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52 minutes ago, Goober said:
fascinating really. Why wedges and short irons tend to go left for people. And same person can miss mid and long shafted clubs right
Yep. Its why when people post and show their club soled flat or post talking about they don’t like seeing the toe in the air at address I already know they hate going to have issues with contact
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23 minutes ago, Goober said:
You mean handle lifted slightly, hands ahead, toe down slightly, square face . Is that what you call droop ?
No I’m talking about shaft droop. It’s the bending of the shaft near impact.
It’s a reason why determining lie angle is done dynamically and not just based of wrist to floor. Each shaft bends differently
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You can’t return it because of droop.
as you mention the pros return the handle higehr than address so why would anyone try to return the shaft at the same angle if the best in the world aren’t.
The golfer isn’t in the same position at impact that they were at address. They are further into their lead side and the lead side is raising thru impact. Handle goes up and club face goes down.
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24 minutes ago, DanieldR said:
From what I've been able to understand:
All golf shots (maybe with the exception of putts) have backspin, with more backspin resulting in less roll-out. Draws and fades are generated through sidespin. "All other things equal" therefore results in the same roll-out for a draw and a fade. In reality however, fades often have less roll-out due to the fact that fade spin is often accompanied by (more) backspin, which is in turn due to fade swings often having a more descending blow compared to draw swings. But this doesn't have to be the case, a drive with a 2 yard fade that was hit upward will have more roll-out than a drive with a 2 yard draw hit downward (all other things equal
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Roll out on fades and draws are not always equal. It’s why fades are preferred off driver by the pros. They are more predicable in their end result. A draw can easily run out a lot more than expected due to spin.
Balls can only spin a single axis. Side spin and backspin are just spin.
What if I told you my fades and draws have very similar spin numbers? There are no absolutes in golf. What if I told you this people hit a draw and a fade with and ascending blow on driver and they both shots can be hit with an inside to out swing?
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1 hour ago, DaveP043 said:
This! Proper sequence is the key, in my opinion. If you do things in the right order, you'll get the most out of your swing.
In almost every amateur swing including some very low hdcps including some + it’s missing to some degree. Theres a poster on wrx that basically just lifts his hands and has no rotation or pressure shift in his swing but makes it work to a 3 handicap. So it’s not impossible to play good golf without it but it makes it harder and more inconsistent
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13 minutes ago, mardukes said:
I see him being painted by the imbecilic sports journalists as some sort of fringe character. I could be imagining it, but to make the case is a cultural discussion that would be frowned upon by MGS authorities who would label it "political".
Sinister? Scottie is just as much a killer at the moment as Tiger, Faldo, Mickelson, Nicklaus, Miller, Hogan... (Spieth when he was actually winning something.)
He is certainly blessed, but not just lucky. As the commodity traders on the floor would say, he's no boy scout.
Again with the sinister term. He’s not sinister.
I don’t think anyone is painting him to be a boy scout nor does what you posted indicate he’s some bad boy. Going to a bar with coaches and managers isn’t some sinister move nor is it some rebellious thing either.
I don’t think he’s a killer like Tiger. Nobody was on that level. Scottie is just focused on his game and doing what he needs to do on the course to give himself success. He happens to be good at ball striking and short game and doest get himself into too much trouble.
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34 minutes ago, mardukes said:
Used to be -- and I believe Spieth got fined for failure -- that tour players HAD TO play x number of "lesser" events. Now the only motivation is to make "next 10" which is not a motivation for the "crowned" 50. I'm not going to do the math, but the difference seems likely to be enhanced.
Agreed, Scottie has legitimately established his #1 position vs the "full field". I'm just underscoring the point that he doesn't have to from here out; unlikely to give up #1 in the foreseeable future. IMHO he would be up to the task should he have to face them. I think he's the most evident killer out there.
Still required to add an event. 2b of the players handbook.
even if he did the lead he has on the rest of the golfers in the top 5 would take most than the 2024 season to catch him.
he makes the cut in 84% of the events he plays. He finishes inside the top 10 roughy 50% of the cuts he makes. That consistency it hard to make up points on by guys who aren’t making the same amount of cuts and having the same amount of top 10s.
Rahm is slightly better in those stats. Rahm has 2 more wins on tour than Scottie and Scottie has 2 less years on tour.
Smith has only made 71% of cuts and only finishes top 10 28% of the made cuts.
the numbers don’t lie and data>feelings
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1 hour ago, mardukes said:
Again, GolfWRX (maybe not as chaste as y'all imagine):
Ben Hoggard for Golf Channel…Scottie Scheffler’s victory celebrations are notably low-key, which makes his post-Masters victory lap noteworthy.
Scheffler made a late-night detour to a Dallas dive bar called Inwood Tavern early Monday morning following his second consecutive triumph at Augusta National.
"I don’t really frequent that place very often. I don’t know if I’d actually been to that place before. There was another tavern around the corner that I’d been to a few times and it’s a nice place but shockingly it wasn’t open Sunday at 1:30 in the morning. This place [Inwood Tavern] was open,” Scheffler said on Wednesday at the RBC Heritage. “On the plane ride home I was with my manager Blake [Smith] and my coach Randy [Smith] and then I had four of my good buddies with me, I don’t remember who suggested it, but it seemed like a good idea.”
The point?
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55 minutes ago, mardukes said:
All very good points, but to the question of OWGR unseating, the LIV guys are NOT around to challenge Scottie.
Scotty has been number 1 ranked player for somewhere close to 50 weeks so he was dealing with Rahm and some of the weaker field guys like Niemann. Scottie’s game is far and above everyone’s. His strokes gained rankings in tee to green and approach show that. Strokes gains approach is the #1 strokes gained stat.
Of the guys on liv the only ones with a chance to challenge Scottie if they were around would be Rahm, Bryson if healthy and Koepka if he cared about anything but the majors. Nobody else on that tour is top 10 level.
1 hour ago, mardukes said:The McIlroy/Cantlay/Aberg/... set don't have to go up against the Rahm/Cam Smith/DeChambeau/... crew
All 3 of these have perform well while the other 3 were around. Mcilroy despite his struggles has been top 5.
1 hour ago, mardukes said:. I wonder if this also leads to greater separation between the Signature Tour and the DP USA. The more the Sig guys stay away from DP USA venues, the less valuable the ranking of those fields (for OWGR points.)
Assume what you are saying here is that about the top level pga tour members not playing in some of the smaller events and only focusing on the bigger events that the smaller events won’t get as many owgr points. Thats always been the case. Top 50 golfers and especially top 25 typically don’t play the smaller events which is why the tour put in the policy that if someone don’t add an event to their schedule they have to play 25 times a year. The top players set their schedule so they have enough rest and don’t play more than a few weeks in a row and have some on course time around the majors. Its why some will skip the pga tour the week before the open and play overseas the week before.
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Many have the hit instinct. Then there are moves that we consider to be powerful but in the golf swing they aren’t.
Having proper sequence along with a good rhythm will help with the not trying to kill it mentality.
Many talk tempo but we all have different tempos. Watch different tour players and their tempos are different but the rhythm of their swings are all pretty close
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#2 is spot on.
#4 and #5 are
When i see comments about willing to sacrifice distance for fairways I just cringe. Or the playing to a number whether off the tee or on a second shot on a par 5.
Outdated ways of playing golf. Not to mention how many times people have ended up hitting a bad shot while trying to play safe off the tee and just made things worse
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Anything higher lofted than 50° doesn’t get a full swing.
I don’t have a go to wedge, I use what the shot calls for, whether it’s distance, pin location, lie or even green conditions.
i keep most shots pretty basic.
height is controlled by speed especially on chips and shorter pitches. Ball position usually stays the same. More speed keeps the ball lower, trajectory comes up as speed goes down which also requires a change in length of swing
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24 minutes ago, DaveP043 said:
This isn't surprising to me at all, the guy who makes his money by teaching golf swing says that golf swing is more important than speed training, the guy who makes his money from speed training says the opposite. I think each one is correct at times, depending on the individual player. My personal experience, as a semi-competent and experienced swinger, my swing DID seem to become more efficient through Stack sessions, and I find I'm hitting it straighter on the course.
Monte is also a world long drive champion, a former tour pro with time on what is now the kft, an instructor that the likes of Chris como invite to present with him at the pga show, companies like hack motion invite to do seminars.
Using the ground properly is how one gain speed. It’s why guys smaller guys on tour have the ability ti hit it 300 yards.
he doesn’t knock speed training, he says it has its time and place, it it’s not for those who have inefficient swings. And as mentioned one of the members here was told by his coach to stop speed training because it was causing regression in his swing work. That member had reported speed gains
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27 minutes ago, GolfSpy AFG said:
That’s not consistent with Sasho McKenzie’s findings, wherein speed training golfers often find improved technique as they learn how to more efficiently create speed in their swing.
Do you have experience in speed training yourself?
I do and I also have experience as a personal trainer and have spent the last 4 years learning about the golf swing and how to teach. I have two people I’ve worked with in person on their swing. One already had a good swing and shoots in the low-mid 70s. He wanted to improve his driving so we spent some time making small adjustments to setup and takeaway.
The other was the typical high handicap who also never played any racquet or stick sports. He went from never breaking 100 to breaking 90 regularly and a few rounds in the 80s on tough courses.
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8 hours ago, GolfSpy AFG said:
Sure, there are exceptions to the general notion that most would benefit from speed training.
Most people have an inefficient swing. When you put speed training on top of that it makes the bad swing worse.
Does the person get faster, sure just like weight training, even with some bad technique one can get stronger, but it doesn’t improve their technique and it can create more inefficiency in the movement.
With the golf swing despite the added speed it doesn’t translate to the course because you have to react to the where the club it at and the brain is going to get the body to slow down to let the necessary parts catch up and you end up with no speed gains on the course.
now take that same inefficient swing and work on improving pressure shifts, rotation and using the ground and one will easily pick up 5-10mph.
Instructors get students extra speed just by improving their swing. I’ve read Monte talk about students he has going from 80mph swings with driver to 100 or more, 90 mph guys reaching over 100. Adding speed to a bad swing is a recipe to have bigger misses or no change at all for on course play
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16 hours ago, jaskanski said:
For me that is the biggest issue - 100% fitness. Mentally, that isn't in question (at present) - physically though, that swing is going to take it's toll on his body eventually - and that's what the biggest obstacle to multiple wins/majors/holding on to #1 status will be IMO.
What evidence or medical training, coaching or other experience of any kind do you have to indicate anything he is doing in his swing will cause an injury?
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4 hours ago, mcgolfme said:
I love you guys and read or listen to most of what you do, that said I think you're off base on your expectations of Augusta RE apparel. Think about it, they regulate no running, no cell phones, there are many things that players and caddies must adhere to that they don't at other tournys. Frankly I'm happy they keep their level of control, Wimbledon just started allowing (tasteful) colors in their championship for pete's sake. And yes, there are many logos and 'advertising' on players clothes, shoes hats etc., I don't think they were saying no Malbon, just no gross wearable billboards please. ?! So the question then is what is the sizing standard, is it subjective, or will they institute a wearables grid on sizing, certainly certain words or phrases would be disallowed as well....I think Augusta remains in control as they have been, and we won't see the Masters become a Phoenix S.....t Sh....w as they won't allow it. Perhaps Malbon or Day could have asked first and said hey, this ok ? or maybe they knew and went for the free publicity.... what say y'all...
Because the hippies and anti dress code crowd will be after you.
i agree with you. The piece wasn’t great and missed the point of what the issues was. But it’s not the only opinion piece on the main page that has issues, but I digress.
I like what Augusta does along with Wimbledon.
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2 hours ago, jolter1 said:
Personally I feel it has to do with a number of reasons, PGATour/LIV feud, fan empathy, lack of big names in competition both on Saturday and Sunday. The sooner the majors adjust to having some form of formula to allow all of the top golfers in the world competing, their tv ratings as a whole will decrease. As for the PGA Tour weekly broadcasts, they will steadily go downhill unless some form of resolution is completed, along with their "top" performers start acting like top performers in their regular events.
2 hours ago, jayyarr said:The PGA LIV issues makes far more sense for the fact PGA and LIV are struggling with viewership on a weekly basis don't really think it would make sense to be the reason a major may have been down since this is one of the 4 instances a year where they two come together. Other than the last 6 holes of the tournament there were plenty of big names in contention basically the whole week. I am curious if you look at the fact that the sport has always had issues with an aging population and younger generations gravitating more towards things like YouTube content would play into people caring less about professional golf in general too.
Again people aren’t watching tv like they used to and streaming services are very popular especially since one can be out and about and still watch. ESPN+ had over 3 million viewers for rounds 1 and 2. Who knows how many were on the masters app or another streaming service.
Talking about viewership numbers on tv without looking at what they are measuring which isn’t the viewership numbers where there are multiple proper watching at home, at an establishment that has TVs. It was on at the gym i go to.
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43 minutes ago, Preeway said:
I've been a low single digit handicapper most all of my adult life and was always an average 260ish off the tee kind of player. Lack of distance can be overcome with sharpness in other areas. I know what the strokes gained stats say. More distance may lead to better scoring. "May" is the key word though.
Let’s talk the 260 number. That is 10 yards past what is used to define a scratch golfer.
Yes we know lack of distance can be overcome and strokes gained tells us on a shorter course the shorter hitter has the advantage. We also know that those who excel in their approach game and around the green despite being shorter play better and that distance isn’t everything. If it was then cam champ and 5-10 other golfers would be where shorter hitters like Scheffler , Morikawa, Harmon and hovland are. Major winners and/or ranked high in owgr.
The amateur who can’t hit it as far has to work even harder to make up for being short. Not only on approach shots (most important strokes gained stat) and around the green (also pretty high ranking strokes gained stat)
There’s no guarantee in anything golf related that makes scoring easier. If so then the cam champs of the world wouldn’t be ranked 278th in the world.
Strokes gained says closer regardless of rough or fairway is better than further back in the rough. It tells us closer to the hole means better proximity to the hole which leads to increased make percentage on putts.
distance makes the game easier
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1 hour ago, Shifty said:
with lessons just on my iron swing last year, a side effect was my driver carried 30 yards further with no speed or driver training.
Not surprised. The sequence of the movements of the swing don’t change much from an iron to a driver. The plane changes due to length of club and distance from the ball. Things like aoa will take care of themselves with a good swing
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Listening to others feedback on a club or shaft should be the last thing anyone does. How something performs for someone has almost no application to how it performs for someone else because we all have different swings even if someone’s swing speed or handicap is the same, play we all have our own preferences for sounds, looks and feel.
As to your skytrak findings. Did you test the stealth 2 on it? If not then it’s hard to say what’s different between the fittings on a high level monitor vs skytrak
1 hour ago, OnePutt11 said:Do certain shafts only go with certain driver heads?
For some a shaft may not work as good in another head because of feel, weight, balance and so on.
1 hour ago, OnePutt11 said:Why wouldnt the original shaft be fitted with the TD?
How the shaft is designed and the design of the TD head can impact your delivery of the club which will change contact point on the face, dynamic loft, face angle, face to path and swing path. All these will affect launch, spin, peak height, descent angle, could be negative, positive or no affect.
1 hour ago, OnePutt11 said:I have never been a technical guy, but I am not getting a good feel with thisdriver set up. I have read nothing but great reviews for the AI TD Smoke. Should I wait until I am outdoors before making any changes
There are no bad clubs on the market, only bad fits for the golfer. Again basing purchases off other people’s experiences with golf clubs where feel has a big role in how a club is swung is a bad thing. Personal experience is the only thing that matters.
Did you do your fitting indoors or outdoors?
I would see what the performance is outdoors before deciding anything.
1 hour ago, OnePutt11 said:Any advice is appreciated. I will say the fitters were more than generous with their time and I am sure someone like me is annoying. Side question, are the carry and distance numbers always far off with Skytrak vs Quad?
General advice would be to trust what your preferences are and if the results are worth it to upgrade
quad is far better than skytrak
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51 minutes ago, GolfSpy AFG said:
True, but distance is a huge enabler to lower scores. The closer you are on approach, and with increased speed in general, you can put shorter clubs in your hand. Proximity to hole in turn goes up, meaning more makeable putts.
Not disagreeing with you, you can absolutely play to a scratch driving it 250, but it’s easier to do it driving it 270. It’s why I feel speed training is almost a must-do if your really want to lower your score to the fullest extent possible.Speed training can be a detriment to those with bad swings and those who fix their swing will gain speed through that alone. Speed training with a bad swing ends up causing more problems than it helps because it creates bad movement patterns on top of already bad movement patterns. Good to great coaches have touched on this and one of the members here was told by their coach to stop speed training because his swing regressed
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1 hour ago, Preeway said:
I agree that both articles bring up some very good points but I don't know how transferable it is to the ordinary person who isn't playing virtually every day. I think there is much more to be made about the value of lessons, followed by practice, followed by lessons again, with more practice. Seems like a lot of people don't really get how hard it is to refine the specific skills that lead to a round in the 70s. Specifically, putting and chipping. You don't need to drive it more than 250 yards to play scratch golf. It helps, but distance isn't as much of a limiting factor as lack of short game and putting can be.
Distance can be a huge limiting factor. Just look at strokes gained stats.
Also disagree with the playing every day or practicing. I got to sub 10 with playing at most 3 rounds a month and 2-3 hours practice a week while also playing baseball 2 times a week. As mentioned in the articles, having clubs that match the swing, minimizing the mistakes (better course management along with better swing) and working on short game.
two friends I played with are self taught, never played a sport that required a bat or racket and got to sub 10.
The shorter one hits it or the worse their shots are off the tee puts more pressure on the short game. The 4th guy in our group hit a banana ball off the the struggled to hit the green on most par 4s and all par 5s were 3 shot holes on courses that were 6000-6300 yards. He had to work hard at short game to make up for that in order to say between an 8–12 handicap. He would be on the higher end of the range when he struggled around the green
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56 minutes ago, NotQuite70s said:
Ben Hogan was apparently so-so at putting. If you are good enough tee to green (and have Scottie's short game skills) that can get it done. Since he brought on a putting coach, maybe even that aspect of his game will improve and he can further distance himself from the pack.
Scottie proved that you can win when you don’t putt great but he also proved that it can be a weakness and cost you wins.
when you dominate the important strokes gained categories you can win when not so great at the lesser ones like strokes gained putting.
It was as much the switch to the mallet as it was the putting coach that turned his strokes gained putting stats around. He’s gained around 2.3 strokes since the switch
Who Can Overtake Scottie For #1?
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You do know it was vertigo that derailed Duval and not him checking out. Also didn’t help that he started chasing distance because of a tiger.