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  1. So I've done this a fair bit and I like it. It's not easy and when you screw up, there isn't much you can do about it. I've seen the big magnets, but for how often I do it, it's just not worth the money. I would suggest laying out some tape as a straight edge and that seemed to help a bit. I've thought about doing a sticker or something that I could use to make a pattern, but I haven't gone too far down that road as of yet. 

    I got my block and a set of stamps from here https://www.clubstamping.com/ I read a lot places don't make stamps hard enough to get into the wedge and I've never had an issue with these. I don't love the text style, but I could purchase some more from somewhere else. 

    It's a lot of fun and rewarding, but man it's stressful. Seeing what guys like Taranto and Dill do, just amazes me. 

  2. Communicate with your fitter. Be clear on your goals, your swing, your budget, etc. Any fitter worth their salt, will ask you these things and more. Ask for an explanation of the data. Most good fitters are using high quality machines that take in a ton of data points. Based on your knowledge of the swing, they will walk you through these data points and what they are looking for in each category.

    Make sure that your swing is ready for your fitting. If you come in after months of not hitting or playing sparingly, you might get very different data than from when you are in the groove. Ask questions! Learn as much as you can. Come in with an idea of the type of iron you want, but give your fitter a chance to do their job.

    I know this is about trusting your fitter, but you have to do a bit of research and rely on the experts here. If you're getting a bad vibe, go with your gut. Don't just assume that you're being sold something. Think of it as you're paying for your fitter's time and expertise; not that you're paying for new clubs. Plus you can always take the data you're given and go back and try it out again on your own to see if you're seeing the same results before pulling the trigger.

  3. On 2/12/2024 at 3:59 AM, GolfSpy_APH said:

    Testers Announced!

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    The TaylorMade Qi10 drivers were one of our most requested products for member testing. It is no surprise to see why, either, with several PGA Tour pros putting them into their bags immediately from launch, and even Colin Morikawa finally replacing his original TaylorMade SIM in favor of the new TaylorMade Qi10 Max. Yes, that’s correct—a tour player using the Max head.

    About The TaylorMade Qi10 Series

    The series of drivers consists of three models: the Qi10 Max, Qi10 LS (low spin), and Qi10 Standard. Each has slightly different weight placements, but only the LS model includes a moveable weight.

    The big story for these drivers is forgiveness. TaylorMade has created its first driver with 10k MOI points. To read all the finer details of why this matters, you can see our full overview here: TaylorMade Qi10 Drivers First Look 

    The shorter version is TaylorMade has leveraged a multi-material design, relocated mass, and improved shapes to achieve maximum forgiveness within each model while claiming to still retain all the speed (and therefore distance) characteristics.

    Other big changes to the driver include the face and crown. Where previous versions for years had a clear distinction between where the titanium support met the carbon crown, the Qi10 features a clean glossy black crown with a new blue carbon face. The blue replaces the red of the Stealth models and is their third generation of carbon driver face.

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    Please welcome and congratulate our 6 testers!

    TaylorMade Qi10 LS
    @Jmikecpa
    @GolfSpy_BEN

    TaylorMade Qi10 Standard
    @IndyBonzo
    @EMacK1961

    TaylorMade Qi10 Max
    @Hook DeLoft
    @Michael.Sandoval33

    Congrats guys! Hit'em long and straight!

  4. 6 hours ago, buckpillar said:

    McGolf would probably know that answer off the top of his head, I thinking it will take either size tip into the hosel.

    I’m sure he would! I watch a lot of his videos and I watched him have to almost round the tip of a shaft to make it fit. Just wanted to be sure before I bought/got one either way.

    8 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

    I would imagine it's .355

    If you give me till tomorrow morning I can get it for you 100%

    I have a 4 iron that's been doing nothing the last few years and can pull it and measure.

    That’s awesome! Thanks!

  5. Hey Spies! My brother lost his 9 iron and doing a rebuild for him. It’s the original Cobra Forged Tec with the orange on the badge. I looks at the GolfWorks chart and it said “universal tip size.” I’ve rebuilt a few irons and wedges and haven’t run across this yet. So am I better off getting a .355 and putting a shim on it or getting a .370 and just going from there? Any special advice or tips would be appreciated!

  6. On 12/18/2023 at 5:49 PM, Josh Parker said:

    Introduction:

    I want to first say thanks to MGS and FlightScope for this incredible opportunity.  My name is Josh (hence the screen name) and I am out of Austin, Texas.  Born and raised.  I got involved in this great community just by chance, looking through some articles and it has been amazing.  Just about everyone on here has been helpful, knowledgeable and most of all kind.  In today’s social media world, it’s a pleasant surprise.

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    I live in a small lakeside golf course community just north of Austin.  I am married and have two small children.  My seven-year-old son has shown some interest in golf, but he really enjoys going out on the course and just hanging out with me and filling the divots.  My almost three-year-old daughter (going on 21) loves to ride in the “tart tart” and trying to hit the golf ball like daddy. 

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    For work, my wife and I are both in real estate.  I made the decision almost 4 years ago to pursue this career in order to have more time with my kids while they are young.  Leaving behind a great career in construction was a major decision but one that I don’t regret for a second.

    I started playing golf about 20 years ago in a small town because some co-workers asked me to play.  Being a lefty, I didn’t have any clubs but one of the guys that worked in the clubhouse was a lefty and had an extra set that he gave me to play with.  They were the Wilson Staff Deep Red Tour irons.  I was instantly hooked by the challenge and the opportunity to get better.   I would play three or four times a week and was down to a 3-handicap playing with the local “noon” group.  My best round was a 2 under 70 with a birdie on 9 and 18 and I remember all the old guys throwing a fit because I was moving back to Austin, and they wouldn’t be able to win their money back.  It didn’t matter that they had taken my money for years, so I declined the few bucks and had them sign the scorecard.  Once back in Austin, golf eluded me for a number of years, only playing occasionally when I would get the opportunity, but I knew I wanted to get back to the game. 

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    Fast forward to this past year and a half, I get to play or practice golf just about every day and my handicap is down to a 5.  If you have seen my posts or thread about my goals and pursuit of earning the coveted “break 70” badge, you also know my struggles with the driver.

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    This brings me to the Mevo testing.

    FlightScope’s tagline states: Practice with purpose using FlightScope Mevo – an accurate, portable, and affordable launch monitor that gives golfers performance data they can trust.

    Can a sub $500 launch monitor really improve my game? 

    Can it help me finally stop hating my driver?

    I will be equipping the Mevo with the iPad app and utilizing it primarily at the range but also have the net set up in the backyard to do testing. 

    Mevo offers 8 data parameters that I will be collecting data from on day one until the testing is complete in order to see if I can take this information and make the necessary changes to my swing to improve my numbers.

    Carry Distance, Spin Rate, Club Speed, Ball Speed, Vertical Launch, Smash Factor, Apex Height, Flight Time

    For testing purposes, I will be using 3 clubs and the lucky participants are, PW, 7I, and Driver.

    Mevo doesn’t just offer data, they also offer skills challenges so that you can make practicing fun. 

    FS PGA & LPGA Challenge – Compare your stats to the latest stats of the pros. (This one scares me)

    FS Long Drive Challenge – What will this look like at the beginning vs the end of the test?

    FS Range Challenge – All about distance control and makes for a fun practice round.

    If there are particular things that you want to know or see tested, please leave a comment or shoot me a message. 

    First Impressions

    When the UPS guy showed up at the house, we were expecting two packages.  The Mevo and the wife's watch. 

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    I was shocked that the watch box was twice the size of the Mevo.  I started to wonder what was actually sent to me.

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    Upon opening the box, the first thing I saw was high quality packaging.  The box is magnetic, and the presentation was great! 

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    It comes with a charging cord, quickstart quide, protective pouch and metallic dots.  

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    It is amazing that such a small unit can pack so much data and I am excited to see how accurate it will be and how it can improve my game.

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    I give it an A+ for my initial impression.

     

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    I know the feeling of letting golf slip away with two youngsters at home! I've got a 10 and 7 year old and I feel like 2023 was the least amount of golf I've ever played. I hope that this is accurate and it helps you get back to that low single digit number from before!

  7. 13 hours ago, storm319 said:

    By nature par is a relatively arbitrary reference point. If players are averaging well under par on a particular hole, then par should change. 

    True, but what's the cutoff? Across the entire PGA tour season for 2022, the average scoring on par 5s was 4.83. The top 50 guys were averaging under 4.5 strokes for all par 5s. The average at #13 last year was 4.85 after the addition of length. The lowest it's ever been has been 4.47. 

  8. 4 hours ago, storm319 said:

    Simple solution for ANGC #13…move up a tee box and change it to a par 4 for that one week per year.

    I feel that takes away some of the risk/reward of the hole. I know most guys make 4 anyway, but there are big numbers waiting for guys that are too aggressive. Eagle is huge and 5 doesn't kill you. I think that will take a bit of mystique out of amen corner.

  9. On 10/3/2023 at 6:45 AM, PMookie said:

    Chipping and pitching yips Champ of 2022 at your service! Yep, the bane of my golf existence these days!!! I have NO idea how they developed, when exactly, or why, but here I am, the CHAMP!
     

    I’ve been golfing for over 40 years, my Dad was a HS golf coach and my favorite days were riding around on the cart during practice being able to drop balls here-and-there. When he took me to play early-on we went to Pat’s Par 3 so I could learn the game from appropriate distances, and only when I became strong enough did he move me to full-size course play. I still remember the day he told me I was ready for my first REAL round! Today that par 3 course is the famous Miles Of Golf in Ypsilanti, Michigan. I still love to go-by there whenever I get back home!

    Born-and-raised in SE Michigan, first year of college at Kalamazoo College to play hoops, then off to Appalachian State University in Boone, NC, one of the most beautiful places you’ll ever see! I played golf in HS, did play in the Ann Arbor Jr Open one summer, so I liked to play competitively. I absolutely fell in love with Mountain golf in NC. We played an inexpensive course once the snow melted as the course was part of the ski slopes during the winter. Yeah, to this day I prefer mountain golf to any other! I had my first hole-in-one on that course in a tournament (my second hole in one came years later at Fazio Foothills #9 hole at Barton Creek in Austin, TX).
     

    I live in NE Louisiana and play as much as I can. A recent divorce set me back a bit, but the course and range is still where I love to go to get peace-of-mind, be active, and be outside. I play most rounds with a former student and player who was on the HS golf team where I coached. I won my flight of the Monroe Open 8 years ago, but have only played in scrambles since. I play a semi-private course and it’s a good test albeit very flat due to the topography here in the Mississippi Delta. I’m a father of 3, dating again, and looking forward to the future!!!

    I’m excited about this test because I’ve been through a lot of different types and brands of wedges over the years. Most recently I have been playing Edel SMS, and for those who know me on here over the past 10 plus years, y’all know I’ve been an Edel “fan boy” getting to know the guys there very well. As my opening few sentences let you know I need as much forgiveness as I can get right now with my wedges. I’ve REALLY been enjoying my i230 U wedge and have built some confidence with it, so adding a couple more for which I have the same feeling would be great. Shot-wise around the green I’m a bump-and-run guy, it’s old school, what my Dad taught me in the 70s, I hardly ever play a flop, so if I can use the 8 iron and run the ball to the hole I’m going to! I hit the ball VERY high due to overly active hands and arms, so I’m interested to see how much lower my ball flight goes with the Edison 2.0. What would I need to see to bag these babies? Similar distances, increased GIR, lower ball flight, and similar spin. If I can be more “accurate” and hit it lower, I’ll be a happy man.

    My bag is all Ping until wedges and putter:

    Ping G430 Max driver, LST 3w, and 4 hybrid, i230 irons 4-UW, 50/54/58 Edel SMS wedges, and Edel EAS 1.0 putter.

    I’m looking forward to this opportunity, and I’m very thankful to both Edison and MGS for including me! Have a blessed day!!! Here we go!!!!

     

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    FINAL REVIEW!

    First Impressions 15/20

    I was very impressed by the Edison 2.0 wedges immediately upon taking them out of the box, even the shipping was nicely done especially with the inclusion of the hat! I liked the look of the wedges, the colors, the matte finish, the weight, etc. The only think I didn’t care for was the two-tone finish on the face just because I’d been playing a “single finish” face for years. I liked the dual sole wedge and was familiar with Koehler sole from Scor wedges, and the similar sole on Srixon irons I’d played for years.

    Aesthetics: 8/10 with the deduction being for the dual color face

    Feel-wise I really liked the Edison 2.0 on full shots. There was something about the combination of the face and shaft that on well-struck shots it had this “powerful” feel to it! It was addicting! One night at the range I was absolutely flushing everything so I had this feel coming as feedback over and over again. I was hitting to a green/flag and it wasn’t like the balls were going significantly farther than ones hit with my Edel wedges, but it sure felt like they were going 20-30 yards further! When I chipped and pitched I did not get the same feel at all. I actually didn’t enjoy the feel very much around the green and I’m not sure if I could narrow it down to one specific aspect of the clubface. I think I can chalk-up the issue with feel on chipping due to hitting balls further out toward the toe and the head being tilted toe down, but it’s just a guess. Full shots: loved the feel. Short shots: didn’t love the feel.

    Feel: 7/10

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    The Numbers 2/10

    Ok, here’s where we get down to brass tax. I purposely held off showing my Trackman numbers until the review for a reason feeling it would give away too much of my review if I posted them a few weeks back, so here goes. To start with, the whole purpose of doing a review for MGS is to put the manufacturer claims to the test and see if they hold-up for average Joe’s, weekend golfers, so what I was testing were the claims that these would be more forgiving, fly lower, and spin more. Ok, what did I see? Whether it be on the range, on the course, and especially on Trackman, for ME, not a single one of these claims held-up. I didn’t hit more greens than with my Edels on-course from the same distances. Balls did not fly any lower than my Edels in any situation, and my Edels spun more which was seen both on-course, and on Trackman. There’s even a picture I posted showing how balls were backing-up whether I hit them with my Edels or with the Edison 2.0 but the Edels backed-up FEET further! The minute I got these unwrapped and got to the course  I was SO ready to see lower ball flight from ball one! Ball one.. Ball 20, ball 100, none went lower than my Edel SMS! Shocked. I had numerous Edison users tell me it really noticeable so I thought something might be wrong, but the balls off the Edisons never went any lower than my current gamers in any situation. So, here are the numbers from TrackMan: first launch and peak height. Edel 54 launch was 29.1 with peak height of 94. Edison 53 launched also at 29.1 and had a peak height of 102, so 8 feet HIGHER! Edel 58 launched at 30.8 and hit a peak height of 91, and the Edison 57 took off at 30.2 and flew up around 90, so no real difference. SPIN: Edel 54 spun at 10936, Edison 53 was 10312 (624 less), Edel 58’s spin was 11668, and Edison 57 was 11375 (293 less). In summary, with the numbers I saw really the only category that Edison won would be distance, but the shafts were also ½” longer than my gamers.IMG_3821.jpeg.1ca1a93e2a4340d6b3485792c6f412ec.jpegIMG_3819.jpeg.2636cd15231e8b81cdebac2ee8aabd7b.jpegIMG_3820.jpeg.524655766ca4b563078d1b6e4ac24490.jpegIMG_3822.jpeg.54826a41ee2810c1c429fc4198d37c21.jpegIMG_3826.jpeg.2808fa60f04f7c6884dd692c639f6242.jpegIMG_3827.jpeg.9f2f000fadea732a730b4235db6ab045.jpegIMG_3828.jpeg.7259918d7edccf5dda1f56b52d2cc8b3.jpegIMG_3829.jpeg.69d6e0378f6dfcfdbf8a614f6ec18683.jpeg

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    On-Course 10/20

    I’ve pretty much already addressed everything I saw on-course when I posted and added pictures, and addressed it above in the previous categories. I will say I thought that on-course full shots was where I would see these shine just because of that powerful feeling I got with these on flushed shots at the range, and with Edison’s claims of more forgiveness. I thought for SURE I’d hit more greens, miss “closer”, see a difference from my Edels, but I just didn’t. Add to the fact that the grinds just didn’t work for me around the greens where I struggle most and these just weren’t for me on-course at all.

    Good, Bad, In-Between 10/20

    The good for me were the looks and powerful feel of the wedges. The bad was that these didn’t perform up to any of the claims made by Edison. The in-between comes down to this… These were not fitted to me at all and, to be honest, I really didn’t think these could beat my Edels for this reason alone. The shafts were too soft from a flex and tip standpoint (KBS Tour S vs my Nippon Modus 130 X), they were also too long at an extra 1/2” over my Edels making it that much harder to hit the sweet spot on full shots and even worse when it was time to grip down and chip around the greens. The Edel fitting is pretty extensive, at least the one I did, and we tried a TON of different shafts and not just brands. We tried various stiffnesses, lengths, weights, etc., we really zeroed-in my wedges for me and my swing. There was just no way the Edisons could compete with that. I would LOVE to have a true fitting with the Edisons, and THEN have them go head-to-head to make it a true test.IMG_2608.jpeg.3a6b0718cea5a391c79729d38363942a.jpegIMG_2618.jpeg.66217223ec5b2902fa2a048c261487f4.jpegIMG_2612.jpeg.7c055b0b88baeff2f6f918c36a896c29.jpegIMG_3280.jpeg.359ff2aa32913c6478cfa821cca28b9f.jpegIMG_3272.jpeg.464b4c0945a09ea54947959382d67e95.jpeg

    Play it or Trade it 10/20

    After getting this far in the review I think it’s safe to say you all know my answer here… Trade them. They will not be going into my bag, and I probably won’t spend the money on getting Nippon shafts and having them built similarly to the Edels because just the grinds alone don’t work for me. I want to be clear that these are QUALITY clubs! They just aren’t for ME… I don’t want anyone to think I’m bashing Edison in any way, shape or form because I’m not. If one looks up the Edison threads, and looks at the other reviews here they will see much different results, so don’t just read my review and make assumptions. Edison has a free trial program so it’s always best to take advantage of those specials and see how they do for you!

    Overall Score 47/100

    I sincerely thank Edison Golf and MGS for giving me the opportunity to participate in this review, my first of wedges on MGS. I really appreciate being included!

     

    Awesome review! Great to hear about someone from SE Michigan even if you've moved! I've always been curious about the Edisons, but I've never gotten along with a V sole in a wedge. I feel like they just skip and I blade everything out of the bunker. Good to hear about the Edels though, they are on my list!

  10. 4 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

    Those things would change the distances in some cases, maybe affect the approach off the tee, the problem is that the PGA tour doesn’t want to do that. They are promoting distance with their course setups and don’t have any problems with distance. The ruling bodies don’t regulate how the PGA tour setups up their tournament courses so those type of things won’t get done. Which again gets to the point of there being a distance issue and it actually being the ruling bodies creating a solution looking for a problem

    Agreed! They want to show the athleticism and power on tour, but now we want to roll that back? I don't get it. I know Tiger talked about not having enough land, but look at number 13 at Augusta as one example. You're telling me that ANGC couldn't cut some trees down or move that tee box 10 or 15 yards farther left to force a certain shot shape? and bring more problems into play? 

    The courses don't want their setups to be considered too hard (minus the Memorial) because players might not come back. I feel like they haven't exhausted all their options, but they just said, "Here let's do this!"

  11. I feel like there are plenty of other things to do instead of rolling the ball back. Soften the fairways, grow the rough, narrow the fairways, use tighter doglegs with more trees, etc. The recreational golfer doesn't hit it far enough anyway. I don't think that companies will be happy with bifurcation either. That means more molds, more tech, more research at different levels and that will cost them more money.  This could end up like the wedge thing where everyone freaked out about the groove rollback and now they spin as much or more than ever. I'll play the waiting game, but I will probably stock up for a while as 2030 approaches.

  12. On 5/26/2023 at 3:03 PM, Torden Golf said:

    Thanks very much or the compliment, much appreciated. I do have a 42 inch belt machine, and I guess that just does make it go that bit slower. I also have used the white linen belts and they turn the ferrule down very fast. And also found that little frayed bits form and actually leave a “strike” on the ferrule as well.

    I actually use a firm linen belt, just purchased from GolfWorks, and for me I find that to work best. Then a bit of acetone to make them shine.

    So if you had the white linen belt I would definitely recommend trying the firm one: https://www.golfworks.com/durabrite-felt-ferrule-turning-belt/p/gm1083/

    Do you use a ferrule turning arm? I'm in the same boat with the 1x30 belt and struggle with ferrules. I do use the blue felt belt, but any other tips?

  13. Just finished my first "real" build. I had done a couple of quick reshafts and installed adapters, but this was my first go at a full set.

    I fit my buddy for some Cobra T-rails at a couple of degrees up and a half inch long. He wanted to keep the purchase less than $500, so I went to work. I found some previous generation T-rails at Mike's Golf Outlet for $375 (6-PW). They looked to be in good shape and my buddy agreed so we pulled the trigger. On a good note, the club heads came quickly and the hosels were pretty clean. However, I wasn't super impressed with their service. I had sent a couple of emails and made a note in the purchase asking for a lie angle measurement. I never heard back on either front. Also, when they were shipped, they simply put the loose heads in an upside down box inside of another! No bubble wrap or protection for the heads. Needless to say I was less than impressed.

    I ordered ferrules, grips and shafts from Diamond Tour and I couldn't have been happier! Grips and shafts all weighed within 1-2 grams of stated weight. Everything was safely packaged and arrived quickly. Tried to keep with the black and blue theme of the heads with matching 1" ferrules and Grafalloy supercharged shafts. The Lamkin grips don't match (I would have done CP2 wraps), but for $4 for a midsize grip, it was too good to pass up. Total here was $121.

    Now to the build, the PW came in a bit light, so I knew I needed to add a tip weight and that gave me a pretty consistent swingweight to the others.

    Goal Specs:

    All irons at C8 (Was never going to happen because the shafts are 15g heavier than the ones he tried in the Cobras which had the ultralights and we went 1/2" long) Everything was swingweighted at D3 before epoxy.

    PW 36.5"    9i 37"   8i 37.5"   7 iron 38"  6 iron 38.5" (Decided to stick with 1/2" increments despite Cobra only having 1/4" between the 9i and PW)

    Weighed all the shafts and grips and cut to length. I wanted to glue the heads prior to gripping to help the air escape and make sure that everything was seated. 

    The biggest issue on these clubs for me were the ferrules. I ended up ruining 3 of them because they fit too tight on the shaft and got stuck before I could really use the heads to push them on. I found that taking a bit of sandpaper to rough up the inside of the ferrules made a big difference. However, once I got the ferrules on and the head glued, it seemed that the ferrules sat just a bit too high and I couldn't get them back level to some of the hosels. You can see in the pictures what I'm talking about. Also, I wiped the ferrules multiple times and used tape to prevent the ferrule from creeping and I still had glue residue leak through on some. Then I started to use a felt belt on the ferrules and completely marred the one on the PW. I tried to be super light after that. Well I couldn't get enough heat (worried about black finish) and I don't have a shaft puller, so I had to take it to the shop to get the head removed and started over. I used the felt belt, acetone at 90 degrees to the felt belt markings and then I tried a buffer wheel with some polish and the wheel wouldn't turn on my grinder, so I just did a few quick spins with paper towel and the acetone.

    Final Specs PW D6 36.5"   9i D5 37"   8i D5 37 5/8"  7i D4  38"  6i D4  38 5/8"

    Give me some tips and feedback! 

    How can I stop the ferrules from coming up? Did I just use too much epoxy and that's why it leaked? Do the swingweights make sense after every the measurements were done before the epoxy? Is a turning arm worth it?

     

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  14. 4 hours ago, cnosil said:

    The tip looks like it wasn't prepped for installation and surprised there is no epoxy on the shaft.   You don't need to cut any notches in the shaft to make it work.   Prepping a shaft just requires roughing up both the tip of the shaft and the inside of the hosel.   There are plenty of videos on youtube that will show you how. 

    Agreed. You can see the tip looks black in the photo where the head came off and silver when he cut the extra notches. I know that the guy I use always made a little mark with the claw of a hammer to help ensure a strong bond.

  15. On 2/17/2023 at 7:19 AM, Jreggan29 said:

    So bare with me as this is my first post, but I hope this will help BGT and was curious if you all have noticed the same issues...

    So I also watched the video and had to try these shafts! the dispersion element was most interesting and I couldnt pass up the opportunity. So I had my DG TI S400's pulled and put the BGT ZNE 130 in my new Cleveland RTX Zipcore wedges(58 & 54). 

    My initial reaction was that they felt VERY stable(stiff) which is what I was looking for and expected. I went out and practiced/played I ended up loveing them as I found that they truly did help with my dispersion and did not impact my feel and touch around the greens/bunkers. They actually gave me extra confidence out of the rough as I play in SC and our course has very deep/think Bermuda rough and I felt as I did not have to worry about the face shutting down. But here come the unfortunate part.... 

    After less than a month totaling 15-20 hours of practice and 4 or 5 rounds I noticed that the my shots were starting to be very inconsistent and I could not figure out what was wrong to save my life. Then one day on the range I noticed that the shafts looked bent in the tip section. Unfortunately, both of the shafts had failed at the connection point had bent backwards. The shop I use had some new ones that they were going to swap but upon further examination we noticed that all of the shafts(including the unused ones) were not straight and when rolled was very noticeable. They reached out to BGT and they replaced all of their inventory with new goods but the replacements also had the same issue.

    I really did love the way these shafts felt and played but I will have a hard time trying them again as I have lost confidence in the quality/durability... it was an expensive experiment so I will let others test until they can get the kinks ironed out. 

    Has anyone else noticed these issues?

    Thanks for the feedback. Were you hitting a lot of full shots with them? I hit a ton of full shots with my wedges and this is concerning.

  16. On 2/6/2023 at 10:08 AM, McGolf said:

    The paint fill in the pictures provided is poor. 

    I did get a chance to see them at the PGA show and putted with them.

    As one can imagine the LH models were not as many and is a good business decision. 

    However the models appear to be more modern with an update to the darker color AND weights on the bottom. 

    The cost here in the US will be something in the range of $250 -$280 ish.

    from the feel perspective they were on par with the big boys making it a matter of find the proper length lie, model and grip.

     

    Good call on the paint job. If it looked like that, I wouldn't be dropping those kind of prices.

    @GolfSpy Barbajovery cool tidbit of info on Austie! Never heard of him, but it's nice to know that Zebra are going about this in the right way!

     

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