gchester33

Hey J.B. I'm sorry to hear that the grips weren't terribly beneficial for you. But I think it's great that we have some analysis in here saying that it wasn't beneficial. If something has only positive reviews it's hard to trust the source (looking at you other golf review sites) and while it may not help the manufacturer it certainly helps to guarantee the independence of the reviews.

The more I use this putter grip the more I like it. Continues to feel incredibly natural in the hands and allow for a completely natural stroke. I'm hoping to have my Stage II up after next weekend. In the process of a crazy month with 3 weekends of travelling which is a nightmare. But if there is anyone out there with specific questions I can help or looking for an outright recommendation, I'm a big fan.

Has anyone had any experience comparing a putter fitting to the results they got from using the Ping Cradle?

Have you actually tried to roll any shots with it? I cant imagine it feels all that great.

2019 may forever be looked back on as the best year for drivers. Can't wait to start trying all these out once they start getting discounted and I grow weary of my rogue.

This seems genius by Titleist. Most golfers at the superstore or galaxy aren't interested in trying out the XXIO or Wilson or Tour Edge, but if they can get the same lightweight benefits of those drivers and still have a Titleist in their bag they're gonna hop right on that. I'm impressed.

One of the most interesting things from this data is that none of the drivers were positive strokes gained. I guess just goes to show how dangerous a driver is.

Probably one wild mishit that wasn't removed from the data if i had to guess.

His Pardon My Take interview was even better. Definitely worth a listen.

I think part of it for him is that he's willing to speak his mind. All those guys at the top know that 80 guys in the field don't stand a chance, but the Spieths and Fowlers have to go out there and talk about how every week every guy has a chance. It's all about appearance. I think Brooks is accepting that he's the counter culture for golfers now. As guys like Bryson and his science experiments cause more people to think about every shot and swing scientifically Brooks is out there talking about how he doesn't think about anything he just lets his caddie tell him where to hit it and he hits it there. The Brooks hate is a joke. I can only assume the guys that don't like Brooks don't like guys that don't conform to their ideals of a superstar. Probably the same people that hated Ken Griffey Jr.

Got out for a full round last weekend but wasn't able to score myself with 18birdies (app was being a PITA). Didn't putt amazingly but I do feel like the grip is improving my consistency in hand placement and putt speed. I know I always had some issues with the superstroke where I would have to focus on putting my hand in a consistent location on the grip but I feel that the SNSR grip naturally causes my hands to fall to the same location everytime.

Take back what I said about the course being tight, must have been thinking about somewhere else. This course plays like a links course. Still like Hideki. Gonna pick Trey Mullinax as the Web flyer of the week.

Course is long and tight. Gonna have to be good off the tee and with the long irons to survive. Field is pretty weak which probably gives some leverage to Hideki, Leishman, or Brooks. But can't say I see Brooks taking this down. I like Hideki here if he can get his putter going, but you could say that about almost any course. So Hideki would be my main pick but I wouldn't be surprised if another up and comer took this down.

Big win for Max out there. Love seeing all these recent Web grads taking home victories and keeping the big names on their toes (Max, Conners, Mitchell). Tough loss for Dahmen but hes gonna take home a trophy and 2 year card this year for sure.

How much glare do you really get off a club face? I play in Florida, the sun is always out and I can't say I've ever been like "damn I can't see!"

We've got the big official review thread up and going now which could always use more insight. You should hop on over. I know I didn't pull or regrip my own but the shop was able to do it in like 10 minutes so can't beat that.

Looks like the highly anticipated ball test has taken down the site! Probably the simultaneously best and worst indicator of good work.

Had a chance to play 9 holes on some slow bumpy greens at the end of last week. First round with the new SNSR grip on the putter and I gotta say I'm a fan thus far. Had 15 putts and no 3 putts which pretty much hits right on my target for a round. 18Birdies says I gained 1.78 strokes putting. As expected I liked the hand positioning and felt it provided a very natural extension of the hands to the putter which led to smooth stroke. Excited to get this out a bit more.

Stage Two - The Review 07/10/2019 Golf Pride Tour SNSR 140 Putter Grip – Official MGS Forum Review by gchester33 Intro I’ve now had this beautiful beast attached to my putter for about 2 months. The majority of my time was spent testing it on course through 5 or 6 rounds with some practice green work in order to compare the performance metrics I set in Stage I. If I had to describe the Golf Pride Tour SNSR in three words it would be “Damned near perfect”. My previous putter grip, the SuperStroke 2.0, was my first foray into oversized putter grips and while I liked it and felt it improved my putting stroke, I always had two small issues. First, I was not excellent at returning my hands to the same position every time I gripped the putter. Second, my hands never felt completely natural on it. As you can read in more detail below I felt the SNSR grip addressed both these issues and don’t expect I will have a putter without this grip for a long time. I almost wanted to not like the grip before I gamed it as I feel there are so many overly positive reviews for products that it muddies the review waters and makes it difficult to find truly critical reviews from those that are purely “everything is awesome ”. That being said I could find nearly no faults in the grip, would recommend it whole heartedly to anyone considering an oversized grip, and believe it would be worth testing for many who like the feel of an oversized grip but are not satisfied with the SuperStroke offerings. Looks (9 out of 10 points) - I’ll admit that I was impressed by the looks of the SNSR right out of the bag. I like the black/grey color scheme, I love the hand placement guides as a visual cue to go along with the physical guide, and I don’t feel it looks out of place. For some it may be overly loud, which is my only point deduction. Altogether though I like the way this looks both on its own and while looking down at it while putting. I tried to take some pictures of myself holding with both hands, but honestly it just looked like pictures of my hands. Feel (18 out of 20 points) - The SNSR grip is slightly softer than the previous SuperStroke I had on my putter. I like that feeling as I tend to grasp my putter pretty firmly. I haven’t had any issues with slippage while putting, even in the Florida humidity/sweat, and I putt without a glove. I love the way the flat face and curve along the shaft allow my hands to fall into the exact same spot with every putt. I’ve said it time and again in this thread but that was one of my biggest gripes with the SS was getting a consistent hand placement. With this grip it’s completely natural. The taper with the lower hand area allows it to fall naturally into place without twisting at a strange angle. I have smaller hands but I feel this grip fits my hands to a tee; however, if you have larger hands you may find it small if you’re used to playing the SS 5.0 as this is the larger of the SNSR grips but it is not significantly oversized. I’ve deducted two points as I feel some may find the grip overly soft. Here is a gif to show my putting stroke from 10’ to compare to my Stage 1 post. I don’t notice much a difference, which is inherently good, but doesn’t indicate a significant difference in stroke Performance Characteristics (28 out of 30 points) - I had the opportunity to play 4 or 5 complete rounds with the new putter grip attached and I’ve never been more surprised by how much a simple change such as a putter grip can improve the act of putting. While I don’t believe my putting stroke changed, I felt that the Tour SNSR grip gave me improved confidence by providing a natural hand placement guide and ideal feel. My 18 Birdies app crapped out on my multiple times during the testing (sometimes due to poor connection, sometimes due to slow app performance, and once due to my own lack of battery) so I don’t have as much actual SG:Putting data as I would like to be able to present to you. What I can say is that through those 5 rounds I think I had at most 1 three-putt per round and it was typically due to an extremely long first putt. My confidence standing over putts was never higher especially on those 5 – 6 foot second putts to save par/bogey. I felt that pistol grip shape reduced the likelihood that I would rotate the grip through impact which improved my putting consistency. I also found that the soft rubber allowed me to better lock my hands in place which helped me maintain a pendulum like putting stroke. The real question here is how did the grip affect my overall putting performance. I’ve updated the graph from Stage 1 to compare the data from the two grips. As you can see, the performance is fairly consistent between the two. At 3’ there is not an appreciable difference; however, there is an improvement at 10’ by using the SNSR grip. My strokes gained putting data stands nearly equal between the two grips though I have 3 putted less frequently, it hasn’t completely disappeared. Durability (8 out of 10 points) - We’re only 2 months into this review so it’s hard to say how the grip would hold up through a full season or two. To this point in time it is holding up perfectly adequately and showing little no signs of wear. Putter grips experience very little physical stress so we would typically expect them to last a few seasons and I see no reason why this wouldn’t. I did however deduct 2 points as I feel that the soft rubber of the grip is more likely to get beat up after a few hundred pulls into and out of the bag. I can tell that the clubs it shares an opening with are grabbier when I remove them and that will be more likely to induce premature wear on the grip. Ultimately though, while it may not survive as long as a rock hard putter grip, for the price I expect to last an appreciable amount of time. You should be able to see from the still image above that the grip is still in excellent condition with no discoloration or wear. Miscellaneous (8 out of 10 points) - There’s only so much you can say about a putter grip. You use it for a single activity and it doesn’t see the stresses and wear and tear of your other grips. That being said, I was a little surprised by the shipping condition where it was loose packed in an oversized box better fit for a full set of club grips vs. a single putter grip. I’ve let anyone I play with take a few strokes with the grip and most people have been fond of how it feels, looks, and swings. Obviously putter to putter and person to person can make a huge difference but I have not heard a bad thing about the grip from anyone. The point deduction here is for shipping condition. Play it or Regrip it? (20 out of 20 points) - This is an easy one. 100% play it. If you couldn’t guess from having read this whole review. I have espoused the good characteristics of the grip throughout so I won’t go back over them here. I have not a modicum of desire to return the SuperStroke grip though. Ultimately I wanted to show a measurable improvement in statistical performance in order to merit a more complete recommendation. But my recommendation is based purely on how it feels in my hand in comparison to my previous SueprStroke. Conclusion - Again, I cannot say enough good things about the Tour SNSR 140 putter grip. This grip will be staying on my putter for years to come. I think the score below speaks for itself but in detail my utmost approval of this putter grip boils down to: Oversized pistol shape feels more natural to grip in comparison to a single diameter The tapered lower hand section improves grip stability Grip design creates an automatic grip point for improved hand placement consistency Softer rubber prevents over-gripping and improves feedback without feeling harsh. Final Score: (91 out of 100 points) If anyone is considering the Golf Pride Tour SNSR and has questions please reach out to me on here or on Twitter @gchester33 and I’m more than happy to provide any insights or answer any questions you may have. I offer my sincerest thanks to MGS and Golf Pride for the opportunity to review this grip and look forward to using it for years to come.

Hello MGS community and thanks to all of you for taking the time to read through this review and an especially big thanks to the MGS staff/mods for all they do in getting these set up. I am pretty excited to have the opportunity to review Golf Pride SNSR 140 grip and to see what differences I can find moving forward. Golf has been in an out of my life for the last 15+ years. Through my formative years, I never got very good at it though and ultimately quit the game fully for a few years during high school as I simply wasn't enjoying it. Since that time I would play maybe 2 - 4 times per year over the next 10 years through college, starting a job, and then moving into working and working on my Masters degree simultaneously. You would think that living in Orlando for the last 7 years, a place where I could golf all year would have encouraged me, but I still didn’t get back into the game until I finished my Master’s degree about a year ago. With newly freed up weekends when my wife works, I decided it was time to get back on the wagon. I pulled my old hand-me-down clubs out of the crawl space, dusted off more spiders than I would ever like to remember, and realized just how long it had been. I mean, I still had these irons: (honestly just needed a medium to post how old these things were) I knew needed new clubs if I had any hope of enjoying myself so like any good millenial I started doing my online research. Thank god I found MGS! I do research for a living, so researching golf clubs was a natural extension for me. And then BOOM I found a website that was actually presenting their results as data and not just awarding every club they get for free 4 -5 stars or giving every club a gold or silver just for being produced by a major manufacture. Not that other review sites aren’t objective... Ultimately having been back on the golf course for a year I’ve spent a lot of time honing and tweaking my game trying to find what works consistently and I’ve found one of the things I love about golf is that there isn’t a right and wrong way to do something. I love that you can make it as cerebral as you want like Bryson’s science experiments or just grip it and rip it like Brooks. I play as a 17 – 18 handicap, i.e. I’m your everyman. If my front nine is off to a rough start, I’m going to grab a few beers for the back to hopefully lube up the swing. At this level I don’t think there is a truly consistent part of my game and feel I’m in a constant state of flux with my tee-to-green game. My approach/around the green definitely holds me back which leads to long lags and lengthy attempts at par saves – or as I like to call them – bogeys. Putting may actually be the most consistent part of my game. I can typically be confident that I’ll two putt most anything and I can be pretty good inside 10 ft. Honestly though that is purely hubris as I have definitely four-putted recently. A good round for me could be 36 putts if my approach game was horrible but I typically try to target 30 putts/rd. With luck maybe a grip change can drop that. The Weapon I currently game Odyssey O-Works Marxman S putter. I loved the feel/sound of the face, the high MOI, and my stroke favors a putter with some toe hang. It’s a real love it or hate it style, and as much as I might love the classic Anser shape, this is a more reliable putter for me. The Marxman came standard with a Super Stroke 2.0 counterweighted grip. It’s my first oversized grip and I like the way it helps minimize wrist flip. The grip isn’t as big as the giant 5.0 and I have smaller hands, so a grip that size is a nice compromise. When it comes to my ideal putter grip, I’m looking for something that keeps from squeezing too hard, limits my wrist motion and feels natural. I’m not particularly picky about the tack or squish of the grip itself but like something that transmits impact feel well enough that I can tell how I hit a putt. I use a pretty traditional grip but I know that everyone is different and there are as many different putting hand positions as there are grip styles to account for them. I like my putting stroke to be a shorter backswing with some acceleration through the ball especially on putts 10' and below. I find that this keeps me from trying to take speed off during the stroke which leads to mishits and poor distance control. The still frame here shows my typical grip and set up. I play a shorter 33" putter as I tend to lean over the ball a fair amount which to me encourages a more natural pendulum putting motion I also tend to grip down toward the bottom of my grip which can be seen as I hook my right index finger over the lower edge of the grip. I'm interested to see if the shaping of the new grip changes how I hold it. First Look The Golf Pride Tour SNSR Contour Pro 140 cc is the heavier, wider version of their Contour Pro grips. The grip weighs in at 124 g, so just slightly heavier than the 114 g Superstroke (including 50 g counter weight) which should be a simple transition and prevent my putter from feeling like a completely new device. All Tour SNSR grips feature a flat paddle front while the Contour models have a pistol contour in the upper hand. The Contour Pro has a frontside offset in the upper hand while the Contour (non-Pro) is flat across entire front. Golf Pride’s other SNSR offering is the Tour Straight which is more like a SuperStroke Flatso grip. The grip diameters are similar and the SNSR has a slightly softer rubber which may have an effect on feedback. Here’s a quick shot that shows this grip vs. the Non-pro SNSR vs. the SS 2.0 vs. the SS 5.0. As you can see the non-Tour SNSR has a more pronounced pistol back than the Tour SNSR and no front offset. Both the SNSR grips have a tapered bottom hand section in comparison to the taper-less super stroke grips. At first feel, I like the top hand contouring and the tapered lower section as I I feel it allows my hands to fall more naturally which should hopefully help keep them moving in a natural stroke. Golf Pride is priding itself on its new rubber formulation which should provide "Precise ball feedback" and "Optimal grip pressure".The grip is undoubtedly softer than the Super Stroke offerings so I'm interested to see how I feel about it after a few rounds. Testing Procedure Before getting into the testing the actual product I felt I should lay out a testing plan. Putting is probably the easiest portion of the game to record a significant amount of shots and results without needing access to a Trackman or similar shot tracker. To me there are 3 aspects to comparing these grips: accuracy, consistency, and on course performance. To test the accuracy, I’ve taken my putter out to a couple different putting greens (both fast and slow) and taken 20 – 30 putts from 3’, 10’, and 25’ and recorded how far from the hole the ball ends up (see data below). For consistency, I'm using the Ping Putting Cradle to compare the consistency of my stroke before and after the grip change. And finally for on course performance I am recording strokes gained data using 18 Birdies (with NO GIMMES!) which should hopefully correlate with the practice data. Pins will be in for all testing, because that’s what MGS says is the most effective; definitely not because I’m lazy. As a little appetizer I’ve included the baseline putting results for the SuperStroke grip. I just changed the grip on the putter so beginning this week I’ll start testing the new grip in the same manner . I’ll obviously include my observations throughout but I know I love seeing fresh data and I think that will help back up my final conclusions on the SNSR grip. I’ll continue to post updates on any early findings I have.

Sounds like I might have to watch out for another of these 2 for 50 deals, thats not a bad price for a new ball.

I've found that when playing in the summer months down here in central FL that the specific grip itself is not the biggest issue. My hands sweat no matter what and so as long as the grip isn't slick I'm going to have a similar grip quality. The best thing I've found is keeping a small hand towel with me and giving my hands a good wipe before shots. That and constantly cycling gloves, i might play 4 - 5 gloves per round cycling after ever shot or 2.

Has anyone had an opportunity to swing the new PX HZRDUS smoke yellow in comparison to the yellow, smoke, or evenflow white? Currently have the evenflow white in my Rogue having swapped that out from a HZRDUS yellow and looking for any info about the feel/launch/spin differences between them. Thanks!

I agree with a lot of the comments on here already that this is a good loose guideline to within a few hundred yards in either direction. The one that kills me is when yardages are essentially artificially inflated through long par 3s. Theres a number of courses here in the Orlando area that will play low 6k's but all 4 par 3's are close to 200 yards.

Ya as others have stated seems like his issue. If you're not hitting into him then it's really all in his head and at that point he should either let you come up and join or play through. Some people cant be helped i guess.