only private courses could open in NY?
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8 hours ago, dlow206 said:
I am just starting up the program, and am going to try blue only and see how it goes. The blue stick only is the rage on GolfWRX right now, seems like some folks are seeing success.
This part to me is fascinating. I too have been following comments on GolfWRX regarding the blue stick only protocol. Some people swear by it. Really seems as though it jump started their progress that they weren’t seeing with the standard three stick protocol. Makes me wonder if neurologically some people respond better to less training....or were they overtraining with the three stick protocol? I have no idea what the answer is....but it intrigues me.
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I do have an official handicap at the club because my scores get turned in, and I also keep track of my scores separately now. Just one more thing to do that was all inclusive before. I keep my handicap because I play in tournaments where there is an upper ceiling on the handicap number allowed to play. I get it. They want to eliminate vanity handicappers getting into tournaments they shouldn’t be in. They also want to get rid of the guy who shoots 71 in a tournament while posting 85s in rounds played alone. Peer review. Doesn’t mean I have to be happy about it. Lol
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4 hours ago, DaveP043 said:
Let's quote the Purpose of the Handicap System:
Handicaps are intended to be used when playing or competing with others. When you're playing by yourself, your handicap really doesn't matter. Its pretty logical that the data used to compute a handicap should also consist of rounds played with or competing with others. If your scores are the same, whether playing by yourself or playing with others, why does it matter? And if you're consistently better one way than the other, shouldn't the scores that count for handicap calculation be the ones that are most similar to the conditions when your handicap actually matters?
I'm not worried about this one. The elimination of "solo rounds" for handicap was the first small step towards the WHS, towards making our procedures similar to the entire rest of the world. If there are future changes (I believe there will be), those of us in the US will see more restrictions in types of scores to be posted, not loosened restrictions.
I understand why they are doing it. I have always used the handicap system differently. I don’t play in handicapped events. I use it solely for tracking my level of play.
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29 minutes ago, dlow206 said:
I think the USGA should allow solo rounds to be posted.
I couldn’t agree more with you on this one. Golf is supposed to be a game of integrity. Players calling penalties on themselves. Sand baggers (vanity and otherwise) are going to sand bag.
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Ok. I got the Big Max IP blade out for 18 holes today in a light rain. Very easy to unfold. Very easy to fold closed. Held my bag nicely. Rolled nicely and was easily maneuverable. Very adjustable for the bag Size and the handle height. Everything is nicely arranged on the handle. Very solid piece of machinery. Stability was pretty good....I think there are more stable ones on the market, but I was looking for one which folds down to a very small footprint. This thing fits that bill to a tee. The golf bag laid on top of it very nicely. I would definitely buy it again. I only have one concern with this push cart. The clip for the front wheel is a plastic piece that doesn’t look as though it is as beefy as it should be. Maybe I am wrong. Maybe this will never break....but this little piece to me looks like the weakest link.
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3 hours ago, dlow206 said:
Every time I try to get started on a Superspeed program, I get frustrated that the radar reads so low. Sometimes if I swing all out, it reads at like 70 mph. I have it on the golf setting and MPH. I believe that the device i receive is faulty, because its reading 30 mph lower than my actual swing speed. Tried to reach out to the company a long time back (way before any of the covid stuff was happening) and couldn't get a response. I think the radar is reading ok in terms of relative to itself. Should i just ignore that the radar reads so low and start the program?
I don’t think any of these Swing Speed radars are all that accurate compared to a Trackman. They do seem to be consistent with whatever speed they read however. I would just use 70 as your baseline and try to improve from there. Have you checked the batteries?
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I saw a report yesterday that 12 states have closed golf courses. I see no problem with it as long as people social distance themselves. Open air therapy used to be a thing....before the invention of antibiotics.
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Great club to have in your bag! I hit mine ALL the time!
The Heavenwood is the REAL DEAL! Fun club to hit. Very versatile. If you have never hit one, then I highly recommend you give your father in laws club a go....just don’t cause any damage to it. Holidays with in laws are stressful enough without something like that hanging over your head.