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  1. John / Swansea, IL 62226 / USA Current: Ping Sigma2 Tyne (straight) Heppler choice: Piper-C / I am interested in center-shafted, straight-stroke putters, would like to try this. Since 2007, I have used Ping putters with exception of 18-month hiatus circa 2016. My Pings include Pal (made in 1973), B60, and now Signa-Tyne.
  2. @Quigleyd, I found a Stock vs. Premium shaft thread from February. https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/36489-stock-vs-premium-shafts-from-the-same-oem/?do=findComment&comment=596553 The Ventus shaft is an example. Basically, the aftermarket Ventus contains the Pitch 70 carbon fibers which give it an extra low-torque, low-spin profile. The "made for" Ventus lacks the Pitch 70 weave. One thread respondent @chisag is a +1.2 HDCP who gives personal examples of the differents. He notes that for those with medium swing speed, the "made for" structure is probably a good thing. And, I'm one of those guys with sub-90 MPH driver CHS that would benefit from the "made for" shaft version. Those {low torque + low spin} shafts give me superb line, but fly low and don't carry 200 yards. I need adequate spin to get the ball launched properly. chisag further noted that along with swing speed, how aggressive you are at transition affects your Ventus shaft choice. If you want to make the case that the whole aftermarket vs. made-for reality is fuzzy to most golfers, I agree. But, average golfers like me can do quite well with "made for" shafts - as long as we select them through fitting.
  3. Right Handed Golfers Only First Name/City State: John / Swansea, IL Desired to Test: 460 Swing Speed: 87 MPH
  4. I'm familiar with Speeder shafts, and the made-for of year Two of a model looks similar to the year One after-market custom shaft, but are not exact duplicates. Likewise, the specs are similar, but not exact. (Given, the specs for the year Two made-for shafts often have less detail available than that for the year One aftermarket version.) As I noted earlier, made for varieties of shafts are often selected for the sub-groups most likely to buy a particular club. Again, those who could benefit from a more specific shaft can get it, sometimes for upcharge, sometimes not. I've been fitted for drivers several times, and the made-for gave numbers equivalent to performance of aftermarkets. And, the fitted "made for" always gave me a driver that outperformed my previous model. So, could you please define "watered down?" Not really sure what you mean. Finally, a repeat of a May 27 question: Will a respected shaft maker risk putting junk materials into a "made for" shaft?
  5. On the discussion about "made for" vs. "after market" shafts: I have been fit for drivers three times since 2009, and in all cases one of the stock shafts gave me best or "near best" numbers. Granted, I only have 87 MPH driver clubhead speed. But, I'm not going to pay an extra $350 upcharge for a driver shaft that gives me six more yards in distance. A related issue is swing precision. My swing is not as precise as someone who is a 2 HDCP. Thus, they would likely benefit more from the narrow performance window of a-m than me. Also, the "made for" shafts, as you correctly remarked, are often last year's after-market shaft. This is like in the early 2000s in personal computers: last year's "screamin' machine" is this year's stock model. The year 2 item, be it a computer or golf shaft, has lower costs in part because of economies of scale and leveraging past R&D. Related topic: you needed to get a better handle on explaining fixed costs vs. variable costs, and economies of scale. One of the biggest fixed costs is R&D, as you all have noted. If we have the R&D all done for a Speeder X1 after-market, we may tweak it as a shaft profile that fits a lot of people that will play our new driver, and call it the Speeder X2A. But, as a "made for" shaft we will sell 20 million of them rather than 1 million of last year's a-m Speeder X1. The economies of scale for the 20-fold leap in numbers sold makes for a lower per-unit cost. Finally, will a respected shaft maker risk putting junk materials into a "made for" shaft? When someone shows me an after-market shaft, once I see them hit the ball, I sense the a-m benefit is often 80% prestige and 20% performance.
  6. I would like to test the Bridgestone Tour B WX-1 wedges. I tested the TM SLDR irons in 2014 for another blog. 1. John / Swansea, IL (near St. Louis) 2. Handicap = 20.4 3. Current Wedges = Callaway MD3 48°/8.SS + 54°/12.WS and MD.PM 60°/10 All three shafted in KBS Tour R.flex 4. Your desired set/lofts: 50° + 56° + 60° / Any chance for Modus 105 R-flex shafts? Also, Midsize grip, or grips in box? Glad to help you, JPO
  7. Greetings from the St. Louis area. A self-taught golfer for my first 10 years, I have spent the rest of my time trying to recover. I am very interested in golf equipment, from both the technology and supply-chain views. I teach at a college business school, and use golf industry examples in my classes. My biggest problem as a golfer is real-life interruptions during the season. I may play eight times in June, and then miss three weeks because of this or that. In August, I am a volunteer for the PGA Championship at Bellerive CC.
  8. 1. John in Illinois 2. My Bag Makeup. Callaway XR16 Pro Driver (10.5*) / Fuji TS Speeder 665 R-flex Tour Edge XRail 4W / GraphiteDesign G60 R-flex Cobra FlyZ 3-4H 19* and 4-5H 22* / VLCT Altus Light Flex Callaway X20 Tours 4i-9i / NS Pro 8950GH R-flex Callaway wedges MD3 48* and 54* / MD.PM 60* Slotline SL-583F Inertial putter / SuperStroke 2.0 MidSlim grip + 50 gr. backweight 3. HDCP = 21 4. Goals for 2018 Play in some two-day tournaments Play golf at least once a week this summer, get most of rounds into the 80s Earn a reputation as an insightful equipment tester in the Connect Challenge
  9. Welcome to the forums Greenside :)

     

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    1. Greenside

      Greenside

      I am from the St. Louis area. A self-taught golfer for my first 10 years, I have been trying to recover ever since.

       

      I am very interested in golf equipment, from both the technical and the supply chain sides. I teach in a college business school, and sometimes use golf industry examples in my classes.

       

      My main problem as a golfer are real-life interruptions. I may get in eight rounds in June, and then not get to pick up a club again until August tournament season.

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