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GolfJunkie302

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  1. Awesome thread! Big thanks to the mods! [emoji122] Sent from my SM-T580 using MyGolfSpy mobile app
  2. Same here. They play almost like hybrids. Sent from my SM-T580 using MyGolfSpy mobile app
  3. Maybe a little of both, but mostly the size. Just not something I'm comfortable with. Sent from my SM-T580 using MyGolfSpy mobile app
  4. Yes on this end. They are just so big. I still don't know what I'm doing really. The long irons are hard to hit out of the rough — hard to "navigate" the clubhead. Sent from my SM-T580 using MyGolfSpy mobile app
  5. Thanks Looper! Yeah, it should be a really great time — I'm super excited. I am planning on doing a little write-up on here afterwards, so stay tuned! [emoji6] Sent from my SM-T580 using MyGolfSpy mobile app
  6. Correct me if I'm wrong, but larger wheels give you less power as a tradeoff for higher top speed, I think? Larger wheels are definitely a good option — you just have to choose your priority! Sent from my SM-T580 using MyGolfSpy mobile app
  7. You first move should be to put a bigger engine/motor in it. That will quickly put you above the slow carts. [emoji6] Sent from my SM-T580 using MyGolfSpy mobile app
  8. Stage one is up! Sent from my SM-T580 using MyGolfSpy mobile app
  9. You're going to hear all about that in stage 2. I have a few opinions! [emoji6] Sent from my SM-T580 using MyGolfSpy mobile app
  10. Stage Two — The Review PING G700 Irons — Official MGS Forum Review by Jack Miller Welcome, spies, to my stage two review, where you are going to find all the information you wanted to know, and even some you didn't. Over the course of the last couple of months, I have put these irons through rigorous testing, both on the range and the golf course. I completed various tests, including a workability test and an overall performance test. So without further ado, the review! Looks: 6/10 Points Aside from the size, the G700s look very nice. They don't have much of a cavity, which certainly enhances the look. But the size is really where these clubs lose points. They are enormous. Comparing them to my other set of irons, my Mizuno MP-60s, is like comparing a semi-truck to a coupe. I know that it's supposed to inspire confidence, but it makes me feel rather uncomfortable at address. They also have a super thick topline, which I definitely don't care for. The graphics, or lack thereof, are very appealing. Simply a strip of chrome finish with the word “PING.” There are no brash colors on the G700s, which (for me at least) degrades the look of a golf club. Compared to other GI irons, the style of the PINGs is pretty awesome. They almost look like a players type club with the lack of color and the small cavity. They would be perfect if the sole was just a little narrower. The G700s aren't very flashy. In my opinion, this is a good thing. They have the look of a better players iron with the performance of a game improvement iron. Overall, size aside, these irons come together nicely. Let's talk about the Hydro Pearl finish. It certainly is lovely to look at, but possibly the worst finish for a golf club. It scratches extremely easily. This is a problem, because everyone likes their clubs to look nice. Here are a couple of photos after one round. They look like they have been played with for a year. For me, that definitely detracts from the G700s. Sound & Feel: 6/10 Points The G700s sounds… interesting. Very loud and metallic, the sound is very much like that of a hybrid. They feel very clicky — or clinky — off the face. Mis-hits are noticeable. It always feels like a thin shot, even though sometimes it isn't. But they do feel fairly explosive on good shots! I hate to say it, but these PINGs sound and feel pretty bad. You can really hear that hollow core at work. It's just not the same as the buttery feel I get from my Mizunos. I do think those aspects impact my performance, simply because a good shot with these sounds like a thin shot with my other irons. Range Performance: 13/20 Points Accuracy with the PING G700 irons is very good. They have a predictable shot shape: very straight with little curve. During my time on the range, I completed a drill to see the accuracy as compared to my other iron sets. I hit three shots at each of three targets with clubs from each set. Here are the results: These clubs go a long ways. They are 8-10 yards longer than the TaylorMades, and 15 yards longer than the Mizunos. That is a huge difference — almost two clubs farther. Distance is the one category where the PINGs really excelled in. The trajectory is also nice. Quite high and straight… very “bullet-esque,” if you will. But I think the forgiveness is lacking. Mis-hits are more pronounced than with my other iron sets, so I am slightly disappointed with that particular factor. The G700s are fairly easy to control; about as easy as my SLDRs. The MP-60s are easier to control than either of the other irons. Workability is not good. Not good at all. I can't shape a shot to save my life. The only time they curve is when I hit it on the toe, then they really hook hard right. I did a workability test, again comparing all three sets. I hit nine shots with each 7i: low fade, low straight, low draw, medium fade, medium straight, etc. This is how it all went down (as you can see, the G700s didn't perform that well): The PING G700 irons just aren't up to par (no pun intended) with the other iron sets, as far as range performance is concerned. They are accurate and go pretty dang far, but there are still problems that need to be ironed out. But let's move on and talk about the performance where it really counts: on the golf course. On-Course Performance: 22/40 Points I find the PING G700 irons to be quite accurate. They are easy to align, and well struck shots are very predictable. Shots follow a relatively high, piercing trajectory. I was surprised by this because the lofts are pretty strong compared to most other irons on the market today. Forgiveness was comparable to the forgiveness on the range. Workability is not a word these irons are familiar with. I find it difficult to curve the ball either way. It doesn't matter whether I'm on the range or the course, I can't seem to be able to consistently play the nice draw that I'm used to. Compared to my SLDRs, these clubs are long. About 10 yards farther, which is huge. They are even longer than the Mizzys. I have less control, though. Still good, but not quite as good as my current gamers. They do perform well under pressure. For instance, my buddies and I were playing a team best ball match. We were four down after nine. By 15, we were only two down. On 16, I smoothed a PW from 148 to about a foot to win the hole. But, I am not sure how much of that is the club and how much of that is mental. I am highly impressed with the performance out of fairway traps — great forgiveness and distance. The trajectory of shots is also lovely — much higher than I expected. The G700s perform amazing in the wind. Shots hold their line really well. In one round I played, the wind was blowing about 20 MPH. On a particular hole, I aimed just left of the green, expecting my shot to get pushed back to the right. I hit my line, but I missed the green left. I saw very little curve from the wind throughout the round, which was a pleasant surprise. Although there are some aspects I am very pleased with, there are also a couple of things I have a problem with. I find these irons to be quite difficult to hit out of the rough. Unlike my Mizunos, the clubhead is far to large to cleanly cut through the turf. The G700s require a very shallow swing (almost like a 3-wood swing), which doesn't help someone like myself, who is more of a digger. Punch shots are nearly impossible with these clubs. I can never seem to make good contact. Normally punch shots are a strength of mine (and I need to hit them often), so that creates kind of a problem. Additionally, I can't hit the G700s from downhill lies. I just had too many struggles with simple tasks to feel comfortable with the PINGS. Overall, the on-course performance did not meet my expectations. I have several issues that I can't seem to figure out. They didn't help my game at all. To be completely honest, my handicap went up nearly two strokes during the time I played the PINGs. I am a little disappointed because I expected more from PING. I would really like to see the size decrease dramatically. I would also like to see less offset. I realize the G700 is a GI iron, so maybe I need to change equipment instead of PING changing the design. One feature I am intrigued by is the hollow core design. Yes, it may produce an undesirable sound and feel, but man does it make for some long shots! Play it or Trade it: 11/20 Points Do the PING G700s help me play my best? Short answer: no, they don't. I find myself struggling with what are typically straightforward shots, such as shots on downhill lies, punch shots, shots from the rough, etc. I have no problem hitting these shots with my other irons, so the PINGs aren't getting the job done. But they are nice to have. I do like the shafts, and I may use the 4i as kind of a driving iron (it goes about 230). As I prepare for a big tournament I have in a couple of weeks, I am planning on gaming something I'm more comfortable with. After that, I may try the G700s again. At this point in time, I don't like how they fit my game. They are designed for the higher handicap player, providing maximum distance and forgiveness. With that comes less control and workability. Obviously better players can use them too, provided they aren't affected by the sound/feel and large profile. This can be affirmed by looking at Josh's round of 60 (and no, that's not for nine holes, folks). But I am losing strokes by using the G700s, so they just aren't the right fit for my game. Conclusion The PING G700 irons are GI irons designed for maximum distance and forgiveness. They have a great look to them, but they are incredibly large. The size makes me a little uncomfortable. It also makes them difficult to hit, in my opinion. The clubhead is too large to maneuver, and doesn't cut through the rough very easily. Additionally, the G700s don't sound or feel very good. This is courtesy of the hollow core construction. However, they do go far. And I mean far. We're talking an additional 10 yards of carry. Shots are also quite straight and hold nicely in the wind. But the lack of spin through the air also means lack of spin on the green, which makes it difficult to get shots to stop. The G700s are fantastic from fairway bunkers: almost the same distance and super easy to hit. They are also easy to align. Overall, as far as performance goes, these irons from PING just don't suit my game. I could easily see other types of players (those who don't care about the size, sound, or feel) falling in love with these clubs, but they really don't fit my playing style. Anyway, I appreciate all the readers who got this far! Once again, thanks to MGS. I had a great time testing these clubs and I can't wait for my next opportunity! Final Score: 58/100 Points
  11. Stage One — Tester Introduction Before we get started, I'd like to give a huge thanks to PING and MGS! This is an amazing opportunity and I am really excited to do this review for you guys. The G700s look pretty cool and I cannot wait to see what they're all about. That being said, let's dive right in! My real name is Jack and I play out of Seattle, WA. I've been playing for about 10 years now, but I only started taking it seriously five or six years ago. This fall, I will be a senior in high school. My dad was really the one who got me into golf. I wasn't crazy about it at first, but then I really came to love the game. For most of my “career,” I've been with a great youth program called The First Tee. I know there are several members on here who are quite familiar with it. I'm a participant but I've also been doing lots of volunteer work the last five years. Through The First Tee, I was actually selected to play in the PURE Insurance Championship this September, which is an official Champions Tour event at Pebble Beach. I am really excited about that. For the longest time, my home course was the course Fred Couples grew up playing, which is pretty neat. In the last couple of years, I've been trying to play more tournament golf, which has been fun. I know compared to a lot of guys on here, I'm just getting my feet wet in this game. Even though it can be really absurd at times, I hope to stick with it for the long run. Alright, I know you guys didn't come here for the story of my golf life, so let's talk a little about my current irons and then about the G700s. I am currently gaming TaylorMade SLDR irons, 4i-GW, with KBS Tour C-Taper 90 shafts. They have regular flex shafts when I really should be playing stiff. I have owned these for five years so I think it's time for an upgrade. We'll see if the G700s can dethrone them! From what I've read, the G700 irons have been giving people an extra 10 yards. How great would that be? Here are a couple of my carry distances. I'll check back once I get the new irons to see if there is much of a difference. Keep in mind, these are all at sea level. • 9i – 145 yards • 7i – 160 yards • 5i – 175 yards I play to a 5.7 index. For my wedges up through my 6i, I like to play a draw. For the 5i and 4i, I prefer a fade. I know, it is kind of weird and inconsistent, but whatever works, right? My typical miss is a hook. Now, the PINGs have more offset than my current irons, so I am a little worried that my miss is going to be even more of a hook, which could have a really nasty result. We'll just have to wait and see! My strengths right now are iron play and driving. I don't hit it far, but I keep it in play. Usually. My weakness has always been putting and at this point, I am convinced it always will be. Alright, before the great reveal, let's talk a little about the clubs, the technology, and what they're designed for. The G700s are GI irons designed for maximum forgiveness and distance. They feature a hollow-core construction, very reminiscent of PXG irons or the TaylorMade P790 irons. This gives the face a trampoline effect, much like that of fairway woods. The clubface is made of C300 maraging steel which, according to PING, tightens dispersion and generates twice the face flexing, in turn producing greater distance. Additionally, the sole on the G700 irons is quite wide. This increases forgiveness significantly. Here they are compared to my SLDRs and my Mizuno MP-60s: For this test, I ordered the N.S. Pro Modus 3 105 shafts in stiff flex. At the range, these really worked well for me, much better than the stock shaft option. The irons are all red dot, which is 1° flat. I went with standard length and grip size, per the PING fitting chart. The initial test at the golf shop went really well, but that's all I'm going to say! We'll save all of the good stuff for stage two. Now for a few photos before I sign off. Remember, if you guys have questions along the way, be sure to ask!
  12. Wait, they allow 15?! Sent from my SM-T580 using MyGolfSpy mobile app
  13. It will save you cash and penalty strokes if you only get fourteen. [emoji6] Sent from my SM-T580 using MyGolfSpy mobile app
  14. Correct, I have to go through my golf association (WSGA) and login to GHIN from there. Sent from my SM-T580 using MyGolfSpy mobile app
  15. Thanks guys. Now I don't have to pay for GHIN! [emoji847] Sent from my SM-T580 using MyGolfSpy mobile app
  16. Okay, so let me get this right. The Grint gives you an official handicap index? I thought it calculated an index but was unofficial. Could I go enter a USGA event with it or do I still have to use GHIN? Sent from my SM-T580 using MyGolfSpy mobile app
  17. Made another eagle today! Good drive, 3 wood from 250 to nine feet and sunk it. Not gonna lie, I've made maybe four eagles in my life but I've made three more this week alone. Now I have a lot of pressure on myself for the next round... But I already know the hole I'm going to do it on! [emoji6] Sent from my SM-T580 using MyGolfSpy mobile app
  18. 511 yard par 5... hit a good drive and left myself 185 to the pin. Pulled 6i and rolled off the back. Two putt from there for bird. Another par 5, hit a bad drive but had 235 in, all carry over a hazard. Stuffed a 3 wood to 15 feet and drained it for eagle. That makes two eagles for me in three days! 🦅[emoji91] Sent from my SM-T580 using MyGolfSpy mobile app
  19. Yeah, Chambers can eat you up. You get in those waste areas, you can't get out with more than PW. Sent from my SM-T580 using MyGolfSpy mobile app
  20. Rolled in a smooth 30 footer for eagle today in a tourney! I have only played that particular club three times and have eagled the same hole twice. Sent from my SM-T580 using MyGolfSpy mobile app
  21. Yeah, the patina looks great to. It's a win-win! Sent from my SM-T580 using MyGolfSpy mobile app
  22. Are you going to restore them to the original look or leave them as-is? I have a BeCu putter that looks amazing restored! Sent from my SM-T580 using MyGolfSpy mobile app
  23. Didn't buy them, but was given some old Mizuno MP-60 irons. They look almost brand-new. And man, do they feel like butter! [emoji847] Sent from my SM-T580 using MyGolfSpy mobile app
  24. I played the other day and there were, no joke, five groups on one par 3. It was disgusting. Probably the last time I play that course. Sent from my SM-T580 using MyGolfSpy mobile app
  25. Ha! That is in EXCELLENT shape compared to some of the balls I've found at my course. Some literally have no dimples! [emoji23] Sent from my SM-T580 using MyGolfSpy mobile app
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