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  1. Stage 1 is up guys. Any questions fire away. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
  2. Stage 2 Review – Cleveland Launcher HB Irons After my stage 1 review I know many of you have been on the edge of your seat wondering if Wedgie found love. Well I want you all to know I am single again. That's right, single digit handicap. This is the lowest it has ever been and it's the clubs, not me. I have not been below a 12 since 2014. I counted them up and I have played 9 different sets of irons during this time and nothing has come close to the performance these have provided. The Launcher HB irons are the real deal and I hope to describe why in my review. For testing I really changed nothing from my normal golf routine. I was able to squeeze in 15 rounds and after the 15 I hit the driving range once. I said I don't practice and during this testing that held true. This baseline gave me the fairest way to compare my previous iron experience to the Launchers. Looks If you sit there and stare at the Launchers they are big. If you sit there and stare at golf clubs you are weird. The MGS staff says over and over looks do not impact performance so I'm frankly not quite sure why looks are part of the testing process. Oh, I know, we would rather look like we are good golfers rather than actually being good golfers. With that being said Cleveland did a fantastic job making these look great. I love the color scheme and the black on grey with white lettering works very well together. Nothing too flashy: just a clean classy look. Did the look of these irons prompt any comments? Nope! The performance prompted several comments however. At the end of the day when I address the ball I use the white alignment line on the bottom groove to align my shot then I look at the ball. I have always done this so to me the look of a club never has been a factor. I played with a fellow MGS member (not ole gray) and after he hit one shot with the Launchers his only comment after he flushed it was, “I could get used to that”. The durability has been fantastic. I don't use iron covers and bag chatter has been minimal and the black portion, which was my biggest concern, has held up beautifully. For comparison these have held up much better than my Cobra single length irons and are right in line with the Mizuno Hot Metals I played most of last year in regards to durability. After each shot I wipe down my club with a dry towel and the Launchers tend to hold on to dirt and grass more than other clubs mainly due to some nooks and crannies on the sole. This never impacted performance but cleaning does require soapy water and some sort of brush to get all the dirt out. I found a long, soft bristle brush works best for quick cleaning. Looks – 8 out of 10 Sound and Feel When I went to hit the Launchers for the first time I really expected a hollow tinny sound like you get when hitting a cheap driver. What I got was a solid cha ching sound. That is right…money! They really do sound great. They are an iron and produce a sound like an iron, not a hybrid. Cleveland claims their “internal ribs improve sound” but without knowing what they improved over it is hard to compare. I will say these will not be a distraction in the sound department and nearly every strike of the ball produces a pleasing thwack sound. The feel of these clubs is satisfying as well. I expected everything to feel like a hybrid and that could not be further from the truth. They feel just like an iron to me and that is a good thing. Despite the large head and forgiveness you can still tell where you catch it on the face whether it is high, low, heel or toe you know it. If I really want to knit pick the feel off the PW lacks a little. I am guessing that has more to do with the loft and ball I use more than anything but it still preforms and will not leave my bag. Sound and Feel – 9 out of 10 Range Performance I waited until the end of my testing to do my range time for reasons stated earlier. For the range time I took my Mizuno Hot Metal irons for comparison purposes. I would hit the Hot Metal PW then move to the Launcher PW and proceeded to do this throughout the bag. The results were interesting but expected. In terms of hitting balls right at the flag I found the Mizunos to be more accurate from the PW-8, 3 clubs. The Launchers were more accurate from the 7-4 irons. But here's the thing, the Launchers were always close to the target while the Mizunos often went long or short. If I translated this to the course 8 out of 10 times I'm putting with the Launchers and maybe 6 out of 10 times I'm putting with the Mizunos. Distance wise the Launchers are clearly a half club longer than any iron I have ever played. When I need a little more out of them I can get it. No hot spots on the face and that means no unexpected shots going 20 yards longer than expected. Trajectory is high but by lowering my attack angle I did see lower flights. If I could work the ball I'd report back on that but I don't. I want to hit it straight and that is what these clubs want to do. When I played with a fellow MGS'er I found myself behind a tree off the tee. I told him this was HB Launcher workability test number 1 and I was able to pull off a slight draw of maybe 4-8 feet that landed right where I wanted it. I guess if you generally can shape the ball you can with these. The forgiveness of these clubs is where they shine. Catch it in the middle of the face it does what you expect. Catch it anywhere else it doesn't do what you expect. I was constantly shocked knowing I caught if off the toe and seeing it hold its line in the air and hardly lose any distance. My miss is right and it still is, just not as far right. I used to miss short a lot and I still do, just not as short. That is why my index decreased 3 strokes during testing. These clubs have stability about them that I have never experienced. Ever hit a ball on the toe and feel the club twist? That doesn't happen with these which make you feel in total control of the head. Range Performance – 20 out of 20 On-Course Performance Let me begin with this. I have logged 174 rounds on the Grint app in 6 season of golf. In the 159 rounds prior to the Launcher HB irons I broke 80 eight times or 5% of the time. All of these were done on a 5,700 yard par 70 course. In my first 10 rounds with the Launchers I broke 80 five times or 50% of the time. Second time out I shot 77 on a 6,100 yard par 71 course and my fourth time out I shot a 76 on a 6,500 yard par 72 course. Did I wake up and become Tiger Woods? Nope, I woke up playing the Launcher HB irons. For the first time in my life I can hit every iron in my bag consistently because of the forgiveness. I go over trees instead of under them. On tight par 4's I can use a long iron off the tee to minimize risk. I can actually manage a golf course better because of the irons. These have never been options for me in the past. I cannot say enough good things about these clubs. When I need a shot to go a certain distance these deliver. They don't always go straight and that is on me, but they go the distance I expect. My GIR is up 2.8 per round but when I miss I am damn close and often putting from the fringe rather than chipping from the rough or bunker. These clubs hold greens like no other iron I have played. The single length Cobra short irons got the ball up high but they still rolled out. The Launchers fly lower and hit and stop allowing me to go after pins more often. I thinned one from about 150 yards that hit the front of the green, checked up and stopped on the back of the green. Normally I would expect to be 20 yards over the green. Did I mention I game the Top Flite D2+ Feel golf ball? Yep, if they will stop imagine what a good ball would do. As stated they are a half club longer than any club I have played but gapping is off the charts good and this is what has made them game changers for me. As an example my 160 club has always been a 5 iron but I would only hit it 160 about 40% of the time. Depending on conditions I may still hit a 5 iron but I know it is going 160 yards 90% of the time. This carries throughout the entire iron set and is why my scoring average has gone from 86.3 to 82.1 during this testing. Hitting these is effortless and the pain in my elbows I have dealt with over the last 9 months has disappeared. Who knew there were health benefits to playing these clubs? When I played with ole gray I told him I was struggling to find anything negative to say and that is still the case today. I thought hitting from the rough would be an issue going into this because of the wide sole. Not the case, hitting from the rough has never been easier for me. When I dropped the 77 with these I played with a buddy who was in the rough. He hit his Ping SGI iron low and hot about 6o yards into the rough on the other side of the fairway. He said ouch and that he could feel the club twist in the grass. For testing purposes I asked him to hit my Launcher 6 from the same lie. He flushed it pin high about 20 feet right of the flag. I should probably mention he said, “Damn that is big” prior to hitting the shot. I laughed and told him to keep on sucking. My fairways hit have gone down during testing but my greens hit are up which should tell you how well these perform from the rough. On-Course Performance – 40 out of 40 Play it or Trade it Both, I am playing the Launcher HB irons and trading in all my other golf clubs. I have played the best golf of my life with these and the scary thing is I think I could get a better fit at a good fitter. In fact the next time I am in SoCal I am going to see if I can be fit at Cleveland Golf so I have a back-up set just to be safe. We all struggle in some area with our golf game. If you struggle with iron play you need to give these a serious look. I just don't buy it when someone says I can't look down at that club. Give me one good reason why because I would love to hear it? These are made to make golf easier which for me makes it more enjoyable. If you want to try to look and dress like the pros drop those 60 pounds and go for it. If you want to hit clubs because a pro does by all means do. If you want to play better golf go try the Launcher HB irons. To paraphrase the immortal words of jlukes, if you are concerned about how the clubs you play look you have issues with insecurity. Play it or Trade it – 20 out of 20 Final Score – 97 out of 100 Conclusion The Cleveland Launcher HB irons are hands down the best irons for a golfer of my caliber than any irons I have ever played. By changing nothing else I have gone from being in the top 57% of golfers that keep a handicap to the top 30%. Will you have the same results? I don't know but if you want to score better I am very confident that at least 70% of you out there would benefit by playing these clubs. The sad thing is I'll bet only 10% of you have the balls to try them.
  3. Stage One Review – Cleveland Launcher HB Irons – 7/3/2018 - Wedgie When I found out My Golf Spy and Cleveland Golf were hooking up four lucky people to go out with and share their experiences with their new models I jumped at the chance. I raced to www.clevelandgolf.com to check out the choices. The site is well done and a breeze to navigate so finding the clubs was quick. The page loaded and there they were…..sisters I see. One named CBX and one named Launcher HB. I was immediately drawn to the cute sister, the CBX. I read her profile and became aroused. Turns out at 50 years old I just had to pee. When I returned I looked over the Launcher HB. Not as pretty, a little bigger, but I read about her anyway. The more I read the more I thought she was a better match for me. Forgiving, long, straight and high is just what I need. Looks fade but love lasts so I picked the Launcher HB. I anxiously watched the My Golf Spy forum to check out my competition for the date. Damnit! Ole gray just signed up to go out with the Launcher HBs…he is perfect for this. I'll bet he will be happier than a possum on a stump I thought to myself. Only one spot remained but to my surprise everyone was picking the cute sister. By default I was chosen and am very grateful to MGS and Cleveland Golf for this opportunity. I was asked if there was anything about her I would change and for the first time in my life I wanted her to be flatter. 2* flatter to be exact but everything else about her was perfect. 95 gram stock steel shafts in regular flex were a close match to my current True Temper shafts. I could not believe she was coming here to Rhode Island from California to meet me. I had hoped she would fly but she decided to drive. Regardless, today is the day we are supposed to meet for the first time. I'm a little nervous; I date a lot of clubs but never really tell anyone about it. Alas, here comes the FedEx guy to my office and there she is. Dressed in a plain brown box but I can't take my eyes off of her. I gently run my car keys down her side and the box slides open. There she is, along with her entire family. A big family I thought as all 7 of them laid there together with names ranging from 4-P. I carefully helped each one out of the box and addressed the Dad first, his name was 4. I did this one by one until I met each of them. Just like my family they got progressively thinner as I worked my way down. They all felt the same but something seemed a little off, I just couldn't put my finger on it. I lined them up and noticed all their toes were pointing up. Posers I thought. I like'em flat and these all stood upright. 4* more upright than I thought they would be and their travel documents confirmed that. With potential love on hold and my buzz gone I said goodbye to each of them as I packed them up for their return trip to California. I'm going to break character because I don't want to minimize the events that followed. After I discovered the clubs were not built to the specs ordered I notified the MGS moderator of the error. It was late in the day but I got an immediate response that he was on it. The next day Cleveland Golf had responded, owned the mistake and had a plan in place to correct it. People make mistakes, I get that, it is how they respond that matters. Noelle at Cleveland Golf acted swiftly and professionally and I could not have asked for an easier process to correct the error. In less than 24 hours problem solved and new clubs in my hands. I knew nothing about Cleveland Golf going into this but I can assure you regardless of the outcome of this testing based on their service and honesty they have earned my respect as a company. Back to our story….. Feeling all alone and in despair I wondered; did I do the right thing? Should I have given her a chance? Did I let the one get away? Then, all of the sudden, a co-worker grinning ear-to-ear steps into my office with a box in tow. This time she flew to see me. I opened the box, spotted her in the crowd, picked her up and held her for the first time. Her name was 6. I checked her out as she did the same to me. I was happy to see she practiced safe travel. As I looked 6 over I thought, a little chunky but yeah, I'd hit that! I knew I made the right decision picking her, she looks much better in person than in her pictures. You could tell she comes from a good home. She has a clean, solid, quality look about her that would encourage confidence in any man. A little junk in her trunk doesn't look bad either. She felt great in my hands, lighter than she looks for sure and ribbed grips for my pleasure. First question out of her mouth was; are you currently seeing anyone? I quickly told her I had just recently split up with my Cobra F8 One Lengths but a couple of their friends would stick around to meet her. What I did not tell her was that it would take a hell of a woman to kick them out of my life. To do that she would need to perform much better in all regards. Bridgestone JGR Driver Stiff Cobra F8 16* hybrid Cobra F8 One Length Lob-3H Ping Tess Putter We thought it would be best to get to know each other so I invited the entire family back to my place where we could talk. We quickly learned we both had golf in common. I went first. I told her I had been playing for about 25 years but really didn't take it seriously until around 2008. I play about 90% of my rounds in Rhode Island at sea level and the other 10% in Florida on a dude trip. She said she wanted to go and I would love to take her but I barely know her. Since I play 30-40 times a year there is plenty of time to see if she is dude trip worthy. I also shared a recent video with 2 golf experts commenting on my swing which you can view here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdDW7pTKFhU I proceeded to tell her how I had never taken lessons and probably never will due to time constraints. Since I have never taken lessons I never practice, well, because I don't know what to practice. I certainly did not tell her about my wife and 13 year old twins that I enjoy time with because I knew I would be sneaking around with her a lot. Trying to impress I told her I have tour level swing speeds but didn't mention they are LPGA Tour level at 94 driver and low 80s with a 6. Out of nowhere she asked if I was a swinger. Taken aback by the question I hesitated but responded with, no, but I am open minded and willing to try new things. She giggled and said, no, are you a swinger or a hitter? Blushing I responded by telling her I was more of a hitter. After a good laugh I went on about my issues with my quick tempo, lack of consistent ball striking and being a short hitter. I told her like all the other 6's I have dated she would be my 150 club. She confidently stated that I may need to use her little sister 7 for that. We shall see! I went on and on about how I have used the Grint for the last 6 seasons and how my index has been as low as 9.8 and as high as 15.5 over those 6 seasons. It currently sits at 12.1 which is my lowest in over a year. I invited the Grint out to share his thoughts on me and here is what he had to say: Wedgie sucks! He only hits 4.6 GIR and 51% FIR in Rhode Island and 78% FIR but still a low 4.8 GIR in Florida with much larger greens. Ball striking kills his scoring due to hitting shots fat, distance control and directional issues. I jumped in and mentioned that I tend to come over the top and steep which creates these tendencies. The Grint cut me off and told us my average score is 86.3 with a low this year of 79 and a high of 101, same course. I was hoping he would keep his mouth shut but he had to add that I miss par 3 greens short 25% of the time and right 26% of the time. This transfers over to par 4s and 5s as well. I excused the Grint and told 6 I do putt well which keeps my scoring where it is but the Grint was right, ball striking keeps me from reaching single digits again. I caught myself doing all the talking so I asked 6 to tell me a little bit about herself. Well, for starters I'm from Cleveland. I'm the smart sister. The kind of club you can settle down with. I have a hollow body design which makes me the most forgiving iron. Ever. I like to launch high and land soft and no cavity back design can do that as well as I can. I may be a bit chunky but I have a really thin steel face and when I smack those balls…, I quickly cut her off. Best of all my internal ribs make me sound and feel great and allow my man to customize me for loft and lie very easily. She's dropping a little attitude on me at this point. I like the confidence she has but if she can't back all that talk up I will call her out on it. For all I know she's just like every other club I've ever gone out with and none of them have panned out for me. Don't get me wrong, I'll give her a chance. I'll take her out to the range, to the course, wash her and maybe even show her off to some friends. Just between us she looks easy and I bet I can score. In fact, if anyone has any dating tips for me they would like to share and hear about let me know or ask questions…I kiss and tell. Is this going to be a summer fling or a love story with a happy ending? Come back to find out!
  4. Can't close it out! Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy EDIT: game over
  5. Damn I wish I knew this Saturday. Thanks guys! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
  6. Thank you! If I choose option one can I tee it up again? Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
  7. I was having the round of my life Saturday and then I get to 16. I drive it into thick woods but find my ball. As far as I know my only option is to try to get it back to the fairway so that is what I did. It took me 3 strokes to get thru the woods and back to the fairway. I ended the hole with a triple bogey. Could I have taken an unplayable? If so should I have? There was no where to go but thru the trees and no clear shot out of them. If I take an unplayable where do I drop? Thanks for the help. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
  8. I understand the policy. Yeah, you can't just go play clubs for 90 days and get cash back. But if you are in the market for a driver and are going to buy one anyway why not play it on course and if it isn't a fit return it and try another one at no additional cost? Has worked well for me but to each their own. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy
  9. I'm on an iPad so I can't send a link but www.worldwidegolfshops.com. I abuse the crap out of the 90 days and they don't care but I go in store. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy
  10. Interesting how perception and reality can be very different. Thanks for the feedback. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy
  11. Are you finding value obtaining all the stats and has it changed the way you play? For example prior to Shot Scope you would play X club for a shot but now you play Y club. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy
  12. The easy answer is I'm not a choker upper. Every club I have I like to hold on the end so that is the main reason. I did not reinstall Arccos because it missed so many shots I got tired of messing with it. If anyone is curious when you take the Cobra connect grip off the sensor sits on an exposed battery. The battery is shaped like a nickel. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy
  13. Got some Top Flites for Father's Day, gamed them the other day and had my best round in 5 years and second best round of my life. D2+ Feel two 15 packs for $25 at Dicks Sporting Goods. Not for everyone I know but for many a great winter ball option. For me, my new gamer. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy
  14. Moving the ball around is my issue with the Cobras. Different lie angles and offsets defeats the purpose as well in my opinion so you are forced to move ball around. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy
  15. Maybe consider the 4 hybrid option as well. The hybrids are the best part of the set. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
  16. Gotta keep your chin up and get back out there. If I recall your wedges were the best part of your game. It will come back quickly. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy
  17. I guess I'll keep my mouth shut from now on. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy
  18. Oh good....I feel better about myself now. I'm kidding, you'll get it back. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy
  19. Hey, I live in Rhode Island, but I grew up in Kansas. In Kansas things slow down because we let everyone in which holds up traffic. Sucks being nice! Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy
  20. My handle adjustment stripped and they want to send me a kit to fix it. Have you had any issues like that? Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
  21. My pin cutter today must not have been playing today. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy
  22. It sucks hitting an approach pin high and having an 8 footer with 2 feet of break and knowing if you don't slam it in you'll have another 8 footer coming back. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy
  23. I played the Bay Course at Seaview just outside of Atlantic City today. Nice course and it hosts a LPGA event each year. Anyway the pin placements were brutal. If they weren't on a slope they were tucked in a corner. On 9 I had an uphill 10 footer that I missed left by an inch or so, it rolled about 8 inches past the hole and rolled back in. When we finished up the starter asked how the day was and my playing partner said great but the pin placements were the toughest he had ever seen there. The started said with a grin the pin guy must have had a bad night. Who decides where the pins go for a non tour event? Is it the pin guy? Do they have a set pattern? Thanks Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy
  24. I walked the longest public course in Rhode Island this morning by myself in under 2 hours. I always try to be first off the tee and that meant 5:50 am today. Could have been quicker if the guys maintaining the course weren't in my way. I'm lucky in that a couple of courses just let me go ahead of everyone if I show up. I've had one afternoon tee time this year and walked off after 9 because of slow play. Self awareness or lack there of is an issue for me. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy
  25. Hit both around 180. Edit: Cobra Connect has the 3H at 184. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy
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