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  1. Solid system. If I had an Apple Watch, I'd probably still be using it, but just got rid of my Arccos sensors in favor of the Garmin system that works directly with my everyday Garmin watch. Arccos stats blow Garmin away, but I like the convenience I have now. 

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  2. Been debating getting the bag off of my back for a while now (one of my league teammates swears by it), but haven't pulled the trigger. Maybe this is the time? If not, good luck testers!

  3. Things have gone awkwardly silent here, so reviving the thread -- 

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    Consistent struggle with the 3W -- mostly used for tee shots, and like 50/50 on whether I top it vs. bomb it (the only club that has this issue). Sooo... earlier today I pulled the trigger on this guy: 

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    Between U505 (not part of test) and T200, I could have gotten a 16° U505, 17° T200, or 18° U505 to complement the 20 degree T200 Utility. Considering it's replacing a 15-15.75° 3W, I went with the 16° -- head size was also a factor (17° T200 feels above my current skill level; 18° U505 felt too close to the T200 3i). Built the club to match the 3i from the test, which has been phenomenal (as has the 4i that I bought later). 

    They say 6-8 weeks before I get it. For the 4i, they said 10 weeks and it came in 10 days. I'm hoping for something similar here, but we'll see. 

     

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  4. 2 minutes ago, jddaigneault said:

    Glad the review helped! I agree, I’m unsure how they make money. I do know that wholesale for clubs is significantly under market value, so I’m assuming they have wholesale accounts. 

    Yea, that's how I was trying to figure out the rough calculations. I would hope that this was factored into the overall business plan, but it's possible there were some unrealistic assumptions going in. Like if they paid $330 for a driver and a member bought it for $500 (33% sounds like a reasonable difference in what they pay vs. sell for, and they deduct member fees from sale price), they could be sitting on up to two other used drivers that they also paid $330 for -- maybe they assumed they could get $330+ for each of those other two drivers, but reality could be less. E.g. if selling directly to 2ndSwing or a similar place, us individuals will get less than that for a used or even new driver, so they'd need some kind of agreement to get higher buybacks; if they try to sell themselves, they might just be sitting on used inventory --> eventually taking a loss. They do say that they donate a portion of the returned drivers to charities, but the donation model makes it seem even less realistic to make this a sustainable model. 

    Side note: jumped over to their website FAQs to find that last bit of info (what do they do with the returns?), and considering they aren't taking new members, I found it kinda funny that I was getting bombarded by these pop-ups -- either this is misleading (as I've heard about these notifications in the past), or they're reporting renewals in the pop-ups. 

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  5. Someone recommended DDC to me after hearing I just ordered a newly fitted driver -- my gut reaction was "it won't work for me" because of shaft options (play an X, and even if it's a "stock offering", it's normally the heavier version that requires custom ordering anyway), but decided to look at it anyway before writing it off, just for kicks (that's also when I remembered about the MGS test offering last year). 

    These reviews are exactly what I expected and super helpful for the market. DDC does have a target market, but especially based on @jddaigneault's review, I'd say their market is not guys like me (FWIW Berg's review helped as well, but the X limitations is what I needed to see). Some of the other data confirms I wouldn't have been happy signing up for the service, like the shipping costs for the replacements, and the fact that they haven't stocked the new products (moot point though - signups are still closed). 

    Especially after seeing they are closed for new sign-ups, it got me thinking that they might not make it much longer (I like to speculate 🤔 I've seen services take this kind of step and then their next step is "dissolve"; others come back and thrive, but both lack of sign-ups and lack of new product does not point in the right direction). That also got me thinking about their business model - it's a great idea if they can keep the service working, but it felt doomed from the start unless they are getting huge discounts on the new drivers or have some kind of second-hand contract that gets them top dollar on used clubs. Just spit-balling numbers...for a returned driver, after considering their cost and what they can get secondary, they're probably hoping for breakeven but more likely somewhere around a ~$50-100 loss per driver -- that's assuming they sell to a secondary retailer, but if they try to sell themselves, they're probably just sitting on a bunch of used inventory with high balances in AP (could also be a reason for not getting the new inventory). Someone that quits after a year then gives them at most $360, but more likely only a ~$100-200 gain depending on how many drivers they went through ($360 minus ~$50 each); a purchase nets them $150-200 on the one driver, minus how many returned clubs it took to get there (so purchases might even be breakeven for them). Even if my numbers are off a bit, it would be really difficult to cover cost of operations -- the returned drivers are cutting into already-thin margins on driver sales, so they'd need some other revenue stream to keep up (do they have that?).  

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  6. On 2/25/2022 at 10:20 PM, ChiefMikeOfficer said:

    Well...I did it. You win, Titleist. 4 iron coming soon to accompany the 3 iron with the same build:

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    Well, soon is relative. Hopefully it won't take the full 10 weeks they estimated, but even if it does, that's still reasonably early in the season here. Might end up with a longer one at some point too, but we'll see. 

    And she's here - 10 week custom order warning last Friday, got here in just one week! 

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  7. Well...I did it. You win, Titleist. 4 iron coming soon to accompany the 3 iron with the same build:

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    Well, soon is relative. Hopefully it won't take the full 10 weeks they estimated, but even if it does, that's still reasonably early in the season here. Might end up with a longer one at some point too, but we'll see. 

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  8. 12 hours ago, juspoole said:

    I went with a T200 utility build and it's my favorite club from the test.  It outperformed my previous utility iron - Srixon ZX Utility iron - which I "thought" I loved. 

    I've been toying around with the idea of adding a 3 iron in a T200 as well, but currently have a 2 and 3 hybrid, so just not sure which route to go. 

    Same - my T200 Utility 3 iron outperformed my Srixon U85 2 iron, and by a lot. Very possible I pick up another T200 before the season starts -- was originally thinking the 2, but might be leaning more toward the 4 right now (or maybe both? We'll see...)

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  9. 15 hours ago, Nolan220 said:

    Alright guys for most of us the new season is around the corner I am interested to see who is sticking with their T-Series Irons or who is making a change and why  ?

    @ncwoz @ChiefMikeOfficer @juspoole @MDGolfHacker @GolfSpy_THV @Nunfa0 

     

    I will go first I been doing some indoor garage swing practice to beat the cold and been switching up back and forth with my Mizuno JPX900s so its starting to creep in my head about if I should back to the JPX or stick with T300. I think I will stick with the T300 for now but going to get on a LM and get some data before the nice weather kicks in 

    No reason for me to go back. They simply outperform my old set - 10-15 yds longer, similar dispersion, not sacrificing anything when it comes to holding greens. I loved Mizunos but these just seem like the better fit (that occasional rocket is still a slight concern, but I'm shoving that aside for now). 

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  10. Decided to go into GolfTEC to burn one of the lessons that I knew I shouldn't have bought... (First one I've used and I'm already 3 months into the 6 month expiration window). Figured I'd just do a swing tune-up and bash some 7 irons. After shaking off the rust by chunk-hooking some short ones, the wow factor came back.

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    Maybe they had the monitor (Foresight?) jacked up or at a high altitude setting or something, but supposedly they didn't. Using a Titleist Tour Practice ball, I was mashing 7 irons with 190+ carry and 5700+ RPM of spin (that's 1.5-2 clubs longer than my JPX Tour 🤯 and with "good" spin numbers considering the ball). Dispersion was reasonably tight too - I just wish I swapped in a different ball to see the more realistic numbers. Days like that give me hope for the upcoming season and make me want to sign up for tournaments... But I'm sure reality will set in soon enough, and I'll still be "around 80" (I'll just have more fun getting there with that added distance). 

    Gotta reiterate the thank you to both MGS and Titleist for this opportunity -- without the testing opp, I wouldn't have even considered swapping out my Mizunos, but these are looking like a much better fit for me. 

     

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  11. On 10/25/2021 at 8:55 AM, MDGolfHacker said:

    Any other updates on the T series?  I've been slammed at work and scouts for my son so I haven't even practiced with the T200s... something I hope to rectify this week.

     

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    Winter is settling in here too, so usage is down, but I do have one more round tomorrow that might or might not get some new feedback (hopefully not the last round of the year...but sadly it might be). Range sessions were consistent with previous feedback over the last couple weeks. 

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  12. 13 hours ago, PingMD702 said:

     For the guys who tested the T100S set, how did you go about the wedge gapping? I have a set of 2020 T100s up to GW and I am debating if would be better to play stock pw and gw and have just a 54 and 60 or could I get away with a 8 degree gap from my 9 iron to my 46 and play 52 58? I feel that the stock gw comes a little too hot off the face. Thanks for taking the time to review the new sticks!! I can't wait for the t100s to come out in black! 

     

    11 hours ago, juspoole said:

    Great question and honestly a conundrum that I am still trying to work out. For me personally I like having the PW as well because that is a lot of half and 3/4 swings that you will face by having an 8* gap.
    My thought is to potentially bend the PW and GW a bit weaker since they are so hot off the face.  If I can get my PW closer to 140 and gap wedge closer to 125, my SW is 110 so that would give me 15 yard gaps up through to 9 iron. I could also bend my 54 a bit to ease that difference and keep the other clubs the same.  I prefer the bounce and sole options on 54 and 56 degree wedges usually more than a 52 so I would have some reluctance to do that personally since I chip and pitch a lot with my 54. 
     

    Sorry for the long winded answer but hope this gave you a couple things to think about. 

    I haven't really figured this out yet either, and didn't really consider it when building the test set (wanted to compare to something I'm used to- could have chosen a T100S GW, but haven't played a set GW since high school). My standard wedges are 50/55/60, which are 125, 110-115, and ~90 (honestly don't know the stock yardage for the 60 - rarely swing it full). The T100S put my PW at 44 instead of 46, which pumped me up to 145-150 stock yardage... So I have a 20-25 yd gap right now between PW and GW (used to be around 15).

    I might make some moves in the off-season, maybe putting a 48 in play instead of the 50 and bending the 55 back to it's original 54, or might just work on taking something off of the PW more consistently. 

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  13. 7 hours ago, juspoole said:

    Final Review is Live!

    Would love to answer any questions that you have after reading

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    I was starting to get nervous that I was gonna be the only one to give less than 5 stars overall. 

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  14. 19 hours ago, ChiefMikeOfficer said:

    Posted my final review a couple nights ago. They've got some great things going, but a couple things held me back from a full Overall 5⭐ (would have given 4.5 if that was an option). I kinda wish I had access to a full set of JPX Forged - I think that would be an interesting comp. 

    Made some minor edits to the review -- we started with an older version of the scoring system, and mine was structured that way. I saw everyone else putting the 5-star ratings within the actual text too, so I decided to follow suit. 

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  15. Posted my final review a couple nights ago. They've got some great things going, but a couple things held me back from a full Overall 5⭐ (would have given 4.5 if that was an option). I kinda wish I had access to a full set of JPX Forged - I think that would be an interesting comp. 

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  16. 2 hours ago, ncwoz said:

    I'm just curious what the other testers experience has been with the spin these irons produce?

    The T100's have been really nice for me - not only in a good spot quantity wide, but super super consistent. I'm honestly not sure if I've had a single jumper that's gotten away from me during all my testing so far. 

    Spin rates have been both good and consistent for me. They've given me a really good descent angle with a lot of stopping power - better than I expected with the stronger lofts. 

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  17. 17 hours ago, juspoole said:

    Fun experiment today - I played 9 holes with both sets. I hit 4 irons off of every par 4 in hopes to have a longer club into greens.

    I definitely have grown more accustomed to the feel of the Titleist and the Mizunos felt much lighter.  Also, looking at the Mizuno right before or after the Titleist makes me appreciate how good these look from address.   The Mizuno almost seemed clunky and the lines did not flow.  The next largest takeaway by far was distance.  I was a club or two less nearly all day.  Off the tee, the T200 was also outperforming the Srixon ZX by a large margin.  In the end, my score was the same - even par with both.  More details below on FIR and GIR.

    Overall Comments - The higher ball flight is great and it's nice to have less club also with the Titleist.  However, I feel like I'm hitting some clubs too far.  For instance I hit a gap wedge from 136.  The lines on these are terrific.  Definitely heavier than Mizunos.  ...  Need to experiment more.

    Love the side by side strategy!

    I feel like we're having a very similar experience with the T100S -- every time I read one of your posts, I just think "yup, same". 

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    I played in our city mid am this week - scores were not up to my expectations, but can't blame that on the irons (haven't played enough lately and felt very rusty - both rounds were terrible for the first 9-10 holes and tolerable for the remaining holes). Throughout both rounds I made some strategic decisions to make sure the Titleist irons got more action than a typical round (like 3 or 4 iron off the tee to set up an 8 or 9 iron into the green instead of going driver-gap wedge, and taking something off the PW instead of going full GW). 

    The T200 3 iron is a monster off the tee. It was very consistent, and mishits were forgiving, at least in terms of direction (noticeable drop in distance though). Nicer to look at and (seemingly) more power than my U85. From the short grass it was also nice, just a little less consistent (it's still a 3 iron). Might pick up the 2 iron to go with it, or the U505 1 iron, possibly even replacing my 3W... (But then what would i do with all those sweet fairway covers? 🤔). Honestly, if I put the driver away and only hit 3i off the tee for the entire tournament, I probably would have saved 3-4 strokes per round (but can't get myself to do that on a par 5 or on gettable par 4s after the wheels were already loose). 

    The other irons... They fly high and go far. They look and feel great. I also think they feel heavier than my Mizunos. Distance control with shorter irons is great, especially when trying to hit it a specific number. But there are still those occasional big hits from the long and mid irons that give me pause - for example, on Tuesday on a hole where long is the worst spot to be, I hit 7 iron from 183 thinking there's no way it goes over the back, and... Yikes, had to hit a 30 yd floppa coming back (it rolled out a bit, but still, 210-215 total, probably 195-200 in the air landing on a slope in the back rough) - hit a sick flop though, so I did get it up and down. 

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  18. On 9/20/2021 at 8:45 AM, Nolan220 said:

    Good job with the analysis. Do you feel the distance inconsistencies are due to hitting the sweet spots or was pretty consistent striking just felt like the distances were longer then others. I had the same thought when I was playing some of my distances were a lot further then my normal but I didn't have my JPX900s to test against since I was playing a round. I wasn't sure if maybe I just hit it pure or not, but I do see an increase in distance with the T300. 

    Maybe... the ones I'm looking at here are shots that all felt solid but it's possible they were very slight mishits / just not "perfect". Some of the on-course shots that I hit were clear mishits that had nice flight and just fell 10-15 yards short of what I'm expecting (and I got rid of the clear mishits from the range session to make sure it's more of a club-to-club comparison). The 5 iron at the range shows it pretty well (I'm seeing it more in the longer irons than the short ones so far): all of the shots I kept in there felt solid, all but one had a nice looking draw and were pretty well on target, two stand out as going further than the rest, but one of those two was a "whoa" moment -- very close to average launch and land angles, but 4mph + 15yds past the average from the set, and 10 yds past the clear #2 ball. 

    Then again, I might be finding that my stock shot is actually a slight mishit and this was the only one that found the actual sweet spot 🤣

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  19. On 9/18/2021 at 12:00 AM, ChiefMikeOfficer said:

    The results of that were...surprising. My direct club comparisons are: 

    Short irons: JPX919 Tour vs. T100S (Titleist is 2 degrees stronger)

    Long irons: JPX919 Forged vs. T100S (same lofts)

    Driving Iron/Utility: Srixon U85 2-iron vs. T200 3-iron. "Should not" be a fair comparison - Srixon is 2 degrees stronger, 0.75" longer, and quite a bit thicker. Unfortunately, I did not have a chance to compare tee shots between these two beasts, just off the turf -- I expect ~90% of my shots with these clubs to be tee shots, so I still need to compare in that way.

     

    Alright, here's some additional details on the session after getting rid of some of the outliers (shockingly, only needed to throw shots away for the Utility Iron and PW -- everything else was "good enough"). Distance was no surprise aside from expecting the Titleist to be 2-5 yds further than where things ended up. The surprising part was more in the flight stats, especially with the shorter irons (which are 2* stronger in the Titleist). I don't have stats on swing speed, smash factor, or spin, but I do have quite a few other good stats. Even though I have a T200 in hand, my test is the T100S, so I'm starting with that -- still totally appreciate the T200 long iron opportunity and am considering that part of the test, but it's the minor part of the test for me. 

    General: Prior to the side-by-side, it seemed like I was hitting the T100S higher than my typical flight, with similar curve and accuracy. Once I started hitting at the range, the T100S felt slightly heavier at address. When holding them both in my hands at the same time, I didn't notice much difference, but when setting up and swinging, the Titleist had a slightly heavier feel (which I like). It felt more in the head, even though the best explanation could be that the shaft is 6g heavier (same shaft, S in Mizuno and X in Titleist, officially 114g vs. 120g). In terms of size and looks, the T100S looks comparable to the JPX919 Tour at address, and very slightly larger than it from other angles, but slightly smaller than the JPX 919 Forged. Noted previously, I have a combo set now (4-6 Forged, 7-PW Tour), so I'm splitting feedback and reactions based on that.

    Long irons: T100S vs. Mizuno JPX919 Forged. Lofts are identical, and shafts are similar. I expected very similar performance, and thought it would be a good comparison in where the two brands put their priorities -- if anything, I expected the Titleist to launch/apex lower because of the flex, but end up with similar distances.  Well, the opposite happened, which I assume can only be attributed to the head (this was consistent across all clubs): the JPX was ~1 yard longer in total distance, but T100S was 3-5 yds longer in terms of carry (meaning it also stopped faster). The T100S went ~10-12 ft higher and had a ~5* steeper landing angle (held true with both average and maximum). Curve was very similar, with Mizuno having more right-left movement. The T100S was more accurate. The JPX had more consistent distances. I'm torn - so many good things happening with the T100S, but consistency could be a big factor on the course (need to be confident how far it's actually going to fly this time).  

    Short irons: T100S vs. Mizuno JPX919 Tour. This was the most surprising -- the T100S are 2* stronger, so I went in expecting lower launch, lower apex, lower spin, lower landing angle, and more distance from the T100S. I left the test with only that last expectation holding true (well...I don't have spin numbers, but I think it adds up). The T100S launched higher (slightly), flew ~8-10ft higher, landed at a steeper angle (1-2*), and were 5-10 yds longer (both carry and total - honestly, I expected a few yards longer). This held true for all clubs except the PW, but that was the club I started with, so maybe I just wasn't warmed up. Dispersion was tight with both the JPX and T100S with the shorter irons. I have to give the edge to the T100S here because of both distance and landing angle (and likely spin?). 

    And last,T200 3-iron vs. Srixon U85 2-iron: Starting out, I love the Srixon driving iron. I bombed it during my demo, ordered a U65 with a no-upcharge custom shaft (at the time I was matching my irons), and it showed up as a U85 (winning!). I later got an actual fitting for it and swapped in a graphite shaft. Off the turf, it does well, but it's mostly a tee shot club for me that is usually in the 230-240 range but can get up around 260, and it's pretty accurate (more confidence than D and 3W). I was hitting off mats for this session, so I didn't have low tees to compare tee shots, but off the turf, I was shocked that the best shot, by far, came from the T200 3i (25 yds longer than the longest Srixon with less roll), and that the T200 outperformed it overall on well-struck shots (to be fair, I had to throw away more mishits with the T200 than I did the Srixon). The T200 had 2.5mph higher ball speed, 1.5* higher launch (expected), 4* steeper landing angle, and was tighter in terms of accuracy (but again, that's ignoring the blatant mishits, of which the T200 had 2x the Srixon). It was also 10 yds longer on both carry and total distance 🤯. The Srixon was more consistent in terms of distance (both carry and overall). All signs there point to the T200, right? Well...it also had the two worst shots,  by far -- if I can tighten up the consistency (which could be swing-related), this will be going in my bag for the foreseeable future. 

    Summary: This actually holds true across all of the categories I noted above: the Titleist irons are mashers. They go a long way and stop quickly compared to my current irons. My current hesitation is consistency across the board -- even though accuracy is on par with (or better than) my JPX and Srixon, the inconsistent distances are a bit concerning. I do want the distance, so I'm planning to keep these in the bag for the remainder of the season, but I'm not ready to cut the JPX out of my life just yet. 

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  20. Forgot to ask earlier: who's interested in a side-by-side comparison of the T100S to the 8th wonder of the world, the Cleveland VAS 792? If we get enough likes, I can make it happen. 

    Cleveland 792 VAS Iron Set | 2nd Swing Golf

    I wonder if that patent is still pending 🤔

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  21. Don't have time for a full post right now and am still going through the data to throw away blatant mishits (I'm keeping track of how many per club because it's still relevant, but don't want it to skew the data), but a quick preview of what's to come: had a couple more good sessions this week, including a side-by-side with my JPX on the launch monitor. The results of that were...surprising. My direct club comparisons are: 

    Short irons: JPX919 Tour vs. T100S (Titleist is 2 degrees stronger)

    Long irons: JPX919 Forged vs. T100S (same lofts)

    Driving Iron/Utility: Srixon U85 2-iron vs. T200 3-iron. "Should not" be a fair comparison - Srixon is 2 degrees stronger, 0.75" longer, and quite a bit thicker. Unfortunately, I did not have a chance to compare tee shots between these two beasts, just off the turf -- I expect ~90% of my shots with these clubs to be tee shots, so I still need to compare in that way.

    My mini concern with the T100S (which I think at least one other tester called out): you can mash these, but it only seems to come out once in a while, so I'm a little concerned with going long at semi-random times (in the college years, Donald Ross groomed me into playing short of the flag, and I've had that in my head for the last 18 years regardless of the course -- on our course, short was tough but you could pitch up and possibly get up and down; long was dead, and you'd often be playing your next from that same short position, grinding/hoping to get up/down for bogey). 

    I will also say that I'm glad I chose the T200 3-iron rather than a 2-iron -- I considered getting the 2 so that I'm replacing my set 1-for-1, and maybe that would have worked out OK.... But the T200 has a smaller profile than I expected, and I'm not convinced I play/practice enough these days to hit a 2-iron with that profile (my last actual 2-iron was a Mizuno MP-30 -- when I retired that set, I jumped ship to hybrids and now utility irons). 

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  22. 4 hours ago, dlow206 said:

    I believe you said in your intro that you got the Titleist at standard lie angle because they are more upright than Mizunos which you normally play 1 to 2 degrees upright. You didn't happen to get an actual lie measurement between the two iron sets did you? Just to make sure stated and actual specs match. 

    I haven't actually measured to compare spec documentation to actual build. On paper, the Titleist should be 0.5* more upright than what I was playing previously (standard is a 1.5* difference, and my Mizunos were built 1* up). I'm planning to do some lie checking in the near future, but still suspect it's in my head. 

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  23. On 9/9/2021 at 9:01 PM, ChiefMikeOfficer said:

    had two other solid strikes that were just big yanks (cue my internal debate about lie angle again, but it's still more likely they were just two bad swings and nothing to do with the clubs). 

    Objection: relevance. Need to correct this statement - pulls because of lie angle come from the clubs are too upright, which is the opposite of what I was thinking before. This basically confirms they were just garbage swings -- probably my old tendency of coming over the top with a closed face (which plagued me in college). 

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  24. Well, my side-by-side range session got cancelled thanks to an RSV outbreak and a COVID case at the kids' daycare 🤒  but I did get another 9er in on Tuesday for our league's consolation match. I'm still loving the irons, but didn't play quite as well as I did on the first go (a couple bad swings and not a stellar short game performance). 

    The round started out a little shaky -- let's just say the "Player" aspect of the Players' Distance iron came out in full force. Poked a drive out to ~215 on the opening par 5, slightly into the wind so busted out the 4-iron (still expecting these to be 5-10 yds longer than the Mizunos) - chunk city. In the first 4 holes, had two other solid strikes that were just big yanks (cue my internal debate about lie angle again, but it's still more likely they were just two bad swings and nothing to do with the clubs). Like some others, I'm still trying to sort out distances - have clubbed down on some full swings that have worked out well, but was also surprised to see a couple come up short (not mishits this time, just trying to take something off of it and haven't quite figured that part out yet). So, onto some details:

    The T200 3-iron: only hit it once this round, and it was consistent with past outcomes -- happy with the distance (222 off the tee dead into a stiff wind with no roll), missed a bit left of target. Still need that range work and a few more rounds to fully assess this one. 

    The T100S continue to be about a club longer, and have hit some very impressive shots. The longer irons really get out there -- for tee shots this time, hit a ho-hum 220 yd 4 iron (not pured by any means, still hit 220 with little roll), and then...remember that hole where I had my previous longest 4-iron (downhill/downwind)? Well, I clubbed down and hit a high 6-iron right at the corner -- my teammate said this actually clipped a branch on one of the corner trees (I didn't see that), but even if it didn't, I never trusted the JPX enough to even try a 6-iron here: 

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    For the two Par 3s, both were right on line and solid strikes -- a 168yd 9-iron (~1 club downwind) to 10 ft (missed the putt, of course), and a 170yd 8-iron (slope and wind probably cancelling out) that stuck about 30ft short of the flag. Both of those are a full club ahead of anything I remember hitting on those same holes this year including downwind (the first I've come up short a time or two with the JPX 8-iron; the second I'm normally between 6- and 7-iron depending on conditions). That pretty much rounds out the use of the test clubs for the round - a few bad swings, a couple misjudgments, and a handful of shots that I'm very happy with. 

    Still very optimistic considering the performance so far. Sounds like testing is going to wrap at the end of the month, so I really need to get out to the range to do the side-by-side comparisons. By the time the final review comes around, I should have a good variety of things happening, including our 36-hole City Mid-Am in the final week of testing (I promise not to blame the clubs 🤥 )

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  25. 16 hours ago, MDGolfHacker said:

    Question for the testers, how many of you are playing Mizunos irons currently? In reading the intros it seems there's quite a few of us that are. How are the respective Titleist irons comparing to the Mizunos or what you are currently playing?

     

    MDGolfHacker

    You probably picked this up from the intro, but I've been a big Mizuno guy since ~2003 (or earlier - won a tournament with a borrowed set of T-Zoid Pro in 2002, didn't put my first set in play consistently until 2003). Every fitting I've done since then has left me between a Mizuno set and one other, and based on overall preference, I've picked Mizuno (I had a couple years in there where I went back to Ping, which I also used in High School from 2000-2002, but Mizuno was always consistently at the top for me). That's actually one of the things I'm excited about for this test -- I don't think Mizuno is the best "for me", I think they're one of the best irons on the market, and I've thought that for years. I want this test to prove me wrong, or show me that the competition is closer than I thought. 

    For how they compare...well, we'll see -- I'm planning some side-by-side sessions to figure that out. 

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