Recently bought a used but very good condition set of CMBs off the Bay. Had them built up by great local builder. Went back to the Bay and bought two more sets of CMBs. Best iron heads I've ever hit (MacGregor, Miura, Cobra, Titleist, Maruman, Orlimar, original Snake Eyes...). If the CMBs are this good, I wonder about the XTDs... problem being that if you read the old reviews including Ernie Els' feedback, they're too long! Ha!