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  1. 24 minutes ago, StrokerAce said:

    wow - Exputt looks awesome; I wonder if when you set your putter down, the face closes or opens? also - do you hover the putter or sole it on the turf?

    33 putts per round is really good. Fewer than 2 putts per hole is nice.

    yeah, generally putting is my strength, and I know we all have our off days, but it just seems since like the end of last year to the beginning of this year, it just hasn't felt right.  Maybe something more consistent time practicing will help regain that feel. 

    interesting comment about the face of the putter, my playing partner (superintendent) says he notice that, once I appear set I loosen my grip and regrip it and when I do that he swears he sees the face open at times.   It's something he will mention mid round at times as a reminder and I'll try and be more cognizant of it.   even though most of my putts tend to miss left, so I may be over rotating the face.   But again I'll go back to Sasha's comment on the Proving Grounds that a small 1 degree open or closed in a putter is not going to be the primary reason for a miss.  It was interesting on putts that missed right with an open face, I knew as soon as the putt left the head that I left it open.    And sure enough the data backed it up. 

    Yeah, Ex Putt is awesome and this is the first version form like I said 5 years ago or whenever we did the forum test.  it has 4 modes and this mode above is the practice mode, just pick a distance and green speed you can pick from like 7 to 14 and just practice straight putts.  Then the other 3 modes are more of challenges and playing mode.  

  2. Since this is MGS.  I thought Id add a little data to my story 
     

    So i did a quick Ex Putt session to ger some current.    Now i will say i know EX Putt is not real putting.  But having had this for probably 5 yesrs or so.  It is very good on your path and face data. 
     

    As you see my tendency is in to out path and slightly closed face.   during this session i had prwtty good distwmce control and made 7 of the 20 putts from 10 feet.  Which is 35%.   Just below Tour average abd well above the 20% a 18 handicap wpuld have.  My handicap is actually 17.1. right now.  
     

    Now to be fair after this. I played a 9 hole ij challenge mode where you had putts from 26 to 51 feet with some uphill and downhill and big breaks. 

    They place you on the green in regulation and you go from there.   I had 22 putts so not much better than yesterday.  Now i do think there were 3 putts that went in that it didnt catch.   But still 19 would be too high.  
     

    on a good round i normally have 29-31 putts  i averaged 33.5 according to the GHIN stats   

     

     

     

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  3. 2 hours ago, TJ Hall said:

    I may have missed it in the posts, but what is the cause of your 3 putts?  Are you approaches hitting greens but miles away from the pin?  Speed control, starting line, green read issues?

    I find it hard to give club advice, something that works for me might not necessarily work for you.

    Had a Ping Anser 2i for years and was an ok putter, but started struggling with starting line (cutting across the ball).  Switched to a TM Spider and had some success, starting line was much improved but feel was not there (struggled with speed control mostly).  Had some days where I couldn’t miss, then others where I had no idea how the ball was coming off the face.

    Moved to Odyssey Ai-ONE 7s as part of the test and have felt very comfortable with this putter so far.  Struggled my last round out, but I think that was the putter (me) and not the putter (club).

    I don't know if I mentioned it specifically in any of the posts, but good question.  If I had to boil it down to one thing, it's been my speed control over the last few months.  I used to have excellent speed control never really going more than a foot or two long or a foot short.     So maybe it's just the lack of play and real time putting, I've lost a bit of sense of touch.

     

    1 hour ago, arodrig29 said:

    I completely agree. I went through Putter, after Putter, after Putter until I found one that I really liked the feel of. It turns out I needed a really soft face insert. The Ping Sigma 2 Tyne 4 has changed putting for me. I used to be very nervous around the green. Specifically, longer putts. But after going through a pretty tedious, putter fitting, I realized that I didn’t enjoy the feeling of a putter I wasn’t going to feel secure over it.

     

     

     

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    That is the putter I was fit for when I mentioned I was fit at PING HQ by their master fitters.  I putted really well with it for almost 2 years, before of course switching to the Scotty 🙂 

    1 hour ago, GolfSpy SAM said:

    I have a few suggestions. Take them for what they're worth.

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    With this particular model, you'll want to try to hit the ball where the arrow is pointing.  It's a novel concept, but could be the solution to your issue (I didn't read very closely, but it sounds like you're missing the hole a lot. This could help.).

    If you don't love the look of this one (and I get it, it's not everyone's cup of tea), you could always give this a shot:
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    Don't be fooled - they LOOK similar, but they're completely different.  This one's orange.  And has a lot more lines.  See? Totally different. 

    Also an option:

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    This one's really good when you want to use it after the round to club anyone who talked smack about your game. The blood just blends right in.  And no sight lines to smear! Double-win!

    In all seriouslyness (that's for those of you who like typos 😉 ), I'm a huge believer in confidence putting.  If you're confident in what you're looking down at, it can make a world of difference.  I'm also a HUGE believer in (and it was mentioned by you above) the idea of spending most of your time looking at the hole and feeling the speed, then I give a quick look to make sure I'm still aligned behind the ball, looking back at the hole one more time, and then away we go.  I've found some incredible success this way - not 100% "looking at hole while putting" style, but allowing my lizard brain to do the work of gauging speed and letting my body do the rest.  

    As usual, excited to see what you decide on!

    Don't every change Matt...EVER 🙂

     

    49 minutes ago, TJ Hall said:

    Should be a very easy decision…looked like most every putter out there had been listed so far!

    That is so true isn't it.  Lots of choices! 

    48 minutes ago, Samuel09152 said:

    I have watched some of Chasing Scratch but havent seen this episode. The buddy I am talking about is possibly the best golfer I have ever met, and probably why he shouted it at me in frustration. lol  Shortly after that I started hearing of Speith used to putt like this on the Tour when he had a case of the yips. I forget the podcast, but they were say Scottie should try it. There is a lot of research on this actually. 

     

    The article form Golf Digest this quote stands out to me: 'Ignoring the ball made me a better putter almost immediately—by 20 percent, according to my friend Tony. Recently, I talked with Dr. Bob Christina, a sport psychologist and an assistant golf coach at the University of North Carolina at Greensboro. It was Christina who conducted the study I read about, in collaboration with Eric Alpenfels, the director of golf instruction at Pinehurst. (In 2008, they expanded their findings into a general theory, in a book called Instinct Putting.) "The bottom line for me is that looking at the target frees you up to stroke the ball more naturally," Christina said." (https://www.golfdigest.com/story/david-owen-why-jordan-spieth-and-i-look-at-the-hole-on-putts

    Regardless I still believe, the equipment matter, becasue you have to have confidence in what you are using also. If you look down in see a marshall or a brick, there is problem aslo. So I hope you find a the putter that inspires your putting! Also sorry for the school like quote there, tyring to not make it formal but also stuck in school (MBA) and work mode lol 

    I took a short game lesson from Eric whoa....maybe 10 years ago or so.  One of the best things I've ever done in my life, I'd love to go back down and see him.   He taught me there were 5 different type of short game shots and how to approach them.    I had always thought of like 1 or 2.  

  4. 4 minutes ago, ZackS said:

    My main suggestion is a putter fitting, especially the Edel fitting process is really good in my option. I already thought this but was even more convinced on it after my TPT shaft fitting. Jon Sinclair who did the fitting and has been around the business and the tour for many years said the original Edel putting fitting kit is the best he has seen. The only problem with it he said is on the business side as people were not buying anymore putters after getting fit. 

    That is the 2nd recommendation for Edel putter fitting, @GolfSpy BOS also suggested it. I do know the local Edel fitter who is only about 30  minutes or so from my course.   

    Also @revkev that is very interesting on the SP putter and fitting and you are correct about the PING Long game and having to go with the recommdations.  Often we stick with what is comfortable for us. 

    @Girldad18 The reason for my emoji on your reply about Lean Lock is that scares me to death, I tried it once a few years ago out of curiosity not need,  and you might as well told me to try putting left handed that's how much I hated it.  

  5. 2 minutes ago, Girldad18 said:

    Putting can be pretty mentally abusive.  In college our mental coach told me something that stuck.  You can only control two things, line and speed.  If you hit the putt on the line you intended and the speed you intended and it didn't go in, then there is nothing more you can do.  Its frustrating, but true.  I would start there if I was you.  Aerated greens are no fun and in my opinion you have a built in excuse.  

    For me, you have to find a putter you like the feel of, one you know works and stick with it.  Then it is line and speed.  You cannot be on the course thinking about your putting stroke or golf swing for that matter.  

    When I am struggling with this, when I am about to putt and give the hole that last look, I draw a line back to the ball and that is what I try to putt on.

    Now if you are not hitting your line or your speed is way off, then you need to do some work on the putting green.  After all, we have more strokes on the green with our putter than with any other club per round so we should spend a large majority of practice time putting.

    That's a really good post thanks.  And I agree with it 100%

    On a recent PING Proving Grounds Podcast Marty and Shane had Shasa on and they talked about short game and putting in particular.  And I'm going to forget the stat, but we discussed it in MOD Slack Chat,  that the most common reason for missed putts is bad green reading, after that it was speed control.   And down the list were poor contact or something like that.   But the general thought was along what your saying,  if you can read the green (i.e. speed and break) correct your chances of making more putts goes up significantly. 

  6.  

    Help!! I need putter advice!

     I know there will be no shortage of that here especially on one particular brand. But i haven't felt comfortable with a putter in the last 6 months Including the following

    Scotty 1.5 Flowback-my gamer for the past 2 years.

    Odyssey Ai 1 Rossie a couple rounds

    PING Shea-a couple rounds

    EVNROLL 11 some good days and some really bad ones!! 

     MEZZ Max  was good but not great.  Only a month or so with it.   I didn't miss any short putts inside 3 feet, but I didn't make ANY putts in the 10 foot range and I'm usually good for a couple of those a round. 

    Look at these stats yesterday.  Yes, I'll take the shame of publicly posting a 49....I deserve it 🙂 

    Granted i played on greens that were aerated 24 hours earlier.  Also the lack of greens hit isn't too alarming. I played tees longer than I normally do  and was into a wind all day.  Par 3’s and 1 par 5 were the only ones i was capable of reaching.   And all just barely missed. Driver was excellent (more on that in my driver shootout thread) and hitting 7 fairways and 23 putts just doesn’t work.  If I had a "decent" day putting I would have shot 43 or 44 and been pretty happy.    Call me the Scottie Scheffler of the Forum 🙂 

    Ok so lets hear any and all thoughts

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  7. On 3/20/2024 at 11:44 AM, GolfSpy_BEN said:

    Hello All, 

    This is my 2000th post. I tried to time it up, to hit on March 27th. The 1 year anniversary of my stumbling into what has become a rather integral part of my life. However, because there are so many great things going on the forum, and I gotta get these posts off, I am a week early. Such is life. 
     

    A look back at the past year reveals quite the journey so here are a few highlights:

    The Callaway Paradym Iron testing opportunity is what prompted me to join. I signed up and impatiently waited for the announcement. The tester’s were announced and to my dismay, I wasn’t one of them. 😥 

    What happened next is/was critical to my journey. I read @GolfSpy_APH’s how to be a tester thread. Which prompted me to take the initial steps with a completed profile and photo where the B had been. My first actual post came on April 13, 2023

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    7 people gave a blue heart, which was gratifying, so my initial trepidation about posting was overcome and we were off. 
     

    My next pivotal moment, and what I would argue is my finest contribution to these here forums would come from a fundamental question I asked myself:

    Over the course of 2000 posts, this was and still is my absolute favorite. 
     

    Because I followed the prescribed steps and got myself involved I was chosen to test the Garsen Max Putter Grip. Which was cool, because Garsen sent us three different putter grips to try out. That resulted in:

    Subsequently followed by:

    I’m fairly certain this review remains unread by the masses, for reasons I have explained on the community call, IYKYK (yes, it’s still there).

    We have mentioned in the “want to be a tester” threads that doing a great job on a small item review can be a springboard into bigger tests, I am proof of that as I was selected for one of the most coveted spots for 2023:

    It was around this time that @GolfSpy_APH put out a feeler for anyone interested in joining the staff. Along with @GolfSpy AFG, @GolfSpy_SHARK, & @GolfSpy_KFT, I joined the staff as a forum leader. Which prompted @GolfSpy AFG to rename us as the “interns”. Almost immediately @GolfSpy TCB had to step away from the forum and I inherited a moderator role and the VCT. For those who are interested:

    And if you haven’t joined us yet, but would like to, our 3rd season will be kicking off the week of April 8th. We would be honored to have you join us. 

    Lastly, my latest endeavor:

    Follow along as I try to overcome a series of seemingly random and unfortunate events. 
     

    As I look back on the past year, I am filled with gratitude and admiration for my fellow testers and the membership at large. You have all made this place a special corner of the interwebs, where civility, intellectual curiosity, and kindness rule the day. 

    A special thanks goes out my fellow staff members: @GolfSpy BOS, @GolfSpy SAM, @GolfSpy_BNG, @Golfspy_CG2, @GolfSpy AFG, @GolfSpy_SHARK, & @GolfSpy_KFT you guys are the absolute best of us and I’m proud to call each of you, my friend. 

    To @GolfSpy_APH, my sincere gratitude and admiration for not only the opportunity you have entrusted me with, but the ever steady hand with which you guide this ship. It has truly been one of the great pleasures of my life, finding this place. 

    Finally, if you made it this far, thank you for indulging my vanity post and know that you have a friend in me.

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    - Ben

    Ben I think I said it to you early on in your tenure that your contributions were greatly appreciated and again when you came on staff and everyday sense.   You---and the other staff-do so much behind the scenes that most people will never recognize, and it's appreciated by all of us.   

    And most importantly, I think if I were to look back early in your post on who doesn't want to hit blades, I may have made a contradictory post 😉   But as we have discussed recently among ourselves, you might be changing my views on that. 

    While I can't claim the same phrase @GolfSpy SAM coined of game recognizing game in this manor, I can say.

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  8. 8 hours ago, Bortery said:

    Living locally, I have not played at Kingsmill yet. I have had the opportunity to watch the LPGA play. 

    With that being said, wish they had a package for those that don’t need the lodging. Seeing how I live less than 30 minutes from the golf course. Being able to play all three courses would be a great long weekend, even for a local. 

    There are w few who have inquired about golf only.   As @cnosil said.  We wont know about adding those until the stay and play oackage js full need 2-3 more for that.  
     

    Keep checking here as we ger closer to see if that opens up. 

  9. On 3/11/2024 at 10:07 AM, rupp49er said:

    Let me start by saying that my swing was not good when I went for my fitting! Lots of low slices with way too much sidespin. I tried the QI10 Max, AI Smoke Max, Darkspeed Max, as well as the Dark Ops, and quite a few different shaft combinations with all of them. Way too much spin for me and not the improvement I had hoped to see in carry and yardage. Finally tried the Srixon ZX5 MK2 with a Tensei White S 65. Even with my poor swing the spin was much lower and the carry +10 yards over everything else I hit, and 17 yards over my current gamer. So it's in the bag for now. 2hrs on the simulator and had my swing in much better shape and was seeing even better results. Played yesterday and the horrible cut was back, I had a couple of nice drives with it but nothing was working, but I can't attribute that to the driver. Back to the range after work, I do feel that once I get back to my normal swing I am going to be happy with it but we will see.

    Glad you found one that worked for you.  I will have some more updates by the end of the week. 

  10. On 3/10/2024 at 3:21 PM, GolfSpy_APH said:

    Let's hear it! I've added several to my list since.

    Cobra S3 Max

    Cobra AMP

    Cobra AMP cell pro x2

    Mizuno jpx ez forged

    TaylorMade PSI

    Ping i e1

    Ping i210

    Sub 70 659 TC

    Cobra Fly z pro

    Ping anser forged

    TaylorMade P790

    Titleist T series combo

    Mizuno mp25

    ... Feel like I may be missing a set or two but that should cover it.

    @Golfspy_CG2 you have a week to start yours 😉

    Ok this will take a bit.  Not enough time tonight and busy with Titleist all tomorrow.   So maybe by Wednesday. 
     

    which gives me time to add a set or two 😬

  11. CARLSBAD, Calif. (Mar. 10, 2024) - Scottie Scheffler won his second Arnold Palmer Invitational behind an impressive bogey free five-stroke victory with his Qi10 8.0° driver and new Spider Tour X putter. It’s his seventh PGA TOUR victory, all coming since 2022 and with TaylorMade drivers and irons.

     

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    Scottie Scheffler Qi10 Driver

    After extensive testing at home prior to Bay Hill and during practice rounds, Scheffler put his Spider Tour X L-Neck putter in play for the first round.

    Entering Sunday T1, Scheffler dominated on the greens by leading the field in Strokes: Gained Putting for the final round behind going 17-for-17 on putts inside 15-feet. He backed that up with leading the field for the tournament in SG: Off the Tee with Qi10 8.0° driver.

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    Scottie’s Spider Tour X Spec

    Hosel: L-Neck

    Length: 35.5’’

    Sight Line: True Path with Full Line

    Loft: 3°

    Lie: 72°

    Insert: 80/20 Pure Roll

    Grip: Golf Pride Pistol

    In testing, True Path alignment with a full sight line freed Scottie up to not have to use an alignment aid on his golf ball. The technology behind Spider Tour X allowed him and his coach to rely on his natural talent without having to modify technique. Between True Path and high MOI stability of Spider Tour X, he felt free on off-center hits and noticed a considerable increase forgiveness in testing.

    Scottie Scheffler Spider Tour X

    The build from our TaylorMade tour reps paid dividends as Scottie posted three consecutive rounds of positive Strokes Gained Putting starting with the second round.  Scottie’s last 10 results when gaining positive strokes putting include four wins, a T2, solo 3rd, T3 and T4 (not in a particular order).

    Scottie Scheffler's Winning WITB

    Qi10 8.0° driver

    Qi10 15.0° 3-wood

    P·7TW 5-PW

    Spider Tour X

    Scottie’s Qi10 Driver Spec:

    Head: Qi10 8.0°

    Measured Loft: 8.25°

    Loft Sleeve: Upright (1.5° Sleeve)

    Shaft: Ventus Black 7X

    Length: 45’’

    Grip: Golf Pride Tour Velvet 58 Rib

    Tapes: 6

    Swingweight: D4

    STATS BEHIND THE WIN 

    The stats behind Scheffler’s win show how impressive of a win this was for the World No. 1.

    For the final round:

    1st in Strokes Gained: Total (+7.155)

    1st in SG: Putting (+3.892)

    1st in Scrambling (100% 6/6)

    T1 in Birdies Made (6)

    2nd in Putts per GIR (1.5)

    2nd in SG: Off the Tee (+1.981)

    3rd in Total Putts (24)

    T7 Driving Accuracy (10/14)

    T10 Greens in Regulation (12/18)

    For the tournament:

    1st in Strokes Gained: Total (+16.492)

    1st in SG: Off the Tee (+5.046)

    1st in Putts Per Green in Regulation (1.58)

    1st in SG: Around the Green (+3.786)

    2nd in Greens in Regulation (50/72)

    T2 in Birdies Made (20)

    5th in Strokes Gained Putting (+4.347)

    T6 in Total Putts (27.00)

    ADDITIONAL NOTABLE STATS

    Scheffler was 17-for-17 on putts inside 15-feet in the final round.

    Since the 2022 Phoenix Open, Scottie Scheffler leads the PGA TOUR in wins, top-5s, top-10s, Greens in Regulation, SG: Approach and SG: Tee-to-Green.

    Scottie’s scoring average so far this year is 67.32, nearly a full stroke better than his scoring average of 68.26 in 2023 which was the second-best scoring average in PGA TOUR history.

    Scheffler has finished in the Top 10 22 of 29 starts in the last two years (76% of starts) and has finished in the Top 10 for 41% of his starts on the PGA TOUR.

    Scottie’s last 10 results when gaining positive strokes putting include four wins, a T2, solo 3rd, T3 and T4.

    On the 11th hole on Saturday, Scheffler was 6-back of the lead and finished 10-under in the last 24 holes to claim the victory.

  12. 11 minutes ago, BCases said:

    The All-fit tips are bigger, heavier, uglier and break rather quickly.

    Totally subjective. 

    I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  The looks don't bother me at all, the ability to move between heads far outweighs that, and if anything my swing speed has gone up a notch.   And granted it's only been a week, but having hit over 100 shots with it on two different heads, I haven't had it break yet. 

     

     

  13. 2 hours ago, BNewton51 said:

    shows ya how much I paid attention! lol

    It actually popped up cause I think someone responded and back I got the alert up top on the screen.  But it is funny that the times change, but really not much.  It's all what ever is relevant.  and as you said, the 7 iron lofts now.... Back then we would have called people crazy for doing that! 😆

    Yeah, the old threads can pop up now and then.  Whenever I see a new topic come up that already has some responses t it, I'll check out the date to see if's an old one that someone has broujght back, as I burned once by not doing that in the comment I made about it.  But it's nice actually to see some old topics come up as we have had such huge growth in the last 2 to 5 years it gives a whole new audience a chance to chime in. 

  14. 54 minutes ago, BNewton51 said:

    Along those lines, I saw Crossfield on YouTube has done some of this with his Srixons.  He carry's two 6-irons.  The lofts are obviously different and each plays at a different distance.  I found it VERY ODD, but after thinking through what he was saying it kind of made sense if you want to do something along those lines.  

    But I do like the idea more to have lofts on there somewhere that would make it easier to tell.  

    Wow a 4 nearly 5 year old thread.  Sent me down memory lane, I really miss that combo of AP1/AP2, I think the 718  AP2 are some of the best looking irons I've ever had.   But yeah, just like Crossfield, if you read my post on the previous page from when this thread originally posted, I had two 7 irons, the AP1 was 30 and the AP2 was 34.    

    It also shows how 5 years ago we were talking about "loft jacking" --I hate that term-with a 30 degree 7 iorn---now Titleist and others are at 28 with a 7 in the T350--so it continues 🙂 

     

  15. 51 minutes ago, Shrek74 said:

    It was mentioned later in the thread, but this is why we should think very seriously about bringing back the loft stamping instead of iron numbers. The loft and internal differences made those two 7 irons play radically different. Thus it made sense to have one of each. The 7 iron of the AP1 played like a 6 of an AP2 I would assume, but gave you more forgiveness than an AP2 would. Plus I'm sure it filled the distance gap appropriately.

    This is on my list for fitting come May.

    In theory it would make sense to do that and in some ways eliminate confusion.

    But it would also confuse the occasional or avenge player, who really doesn't pay attention to lots. They don't know how far a 32 degree iron should go, but they know how far a 7 iron should go.  Even through  you and I know 7 irons can range between 28 and 34 degrees depending on the model and company. 

    But golf companies make equipment for the masses, not the 1% of golfers that are forum addicts 🙂   John Barba has written a couple  good articles on this discussion. 

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