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  1. Seems to me you are chasing shot shape. 50/50 this is a swing issue or a strategy issue. Your words sound like you are chasing a pattern and hoping a ball does something rather than know it will do something. It is possible that you are aiming too much into trouble hoping that the flight will "bring you back." Ideally, the entire cone is placed so the majority of shots will allow for more access to the greens. As for the putt, you simply didn't get a good read. The bigger issue is it went 3-4' past the hole. Speed is more important than read.
  2. What if you aren't missing? Maybe your pattern is appearing exactly as it should and you have failed to place that dispersion correctly to the golf course?
  3. Play well and you have a chance to win. Play poorly and you have a chance to lose. Prepare to play well. All the other 'strategies' are made up and have zero statistical validity. The lowest score on each hole wins so go do that.
  4. Zoom invitations have been sent. Look forward to seeing everyone this evening.
  5. Even believing that you can eliminate one side of the golf course reveals a misunderstanding of the game. You never will so stop trying and come up with a better strategy. Look up the thread on shot shaping and search for the offer I made to the people in that thread.
  6. Zoom invites will go about around noon Sunday eastern time. Still time to signup!
  7. In spite of not hitting all the fairways is a very good question. I'm not sure I have a statistical way of saying yes or no unless I have access to each hole & his ball position. My gut tells me that it is more correct that he gained two strokes off the tee using proper strategy and length. His length may not apply to many but his strategy certainty does. Fairways are in no way bad but finding trouble when just trying to hit the fairway is a flawed strategy. Great question. Look back a few posts - join us on Sunday if you can.
  8. This is to everyone who has commented on this topic!! I'm not sure where to begin. This isn't an easy topic because it challenges everything that we believe is true about the game. For the moment, I want to share some data with you and premise it by saying that it doesn't matter than the player is on tour and makes a lot of money. Shots gained, in its truest form, compares how you played to everyone else in the field. Think of it as similar players. So if the stat/skill is true for a bunch of tour players the stat/skill will be true for a bunch of 18 handicap players. Bryson DeChambeau has gained two strokes or more on the field 5 of the last 8 rounds. Historically gaining two shot on the field happens about 1% of the time. In those rounds he hit 9/14, 9/14, 9/14, 8/14 & 7/14 fairways per round. I will remind you that he gained two shots on the field by not hitting all the fairways. I'm going to make everyone a free no-strings attached offer! I've been contemplating entering online coaching market. I know everyone provides swing instruction, but I want to provide more than just swing work. I want to provide holistic training for golfers interested in understanding the game, what to train, how to train, how to prepare to play, and how to play. I don't care if you are trying to win a soda, club championship, us open, or break 100. To do it well, I need to practice presenting online via zoom or similar. I am inviting everyone on this thread to join me for a free webinar on strategy that will cover tee shots, approach shots, Scott Fawcett's DECADE, & any other questions you have about strategy. You will not hear anything about my program, I will not make a sales offer to you, or answer any questions concerning my online coaching endeavor. I simply want to share information that I have compiled as a coach that has helped my private students and my women's college team. If you are interested, reply to this post with your email address. I will use the address for the Zoom invitation only and you will never receive an email from me for any other purpose. This offer is not about sales in any way!! I'm thinking Sunday evening at 8:00 pm eastern time.
  9. Weird drill. It is useful for someone who is too steep or shallow.
  10. I don't care what the labels or names of the clubs. I want something 12-15 yard gaps between 90 yards to 200ish. After that about 20 yards. What I actually have is the following: 97, 115, 132, 145, 160, 174, 188, 200, 215, 225, 245, 265, 280+ ( this is a 58wedge, a 54 bent to 53, a 50 bent to 47, 9 iron - 4 iron, a weakened driving iron, hybrid, 3 wood, driver) Not many clubs are standard lofts. I gap to get the distances desired. Some are bent strong and some are weak with gaps between 3* and 5*. Some wedges are bent because they are what I had but most exists and are bent to get the distance and bounce desired. Once I got everything I wanted the pw was retired. I want 15 yard gaps because it is my responsibility to hit a club a standard yardage, - 5 yards, & -10 yards.
  11. I understand your frustration. I have heard or seen many tour players go to Club Champion for their club work. The important thing to note is that they are going to a specific person and they would go to them if they did fittings at Dick's Sporting Goods. It is more about the person than the company. It is very difficult to get uniformity across multiple locations of one company. Chick-fil-A has probably the best model for consistency of food and level of service. That is why they are so far past the competition. I didn't get many fittings wrong. When I did, I fixed it. One of the reasons is the vast majority of my fittings were from my students, many of whom I had coached for months or years. I have played golf with them and had launch monitor or observational data to help guide the process. As a group we succumb to the marketing machine of massive improvements that a fitting or custom club build will provide. Remember, success leaves clues. When you find out info for tour level fittings, they are often about solving a singular problem or having to play new clubs but getting them to perform exactly like the old ones. Amateurs seem to have an approach that is a bit different. Listening to the forum groups or even MGS provides anecdotal information at best. Not out of bad intent, but people are individuals and their nuances make equipment perform differently for you then they would for me. It is very difficult to provide information that is truly applicable to each individual. I'm sure we will see some less than complementary ball data when the full test i published. Regardless, there is some player who is out there shooting par with it.
  12. Well said. IMO - be careful with credentials. Often credentials or certifications are simply sitting through a class and then continuing to pay a monthly fee. It is the application of the what is learned that is important and the willingness to be a little bit of mad scientist and try stuff out and see what happens. There is more science and means of measurement than when I was doing to frequently. My years of 'trying' were always way more useful than the classes or other resources. One of the biggest problems with fitting is that the majority of players really don't understand their game very well. Our memories are skewed to what we want to believe and often time a players problem has little to do with the tool in their hand than it does the application of skill to the golf course. Both are relevant to a good fitter. Unless incredibly useful and accurate stats are kept by the player the fitter has nothing more to go on than the players word and their perceptions. Lastly, some fittings can be 100% correctly done and can still be wrong. Years ago as I was becoming proficient as a fitter there was a time when 100% correct was valued more than a useful fitting. A local player came to me who was a true 1 handicap but wanted new clubs. His old ones were very worn and it was causing control problems. We used them as a model and we both the next clubs to very similar to his current ones. Essentially I delivered a nearly identical set except for a small change in the shaft. He liked the feel in the fitting and they performed as good as his old set. We even weakened the lofts to get the exact yardage numbers he preferred. When we tested lie angles, the demo club I had constructed had a similar lie angle to his current set and they were measured to be about 3* too upright. We had some evidence in a controlled environment that the getting the lie angles correct would prove helpful. I give this guy credit, he played 7 rounds and couldn't hit the broad side of the barn. This is a guy who routinely hit 15 or more greens a round! Turns out his simply new how to control 'wrong' lie angles. He played 7 rounds because he said impact felt perfect and way better than his old set. I bent the club back to his old spec and he was thrilled. Played great, felt like he had more control with a slightly better trajectory. He did miss the solid feel but he would rather control his golf ball. A 100% technically correct club fitting doesn't always work! You do get what you pay for and it usually is cheaper in the long run. I can assure you that next year's model simply won't provide a life changing amount of performance.
  13. When I was running my academy, demo days were free and I was there helping the fitting. Outside of that, I had a fee for fitting and the club was not discounted or offset by the fitting fee. I was good and good often comes with a fee. I also never made false statements like a driver will make you hit more fairways and I would refuse to sell a club that went farther but lost accuracy. Some exceptions but not many!
  14. Maybe I have missed a post or two, but I have not seen a post the identifies what is actually required in a warm up. What tasks are required on the course? 1. Tactical decision or strategy. These are often pre-determined. Choices have already been made based on your strategy standards. 2. You have to be able to swing so a physical warm up must be employed. 3. You have to swing your pattern more or less. Pattern reminder movements. 4. You need to hit the ground in the same place. Line drill without a ball. 5. You have to hit the ball solid and in the center of the face. Hit balls and make the corrections you already know to make to hit it on the face. 6. You have now warmed up your movement. 7. Randomize and chose different targets and clubs, possible in playing order until you have played 3 or 4 holes. You are now warmed up your ability to make decisions, you have executed shots that meet your strategy, and you have done so in a order that replicates the game you are about to play. Outside of the physical warm up, this plan takes about 15 minutes. Similar plans should be in place for your wedges and putter. Great players do this. It is likely we aren't as good as them so it makes it more important that we do it. They are better and can get away with less effort. Whacking balls in just a maddening waste of time. Plus, why would you hit it good if your body isn't ready to move. Doesn't it make it more frustrating to see bad shots when you are preparing to play. Doubt sucks! Creating standards and a procedure just isn't that hard.
  15. 1. Fittings, good or bad, don't make you hit fairways. Good fittings provide a tool capable of enough power and enough precision. In other words, fittings provide a tool best suited to the task. Strategy/Golf IQ lessons help you make decisions to put the ball in play and training helps you to aim or align to increase your ability of hitting the ball where you require. 2. Shafts are not 80% of the equation. Heads matter most, shafts fine tune. Once this was shaft thing was stated the opportunity for a good fitting was over. Therefore, switching heads but keeping the shaft would have compromised a tour level fitting. End of Story! Soap Box Moment - the drivers on tour have a 50+ yard wide dispersion cone. How big are fairways? Stop the madness about fairways!!!! If you don't understand but want to, please contact me!
  16. very small chance this was caused by over prepping the shaft. most likely it has been damaged just under the ferrule and the shaft had the damage while you played with it and over time it has peeled away. it is done and the shaft should be replaced.
  17. What club? Either way path and face are too far apart and you don't hit enough down which is part of the reason the spin is low. Of course, low is relative to which club you are hitting. If it is a 5 iron you are just a click low. If it is a seven iron then you 2500 too low and no chance to go far or be controlled. I'm a huge fan of SteelFibre shafts, but many better players have a hard time controlling them. Adding weight to the head made the shafts softer and probably increased the problem. Again, great quality shaft but quality has nothing to do with precision. You are a +.5 - just stop it with the distance!!!! If you want it, learn to swing faster!
  18. Great question and probably many correct answers. I don't believe it is about the time, but about learning how to ask for help when we don't meet our goals. Humans are resistant to change for reason too many to write about in this forum. Some of the reasons are good and some can cause big problems down the road in teams, groups, jobs, & relationships. Guiding your kids to understand that it is ok to seek help and that the frustrations of learning new skills will be rewarded in the end. (path of learning) Asking for help is a great habit and one you can foster. Obviously the level of guidance you provide should be appropriate to their age and development. You know best for your kids. As part of lessons or coaching, I ask that the student/child communicate with me as often as possible so they learn to be proactive in their training. Again according to their age & development. I have a young boy who would text me from mom's phone when he was 8 and now at 12 he texts me in a group chat that includes his parents. He asks me for a time and if his parents are available to take him. He drives the bus but also understands how involved his parents are in the journey. I know I'm guilty with my own kids of stepping in and doing too much taking away learning opportunities.
  19. You are doing fine. Don't teach them - they won't listen to you because they are too busy watching you! The time for group lessons is now. They will learn socialization, how to be coached, how to watch, how to learn, the etiquette of the game, and the learning will be more fun than you coaching them. As you said, it is about potential, when they recognize (your guidance) that they aren't improving any more than you might off the experience of a lesson. They will either like or they won't. I believe that junior golfers spend too much time in private lesson and too little time learning how to train and play in groups - supervised by a great coach. Private lessons should be less frequent and related to the group system. Playing golf drives learning as the pain points create the desire to improve. Challenge them to ask questions when they are lost.
  20. If you are not provided a plan to improve that relates to how you play and the difficulties you face, I would question the value. In the end, you want to know what to do, how to do, when to do, and why! If that entire plan isn't present, then they are just training you to swing. If that is what you want then it is great!! They should also provide how long it will take, their expectations of you, and your expectations of the coach. Some coaches solve problems for the player and each lesson is a honey moon. I personally don't. I provide enough proof that a change will work and then guide you to discover, learn, and guide your own improvement. I believe in teaching/coaching self efficacy. Just like any business - what is the mission, what is the strategy to win/achieve, what are the skills necessary, how do you train them, and how to you execute them when playing. Pretty simple.
  21. Here is the rub. Koepka's club is still inside his hands. Let me explain. The camera is setup somewhere between the golf ball/target line & the player's body and at some height based on Claude's preference. In that image Koepka's club appears to be slightly outside the hands. To hit a fade, he needs to swing some amount left of the target line with a closed face producing a ball starting left and fading right. If the ball starts left, meaning a new start line and you were to move that camera to the right, it would then appear that Koepka's club was back inside his hands some amount. This is the downfall of using only a camera if you don't understand what you are looking for. Change the height and angle of the camera and you have no basis for comparison. There are not many, if any, good golfers that swing the the club head outside of the hands. Take what you are doing a simply baseline shift left a bit and might see your desired fade. Baseline shifts are infrequently employed among amateur golfers and frequently employed with professional golfers. There is a reason few very good players appear setup like the so called desired railroad tracks. The reality is the railroad track alignment is not a true fundamental of golf.
  22. Thank you. The key take away is concerning systems. What Kali does works, not because they look the same, but because his kids score well. So, whatever system you chose, commit to it and do not deviate.
  23. Exactly my point, good golfers deliver the club to very similar positions at impact. I'm saying the club is a very similar position at impact. There are slight varieties of body positions that get the main task done. When people talk about positions, they are talking about body parts. Your body may look different than mine but if we are good, the clubs in space will be very similar. Top of the back swing is only relevant to the individual golfer and how they deliver the club. There are some similarities in body positions but less so than club delivery.
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